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Of their state visit starmer eu, turn. The labour leader tries to turn. The labour leader tries to clarify his position on brexit after saying he wouldnt diverge from eu rules. Yes, very strange comments there from sir keir starmer. Let us know what you make about that. Were going to be talking about that a little bit later on. And about that a little bit later on. And also we want to know, are you still buying bovril and tinned peaches . Apparently, theyre the way and theyre on the way out and people buying balsamic people are buying balsamic vinegar instead. Vinegar and matcha tea instead. Is you do let us know. Is that you do let us know. Vaiews gbnews. Com. But first, lets get a newsflash in with Tatiana Sanchez. Tatiana sanchez. Ellie, thank you very much and good morning. This is the latest from the newsroom. Ministers would be forced to consult the economic watchdog before implementing major budget changes. According to plans by the labour party, the shadow chancellor says it will ensure the mistakes of liz trusss so called mini budget are not repeated. Rachel reeves cited the higher cost of mortgages, energy bills and everyday food items. Among the consequences of items. Among the consequences of the former Prime Ministers short lived economic reform. But minister for food , farming and minister for food, farming and fisheries, mark spencer , says fisheries, mark spencer, says the truss mini budget isnt to blame for soaring prices. I think global population is continuing to increase. On the back of that, weve got the challenges of Climate Change and then if you throw into the mix a Global Pandemic and a war in europe, thats whats really driven the price of energy and of food through the roof. We need to invest in our farmers, in our uk Food Producers to make sure that they have the best technology, the best stock, the best techniques and of course, taxpayer support to continue to produce this great food. Great food. The chancellor says very difficult decisions will make tax cuts virtually impossible. Tax cuts virtually impossible. Some of jeremy hunts Party Colleagues , including former colleagues, including former Prime Minister liz truss , are Prime Minister liz truss, are reportedly pushing for tax relief after better than expected economic news. Hunt says he wishes that there were an option, but the government must stick with its plan to bnng must stick with its plan to bring down inflation and Interest Rates. And end the Interest Rates. And end the staple foods such as rice, spaghetti, baked beans and teabags can cost more than three times their usual price if budget versions are not available. All Consumer Group available. All Consumer Group which found example aisles such as a large bag of asdas own brand rice is usually priced at around £1. 80. But if no own brand was available , the bens brand was available, the bens original version could cost almost £5. The cheaper options are often unavailable to shoppers who rely on local convenience shops , which is convenience shops, which is calling on supermarkets to ensure they stock their value ranges across all of their locations. For more on those locations. For more on those stories, you can visit our website, gbnews. Com. Now its back to tomanelli. Back to tomanelli. Good morning. The time is 933 and youre watching britains newsroom with me. And tom harwood. And before we get into todays program, we do want to ask you, are you still buying bovril . Because this is in the daily mail this morning. Its got us talking, hasnt it, steven and ann, a little bit earlier on, were talking about it as well. Apparently, were not anymore. Not buying bovril anymore. Not buying bovril. No, were not buying bovril. Were not buying corned beef. Condensed tinned condensed milk, spam or tinned peaches out of the shelves. Those into the shelves. Those go and into the shelves. Come quinoa , miso come matcha, tea, quinoa, miso paste seeds and balsamic vinegar. Are you guilty of that . Of are you guilty of that . Of that list . Ive got balsamic vinegar, but i dont stock my cupboards with seeds. So ill tell you who with seeds. So ill tell you who does. My mother. She has loads of shes a rabbit. Of seeds. Shes like a rabbit. Oh, in an affectionate way. Oh, in an affectionate way. I like rabbit. Yeah he does mean it. Oh, no. Im just sorry, but is that you at home . Is that what youre doing . Are you swapping out the classic items for perhaps a more modern twist . Yeah. Im the same as you. Got balsamic vinegar, you. Ive got balsamic vinegar, but milk, and but i love condensed milk, and i love peaches. Love tinned peaches. I have had miso paste in in the past. When im making something specific. But wont. Something specific. But i wont. I wont have sitting there. No, well there. no, no, no. Well do let us know if thats you. Vaiews gbnews. Com. But lets get our next story now. And get into our next story now. And the in the midst one the nhs is in the midst of one of most disruptive strikes of its most disruptive strikes yet with a joint strike with Junior Doctors consultants. Junior doctors and consultants. The Health Service is yes, the Health Service is facing chartered facing unsure chartered territory, thousands of territory, with thousands of patients appointed appointments expected to be cancelled. Expected to be cancelled. Well, joining us in the studio now is Junior Doctor bhasha mukherjee. Good morning bhasha mukherjee. Good morning to you. Very, very good to have you with us. So why have you personally decided to go on strike for the same reasons why all of the other Junior Doctors who are striking are doing the same is to protect the nhs , essentially. And we care about the patients as much as the other person. And ultimately, this is about the future of the nhs and protecting the nhs , retaining protecting the nhs, retaining doctors. And thats the same reason that were all doing this strike. I suppose a lot of people would think its hard to square that circle of an idea of protecting the nhs when weve learned this morning that each striking doctor is costing £3,000 for the nhs for these replacements to come in and try and provide a basic level of service, ultimately we have to see this, that we are the employees and ultimately the taxpayer is paying towards the government who are in charge of where the money is spent. And at the moment the nhs is struggling and that is because of losing doctors every year were losing thousands of doctors every year. The strike is just to say this is enough is enough. Were losing doctors. The doctors who are staying behind are inevitably having to work harder and harder to fill those spaces. And actually its those spaces. And actually its just a failing system. Were just a failing system. Were just trying to uphold. And ultimately, were all getting burnt out. Lots of doctors are considering leaving and going abroad to work abroad and this this will just carry on. If we dont stop it here. And make it make it a reason , viable reason make it a reason, viable reason for people to stay behind and actually work in the nhs. I mean the nhs, as we always say, is a system on its knees, isnt it . And when tom talks about £3,000, a shift for a placement coven £3,000, a shift for a placement cover, is it moral to charge that much for cover for a system thats already on its knees . Well , ultimately, thats already on its knees . Well, ultimately, think about it. This should have been dealt with last year. This time last with last year. This time last yean with last year. This time last year, weve been having this discussion for years now about making it fair, and weve spent almost a billion this year on on just, you know, filling the gaps in the rotas for these strikes where thats about how much it would to , be you know, to give would to, be you know, to give the Junior Doctors the pay restoration essentially. So it restoration essentially. So it is actually the government that theyre making these choices. Theyre making these choices. And from just the conversation, you guys are having earlier, no ones what the mps ones happy with what the mps are doing and theyre not filling their roles properly. And you and ultimately, ali, if you think about the taxpayers and ultimately, ali, if you thirpayingt the taxpayers and ultimately, ali, if you thirpaying towards, axpayers and ultimately, ali, if you thirpaying towards, younyers and ultimately, ali, if you thirpaying towards, you know , are paying towards, you know, this lump sum and how much is being spent on mps £86,000. Mp you know, that is down in real terms over the last ten years. Mps if their pay had kept up with inflation, would