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I told them that the implementation of an eu common asylum policy, which basically said anyone that crossed the mediterranean and set foot on eu soil could stay. I warned them it would be a disaster here i was in 2015. Suspect that it is a shock. It would be a hell of a shock to many european citizens, including the british, to understand that we have already agreed a common european asylum system and what today is about and todays resolution is the direct implementation of it. The problem, ladies and gentlemen, is this the definition for who qualifies for asylum are so wide they include not just people coming from war, not just people coming from war, not just people coming from war, not just people coming from failed states. Mr juncker this morning seemed to suggest that perhaps it would even include people who were fleeing poverty. Maybe i am fleeing poverty. Maybe i am sorry. We simply cannot accept sorry. We simply cannot accept countless millions. Well, i countless millions. Well, i stand by every single word of that. And yet the millions started to come in 2015 and 16. And whilst its gone a little bit quieter across the mediterranean this year, the numbers that have come into italy are double what they were last year. And look at what happened to lampedusa over the weekend and over 10,000 young men arrive arrived across the med in small boats. 200 small boats. This wasnt med in small boats. 200 small boats. This wasnt organised by some random trafficker. This was almost a military scale operation. An this was an operation. An this was an invasion , almost double the invasion, almost double the population of the island around arrived over the course of the weekend. And some of those who weekend. And some of those who thought maybe they wouldnt be accepted began to get pretty aggressive. Now, this has to led aggressive. Now, this has to led the Prime Minister of italy, Giorgia Meloni, who was elected on a platform of stop the boats. Shes been in lampedusa with the unelected president of the European Commission , ursula von European Commission, ursula von der leyen. And meloni is saying der leyen. And meloni is saying , please help. We want the European Union to share these people around and we want a European Navy to try and stop the boats. As for the eu itself , those people are the very people i was criticising using in that speech in 2015. All she can say is she wants to establish safe and legal routes for people to come into the European Union , none of which is European Union, none of which is going to stop the boats and you can see in much of this debate that some very, very similar patterns with what we have in this country with rishi sunak enoch saying stop the boats unless the European Union or italy itself send people straight back to libya and tunisia. Many, many millions tunisia. Many, many millions more will come. And im going to more will come. And im going to speculate this will destroy the European Union , destroy it European Union, destroy it politically , and i think in time politically, and i think in time destroy it socially to sorry for that bleak prognosis is do you agree with me . Please let me know. Farage at gb news. Com will joining me now is anand menon, director of uk in a changing europe who joins me live from oxford. Well anand im speculating that if this goes on if this is the second really big wave of those crossing the mediterranean, it may well be a rapidly changing europe. Rapidly changing europe. Well, i think youre absolutely right to point out that this is the sort of crisis that this is the sort of crisis that the eu really struggles with, because when it comes to burden sharing, europe always fails to get agreement. And at fails to get agreement. And at the moment, what you see is some states like hungary and poland basically saying, were basically saying, no, were not going take part in this going to take part in this scheme, were not going to share people come to italy. Thats people who come to italy. Thats your not problem. Your problem, not our problem. So theres no doubt so i think theres no doubt about eu is going to about it, the eu is going to face a really severe test if these numbers keep coming over to. To lampedusa. Yeah, mean, the is, yeah, i mean, the truth is, adam, whats these adam, whats to stop these numbers from i mean, numbers from coming . I mean, there back , little there is no push back, little signs of pushback in greece that we last year, but no sign of we saw last year, but no sign of that from italy. No sign of that that from italy. No sign of that from georgia. Maloney. I mean , from georgia. Maloney. I mean, whos to say that the numbers that dont come this year and next year arent enormous . Where are they all going to go . Well , i are they all going to go . Well, i mean, i think its unfair to say the eu hasnt done anything because maloney and von der leyen were over in tunisia a few ago signing a deal few weeks ago signing a deal with tunisian government with the tunisian government to try get their help in try and get their help in stopping coming across. Stopping people coming across. But is genuine problem. But it is a genuine problem. There of there are large numbers of people, many of whom would qualify under our international or Italian International commitments Asylum Seekers to commitments to Asylum Seekers to stay. And europe doesnt have stay. And europe doesnt have a solution in sight. Solution in sight. No, i dont think it does politically and weve already in europe seen quite a significant rightward shift. Weve got, for example, in sweden, the swedish democrats in Coalition Government in germany, we now have the afd polling over 20 nationally and up in the high 20s, early 30s in parts of the former east germany. Maloney of course, is the Prime Minister of italy and le pen is now the bookies favourite to become the next president of france. Are we next president of france. Are we about to see europe move not just to the right but possibly genuinely to the far right . I mean, i mean, the first thing i would say is those polls from france i would always take with a pinch of salt because they always tend a few years out to be slightly hypothetical. And of course its round of course its a two round system designed system that is designed precisely like precisely to prevent people like le pen from from winning. But there is no doubt about it in a context of living context of a cost of living crisis plus spiralling numbers of immigrants coming in, that is Fertile Ground for the far right. And theres a real danger in politics that these in european politics that these parties keep on doing parties will keep on doing better under those circumstances. Parties. Yes. So mainstream parties need to find some kind of answers those problems. And answers to those problems. And at theyve been answers to those problems. And at slow theyve been answers to those problems. And at slow to theyve been answers to those problems. And at slow to do theyve been answers to those problems. And at slow to do so. Rve been quite slow to do so. Now we can look from here in the uk at whats happening in lampedusa and in Southern Europe and political that and the political divisions that weve but of weve just talked about. But of course it is, is course the truth of it is, is that virtually everybody that crosses channel in crosses the English Channel in an inflatable dinghy has first come across the mediterranean. So what is happening at lampedusa does have serious implications here, too, doesnt it . It