so much anger and frustration, the more we learn about the murder of 17-year-old chelsea king, the man accused of killing her her a violent convicted sex offender who served, again, only five years in prison despite a psychiatrist's dire warning, innocent chelsea, out for a run in the park didn't deserve to die. did the system fail her? does someone have her blood on their hands. a fire captain accused of luring young girls for sex, a respected member of the community tried to get a 14-year-old on craig's list. his line, the younger the better. what's more infuriating, even if convicted he might keep his pension, he makes about 240 grand a year. we want to hear from you on these topics. you know the number, 1-877-tell-hln. e-mail us or join us on facebook or text us at hln tv, just start your message with the word "prime." it's your chance to be heard. welcome once again this is "prime news" i'm mike galanos. the more we dig deeper it is heart breaking to think the 17-year-old may still be alive if the suspect in this horrific crime, a convicted violent sex offender was still behind bars there. se, john gardner. there he was yesterday, pleaded not guilty to charges of rape and murder. chelsea king vanished last thursday. went out for a run at a park near san diego. straight-a student, would have graduated from high school this spring. her parents obviously torn apart. a clip from her dad, brent king, who had a chance to talk to on nbc's "today show." >> one of the nicknames that i always called my daughter, my angel." and she's my angel forever. >> just heartbreaking to hear that. joining me to talk about this, paula bunn bereavement counselor at the -- really helping out the king family, helping chelsea's parents. thanks for being with us. >> sure. >> how is the king family doing? i could not even imagine what they are going through now. >> right. well, they -- it's a very strong family. in the type of work i do, i see a lot of families and i can tell you, this is an exceptional extended family. having spent some time with them over the past five days. i've observed them to be very grounded, they're connected to each other, supportive, sensitive, patient, kind with one another. of course, they are heartbroken. but, as they face one of the worst imaginable circumstances, they are showing a great deal of grace and strength and dignity in all of this. >> paula, where do you begin, as a counselor, trying to help out, where do you begin with a family like this? >> uh-huh. well, you know, it's very uncomfortable and difficult for most of us to witness someone grieving such a profound and tragic loss but it's important to allow that person to feel whatever they feel and to resist the urge to try to jump in and fix it for them somehow. right now, you know, the best we can do for someone in that position is to listen, more than talk. and offer our support, let them know we're there for them, sit with them while they cry, maybe offer them a hug. then as the shock begins to dissipate somewhat, just realize that that person is going to experience a whole wide spectrum of emotions, including anger, sadness, confusion, sometimes guilt. and having a person that they can talk to or other ways of expressing their feelings will be important in the healing process. >> yeah, to listen is to love. looking at pictures, paula, of just the community coming together. how important is that to them or has it been to them this great show of support from the communities near san diego? . >> yes. yes. they are extremely grateful for the response. the community has been affected deeply by this. it's a tight-knit commity and all of us are mourning this loss, even those of us that didn't know chelsea personally. you know, it's just been a ripple of shock and sadness that spread through the community and really created a solidarity as organizations like elizabeth hospice and [ inaudible ] united af and laura revery and others have joined in this tremendous outpouring of love and -- and we've had just thousands of volunteers, as you know, show up. >> paula, before we let you go, has the family seen or witnessed or gotten a feel for some of the anger out there of basically this guy still being out there and, you know we saw the graffiti was painted on the garage door of gardner's mom's house, is the family seeing that, tnessing that? and how is that affecting them? >> well, i don't know how much of that they're seeing. i know they're aware of it. and, you know, anger at this point, anger is -- is an appropriate emotion for us and for them. >> is it best to shield them from that, paula? >> well, i think that our -- our very young children, you know, we want to shield them a bit and protect them from some of this. but, you know, the anger is part of the grieving process. it's just only when it gets disproportionate or displaced that it becomes a prlem. >> paula, thanks again. paula bunn, just tell the family our prayers are with them. we