be over £100,000 a year. But because inflation has been so high over the last over the last year or so, mps pay in real terms has been cut compared to where it was a decade receiving a 5 increase. Well, weve been receiving a 2 increase year with the 2 increase every year with the 9 inflation, but then mps get covering costs for their staffing , their office supplies, staffing, their office supplies, their. Travel all staffing, their office supplies, their. Travel all and various other things. We dont get those looking at where an mp salary might be £86,000 a year, which is around £20,000 less than it would be if it had kept up with inflation. Looking at where consultants earn , thats much more than mps. Earn, thats much more than mps. Mps on 86 consultants could be on 120, 130, 140. Who would you trust with your life . Life . So i think thats thats a thats a very fair point. But isnt it the case that a lot of these people going on strike are incredibly well paid . Some of the best paid people in the country . Its not about the individual amount its amount theyre being paid. Its about making it fair for everyone and stopping them from leaving the workforce essentially , were getting paid essentially, were getting paid much less as compared to other parts of the world for the same job. And essentially. What is job. And essentially. What is stopping the doctors from just leaving and going to these other countries . Weve its called the mass doctors mass exodus of Junior Doctors for reason , because thousands for a reason, because thousands of doctors are leaving the country. Why . Why would they stay . So we want to give them a reason to stay. This is why were striking. Thats were striking. Thats essentially it. Like your aim can do you feel like your aim can actually achieved, though, actually be achieved, though, when steve when you hear from steve barclay, the secretary barclay, the Health Secretary his latest statement , he spoke his latest statement, he spoke about doctors getting about Junior Doctors getting an average 10. 3, an average pay rise of 10. 3, an average pay rise of 10. 3, an average of 8. 8 at the lowest paid will get 10. 3, he said. Thats more than what most people in the uk are going to be receiving. If youre in the private sector, you might be lucky to get a 2 pay rise. What do you say to that . I would just say that its a case of, you know, meeting meets king. What were asking for , the king. What were asking for, the government hasnt even come forward to actually have a discussion with us and all these numbers are just flying around. But theres not been a formal discussion and a formal negotiation with everybody in the room to discuss how we can make the situation better. I suppose that that offer of over 10 for the lowest paid Junior Doctors over 8 on average. Its a similar deal that was offered to nurses of course, who accepted that deal, who have ended their strikes and who have ended their strikes and who are getting on to work. Why is it different for doctors than it is for nurses . I cant say i it is for nurses . I cant say i cant speak for the nurses of course, but i know that its taken a lot for 70 of the Junior Doctors in this country to strike for six months. And then , you know, weve and then, you know, weve balloted and chose to strike again and this shows that theres a solidarity amongst us. We all feel undervalued at work and i think we want to we have decided on that number together with the bma for a reason, and its reasonable because of the 26 overall pay regression that weve weve seen in the last ten years. And this is just to meet up to that ultimately , how up to that ultimately, how difficult of it was the decision for you personal, to go out on strike . I mean, you took a hippocratic hippocratic oath, didnt you . You didnt . No, we dont have to do that. No, we dont have to do that. You dont need to do that anymore. But you you ultimately care about Patient Safety and you about people. Thats, you care about people. Thats, of why you decided to of course, why you decided to become a doctor. So it must have been a very difficult decision to out. To decide to walk out. I care about my patients whilst care. Whilst theyre under my care. Ultimately , im an employee ultimately, im an employee and the nhs is an organisation. And the nhs is an organisation. Thats run by the government. They are in charge of the nhs. We are just employees. They are in charge of the nhs. We are just employees. We work we are just employees. We work for the hours that we work and we are responsible for our patients until theyre under our control. This is this control. Obviously this is this isnt just a case of, you know , isnt just a case of, you know, i cant be sitting here responsible for every patient everywhere at all times. And the everywhere at all times. And the strike motions there, you know, it is within our rights to for strike essentially, you know, were not happy with the conditions that were working unden okay. Bashir mukerjee, really good to see you this morning. Thank you so much for your company. Well, do let us know company. Well, do let us know what you make of that strike action this week by Junior Doctors and consultants. Yes, doctors and consultants. Yes, there is going to be disruption. Do let us know if that affects you. What side of this do you fall on . Vaiews gbnews. Com. Well, suppose, crucially, well, i suppose, crucially, should doctors and should Junior Doctors and consultants doing this consultants be doing this at precisely the same time causing the amount disruption . In other news, of course, but in other news, of course, the bank of england has raised their rates 14 times in a row up until this week. Their battle to until this week. Their battle to control inflation has been placed on pause , perhaps with placed on pause, perhaps with this hold on increases yes, the rate of inflation fell to 6. 7 in august, down from 6. 8 in july, which means overall prices are still rising , but the rate are still rising, but the rate of increase is falling. Well, of increase is falling. Well, joining us now is the economist juuan joining us now is the economist julian jessop, and julian , i julian jessop, and julian, i suppose, first of all, this was a bit of a surprise to economists that the bank of england chose not to raise rates to end that 14 rate rise streak i well, as you say, it was a surprise, but i think less of a surprise, but i think less of a surprise after those good inflation numbers. You mentioned inflation numbers. You mentioned the fall in the headline rate. The fall in the headline rate. If you look beyond the headlines and look at inflation, excluding food and energy, that fell a lot more sharply. Now, of course, im not saying that food and Energy Prices dont matter. I mean, theyre more important than income than most for low income households. But that is a better guide to the underlying trend. Guide to the underlying trend. And i think after those numbers, a thought a lot of economists thought maybe pause was on the cards. Maybe a pause was on the cards. Ive got say, though, its ive got to say, though, its come a moment too soon. I come not a moment too soon. I actually have paused on actually would have paused on interest time ago. Interest rates some time ago. And just had some and indeed, weve just had some some numbers out at 930, a very Important Survey of the of the british economy , which suggests british economy, which suggests that is now falling that output is now falling pretty sharply in the in the private sector. In september. So private sector. In september. So i its very important that i think its very important that the bank of england did put rates on hold to prevent us sliding into a deep and unnecessary recession over the next few quarters. I mean, julian, touching on that point, do you feel as though we did have a very, very quick succession , didnt we, of 14 succession, didnt we, of 14 increases in a row , do you feel increases in a row, do you feel as though the bank of england should have taken that time, perhaps paused a little bit earlier and allowed those increases to actually take hold. Well, these are always very difficult judgements and im not going to be overly critical of the bank of england, but i think it has got a number of things wrong. So first of all, we had a long period where Interest Rates were far too low and in particular england particular the bank of england continued print money, you continued to print money, you know, pumping money into the economy, the economy, which was the underlying pickup underlying cause of the pickup in inflation. So the bank left Interest Rates too low for too long. I