Foes of our farmers will debate all of that and more, but that will follow the news with polly middlehurst. At middlehurst. At nigel, thank you and good evening to you. Well, the top story tonight is that the Prime Minister has set out this afternoon revised plans to his net zero in a controversial overhaul of the governments green policy. Among the measures green policy. Among the measures was a weakening of the phasing out of gas boilers , as well as out of gas boilers, as well as easing the transition to electric vehicles by pushing back a ban on new petrol and diesel cars until 2035. Rishi sunak said he wants a more realistic approach to net zero, which eases the burden on the british people. British people. Our destiny can be our own choosing , but only if we change choosing, but only if we change the way our politics works. Can the way our politics works. Can we be brave in the decisions we make, even if there is a political cost. Can we be honest when the facts change, even if its awkward. 7 and can we put the its awkward . And can we put the long term interests of our country before the short term political needs of the moment . Even if it means being controversial . Controversial . Well, that was just a couple of hours ago, but already the move has ignited quite a significant backlash. More than 250 charities and businesses have been urging the government not to weaken green targets. Shadow paymaster general Jonathan Ashworth says the Prime Ministers decision puts pressure now on households. Pressure now on households. It reveals rishi sunak is very weak. Hes being pushed around by liz truss and hes causing chaos. This is a set of announcements which is undermining Business Investment in this in this country is undermining the stability of our economy and its actually going to cost consumers more well away from net zero. The governments plan to deal with inflation is working. With inflation is working. According to the chancellor, the rate of inflation fell to 6. 7 in august. Thats down from 6. 8 in august. Thats down from 6. 8 in july. The bank of england had predicted the figure to increase to more than 7. It comes ahead of another expected Interest Rate rise tomorrow. Consultants rate rise tomorrow. Consultants and Junior Doctors took unprecedented industrial action today. Joining together to strike manning picket lines as well during a walkout over pay. Thousands of bma medics stopped work at nhs hospitals across england, delaying operations and placing more pressure on the nhs. And finally, the king and queen are in france as part of a three day state visit celebrating shared history, culture and values. They were greeted in france, in paris in fact, by the president , Emmanuel Macron and his wife at a ceremony of remembrance at the arc de triomphe before heading off to the elysee palace for talks. And this evening, the royal couples been attending a state banquet at the palace of versailles. We have wind as well versailles. We have wind as well of a host of celebrities in attendance this evening , attendance this evening, including hugh grant, didier drogba, football star Patrick Vieira and others will report on that later with gb news across the uk on tv. In your car, on digital radio, and now on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. This is britains news. Channel well, it all happened as a result of a leak. My guess is this was going to be rishi sunaks big Conference Speech in the first week of october up in manchester. But it leaked and he decided , well, i may as well own decided, well, i may as well own it. So a major speech from the Prime Minister at 430 today and it is a very significant speech. You know, ever since the late 19805. You know, ever since the late 1980s when Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister weve been talking about environmental policy. It led through to the kyoto agreement on to paris and then, of course, on to the Boris Johnson government wanting to be the greenest ever with the really for some of us, mad rush towards net zero. Now sunak says we are keeping our commitments. Were sticking with the paris agreement. Nothing is changing. Just the methodology and the practicality. See what were the practicality. See what were the big standout bits from todays speech . Well, firstly , you will speech . Well, firstly, you will still be able to buy a new petrol or diesel car up until 2035. Not the original cut off of 2030. Hes promised no , no of 2030. Hes promised no, no new green taxes for air travel on boiler upgrades. The subsidy goes from £5,000 per household to 7500 pounds per household. To 7500 pounds per household. And he says that Energy Certificates will not become more difficult for households. Theres a whole mass of things here. Theres even promises not to put taxes on meat. These are very, very major changes, but they bring quite big questions, namely , what are the divisions namely, what are the divisions within the conservative party over this . Boris johnson already not very happy. Lord zac not very happy. Lord Zac Goldsmith perhaps even on the verge of resigning , i think from verge of resigning, i think from the conservative party. Hes made it clear well go on exploring for oil and gas in the nonh exploring for oil and gas in the north sea. There could be up to north sea. There could be up to 150 mp5 north sea. There could be up to 150 mps who do not like this, tory mps who do not like this one. Little bit. So hes going to face some real challenges and yet and yet my sense of this is this is going to prove to be pretty popular for him and in particular in the red wall seats. So let me ask you, is this is a vote winner . Give me your thoughts, farage at gbnews. Com. Well lets go to the red wall right now. Lets go to dudley and lets speak to marco longhi, the conservative member of parliament from dudley north, who, of course, won that seat. Who, of course, won that seat. And you are a classic red wall seat, spent a lot more time as labour than conservative. Do you believe