Headunes. Of that, lets grab the news headlines. Michelle thank you. Headlines. Michelle thank you. Well, the main story on gb news today is that the former nurse, lucy letby, has filed a bid to challenge her conviction at the court of appeal. The 33 year old was found guilty of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder six more at the countess of Chester Hospital between 2015 and 2016. The most prolific child serial killer in modern british history was sentenced to a whole life order at Manchester Crown court this month. Now shes going for appeal. Well bring you more on that, of course, if we get it. Now, the man killed in a dog attack in Stafford Shire has been named by police. 52 year old ian price died in hospital after being seriously injured in stonnall near walsall at around 3 15 this yesterday afternoon. He had been attacked by two dogs. A 30 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of being in charge of dogs dangerously out of control and causing injury is believed both dogs were american excel bullies. Well, the Prime Minister has said that breed will be banned in the uk by the end of the yeah in the uk by the end of the year. Labour supports that proposed ban. Proposed ban. The first step is to convene a group of experts in the field and the police to define the breed and then using the powers under the existing dangerous dogs act. We will then be able to ban the breed and laws will be in place by the end of the yeah be in place by the end of the year. But its clear from the attacks weve seen tragic incidences that we do need to take action to protect the pubuc take action to protect the public stop attacks. Public and stop these attacks. And thats were to going and thats what were to going do. Do. Well, also in the news today, three members of sara sharifs family have been remanded in custody after being charged with the ten year olds murder. Sarahs father, irfan sharif, and his partner and brother appeared in court today. And his partner and brother appeared in court today. Theyve appeared in court today. Theyve also been charged with causing or allowing the death of a child. Sara was found dead at her home in woking in surrey after officers were called from pakistan by the childs father. Pakistan by the childs father. On the 10th of august. Unions have vowed to fight the government tooth and nail after a half billion pound Government Investment in tata steel has the union says put 3000 jobs at risk. The government says, however, it will support more than 12,000 jobs in a sector overall. Tata jobs in a sector overall. Tata has been in talks with the government to switch from coal fired to electric furnaces in an effort to reduce Carbon Emissions by 1. 5. The business and trade secretary, kemi badenoch, says the government is saving the industry. This is good for the taxpayer, this is good for the workforce because actually when we do have a new electric arc furnaces, were going to be able to have many more industries. We can have offshore wind. Therell be a whole redevelopment of the sites. This is actually a great deal not just pothole, but deal not just for pothole, but but for the uk. And what i would say to people who are concerned about job is we do about job losses is that we do understand and we have a transition plan in place thats funded up to about £100 million to make sure that people have skills to retrain. Skills to retrain. But the shadow business secretary, Jonathan Reynolds , secretary, Jonathan Reynolds, says the government says this moment should be about creating jobs. I think only this conservative government could spend half £1 billion making thousands of people rich redundant. I was at port talbot yesterday. I was talking to the yesterday. I was talking to the workforce. Of course they support green steel. Of course they want to see this transition take place. But they they were promised theyd be a part of it. They were promised theyd be consulted plans the consulted on the plans for the future. Fundamentally, future. And fundamentally, this should a story about more should be a story about more jobs. There are huge opportunities for green steel in the uk and the way that this has been presented to them obviously has worried. Has them worried. Now a french couple has been jailed for almost ten years after trying to smuggle vietnamese migrants into the uk hidden inside furniture. Junior toussaint and adrien paul were sentenced to nine years and 11 months in prison. After pleading guilty to assisting unlawful migration into the uk. The pair migration into the uk. The pair squeezed vietnamese migrants, including children in side specially adapted sofas and chests of drawers in an effort to smuggle them through Border Control checks at the port of newhaven. Now train drivers will newhaven. Now train drivers will strike at the end of this month in their long running dispute over pay. The aslef union saying its members at 16 train operator will walk out on the 30th of september and the 4th of october and the action will coincide with the conservative partys annual conference. The union said the strikes force said the strikes will force train operators to cancel all services , causing travel services, causing travel disruption for passengers as and 80 prison officers at hmp wandsworth did not attend their shifts on the day Daniel Khalife escaped from prison. Thats according to a government minister. The 21 year old escaped from wandsworth prison last week and was later arrested after a four day manhunt. Khalife disappeared while awaiting trial after being charged with terror offences