didnt think it was too slow to raise them again. It should have responded more quickly to the signs that inflation was picking up. It tended to dismiss everything as transitory and but then again, more recently, we have seen signs of slowdown in the economy and the growth in the money and credit aggregates has dropped very sharply. Thats the best leading indicator for both of inflation. And whats happening inflation. And whats happening in the in the real economy. And i think the bank of england had missed that. Its had missed that. So its had a number of judgement calls to make think its tended to make and i think its tended to get wrong, probably get them wrong, but we probably ended up in the right place. I think Tatiana Sanchez<\/a>. Tatiana sanchez. Ellie, thank you very much and good morning. This is the latest from the newsroom. Ministers would be forced to consult the economic watchdog before implementing major budget changes. According to plans by the labour party, the shadow chancellor says it will ensure the mistakes of liz trusss so called mini budget are not repeated. Rachel reeves cited the higher cost of mortgages, energy bills and everyday food items. Among the consequences of items. Among the consequences of the former Prime Minister<\/a>s short lived economic reform. But minister for food , farming and minister for food, farming and fisheries, mark spencer , says fisheries, mark spencer, says the truss mini budget isnt to blame for soaring prices. I think global population is continuing to increase. On the back of that, weve got the challenges of Climate Change<\/a> and then if you throw into the mix a Global Pandemic<\/a> and a war in europe, thats whats really driven the price of energy and of food through the roof. We need to invest in our farmers, in our uk Food Producers<\/a> to make sure that they have the best technology, the best stock, the best techniques and of course, taxpayer support to continue to produce this great food. Great food. The chancellor says very difficult decisions will make tax cuts virtually impossible. Tax cuts virtually impossible. Some of jeremy hunts Party Colleagues<\/a> , including former colleagues, including former Prime Minister<\/a> liz truss , are Prime Minister<\/a> liz truss, are reportedly pushing for tax relief after better than expected economic news. Hunt says he wishes that there were an option, but the government must stick with its plan to bnng must stick with its plan to bring down inflation and Interest Rates<\/a>. And end the Interest Rates<\/a>. And end the staple foods such as rice, spaghetti, baked beans and teabags can cost more than three times their usual price if budget versions are not available. All Consumer Group<\/a> available. All Consumer Group<\/a> which found example aisles such as a large bag of asdas own brand rice is usually priced at around \u00a31. 80. But if no own brand was available , the bens brand was available, the bens original version could cost almost \u00a35. The cheaper options are often unavailable to shoppers who rely on local convenience shops , which is convenience shops, which is calling on supermarkets to ensure they stock their value ranges across all of their locations. For more on those locations. For more on those stories, you can visit our website, gbnews. Com. Now its back to tomanelli. Back to tomanelli. Good morning. The time is 933 and youre watching britains newsroom with me. And tom harwood. And before we get into todays program, we do want to ask you, are you still buying bovril . Because this is in the daily mail this morning. Its got us talking, hasnt it, steven and ann, a little bit earlier on, were talking about it as well. Apparently, were not anymore. Not buying bovril anymore. Not buying bovril. No, were not buying bovril. Were not buying corned beef. Condensed tinned condensed milk, spam or tinned peaches out of the shelves. Those into the shelves. Those go and into the shelves. Come quinoa , miso come matcha, tea, quinoa, miso paste seeds and balsamic vinegar. Are you guilty of that . Of are you guilty of that . Of that list . Ive got balsamic vinegar, but i dont stock my cupboards with seeds. So ill tell you who with seeds. So ill tell you who does. My mother. She has loads of shes a rabbit. Of seeds. Shes like a rabbit. Oh, in an affectionate way. Oh, in an affectionate way. I like rabbit. Yeah he does mean it. Oh, no. Im just sorry, but is that you at home . Is that what youre doing . Are you swapping out the classic items for perhaps a more modern twist . Yeah. Im the same as you. Got balsamic vinegar, you. Ive got balsamic vinegar, but milk, and but i love condensed milk, and i love peaches. Love tinned peaches. I have had miso paste in in the past. When im making something specific. But wont. Something specific. But i wont. I wont have sitting there. No, well there. no, no, no. Well do let us know if thats you. Vaiews gbnews. Com. But lets get our next story now. And get into our next story now. And the in the midst one the nhs is in the midst of one of most disruptive strikes of its most disruptive strikes yet with a joint strike with Junior Doctors<\/a> consultants. Junior doctors and consultants. The Health Service<\/a> is yes, the Health Service<\/a> is facing chartered facing unsure chartered territory, thousands of territory, with thousands of patients appointed appointments expected to be cancelled. Expected to be cancelled. Well, joining us in the studio now is Junior Doctor<\/a> bhasha mukherjee. Good morning bhasha mukherjee. Good morning to you. Very, very good to have you with us. So why have you personally decided to go on strike for the same reasons why all of the other Junior Doctors<\/a> who are striking are doing the same is to protect the nhs , essentially. And we care about the patients as much as the other person. And ultimately, this is about the future of the nhs and protecting the nhs , retaining protecting the nhs, retaining doctors. And thats the same reason that were all doing this strike. I suppose a lot of people would think its hard to square that circle of an idea of protecting the nhs when weve learned this morning that each striking doctor is costing \u00a33,000 for the nhs for these replacements to come in and try and provide a basic level of service, ultimately we have to see this, that we are the employees and ultimately the taxpayer is paying towards the government who are in charge of where the money is spent. And at the moment the nhs is struggling and that is because of losing doctors every year were losing thousands of doctors every year. The strike is just to say this is enough is enough. Were losing doctors. The doctors who are staying behind are inevitably having to work harder and harder to fill those spaces. And actually its those spaces. And actually its just a failing system. Were just a failing system. Were just trying to uphold. And ultimately, were all getting burnt out. Lots of doctors are considering leaving and going abroad to work abroad and this this will just carry on. If we dont stop it here. And make it make it a reason , viable reason make it a reason, viable reason for people to stay behind and actually work in the nhs. I mean the nhs, as we always say, is a system on its knees, isnt it . And when tom talks about \u00a33,000, a shift for a placement coven \u00a33,000, a shift for a placement cover, is it moral to charge that much for cover for a system thats already on its knees . Well , ultimately, thats already on its knees . Well, ultimately, think about it. This should have been dealt with last year. This time last with last year. This time last yean with last year. This time last year, weve been having this discussion for years now about making it fair, and weve spent almost a billion this year on on just, you know, filling the gaps in the rotas for these strikes where thats about how much it would to , be you know, to give would to, be you know, to give the Junior Doctors<\/a> the pay restoration essentially. So it restoration essentially. So it is actually the government that theyre making these choices. Theyre making these choices. And from just the conversation, you guys are having earlier, no ones what the mps ones happy with what the mps are doing and theyre not filling their roles properly. And you and ultimately, ali, if you think about the taxpayers and ultimately, ali, if you thirpayingt the taxpayers and ultimately, ali, if you thirpaying towards, axpayers and ultimately, ali, if you thirpaying towards, younyers and ultimately, ali, if you thirpaying towards, you know , are paying towards, you know, this lump sum and how much is being spent on mps \u00a386,000. Mp you know, that is down in