Well as the two offences that mr kalief is facing, one, under the terrorism act and also the bomb hoax there now, of course, will be an additional penalty to serve, and that is for escaping from prison. What kind of future do you think this guy has . How long will his sentence be and how secure will this prison be . Well, i think he is going to be the most guarded prisoner in the prison system once hes been returned to lawful custody. I returned to lawful custody. I think hell undoubtedly be going to a prison where hell be under the most strictest conditions. And that will be very much looked at around how much time he is allowed to either associate with other prisoners or even to have sort of recreation time. Obviously, in terms of the offences, you know, weve got the common law offence of escaping from custody. It would down to obviously the would be down to obviously the courts to look at exactly the reasons and the motives why hes done this. But the fact hes been caught so quickly , it also been caught so quickly, it also will all depend on how he behaved when he was captured by the officers, whether he was any remorseful or anything like that. But like you say, the prison system still has a lot of questions to answer about how he was managed escape for so was managed to escape for so long, he got equipment long, how he got the equipment to obviously use to escape in the van. But hell be suspending a substantial time in custody as well. On top of the events hes already been charged with. Benton, former okay. Perry benton, former detective chief inspector, thank you very much for joining us detective chief inspector, thank you very much forjoining us on you very much for joining us on this dramatic day on gb news saturday. Were now joined by mark home and mark white, gb news home and security mark, thank you security editor. Mark, thank you for joining us. A hugely forjoining us. A hugely dramatic breakthrough here. A lot of people feared he may have jumped the country. I think actually when i spoke to you yesterday, suspicions were actually when i spoke to you yestermore suspicions were actually when i spoke to you yestermore that;uspicions were actually when i spoke to you yestermore that he icions were actually when i spoke to you yestermore that he ici0|still3re actually when i spoke to you yestermore that he ici0|still in much more that he was still in the local area. You were proven right. How effective and impressive think this impressive do you think this police been . Police operation has been . Its been well, i think its been a good Police Operation. They good Police Operation. They wanted to concentrate their search activity in the london area because they werent convinced that he had left the london area. Of course , course, london area. Of course, course, as any nationwide search is going to encompass, that does include food, ports and airports. So we saw all of the enhanced security at those ports and airports and all of the delays that ensued from that. But i think the police were still working on the theory that they believed he was in the local area until they heard otherwise. And i think what this does indicate to me anyway, is that it doesnt look like he received any kind of help from the outside or any substantial help of any measure. The very fact that he was still really in that area of west and south west london, more than three days on from his escape early on wednesday morning, tells you that there clearly was nothing organised in terms of getting him out of london because that would be the priority if anybody had actually arranged the escape , they would want to get him away from where that Significant Police activity was. Now the Police Activity was. Now the Police Activity was. Now the Police Activity initially really concentrate on the area that that bedford lorry took the lorry that he strapped himself underneath as he left the gate undetected by those guards at wandsworth prison. And that took wandsworth prison. And that took it right up to upper richmond road to the point where that was stopped. And of course, areas around there like Richmond Park, had got a lot of activity overnight right on thursday into friday. And then , you know, friday. And then, you know, called off on friday morning. Called off on friday morning. Thenit called off on friday morning. Then it was kind of back to the traditional sort of door to door enquiry , was looking at cctv enquiry, was looking at cctv from elsewhere on the route until we got that dramatic news through yesterday evening of a confirmed sighting of him just before the wandsworth roundabout of him getting out or at least leaving that bedford lorry and then walking down towards wandsworth high street or wandsworth high street or Wandsworth Town centre. It was Wandsworth Town centre. It was then obviously. Martin and then obviously. Martin and nothing was really heard until a bit later or well into the evening on on friday night when the search activity itself switched out to the Chiswick Area and then very fast moving overnight and into this morning with lots of Police Activity and multiple confirmed sightings of this man, changed his clothing. This man, changed his clothing. By this man, changed his clothing. By this time, he was out of his chefs uniform. That white top and the red and white checked trousers and was instead wearing a black baseball cap. Clearly in a black baseball cap. Clearly in a bid to hide his face and other dark clothing, including dark bottoms. And he was spotted bottoms. And he was spotted multiple times in the Chiswick Area. The Police Responded en area. The Police Responded en masse and they got their man. Masse and they got their man. According to Scotland Yard , just according to Scotland Yard, just before 11 00 this morning. Before 11 00 this morning. Mark white, thank you for joining us on this dramatic day. We can now go to bev turner gb news presenter , of course, who news presenter, of