does. In it does. I in it does. I mean, its it . It does. I mean, its worth it does. I mean, its worth beanng it does. I mean, its worth bearing in mind that the numbers here are very, very small compared to the numbers that are coming in to places like italy across the mediterranean. But yeah, the people that come yeah, the more people that come in southern in via europes southern border and that, and it stands to reason that, you know, the more people will make their way northern make their way up to northern france and come here, france to try and come here, albeit stressing that albeit its worth stressing that the far smaller the numbers are far, far smaller here than they are there. Yeah, no, no, absolutely. Mercifully, the numbers here are smaller, but, you mercifully, the numbers here are smaller, but , you know, i mercifully, the numbers here are smaller, but, you know, i just take the view that if double the number so far this year have crossed into italy, that will have a knock on effect here. Any prospect of the European Union saying enough of this is weve got to start sending the boats back . I back . I think its very , very i think its very, very unlikely because the eu is bound by the same International Conventions that were bound by under which people coming here have the right to have their asylum claims assessed and people who qualify under those rules will be allowed to stay. I rules will be allowed to stay. I mean, one of the problems in a lot of european countries, including our own, is were simply processing people simply not processing people quickly but enormous quickly enough, but enormous backlog and backlog in processing. And that doesnt help the situation. It is a mess. And manon, no, it is a mess. And manon, thank you very much indeed for joining us again here on gb news. Lets go direct to rome and speak to josephine mckenna, italian freelance journalist at josephine. Welcome to the program. And Giorgia Meloni , program. And Giorgia Meloni, this firebrand , this breath of this firebrand, this breath of fresh air, elected as Prime Minister of italy and one of the really big strong pledges that she made was that she would stop the boats, she would stop this huge tidal wave of people coming in from africa. And i would in from africa. And i would speculate , listening to her speculate, listening to her language at the weekend, politically , shes already in politically, shes already in some trouble. Some trouble. Yes , i think, nigel, youre yes, i think, nigel, youre correct there. Were starting to see her numbers under pressure. See her numbers under pressure. The latest polls show that the brothers of italy party is still running at around 30. But theres an indication from the recent surveys that people are running a little bit scared now and theyre worried about whether she does have the capacity to turn back the boats i yeah, i mean, to me , the odd yeah, i mean, to me, the odd thing, josephine, is , is shes thing, josephine, is, is shes elected as somebody that wants to stand up for italy and for italian people and shes going to take a tough line with the European Union. But effectively, what i saw was her begging the Commission President , ursula von der leyen, saying the European Union must come to our aid. The European Union must help the European Union must help the European Union must help the European Union needs a proper navy. Its as if shes abdicating that response ability to the European Union , which i to the European Union, which i would have thought from a eurosceptic stick, was the last thing i would have expected to hear. Hean well, i think to her credit, nigel, she has reached out. She has visited various countries. Has visited various countries. She joined with the European Union recently as your previous speaker mentioned to finance, send some finance to tunisia to try and stop the boats and create some sort of Economic Development in tunisia. Obviously, thats not working. And i think with the disasters were seeing in morocco and libya just in the last couple of weeks , were going to see a lot weeks, were going to see a lot more people looking for the exit route because there is nothing in those countries. Weve also seen the coups in Central Africa , pressure still in sudan. So people there are looking for a way out. And i think its going to be an uphill battle for Giorgia Meloni to stop the boats from coming. From coming. Yes, i mean, youre quite right to mention those recent natural disasters. Most of those that came at the weekend spoke french are coming from the former french colonies , many of former french colonies, many of which to quite deeply which appear to be quite deeply impoverished trouble. So impoverished and in trouble. So we may be looking, given the definitions and i pointed this out back in 2015, we may be looking i mean, seriously at many, many millions to come over the course of the next few years. Surely at some point, the course of the next few years. Surely at some point , surely. Surely at some point, surely at some point, voters in italy and elsewhere in the mediterranean often start to seek much more radical political alternatives than Giorgia Meloni i well, hm imam well, first of all, i think millions is a little extreme. Weve seen 130,000 arrivals this yean weve seen 130,000 arrivals this year, 130,000. Thats double the previous year. Uh, and not all of those people, as you know , of those people, as you know, will stay in italy. They will move to other countries through the asylum process, which is not working that effectively. Today, working that effectively. Today, the meloni government announced a new range of measures, including increasing repatriation , as i think thats repatriation, as i think thats a little ambitious. Weve seen a little ambitious. Weve seen that that hasnt worked very well in the past. But if they could step that up a bit and increase some of the Naval Operations in the mediterranean to try and stop the boats that may or may not have an effect, i still believe that millions is getting a little bit stratospheric at this point. Well, i tell you what, well over 1. 5 million have come since 2015. So you know, it may take a couple of years. But you see, the point that im making, i agree with you. I think there are there are increasing problems in many parts of africa. And the numbers, who knows . And the numbers, who knows . Joseph mckenna, thank you for joining us live from rome this evening. And folks, can you see it . Its a very similar debate it . Its a very similar debate and problem for an Italian Government as it is for a british government. You can go on promising people youll stop the boats. You can go on giving money to tunisia , to france, but money to tunisia, to france, but unless you physically stop those boats, take those people back, stop them paying the traffickers as there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop this from going on year after year and from the numbers becoming simple , early, enormous and all of it, as you heard in that interview, all of it, because were trapped by the European Convention on human rights , something that was human rights, something that was written and voted on and agreed over 70 years ago for a post war world that was a very different place to now. This morning at 10 00 sharp in central london, liz truss gave a really major pubuc liz truss gave a really major public speech. I was there in the audience, as indeed was gb news economics editor Liam Halligan. In a moment, we assess halligan. In a moment, we assess does liz truss still have a powerfu