real terms over the last ten years. Mps if their pay had kept up with inflation, would be over \u00a3100,000 a year. But because inflation has been so high over the last over the last year or so, mps pay in real terms has been cut compared to where it was a decade receiving a 5 increase. Well, weve been receiving a 2 increase year with the 2 increase every year with the 9 inflation, but then mps get covering costs for their staffing , their office supplies, staffing, their office supplies, their. Travel all staffing, their office supplies, their. Travel all and various other things. We dont get those looking at where an mp salary might be \u00a386,000 a year, which is around \u00a320,000 less than it would be if it had kept up with inflation. Looking at where consultants earn , thats much more than mps. Earn, thats much more than mps. Mps on 86 consultants could be on 120, 130, 140. Who would you trust with your life . Life . So i think thats thats a thats a very fair point. But isnt it the case that a lot of these people going on strike are incredibly well paid . Some of the best paid people in the country . Its not about the individual amount its amount theyre being paid. Its about making it fair for everyone and stopping them from leaving the workforce essentially , were getting paid essentially, were getting paid much less as compared to other parts of the world for the same job. And essentially. What is job. And essentially. What is stopping the doctors from just leaving and going to these other countries . Weve its called the mass doctors mass exodus of Junior Doctors<\/a> for reason , because thousands for a reason, because thousands of doctors are leaving the country. Why . Why would they stay . So we want to give them a reason to stay. This is why were striking. Thats were striking. Thats essentially it. Like your aim can do you feel like your aim can actually achieved, though, actually be achieved, though, when steve when you hear from steve barclay, the secretary barclay, the Health Secretary<\/a> his latest statement , he spoke his latest statement, he spoke about doctors getting about Junior Doctors<\/a> getting an average 10. 3, an average pay rise of 10. 3, an average pay rise of 10. 3, an average of 8. 8 at the lowest paid will get 10. 3, he said. Thats more than what most people in the uk are going to be receiving. If youre in the private sector, you might be lucky to get a 2 pay rise. What do you say to that . I would just say that its a case of, you know, meeting meets king. What were asking for , the king. What were asking for, the government hasnt even come forward to actually have a discussion with us and all these numbers are just flying around. But theres not been a formal discussion and a formal negotiation with everybody in the room to discuss how we can make the situation better. I suppose that that offer of over 10 for the lowest paid Junior Doctors<\/a> over 8 on average. Its a similar deal that was offered to nurses of course, who accepted that deal, who have ended their strikes and who have ended their strikes and who are getting on to work. Why is it different for doctors than it is for nurses . I cant say i it is for nurses . I cant say i cant speak for the nurses of course, but i know that its taken a lot for 70 of the Junior Doctors<\/a> in this country to strike for six months. And then , you know, weve and then, you know, weve balloted and chose to strike again and this shows that theres a solidarity amongst us. We all feel undervalued at work and i think we want to we have decided on that number together with the bma for a reason, and its reasonable because of the 26 overall pay regression that weve weve seen in the last ten years. And this is just to meet up to that ultimately , how up to that ultimately, how difficult of it was the decision for you personal, to go out on strike . I mean, you took a hippocratic hippocratic oath, didnt you . You didnt . No, we dont have to do that. No, we dont have to do that. You dont need to do that anymore. But you you ultimately care about Patient Safety<\/a> and you about people. Thats, you care about people. Thats, of why you decided to of course, why you decided to become a doctor. So it must have been a very difficult decision to out. To decide to walk out. I care about my patients whilst care. Whilst theyre under my care. Ultimately , im an employee ultimately, im an employee and the nhs is an organisation. And the nhs is an organisation. Thats run by the government. They are in charge of the nhs. We are just employees. They are in charge of the nhs. We are just employees. We work we are just employees. We work for the hours that we work and we are responsible for our patients until theyre under our control. This is this control. Obviously this is this isnt just a case of, you know , isnt just a case of, you know, i cant be sitting here responsible for every patient everywhere at all times. And the everywhere at all times. And the strike motions there, you know, it is within our rights to for strike essentially, you know, were not happy with the conditions that were working unden okay. Bashir mukerjee, really good to see you this morning. Thank you so much for your company. Well, do let us know company. Well, do let us know what you make of that strike action this week by Junior Doctors<\/a> and consultants. Yes, doctors and consultants. Yes, there is going to be disruption. Do let us know if that affects you. What side of this do you fall on . Vaiews gbnews. Com. Well, suppose, crucially, well, i suppose, crucially, should doctors and should Junior Doctors<\/a> and consultants doing this consultants be doing this at precisely the same time causing the amount disruption . In other news, of course, but in other news, of course, the bank of england has raised their rates 14 times in a row up until this week. Their battle to until this week. Their battle to control inflation has been placed on pause , perhaps with placed on pause, perhaps with this hold on increases yes, the rate of inflation fell to 6. 7 in august, down from 6. 8 in july, which means overall prices are still rising , but the rate are still rising, but the rate of increase is falling. Well, of increase is falling. Well, joining us now is the economist juuan joining us now is the economist julian jessop, and julian , i julian jessop, and julian, i suppose, first of all, this was a bit of a surprise to economists that the bank of england chose not to raise rates to end that 14 rate rise streak i well, as you say, it was a surprise, but i think less of a surprise, but i think less of a surprise after those good inflation numbers. You mentioned inflation numbers. You mentioned the fall in the headline rate. The fall in the headline rate. If you look beyond the headlines and look at inflation, excluding food and energy, that fell a lot more sharply. Now, of course, im not saying that food and Energy Prices<\/a> dont matter. I mean, theyre more important than income than most for low income households. But that is a better guide to the underlying trend. Guide to the underlying trend. And i think after those numbers, a thought a lot of economists thought maybe pause was on the cards. Maybe a pause was on the cards. Ive got say, though, its ive got to say, though, its come a moment too soon. I come not a moment too soon. I actually have paused on actually would have paused on interest time ago. Interest rates some time ago. And just had some and indeed, weve just had some some numbers out at 930, a very Important Survey<\/a> of the of the british economy , which suggests british economy, which suggests that is now falling that output is now falling pretty sharply in the in the private sector. In september. So private sector. In september. So i its very important that i think its very important that the bank of england did put rates on hold to prevent us sliding into a deep and unnecessary recession over the next few quarters. I mean, julian, touching on that point, do you feel as though we did have a very, very quick succession , didnt we, of 14 succession, didnt we, of 14 increases in a row , do you feel increases in a row, do you feel as though the bank of england should have taken that time, perhaps paused a little bit earlier and allowed those increases to actually take hold. Well, these are always very difficult judgements and im not going to be overly critical of the bank of england, but i think it has got a number of things wrong. So first of all, we had a long period where Interest Rates<\/a> were far too low and in particular england particular the bank of england continued print money, you continued to print money, you know, pumping money into the