could not imagine what they are going through and just again appreciate what you do and are doing for them. thank you again for your time. >> you're so welcome. >> we so appreciate it. we touched on this, some of the anger out there, we know the house of john gardner, the accused, his mom's house, someone painted graffiti on the garage door, a scuffle broke out outside of her home, we'll talk about that. and just talk about what we're seeing as an injustice here, taking your calls at 1-877-tell-hln. welcome back to "prime news" on hln, continuing our conversation, the tragic death of chelsea king and of course the man accused, john gardner, a convicted sex offender so many outraged he was out, should have been behind bars, a court-appointed psychiatrist had recommendsed this guy would be a continued danger to young girls. this stemming from a conviction back in 2000, when he attacked a 13-year-old. he choked her, punched her in the face. this guy was not cured, many would say there is no way he was going to be cured. there is some outrage out there. we know this, at the home of john gardner's mom, someone painted some graffiti on the garage and the quote is chelseas blood is on you, move out, so tensions are running high here. some workers came to paint over that sign. here's what happened, a scuffle, brief scuffle ensued. let's listen. >> i can see the sympathy you have for her. i can see it i your eyes. yeah, you're in this [ bleep ] neighborhood. get out of here. >> step away. >> officer, can you get them to step away from us? >> -- because you're scum sitting there protecting somebody who's killed an innocent girl! >> all right. there it is, again a glimpse of some of the outrage that's out there. not only in the san diego community, really across our nation, we've been taking calls and facebooks and will take your calls at 1-877-tell-hln. geneka scasares is with us. just outrage he is out and may not only be involved in her murder but others, as well. >> you are right. as an attorney, mike the first i look at when i see that garage door, besides the emotional impact, the potential jury pool that, is san diego county. they are all looking at that and further down the line whoever represents this defendant will probably cite thats one reason the trial should not happen in san diego county. but, you are right they are looking at other suspects thing that complaint, this felony complaint we've been able to go over it and really, reall digest it now, only two counts but, mike, one goes towards chelsea king, the young woman not yet identified and the other to a candice m., a young woman, 22 years of age jogging in the very same park in december of 2009. she was from colorado. they thought initially it was an attempted robbery. she fended the man that was assaulting her off but he is charged now with candice m. as the alleged victim wi an assault and attempted rape. >> jean, has candice m., has she i.d.'d gardner as her attacker? >> authorities are not saying. first of all she hit him with her elbow and they say a dna swab was taken of that elbow to see if male dna was found on it, it wasn't, only hers. but she's alive and able to i.d. since it's part of a felony complaint, i think you are exactly right, mike, i think she i.d.'d this man as one who attacked her months ago. >> you are surprised the swab did not include his dna? >> no, mike, i'm not. sometimes, you know, you just can't pick that physical evidence but i tell you this, there will be two factors a, physical evidence and more so, as she said, the human intelligence. we have an invidual, a victim who possibly i.d.'d this guy. what you are doing, mike, heightening awareness to the public, publicizing his picture. don't be surprised if people watching your program will say i saw that guy at this time at this place and that's how police will connect the dots. >> jean, we have this case here, obviously looking at him december 27th, possibly am burr dubois, as well and what about a case this past october, do you know anything about that, where a girl was almost abducted? >> yes. yes, i do. >> what's that story. >> it's riverside county actually where the defendant resides, according to the convicted sex offend der webbsite in california. she says she saw pictures of john gardner saying to her family, this is the man, this is him saying he tried to kidnap her at gunpoint. she ran away, he didn't do it but a different factual scenario because everything has similarities, 13, 14-year-old girls, broad daylight near school trying to abduct but haven't seen a weapon at all. >> okay. we'll continue to follow this. jean, steve, thanks so much. a bartender claims she was fired because she got pregnant and her boss told her customers aren't coming in to see sexy bartenders pregnant and bulging out. the boss denies he let her go. now we have discrimination charges. does she have a case? we're going to talk to her and take your calls, as well, 