that your Prime Minister has done the right thing today . Has done the right thing today . Well, good evening, nigel. Its always a pleasure to join you on your show. You know that . Yes i believe this is a fantastic thing rishi has done. Ihave fantastic thing rishi has done. I have felt almost unwell at times at the eco zealotry. Sometimes that has been coming from even some of my own colleagues completely disregarding those working class people who were disproportionately having to face the huge costs and the practicalities that were also involved with them. Now, rishi has been very clear today that he is not saying he doesnt want to achieve net zero. He is not reducing the ambitions that we want, which is all to have a Greener Planet. But the way we are going to roll that out is going to be in a much fairer, more pragmatic way. And this is definitely dudley people want. So does this allow the conservatives to say, look, if youre on average income or below , youre a pensioner that below, youre a pensioner that actually we, the conservative party, are on the side of the poorest as opposed to a labour party who have just brought in, for example, the ulez extension in london will go on subsidising wind energy to a huge degree. Is this a big piece of positioning ahead of the next general election. Election. Oh, without question. To my mind , this is definitely mind, this is definitely positioning and its one that ive been pushing for almost from day one. You know, this is something ive almost felt unwell about and this is not a teaspoon full of medicine. Its a huge tablespoonful of medicine for me. This is look, this is huge news and im really , really huge news and im really, really pleased. Look, i have two young daughters. Im hoping to be a grandfather one day. I want a Greener Planet. But its the way that we were going about it before that was just completely unrealistic. And we have been so unrealistic. And we have been so weve been leading the world. Thatis weve been leading the world. That is absolutely true. But that is absolutely true. But weve been so ahead of our own targets that we can now afford to look at this again. And do it in a more pragmatic way. Oh, mark, weve led the world brilliantly. Weve just sacked 3000 steelworkers over the course of the weekend and name of the weekend. And the name of going no, weve going green. No, no, weve certainly world. And how certainly led the world. And how big is the rebellion going to be within your party at your conference in manchester . I genuinely dont know. Conference in manchester . I genuinely dont know. I mean, look, all i would say is that the policies that we had before were policies designed by very well off members of Parliament Standing in very well off constituencies that dont have to deal with the sort of problems that i have on my Council House estates and many of the red wall seats, but well beyond the red wall. You know, i have seen comments coming from conservative whatsapp groups, not a single one is coming out as negative so far. So this is very significant. And i must very significant. And i must make the point that , you know, make the point that, you know, the Prime Minister is very clear. We all want a Greener Planet in the future. But the way we are going about it is going very different and going to be very different and much proportionate and much much more proportionate and much fairer to people. Thats the key thing. Marco longhi, thank you for joining me once again on this show on gb news. Well joining me with extraordinary timing is matt goodwin, pollster and professor of politics at the university of kent. Im also joined by quintin wilson, former top gear presenter and campaigner for low emission and electric cars. Matt i cant believe your luck, really. Youve commissioned a piece of polling that you said you would exclusively reveal on this programme before we even knew that rishi sunak was going to give this speech and youve been polling attitudes to some of these green ideas and in particular the attitudes of motorists to the way government are talking to them. So the big headline, i suppose in many ways is this 20, 30 to 2035, the five year slippage. But you know, you can buy electric cars at any time, but equally you can buy new diesel and petrol cars from 30 to 35. When you polled that, what did the public say . What did the public say . Well, as your previous guest just said, nigel, among the key groups of voters for rishi sunak, this policy is very popular among all voters across the country. 50 are opposed to banning petrol and diesel cars by 2030, only a third of them support it. But look at these key groups that rishi sunak has to win back. Opposition 63 among brexiteer ers, 63 among bofis among brexiteer ers, 63 among Boris Johnsons, 2019 voters, 64 among the working class middle class professionals support it. Class professionals support it. Workers oppose it, and crucially, pretty much everybody over the age of 50, again , key over the age of 50, again, key conservative voters typically that rishi needs to win back. That rishi needs to win back. They really dont like some of this net zero stuff. So look , this net zero stuff. So look, just put what youre seeing on social media to one side for a minute. If he is to stand any chance of winning the next election , appealing to those key election, appealing to those key groups is what he has to do. And theyre going to like this stuff. Now. I live right on the edge of kent and greater london, the furthest point from Central London where put ulez london where they put ulez cameras. Ive seen cameras. Ive never seen such local anger over an issue not just because it hits pensioners and it hits people with their self employed, with their delivery vans , even those that delivery vans, even those that have got newer cars. Just think its wrong and its unfair. Im not going to achieve anything over paul. I mean, there are 37 million of us that drive cars. You polled attitudes towards whether you know, environmental taxes and