economy, the economy, which was the underlying pickup underlying cause of the pickup in inflation. So the bank left Interest Rates<\/a> too low for too long. I didnt think it was too slow to raise them again. It should have responded more quickly to the signs that inflation was picking up. It tended to dismiss everything as transitory and but then again, more recently, we have seen signs of slowdown in the economy and the growth in the money and credit aggregates has dropped very sharply. Thats the best leading indicator for both of inflation. And whats happening inflation. And whats happening in the in the real economy. And i think the bank of england had missed that. Its had missed that. So its had a number of judgement calls to make think its tended to make and i think its tended to get wrong, probably get them wrong, but we probably ended up in the right place. I think Interest Rates<\/a> are now at a suitable and sustainable a more suitable and sustainable level. Think inflation will level. I think inflation will continue to fall more sharply than people expect over the than most people expect over the next or so. So i think the next year or so. So i think the bank of england can probably now sit which is sit on its hands, which is probably no bad thing. So potentially the bank of england late to kick in with england too late to kick in with these Interest Rates<\/a> and maybe too to stop rising them. Too late to stop rising them. But weve ended up maybe muddling through two about muddling through two to about the historical average where we are now. But looking forward, are now. But looking forward, when would you expect or would you expect a tool , all these you expect a tool, all these rates come down in the coming rates to come down in the coming years . Years . Well, first of all, its worth remembering that what matters for most people is not where the Interest Rate<\/a> is now, but where its expected to be. So theres a relatively small number of people whose mortgages are directly linked to the current bank of england base rate. Most people it depends on where Interest Rates<\/a> are expected to be in, say, 2 or 5 years time. And those Interest Rates<\/a> have actually started to fall over the last few weeks. So Mortgage Rates<\/a> actually Mortgage Rates<\/a> have actually fallen last couple of fallen in the last couple of weeks despite you know, worries about what of england about what the bank of england might might done might have done, might have done yesterday the thing is yesterday. So the key thing is not much what the bank of not so much what the bank of england does, but what market experts stations next experts stations for the next few are. And i think over few years are. And i think over over the coming we will over the coming months, we will get evidence that inflation get more evidence that inflation is sharply. And maybe is falling sharply. And maybe also, unfortunately, some concerns about the economy concerns about the real economy as so rising unemployment as well. So rising unemployment in particular and weakening business activity. So i think market Interest Rates<\/a> , the ones market Interest Rates<\/a>, the ones that really matter, will fall further over the remainder of the year. And that will take at least some of the pressure off households. But i dont want to sound too optimistic here. I think the economy as a whole will do but theres to will do okay, but theres to going be a significant minority of households who are going to be dealing with much higher mortgages winter, maybe mortgages over the winter, maybe also Higher Energy<\/a> bills. So looking at the averages can looking just at the averages can be misleading. There are a lot of people are still going to of people who are still going to face difficult period, face a very difficult period, even economy as a whole even if the economy as a whole avoids outright recession. Avoids an outright recession. Julian, i did want to ask you, as a as a key adviser to liz truss, one year on now liz truss, were one year on now from trussonomics what your from trussonomics. What are your reflections now on the time compared to what we knew then and what we know now . And what we know now . Well , a mix and what we know now . Well, a mix of emotions in sorrow, anger , regret, lots of sorrow, anger, regret, lots of things. I still think that she got most of the big calls right, and in particular, the importance of supporting economic growth, which i think is now widely recognised. Even is now widely recognised. Even the labour party is putting, you know, strong growth at the centre of its manifesto pledges. So i think she got that right. I think she was right. On the importance of improving what we call the supply side of the economy. Wasnt just about economy. That wasnt just about tax was also about tax cuts, that was also about tackling problems planning tackling problems like planning reform to make it easier to build houses and other vital infrastructure. There were infrastructure. There were undoubtedly big mistakes made in communication and timing, so underestimating the hostility of much of the establishment and much of the establishment and much of the much of the media as well , the mainstream media, to well, the mainstream media, to what she was trying to do. But if we look at where we are now, i think in many ways shes been vindicated. After all, Interest Rates<\/a>, borrowing costs are now higher than in the wake of the of the mini budget so, you know, even with a grown ups in charge, the fundamentals of the economy havent changed that much. And havent changed that much. And as i say, theres a growing recognition that she was right and other things. Interesting to see what weve seen recently, the announcements on on net zero from from rishi sunak is something herself was something that she herself was talking at the talking about right at the beginning the week. So beginning of the week. So a frustrating experience, but i think important to take think its important to take some positives away. In some of the positives away. In many big calls, she was many of the big calls, she was actually right. Its fascinating. Really to look at labour party is look at how the labour party is approaching tax and now, approaching tax and spend now, saying they wouldnt saying that they wouldnt necessarily in necessarily raise taxes in the round would growth round and would go for growth instead fund all of their instead to fund all of their pledges. Many ways labour pledges. In many ways the labour party with plans on party with their plans on planning reform and all the rest of more trusson than of it, sound more trusson than perhaps the conservative party do. But. But what sir keir starmer and Rachel Reeves<\/a>, the shadow chancellor are saying today is that they would do one thing very differently thing very, very differently from liz truss and thats strengthen the role of the Office Budget<\/a> Response Office<\/a> for budget response ability. Thats their big announcement this morning. What do make of it . Do you make of it . Well , i do you make of it . Well, i think a lot of that was just what i call motherhood and apple pie. I think, you know, anybody whos hoping to be the next chancellor is going to make these sort of standard statements about fiscal discipline also listening discipline and also listening seriously to the for Office Budget<\/a> responsibility. But we know that when push comes to shove and there is a crisis, then the obr forecasts tend to get ignored and the fiscal rules are either broken or fudged. So i think this sort of thing that you expect to a government in waiting to say , but whether or waiting to say, but whether or not any of this really stands up in the face of reality, i dont know. As for the credibility of know. As for the credibility of the obr, i mean , i think to be the obr, i mean, i think to be honest, they do as good a job as you can. The problem is not so much the quality of the forecasts, but how much weight people place on them. They think they play actually too big a role in policy making. I mean, certainly suits the treasury because they can always point to obr excuse not obr forecasts as an excuse not to or raise spending. To cut taxes or raise spending. But i think we just give what they say too much weight. Its treated as gospel and i think thats often a big mistake. Yeah, i suppose its really hard to be a economic confucius to be someone sort of all knowing, all seeing. You can never quite get there. But juuan you never quite get there. But julian you much julian jessop, thank you so much for us through those for talking us through those big, issues this morning. Big, big