in january. An investigation will january. An investigation will look at whether the prison followed relevant protocols. Followed relevant protocols. Youre with gb news across the uk on your tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. This is britains news. Channel three. Thanks for that polly. Im Michelle Dewberry till 7 00 tonight. Dawn neesom alongside me, the former editor editor of the daily star. I need to go to home bed. I think you can tell its friday and im very im actually high fiving myself internally that i didnt call you a dawn neesom because any time i see you, anyone thats not a regular to this show will have no idea what i am talking about. That is stuck with me how. Now. Im identifying as prawn. Just just for just for you, michel. Just for this afternoon. Just for you. Just for you, michel. Just for thisjustzrnoon. Just for you. 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Mrs. I like that you can Divorce Proceedings starting Divorce Proceedings starting next week. Well, thats all right. Well, thats all right. Sure theres a delightful im sure theres a delightful bunch there that bunch of people out there that are hook up are single. Ill hook you up with them. Kevin says. Well, lots getting in touch lots of you getting in touch already me. Actually, lots of you getting in touch alreadquick me. Actually, lots of you getting in touch alreadquick off�. Actually, lots of you getting in touch alreadquick off the tually, lots of you getting in touch alreadquick off the mark. Youre quick off the mark tonight on friday. Whos tonight on this friday. Whos this . Says michelle, this . Kevin says michelle, correct me if im correct me. Correct me if im wrong, but i think at the start of program, that of this program, you said that the of criminality in the age of criminality in england is 12. Ken england and wales is 12. Ken says , i thought it was ten. You says, i thought it was ten. You can tell me off if ive got it wrong. No, ken, it was me that got wrong. Was just got it wrong. I was just checking you lot are wide checking that you lot are wide awake you are. Youve passed awake and you are. Youve passed the awake i like the friday awake test. I like it. Youre absolutely right. The criminality country, criminality age in this country, in wales is indeed, in england and wales is indeed, as just saying, in england and wales is indeed, as just saying , 12, ten. As i was just saying, 12, ten. Its ten in this country and 12 in scotland. And this the reason in scotland. And this the reason this is very important is this is the crux of the main debate. I want to have with you tonight to kick this programme off. So i want all your thoughts. You can correct me all you like. Vaiews gbnews. Com email vaiews gbnews. Com is my email address me as address and you can tweet me as well gb news because any of well at gb news because any of you that any of you guys that are you will are on social media, you will have a video and it really, have seen a video and it really, really pretty disturbing. Really is pretty disturbing. Right . Me in my right . And it stopped me in my tracks. I want to issue tracks. I want to issue a warning to you because am warning to you because i am about this video, but about to play this video, but i have obviously blurred out the faces of the people involved. Let me just play it for you and then well discuss why regina, regina. Where are we . Regina. Where are we . Try. What do you mean, try . Try. What do you mean, try . Let me try. No oh. Oh this video is just take my word for it. Its pretty horrific. It took place near manchester and its gone viral andifs manchester and its gone viral and its sparked , obviously a and its sparked, obviously a huge outrage. Now, the police huge outrage. Now, the police then took to twitter off the back of this outrage and confirmed that they have arrested a 12 year old girl. Now, obviously for assault and the rest of it now , im not the rest of it now, im not going to discuss the specifics of this girl because its an ongoing case. But a conversation has been sparked, paul, about whether or not in this country, the age of criminality, she is at the right level or not. Whether or not children for doing acts that obviously are criminal should be tried in that way as criminals as opposed to damaged individuals, whether or not they should have criminal records and all rest of it. Records and all the rest of it. Where you stand on it . Where do you stand on it . Well, im no bleeding heart liberal, but i think i have to say, i think the age of ten is probably too low. So ten is england. And wales, ten is england and wales. Is scotland. Scotland. I 12 is scotland. Scotland. I think is too low as think arguably 12 is too low as well. I if you well. Actually, i think if you look many countries in europe look at many countries in europe , higher than , they have an age higher than that 14, sometimes even that 13, 14, sometimes even higher than that. And i just think it is difficult to be sure that kids, certainly kids at ten know the difference or have been taught the difference between right and wrong in any serious , right and wrong in any serious, meaningful way. Really well, i think particularly if you think of kids from disadvantaged backgrounds where there may have been a complete absence of love of care and they may not have been imbued with that moral compass that many other people are imbued with. So as i say, im not a bleeding heart liberal on this because i think certainly the parents need to be held accountable. I think if your kid is going out and committing acts like the horrendous one that weve just seen , i certainly dont believe seen, i certainly dont believe that the parents should escape some degree of response ability for that. Im all in favour of throwing the book at the parents because i think the parents can have big impact in a young have a big impact in a Young Persons in them persons life in teaching them right from wrong. Kid right from wrong. But the kid themselves, real themselves, i would have real problems they must problems with saying they must be held criminally accountable problems with saying they must be helcage. 