penalties on motorists had gone too far. Taxes and penalties on motorists had gone too far. Yeah. Had gone too far. Yeah. So again, we find that a large plurality of voters about coming up to half the country think environmental penalties and fees on motorists have gone too far. Only about 1 in 5 people in the country think theyre about right now. Ive written extensively , as you written extensively, as you know, about why i think this issue is going to become one of the next big rebellions in british politics, because as ive just shown you with the polling, youre is polling, what youre seeing is a more affluent, professional and city based political media, cultural class and vacating lots of these policies. But many workers, many pensioners , as workers, many pensioners, as many squeezed voters , many many squeezed voters, many people in the smaller towns and the coastal community, liz, are looking at some of this stuff. And the Prime Minister said and as the Prime Minister said today, know, they just cant today, you know, they just cant make they say, make sense of it. They say, well, why i being asked to well, why am i being asked to pay l well, why am i being asked to pay i have to pay pay this . Why do i have to pay £12. 50 time i in my £12. 50 every time i get in my non compliant car, guess. Non compliant car, i guess. I guess wilson and i guess Quinton Wilson thats way, isnt thats the point in a way, isnt it . Mean, if your lord, zac it . I mean, if your lord, Zac Goldsmith, a fortune, goldsmith, are worth a fortune, then great then electric cars are great because its just a little bit of pocket money. Weve of pocket money. But when weve already know, already got people, you know, struggling ulez, struggling like crazy with ulez, isnt five year extension isnt this five year extension of the ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars . It bnngs petrol and diesel cars . It brings us in. It brings us into line actually with where germany have gone and many other countries. Is this not in have gone and many other countries. Is this not in a politically. Well talk about the business angle in a minute, is it not a simple, pragmatic, straightforward move . Ulez was a mistake and its kind of weaponised air quality and environmental issues. And it was you know, i said at the time this, this, this is completely wrong headed. So weve got this this real polarisation in society now. And the motoring lobby is being being courted by, by, by sunak. But but we will lose our place on the world stage if and marcos said that were ahead. You said were ahead. Were not. Were being deindustrialised away by deindustrialised. No, but look, look, look. Is no, but look, look, look. Is it net zero about de industrializing. De industrializing. Net zero is about making as much as we can for jobs net zero is about making as much as we can forjobs and much as we can for jobs and Economic Activity in the uk. Economic activity in the uk. Thats the opportunity that we face. And jeremy hunt said it was £1 trillion opportunity. Now theyve changed their tune and weve seen this whole tirade today from all these businesses saying, why are you doing this . Why are you pulling the rug from underneath . And this is important. And i fully understand this point. There are businesses that have been gearing up for the 2030 date, but equally , they can make date, but equally, they can make their cars and hopefully make their cars and hopefully make their batteries. Theyll make them somewhere else. Would they make nigel why would they make them somewhere else . Better environment, them somewhere else . More better environment, them somewhere else . More economically environment, them somewhere else . More economically friendlynent, a more economically friendly environment, an environment with where europe, you know, where europe, america you know, where europe, america you know, where there is. I mean, germany is 20, 35 as well. Yeah, but look, thats because the german car industry didnt didnt want it. Because the german car industry didnt didnt want it. We have didnt didnt want it. We have this to catch up this ability now to catch up with the rest of the world when it comes to electric cars and battery factories, 25 battery factories europe being built factories in europe being built and planned. Weve got one and a half and the one weve been the second the just the last is second one, the just the last is 4 billion. That could disappear because because theres because of this, because theres no certainty in industrial policies. Im talking about jobs. Im talking about prosperity. Im talking about clean air, cheaper energy. Cheaper energy. Well, im im talking about jobs. Well, im im talking about jobs. 3000 steelworkers gone at jobs. 3000 steelworkers gone at the weekend. Why . Were getting rid of the same coal blast furnaces used all over the world. Were moving to electric arc, which recycles second hand steel. Weve stopped being a steel. Weve stopped being a primary steel producer. Thats madness. From a Strategic Point of view, im not a steel expert , but the point im making is that we have actually got rid of a lot of heavy industries the a lot of heavy industries in the name green because they name of going green because they dont. We have had the most expensive electricity prices weve aluminium weve lost both of our aluminium smelters. Weve gone for wind smelters. Weve gone for wind energy , weve put masses on energy, weve put masses on peoples bills. And really peoples bills. And really i think what professor goodwin is saying here with these numbers is interesting and it is that if you go to what we would call working class voters, a lot of 2019 tories, a lot of people for whom the cost of living crisis is very, very real, that you see these very large majorities who think actually what sunak has done today is the right thing. Done today is the right thing. We have to recognise these people, dont we . We do and we need to help their futures and give them jobs and help them retrain and