1-877-tell-hln. welcome back to "prime news" on hln. a woman filing a discrimination claim against a new york topless bar claiming she was fired because she got pregnant. she's t a stripper but a bartender and said she thought it could be trouble when her boss at cafe royale found out claiming he cut her hou, treated her differently than the others when she went online to research discrimination on found out it was hard to prove. one way, get a tape recorder, what she did, took it to work and got an earful. this is part of a recorded conversation with her boss. >> guys don't think -- they're t coming in to see sexy bartenders that are pregnant, that are bulging out. i'm sorry. >> i've been here nine times since august. august. how many other people -- that's once a week. >> each week you are getting bigger and bigger and bigger and more unsexy, unsexy, unsexy, okay, it's more obvious, obvious, obvious that you're pregnant, pregnant, pregnant. >> soon after that conversation, she said her boss let her go, left her name off the schedule. she filed a discrimination claim but the boss says she was never fired. a month later she came back to work as a cashier, paid for the month she was gone but the cashier salary significantly less than as a bartender. before we talk to her we reached out to her employer and here's a statement from his lawyer. here we go. my client declines to comment on pending legal acti except to say he considers ms. paviglianit's allegations are without merit. goes on to say they haven't received the formal complaint but will vigorously defend his client, again from the attorney. now her side, joining us with her attorney jack tuckner. jennifer, did we get that right? >> yep. >> basically you are saying you are demoted? were you ever fired? let's get that on the table first. >> no, he never used the word "fired." i was simply taken off the schedule without pay. >> okay so. you were never fired. let me get your attorney in real quick. jack, is that going to be an issue for you as you fight this on a discrimination fight that she's there, still has employment despite the way she believes she was treated? noirchlt >> no, of course not. she was terminated as a bartend bartender. the reason she's no longer bar tending and making less than half the salary is because she's pregnant, conceded in the tape, mike. >> jennifer, why are you still working there if you were treated like this? >> i needed the money still, still needed to work and support myself. any monies are better than no money i received during the time i was gone. >> are you going to go back there? is it true they saw you have a job waiting for you after maternity leave is up? are you going back. >> i plan on going back to rk. they say my job is held so i don't see why not. >> let's listen to a bit more, jennifer, part of the recorded conversations with the bar's owner i believe dealing with job performance here. let's listen to that. >> i could understand if i wasn't doing my job. and i wasn't doing it well. can you just give me a little [ inaudible ] when you tell me when i'll need to stop working? >> i will let you know because i'm going to be non hess with you, i don't see it much past next week, i don't see it much past next week. >> jennifer, how important was it for you to hear him talk on tape talk about job performance saying it raeeally wasn't an issue? >> that was most important to me, him saying i was not doing a bad job and i was doing every aspect of my job and the only reason that i was being let go was because i was pregnant. i just wanted to know that i was doing a good job. >> okay. did you know, once he talked about job performance, all right, i think i've got something here, i think we can move forward with the discrimination claim. >> well, as first, i just wanted it as leverage. i just wanted to keep my job for as long as i needed to to save up enough money for my maternity leave. i didn't expect it to get this far. >> okay. we're going to take a quick break. more from jennifer, want to hear from you, what do you think? call in, 1-877-tell-hln's the number. welcome back. you know, firefighters are supposed to be our kids' heroes, role models not their sex partners. that's what a cop say nearly happened near las vegas. not just any firefighter. he's a fire captain, martin volwinkle, 55, accused of using craig's list to pick up young girls for sex. they caught him in a parking lot and he was hoping to meet a 14-year-old. think out that, almost four times her age. chime in on this one if you have any thoughts. 