1inally accountable at that age. What would you be what age then would you be happy with . I mean, i would need to i would need to look at the evidence. I would need listen evidence. I would need to listen to arguments for particular to the arguments for particular ages. Im not going put ages. So im not going to put one im going to put one out one im not going to put one out of but nonetheless, of the air. But nonetheless, seeing that stuff, now seeing all that stuff, now youve concluded that the of youve concluded that the age of ten too young. No, im ten is too young. No, im talking from my from my experience, think the age experience, i think that the age of too young. And im of ten is too young. And im open about what the age open minded about what the age should were all should be, but whilst were all talking, should be higher. Talking, it should be higher. Were all talking whilst were all talking about old criminals, about ten year old criminals, let a nanosecond to let me just take a nanosecond to remind you of this. This pair of disgusting, despicable ten year remind you of this. This pair of disgindividualspicable ten year remind you of this. This pair of disgindividuals asable ten year remind you of this. This pair of disgindividuals as they ten year remind you of this. This pair of disgindividuals as they were. Ar old individuals as they were. And im sure that some of you will know who i am talking about and yeah, of course, little gems. Bulger there alongside one of the people that went to on kill him. And i mean, when i when i think about paul saying about ten year olds and all the rest of it, those boys will never leave my brain. Look at them. Leave my brain. Look at them. And some people go, oh, michel, you know, pack it in their children are theyre not their absolute anyway , the thing is, i absolute anyway, the thing is, i mean, its horrific, michel, and no one can ever forget that. And im sort of sort of like, you know, ive spoken to Denise Bulger , jamies mum, on several bulger, jamies mum, on several occasions , and this lives with occasions, and this lives with her on a daily a daily basis. It was horrific what Robert Thompson and jon venables did and jon venables is still serving time because he keeps repeat offending sexual offences. So there is criminal criminality from the age of ten within that person. So i do disagree with paul. I think the age of ten is right. There are many countries in europe that have the age of ten. Scandinavia is a different one where they have criminal age of 15, but have the criminal age of 15, but then they will try and sort of like take the decriminalising thing out of a criminal of 15 and get them social care instead. But there are many, many countries around the world where the criminal age of consent is seven. Now i disagree with it being that low, and there was one country where the criminal age consent is actually zero and thatis age consent is actually zero and that is mauritius. Age consent is actually zero and that is mauritius. Really . Yeah, that is mauritius. Really . Yeah, absolutely. The burden of proof, absolutely. The burden of proof, though , is you have to prove though, is you have to prove that that child, how old that child is , knew what they were child is, knew what they were doing. And that is a problem. But they dont actually have a legal age of criminal consent. It can be from birth, obviously. Its ridiculous. Yeah , probably not. Yeah, probably not. Yeah, probably not. But but mean, it does yeah, but but i mean, it does vary around the world. Mean, vary around the world. I mean, sort of countries between sort of most countries between seven ten seems to be pretty seven and ten seems to be pretty much agreed. And scotland was only put up to 12 a couple of years ago, by the way. So, see, i think 12 is too old. I think that i think scotland should be brought into line with those guys. For example, in england it should be ten, it should be united. Okay. Okay. So let me let me ask you this. Do you believe in the proposal for votes at 16 . Oh, we go. Oh, we go. No, its a legitimate question because i dont i and ive made this argument ive made this argument frequently that i think that you cannot say that i think that you cannot say that children of that age, some of still school, of whom will still be at school, have the wherewithal to be have got the wherewithal to be able to go into a ballot box and choose government of the choose the government of the day. Argument consistently. I would say, no, dont i would say, no, i dont agree with votes for 16 year olds because of them, olds because lots of them, i think of 18, youve got a think age of 18, youve got a stake in society. Youve hopefully been paying tax for a little bit. Youre probably been working the rest of it. Working and all the rest of it. So i would bring you in then. But to me, thats quite different. Would you say that 16 year olds and people have called olds and some people have called for for 14 olds as for votes for 14