issues this morning. Interesting to yeah, really interesting to hear reflections on hear his reflections on trussonomics well. So do let trussonomics as well. So do let us know what you make of that. Vaiews gbnews. Uk we vaiews gbnews. Uk com. Now we talk gb talk a lot about cash at gb news, we . Have our news, dont we . We have our campaign dont kill cash, which i believe you still can sign online. So you like this i believe you still can sign onlirreport ou like this i believe you still can sign onlirreport because like this i believe you still can sign onlirreport because alike this i believe you still can sign onlirreport because a landlord next report because a landlord in essex says that after three decades of only accepting cash, he is determined to carry on. Thats despite the surging increase in card payments as the cost of living crisis continues, more people are paying with cash as a way of budgeting. But can a pub in an increasingly difficult industry really continue to trade as a cash only business . S our reporter lisa hartle has more. For 37 years, doug has owned and run the chequers pub in essex. Its a very traditional place and there is one constant hes kept in place. Whilst many businesses are now accepting card only payments , doug is cash card only payments, doug is cash only. It saves money doing cards. They charge a fortune, but also with cash. I know exactly where i stand and if you serve somebody in their in their cards decline, what happens . And theyve got no cash. You lose out. So whats the reaction when people come in here and they see that you dont take card , they that you dont take card, they just asked where the nearest cash point is. And jenny only they come back. Some dont, but thats alright. Theyll go down the road, theyll pay more. Their choice. A lot more people are carrying cash because they know what theyre spending and with cards they dont know what theyre spending, especially when theyre tapping their phones and tap ing the card and tapping this and tapping that. And they havent got clue. And they havent got a clue. Earlier month, research earlier this month, research by finance found that as cost by uk finance found that as cost of living concerns grow, the number of payments being made with rose for the first with cash rose for the first time in a decade , weve seen time in a decade, weve seen a very long trend of reducing Cash Payments<\/a> year year. Payments year on year. But last year we did see a small increase in the number of payments made. And as i say, we think thats mainly due to think that thats mainly due to some finding helpful some people finding cash helpful to manage a limited to them to manage a limited budget cost living budget when the cost of living is it still is is increasing. But it still is the second most frequently used Payment Method<\/a> the uk and Payment Method<\/a> in the uk and indeed rate at which it indeed the rate at which it declines is actually falling. So cash is becoming concentrated amongst those people who prefer to it. And those use to use it. And for those use cases where arent so many cases where there arent so many alternatives. Do alternatives. And so we do absolutely expect cash to remain an important part of the economy in the future. And the challenge for industry sure for the industry is making sure that still provide access that we can still provide access to to those people who to cash to those people who prefer it , despite prefer to use it, despite cash usage , its still usage increasing, its still card payments that leading card payments that are leading the way. Card payments that are leading the damians been customer damians been a customer of the many years. The pub for many years. I just bring cash. Ive usually got cash on me anyway, to be so one of those its to be fair. So one of those its nice Old School Pub<\/a> im only young thugs old school so. Young thugs old school so. So will doug ever relent and welcome a card reader alongside his till . I cant say never , but. His till . I cant say never , but. Ill i cant say never, but. Ill hold out as long as i can. Lisa hartle gb news. Essex lisa hartle gb news. Essex thanks to lisa for that report. Now stick with us report. Now stick with us because well be visiting keir starmer and Emmanuel Macron<\/a> next. A brighter outlook with boxt solar. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Hi there. Its Aidan Mcgivern<\/a> here from the met office with the gb news forecast. Its a fresh start out there, but a bright start for many of us. Further showers, however, are around and theyll develop widely through the day. Initially the showers focussed for northern, central and western scotland , northern western scotland, northern ireland, western england and wales. The best of the sunshine wales. The best of the sunshine will be across the midlands, Eastern England<\/a>, eastern scotland. The cloud scotland. But the cloud will build the the build through the day. The showers will transfer east so that the afternoon it is that by the afternoon it is drying across drying up somewhat across northern west wales, northern ireland. West wales, devon and cornwall. But the showers are transferring east odd rumble of thunder possible in Eastern England<\/a> by the end of the a cool feel a the day. A cool feel with a windier day expected compared with yesterday. Its going with yesterday. And its going to be well slightly below average as far as temperatures are concerned, but nothing untoward. Then. Into the untoward. Then. Into the evening, showers tending to become restricted to coasts for a time before eventually easing away completely widely clear skies , lighter winds. And as skies, lighter winds. And as a result, all the ingredients there for a cool start to saturday. Widely mid to high single figures. But in some sheltered parts mid wales northwards a touch of frost is possible. Still a brisk wind as we start off saturday in the far north of scotland, caithness, sutherland, shetland and orkney seeing shower elsewhere seeing the odd shower elsewhere across its a beautiful across the uk. Its a beautiful start to the weekend. Plenty of blue skies build into blue skies cloud will build into the but it stays dry the afternoon, but it stays dry for the vast majority. It will feel cool, but. But given the feel cool, but. But given the dry and fine weather, a perfectly pleasant day is expected. A brighter good morning. Its 10 00 good morning. Its10 00 on friday, the 22nd of september. This is britains newsroom on gb news. With me, Ellie Costello<\/a> and tom harwood coming up for you today. Vive le ra. The king starts his last day in france visiting communities affected by last years wildfires. Hell also be tasting the finest bordeaux has to offer at a local vineyard. To offer at a local vineyard. Very jealous. Sukur starmer says he doesnt want to divert from eu rules. Should he become pm. But what does this mean and doesit pm. But what does this mean and does it mean we could be dragged kicking and screaming back into the eu . The eu . Its time to get back to the office, even for whitehall, Civil Servants<\/a> are complaining about being dragged back into the workplace. Is there an the workplace. Is there an argument for them staying home or should they get back on the morning commute. Morning commute. And this show is nothing without you. We love to hear from you. Do let us know what from you. Do let us know what you think of sir Keir Starmers<\/a> comments about the eu. And were also talking about bovril. Apparently were not buying it anymore. Buying anymore. Were buying things like balsamic vinegar, matcha seeds. Were not buying condensed milk either, which tinned peaches love cooking with a condensed milk , toffee stuff and condensed milk, toffee stuff and all that. Yeah i havent done it for years, though. Maybe. Maybe its all my fault. Okay, deal. Well, do let us know if that includes you. Vaiews gbnews. Com, but first, lets news bulletin lets get a news bulletin with Tatiana Sanchez<\/a>. Tatiana sanchez. Ellie, thank you very much. And good morning. 