course, who lives in the area, was on the show earlier on, an eyewitness in the area. Dramatic, dramatic in the area. Dramatic, dramatic moments. Youre out for your morning you stumbled morning run and you stumbled into a Police Dragnet. Tell us into a Police Dragnet. Tell us what you saw and tell us what the latest is on the ground there. There. Yeah, apologies for the fact that im still in my running kit. Martin as you say, it has been a very fast moving here this morning. Weve been kept awake for two nights by Police Helicopters overhead. Theres been quite clear police been quite a clear police presence. Teddington twickenham, presence. Teddington twickenham, the area in which daniel grew up is a couple of 3 or 4 miles down the road here from chiswick, maybe a little more. And obviously wandsworth prison again, a bit in the same direction, a different direction, a different direction, but about same direction, a different dire was here five minutes ago and that was just in this particular area. And that was about 1015 this morning. And she said, if you see him ring 999 straight away, wearing black clothes away, hes wearing black clothes from t shirt, from head to toe, black t shirt, black rucksack. Dont approach black rucksack. Dont approach him. Ring 999. She said theres at moment theres at the moment theres a very long to through to 999. Long wait to get through to 999. So do try. And then shes so please do try. And then shes put the lights on. They went over the pay just walked past. Actually have said that they heard that he was this is unconfirmed but that he was found on the dukes avenue area near Chiswick High Road which is where the library is very popular with lots of children in the area, a lot of celebrity djs live around here. Not far from where he might have been reprimanded in the final instance. So, yeah, its been instance. So, yeah, its been very busy, but obviously everyone very relieved that hes been caught. Now, at this stage i okay. Beth, can you just give us an indication of the topography, the local area where the most likely mr khalifa been hiding out . So its a very wooded area, very green area. Lots of places where he can get under cover in the scrub. Yeah. And whats your theory on on where the place where he got off the lorry and where he was caught and the intervening time. Where think he was hiding where do you think he was hiding out . I dont know. Wandsworth terribly well , but wandsworth terribly well, but there is one rumour that ive heard today that he was followed towards kew bridge. So if you imagine most people are familiar with kew gardens, huge public park in london. Kew gardens is a very leafy area. There are lots of bridges along this section of the river thames where you can easily hide. And there is easily hide. And there is a rumour that he was sleeping on a park bench on kew bridge overnight. Last night, unconfirmed. This is just unconfirmed. This is just speculation from local people in the area. There was also a rumour this morning that hed got a car and was chased in a car. Again, unconfirmed , but the car. Again, unconfirmed, but the area is very quiet. As you can see, there is a lot of low traffic neighbourhoods around here. Its a ulez zone so the roads are quite quiet. Lots of roads are quite quiet. Lots of people have gardens, lots of people have gardens, lots of people have gardens, lots of people have driveways, lots of people have driveways, lots of people have driveways, lots of people have sheds and garages where would been easy to where it would have been easy to hide out. There are quite a lot of centres around here, of Sports Centres around here, a cricket club just over the road. Youve got the dukes meadow area, loads of rowing clubs actually its on the west of london. Were just close to junction , one of the m4, so you junction, one of the m4, so you can literally just hop out here and youre out into the countryside. A very nice countryside. So its a very nice area to live and it is very residential as you can see, interestingly. Martin in chiswick is or was until recently, it ran international, which is the iranian news channel. And that actually was forced to close because of the terrorist threats against the journalists working at the iran channelin journalists working at the iran channel in chiswick. Journalists working at the iran channel in chiswick. So chiswick channel in chiswick. So chiswick does have this connection to some iranian polity picks. I have no idea whether that is connected to daniel khalifa in any way. As mark was just saying , it very much seems like he was probably working on his own. Perhaps if there was somebody waiting to scoop him up, you think might be a boat think he might be on a boat overseas by he was overseas by now . He was obviously living rough few obviously living rough for a few days, that not have days, but that would not have been in this area. And been difficult in this area. And of course, with this beautiful weather, have been weather, it wouldnt have been entirely no doubt weather, it wouldnt have been ent adrenaline no doubt weather, it wouldnt have been ent adrenaline will no doubt weather, it wouldnt have been ent adrenaline will have doubt weather, it wouldnt have been ent adrenaline will have been his adrenaline will have been pumping days. Pumping for the last few days. Theres doubt about it. I was theres no doubt about it. I was interested comment interested to hear that comment by one of the people that he was in prison with saying that he always to famous. Always wanted to be famous. Well, that now. Well, hes got that now. He certainly is. Turner, he certainly is. Bev turner, thank the update, live thank you for the update, live from always working on from chiswick. Always working on your thats what i love your day off. Thats what i love about you. Thank you much about you. Thank you very much for news forjoining us on gb news saturday. Joined now in the studio by former