1-877-tell-hln's the number. back with us to talk about this lisa bloom, attorney and legal analyst for our sister network, cnn and drew caridas with our affiliate, kntv. what was the add on craig's list all about? >> the alleged ad, he's worked for the clark county fire department for 30 years, fire captain seeking a very young girl and even specified the younger the better, an undercover officer of course here flagged that reply to it, some conversations intensified, explicit material we can't discuss over the airwaves. this man showed up at a parking lot, even offered to bring this girl marijuana. >> wow. a lot to get through there, lisa. let's talk about the sickening correspondences like the younger the better, how damning is that in court against this guy? >> it's very damaging coupled with the fact he clearly thought he was going to have sex with a 14-year-old girl. that number was in the correspondence. he can't claim a young girl meant 18 or 19. he was expecting to get together with a 14-year-old girl and, as the reporter just said, not just for sexual relations which would be a felony in nevada but also to give her marijuana, an additional crime so. he's in a heap of trouble. the good thing about the internet, we talk about per vets over the internet and the ferribfe terrible things they do but the good thing law enforcement can conduct sting operations before they get together with children and hopefully that's what was done in this case. >> john, go ahead. >> caller: how is it going, mike. >> good, john. >> caller: i'd like to say every year it seems one of these firemen get arrested by las vegas metro. and seems nothing -- nothing happens to them and they still receive their benefits. they hang out at the gym, they to the grocery store on city's time and make 150, 250 a year, outrageous. >> not sure about the history of others but let's zero in on him here. drew, another part of this seems outrageous this guy could keep his pension even though accused of doing soming so heinous. is that right? >> a lot of the controversy here and the man on the street i've been talking to people who live in the las vegas valley are outraged over this because according to our retirement system here in southern nevada, there are only two ways people can lose their benefits, lying to receive benefits or killing someone to receive benefits and we did checking. this man apparently makes $230,000 a year, about that. so there's a lot of benefits that have racked up over the years and he may still receive his pension despite all of this. >> lisa, if he's proven guilty that seems so wrong he could do something like this, a trusted -- really a pillar of the community or that's that, he gets to keep the pension? >> he does. the idea is that people have worked all of their lives and they've earned the money for the pension like they earn the money in the bank so unless it's murder or unless there were false statements, they allowed to keep the money it doesn't apply to sex crimes but any felony they commit, retirement money for the security of themselves and their families and they get to keep that money under the law. >> teresa is with us from louisiana. your comment or question? >> caller: yes. i think he should be convicted and i think he should be protected from all children includingand especially his own small children and grandchildren. i do, however, i feel that his pension should not be taken away from him. >> okay. >> caller: i believe in therapy but i also believe in watching them closely. thank you. >> thanks. drew, what i his family situation, is he married, does he have kids? >> we don't exactly know he lives in a gated community here and declined an interview with us through his security guard. we don't even know what his family situation is and the fire dertment does not want to elaborate on that, either. there is a lot of unknown in regards to that. his arraignment is actually set -- in about a half hour in federal court. we'll thereabout a we'll thereabobe there and hope find out more then. >> was there any history. >> no history. he seemed like a good guy, dedicated to serving the public, no criminal record we know of so a shock to his colleagues as well as the community here in southern nevada. >> drew, thanks so much. lisa, i know you are sticking around for this one, a topic we have dealt with a few times. s sexting and kids. what are we going to do to get the kids to understand how serious this is? who's first, who should be taking care of this, parents, teachers, law enforcement? want to hear from you, 1-877-tell-hln. welcome back to "prime news" on hln, kids caug zeksexting, again. this time in the atlanta area. the school says it started with two students, a girl and a boy, both in eighth grade, the girl sentence the inappropriate picture. she was suspended. the boy who received it withdrew from the school but forwarded the photo on to others. police are considering criminal charges. the school is not giving us any of those specific details other than what i laid out for you there. here's a statement from the school. we hope awareness of this situation will prompt parents to have conversations with their children about what is and is not appropriate technology use and about the consequences that can result from poor decision making. makes sense. what do you think? what should be done? call in,