10 01. This is the latest. Ministers would be forced to consult the economic watchdog before implementing major budget changes. According to plans by the labour party, the shadow chancellor says it will ensure the mistakes of liz trusss so called mini budget are not repeated. Rachel reeves cited the higher cost of mortgages , energy bills and mortgages, energy bills and everyday food items. Among the consequences of the former Prime Minister<\/a>s short lived economic reform. But the minister for food, farming and fisheries , food, farming and fisheries, mark spencer, says the mini budget isnt to blame for soaring prices. Soaring prices. I think global population is continuing to increase piece on the back of that weve got the challenge of Climate Change<\/a> and then if you throw into the mix a Global Pandemic<\/a> and a war in europe, thats whats really dnven europe, thats whats really driven the price of energy and of food through the roof. We need to invest in our farmers in our uk Food Producers<\/a> to make sure that they have the best technology, the best stock, the best techniques and of course, taxpayer support to continue to produce this great food. Produce this great food. Labour insists its been clear about the partys red lines when it comes to britains relationship with the European Union<\/a>. Speaking in canada , sir union. Speaking in canada, sir keir starmer said he didnt want to diverge from eu rules and argued that the uk and brussels should share a future together. Should share a future together. Shadow financial secretary james murray told gb news the labour leader was referring only to certain eu rules. I think what keir was talking about was about the fact that we have no interest in watering down a uk standards when it comes to things like Consumer Protection<\/a> , workers rights, food protection, workers rights, food standards and so on. Know thats what he was talking about and he was talking about that very clearly in the context of our red lines when it comes to our relationship with the eu , you relationship with the eu, you know, and those red lines are around, you know, not rejoining the Single Market<\/a> or the Customs Union<\/a> and not bringing back freedom movement, you know , freedom of movement, you know, we have red lines, but we have those red lines, but within those red lines, were clear that we do need an improved trading relationship with the and thats what we with the eu. And thats what we would to secure. Would seek to secure. The chancellor says very difficult will make difficult decisions will make tax cuts virtually impossible. Some of jeremy hunts Party Colleagues<\/a>, including former Prime Minister<\/a> liz truss, are reportedly pushing for tax relief after better than expected economic news. Hunt says he wishes that there were an option, but the government must stick with its plan to bnng must stick with its plan to bring down inflation and interest. Staple foods Interest Rates<\/a>. Staple foods such as rice, spaghetti, baked beans and tea bags can cost more than three times their usual price. If budget versions are not available. Consumer group which. Found examples such as a large bag of asdas own brand rice, which is usually priced at about \u00a31. 80. But if no own brand was available, the bens original version could cost almost \u00a35. The cheaper options are often unavailable to shoppers who rely on local convenience shops, which is calling on supermarket skits to ensure they stock their value ranges across all of their locations. As the return of locations. As the return of summer weather last month helped retail sales recover, though there was a drop in the demand for fuel. Figures from the office for National Statistics<\/a> show retail sales grew by nought point 4. It said stronger interest in clothes shopping drove the increase, but fuel sales were 1. 2 lower due to rising global prices. It comes after julys wet weather was blamed for people skipping their summer wardrobe shopping. Now, summer wardrobe shopping. Now, an eight Year Old Girl<\/a> has become the first child in the uk to receive a special type of kidney transplant without needing to take long term drugs. Aditi shankars immune system was reprogrammed after a stem cell transplant. That meant her cell transplant. That meant her body accepted a donor kidney as its own. Professor Stephen Marks<\/a> its own. Professor Stephen Marks<\/a> is a childrens kidney specialist at great ormond street hospital. He says a rare underlying condition complicated the procedure because cause of her underlying immune condition. It meant that she would not be able to receive a kidney transplant. Her immune transplant. Her immune deficiency had to be in corrected by having mums bone marrow first. And because , as marrow first. And because, as adt was able to engraft and accept her mums bone marrow, that therefore meant that her body could then see her mums kidney when it was transplant as being part of. Kidney when it was transplant as being part of. Her and its the final day of the king and queens state visit to france today. Yesterday they spent the afternoon visiting a flower market before heading to notre dame cathedral. Today theyll meet Business Owners<\/a> in bordeaux before touring a vineyard in the heart of frances wine country. Theyll also join a reception on a Royal Navy Frigate<\/a> and ride a tram to the citys main square. This is the citys main square. This is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio<\/a>, and on your Smart Speaker<\/a>. By simply saying play gb news. Now its back to ellie and. Tom back to ellie and. Tom very good morning and welcome back to britains newsroom here on gb news. And before we get to our next big story, we do want to take a moment to look at some of your views, particularly on one story that caught ellies eye this morning. Yeah, i cant get enough of it this morning. Bovril apparently, it apparently, were not buying it anymore. Weve gone posh all these staple items, which are very actually. Corned very british, actually. Corned beef and bovril. We dont beef spam and bovril. We dont buy them anymore. Apparently. We buy them anymore. Apparently. We buy things like balsamic vinegar miso paste and matcha tea, and a lot have been getting in lot of you have been getting in touch regard to this. Touch with regard to this. Has written in to say, tommy has written in to say, i have my bovril. Bovril on i must have my bovril. Bovril on toast is better than marmite. However, alan alan wrote in to say, we switched from bovril to marmite at the start of the bse crisis. Never switched back in the 80s. Yeah, back in the 80s. And. And kelly has written in saying both my children and i have bovril on toast nearly every morning. Not as cheap as it used to be. Yeah. No, thats what kelly is saying. Not as cheap as it used to be, but still a staple in her house. And robert has written in because its not just bovril, of course, tinned peaches is another one. And robert has written in to say, can a cheap tin for say, you can get a cheap tin for about \u00a30. 35 in aldi. The kids have them for breakfast with pancakes. I have to say other shops available to say, shops are available to say, thank you, thomas, but. But robert has never bought bovril. He sounds horrible. He says it sounds horrible. Agree with you well, i would agree with you on that, robert, but i dont like the idea that all these british staples people arent supporting anymore. Supporting them anymore. Im glad are. Now, glad that lots of you are. Now, i buy tim peaches i actually do buy tim peaches because make a peach because i like to make a peach crumble. I do like to bake. And you as well, it seems. You do as well, it seems. Well, i do. When i get the time. When i get the time. Although written although tommys written in to say, addition to buying say, in addition to buying bovril, i like grape nuts. And theyre find. Theyre becoming hard to find. Grape nuts, grape nuts. Grape nuts. Grape nuts. I dont know what a grape nuts is. Have no idea. Well, let me i have no idea. Well, let me know. Yeah do let us know. Keep your coming in on keep your views coming in on that any the stories that that or any of the stories that were about today. Vaiews gbnews. Com but elsewhere, and but elsewhere, the king and queen. Its last day in queen. Its their last day in france, with to france, beginning with a trip to bordeaux, where theyre expected to communities to meet with communities affected by last years wildfires as well. Theyre also going to enjoy some a some wine tasting at a sustainable im very sustainable vineyard. Im very jealous. Bordeaux is home to almost and is almost 40,000 britons and is frequently compared to bristol. Frequently compared to bristol. Bristol bordeaux, i suppose. Isupposeit bristol bordeaux, i suppose. I suppose it was once british or english. I should say, perhaps, wasnt it . Thats a very good point. Yes. Well, lets cross to our royal correspondent, cameron walker, in bordeaux walker, who is live in bordeaux this cameron, whats this morning. Cameron, whats going on . Good morning, tom. Well, the crowds have just started to be let forward to my position here outside of bordeaux town hall. Of course, six months ago, the building behind me was engulfed in flames dunng behind me