metropolitan police Peter Bleksley, Police DetectivePeter Bleksley, good show. Peter good friend of the show. Peter dramatic day. As a former dramatic day. But as a former cop, got to say a great cop, you got to say a great result, a job well done. An intense live search, a water to land the boys in blue. They brought the bacon home and the girls . Yep. Yep girls . Ye p. Ye p. Sor ry, girls . Yep. Yep. Sorry, mate. Well done. The yep. Yep. Sorry, mate. Well done. The metropolitan police . Yeah. Very good. And huge. Yeah. Very good. And huge. Congratulations and thanks to those public spirited members of the public who rang 999 who gave that information because it seems pretty clear to me there has been a significant input from the good people of chiswick and other parts of west london. So a very big thank you to them as well. And i sincerely hope that one of them, as we speak, is claiming that £20,000 reward that the metropolitan police offered yesterday for information leading directly to his arrest, i sincerely hope thatis his arrest, i sincerely hope that is claimed. Its interesting because i live by another park in peckham, Police Helicopters are often in the air for all sorts of searches, but this was clearly very, very coordinated. And on very, very coordinated. And on the on local next door Group Messages ive been following throughout the early hours here, i was saying there were helicopters and there were river boats. They were shining lights into an area of the bank. There were terror units , terror unit were terror units, terror unit vans. There an entire Police Dragnet , a coordinated, joined dragnet, a coordinated, joined up and very powerful investigation. When it came to the end game and probably mobile cctv cameras with a facial recognition capability because the met have deployed those fairly sparingly and in a very targeted manner. This would have been a perfect sort of operation for that. But now is the time for everyone. And i mean the public everyone. And i mean the public and the media to take a collective deep breath because mr califf has not been convicted of anything wrong. Not yet. Those three charges, his that he faces were due to be heard in court in november. Thats right. We must all, including the public, we must not say anything in the Mainstream Media or on social media that would potentially jeopardise a fair trial. I am sure everybody wants to see that happen. So please exercise restraint. Everyone just in terms of what those charges are , is attempted. Charges are, is attempted. Khalid attempted to elicit information about an individual who was or had been a member of his majestys forces , which was his majestys forces, which was of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism. Thats the an act of terrorism. Thats the section 58, a terrorist act offence. And of course, the second one was the bomb hoax. By placing an article with intent, those charges are being faced in november. But back to you. And also a breach of the official secrets act. But they are charges. Nothing has been proven yet and it needs to go in front of a court and the whole Justice System needs to its course. System needs to run its course. In terms of we were speaking there perry benton , and he there with perry benton, and he will now face a stern, stiff additional sentence of escaping prison. And so hes going to be prison. And so hes going to be very, very highly guarded , very very, very highly guarded, very highly protected , perhaps highly protected, perhaps getting the sort of security he should have had before he was released into wandsworth. Yeah, he may face a charge of escaping from lawful custody. Thatis escaping from lawful custody. That is entirely possible. But of course, the police with the Ongoing Investigation will consult with the Crown Prosecution Service , who prosecution service, who ultimately will make a decision on any further charges that he may face. And once again, he mustnt be convicted in the court of public opinion. However what is inevitable is that he wont be going back to wandsworth prison because hes already successfully escaped from there once. So i suspect he might find himself in belmarsh , might find himself in belmarsh, which is of course a category a prison and has a astonishing levels of security. And im sure levels of security. And im sure mr califf should he be so minded, would not be able to escape from there . Well, i dont think a single prisoner has ever escaped from belmarsh. It takes hours to get into the in lawyers the place. In fact, lawyers often complain it takes so long to in, miss parole to get in, they miss parole meetings inside. Perhaps mr meetings inside. Perhaps mr canny should have been in a prison like that all along. Yes. I think those questions are rightfully already being asked and well what the asked and well see what the investigation bears forth. Id investigation bears forth. Id be very interested to find out how he sourced those straps, because remember, the justice secretary, alex schalk , did say secretary, alex schalk, did say to parliament on thursday straps were found underneath that lorry. So that investigation now must run its course. The answers must run its course. The answers will become public at some stage in the future, but for now, back in the future, but for now, back in custody , where, of course, he in custody, where, of course, he should have been all the time. And many of those Police Officers can stand down and possibly all the inevitable huge amount of resources perhaps can be deployed to combating some other types of crime. I was talking to chip chapman there, former Armed Service man, about the residual risk of the sort of information on that. Mr kelly may have got his hands on secrets for uk eyes only. Intel crypto military comms. How much of a pressing matter do you think that would be for the for the police to make sure that those loopholes are closed . Well, the army employed him, so