was engulfed in flames during the riots sparked by those french Pension Reforms<\/a> which made the state visit of his majesty the king and Queen Camilla<\/a> be postponed. And to this point and since then, security has been incredibly tight over the last few days, i have never seen anything like it. Journalists whove been covering the royal beats for a lot longer than i have have been saying they havent seen anything like it either. The french government is not taking any when it comes to any chances when it comes to security sure that security and making sure that everything hitch. Everything goes without a hitch. And fair, paris over and to be fair, in paris over the last few days, it really has gone smoothly. Wherever gone pretty smoothly. Wherever king charles has gone, hes been warmly welcomed by the french people. French senators and indeed the french president and first lady of france. As well. You only have to look at the standing ovation that the king got following his Senate Speech<\/a> last and he had to last yesterday. And he had to stand up for an extra minute and a half until the clapping concluded. So i think that just concluded. So i think that just gives you a sense of how well hes been received here in france. But he is in bordeaux today alongside the queen, as you said, 39,000 or so british expats live in this town. It is the largest number of expats in france since hundreds and hundreds of years ago. It used to be english, tom, as well. But the king and queen will be visiting a british run sustainable organic vineyards later on today. They use solar later on today. They use solar energy and also develop Carbon Capture<\/a> technology as well. So no doubt the king is going to be enjoying that. Hes also going to be looking at some of the devastation caused by last years wildfires in the region and, of course, Climate Change<\/a>. A close to the a topic really close to the kings something he kings heart, something he mentioned in speech at mentioned both in his speech at the yesterday and in his the senate yesterday and in his toast speech at the palace of versailles on the first day of the states visit as well. But another thing he mentioned in his speech yesterday was the unprovoked aggression , quote, unprovoked aggression, quote, caused russia with the caused by russia with the invasion of ukraine. And there is a military theme here in bordeaux later on today as well. There going to a reception there is going to be a reception on a british frigate, and on board a british frigate, and its highlighting the links, the close links between british and french armed forces. Of course, both members of nato. So a show of strength, no doubt, perhaps plans by the Foreign Office<\/a>, the whole point of a state visit is to strengthen ties between two countries on advice of the Foreign Office<\/a>. And a Foreign Office<\/a>. And a spokesperson told me there theyre really hoping that it is going ties and going to strengthen ties and perhaps things such as post post brexit trade negotiations, perhaps will have a bit of a boost post visits. But the first stop is the town hall behind me. As i said, crowds are starting to gather and the king and queen are expected to have a warm welcome here by the citys mayor oh, its a packed schedule. Cameron and let me just tell you, it is so good to see you without umbrella to without an umbrella and to actually your face actually see your lovely face because been an because youve been under an umbrella whole way round. Umbrella the whole way round. France, havent you . And in france, havent you . And even in new little bit earlier new york a little bit earlier on, raining on you, it on, its been raining on you, it seems, past week or so. Seems, for the past week or so. How do you feel the king and queen are feeling with their reception it reception in france . Because it really warm, hasnt really has been so warm, hasnt it . It does seem though the it . It does seem as though the king queen have really quite king and queen have really quite enjoyed this trip i yeah. From my understanding, the king has really enjoyed this trip in particular, if you look at the engagements hes been doing, it seems to be topics he has a genuine passion for. Even at the notre dame yesterday, of course, a kind of gutted by that fire that happened in in 2019. The king was looking at traditional stone masons work to reconstruct the gargoyles which were destroyed during the fire, something that he really champions. Traditional stonemasonry and Traditional Craft<\/a> skills. Likewise, the queen, Queen Camilla<\/a>, she launched alongside the france, the french first lady, a france uk literary prize on the first day of the state visit. Or no, it was yesterday actually, because she has a huge passion for literacy. So these engagements have been designed not only to improve ties between the countries, but also the two countries, but also playing of king playing to the strengths of king charles and Queen Camilla<\/a>, perhaps getting the best of perhaps getting the best out of them, monarchys power them, and the monarchys power of the foreign of soft diplomacy. The Foreign Office<\/a> the French Office<\/a> hopes and the french governments hopes will go a long way terms of improving long way in terms of improving relations brexit world. Well, merci, cameron. Well, merci, cameron. Well, merci, cameron. Well, merci, cameron. We will see you, no doubt a little bit later. And i hope youve been practising your french as the king seems to have been doing as well. Its been very impressive. I think i have been i have been quite impressed by the king and queen week almost half queen this week gave almost half his in french. Did his speech in french. He did half yeah. Very diplomatic. Well, lets get some more on this now with the paris based journalist chazan. Good journalist david chazan. Good morning, suppose , first morning, david. I suppose, first of this matter . What of all, does this matter . What is the what is the implication of the king having a relatively well received visit , state visit well received visit, state visit to france . To france . Well, i think its hugely significant because its been a tremendously successful soft power exercise. So far. You were mentioning that the king demonstrated that he has a serviceable command of french that went down extremely well. And i think the public reaction in france has been extremely favourable because obviously the french guillotined their own royals a few centuries ago , but royals a few centuries ago, but nevertheless, the British Royal<\/a> family has a very large number of admirers and fans in france for example, french news channels followed the news of the queens death and her funeral in almost as much detail as the british ones did. And the British Royal<\/a> family very often features on the cover of paris match and the other french glossy magazines. So people are glossy magazines. So people are very interested. And its also important because it comes after after that significant downturn in france , british relations, in france, british relations, when Boris Johnson<\/a> was Prime Minister<\/a> where there was all the bickering over fishing quotas , bickering over fishing quotas, sausages, the. Northern ireland sausages, the. Northern ireland protocol. And so although things have improved with rishi sunak in downing street, nevertheless , i think King Charless<\/a> visit to france will help consolidate and build on that. So, yes, it is pretty significant. Is pretty significant. Yes, significant, david. And as you say, a successful soft power exercise. I mean, have you been surprised by the warmth of the french towards king charles and Queen Camilla<\/a> . Because its been quite astounding watching it here from britain and the crowds that have turned out in the rain in paris. Now in bordeaux, we saw them just behind our royal correspondent there, cameron walker. I mean, people fascinated. People are truly fascinated. They want to meet and chat with the king well, it is surprising thing when you see it from the british side of the channel. But i think living in france, you do realise how popular the royal family are in france. And i think its in france. And i think its partly obe. Theres a strong element of celebrity. The British Royal<\/a>s are seen as sort of International Super<\/a> celebs. If you like, but also they provide a sense of continuity, which obviously is true for many people in britain, but also rather surprisingly , i think for rather surprisingly, i think for britons. The french seem to britons. The french seem to share that we live in a world thats changing very quickly. So its reassuring to see the embodiment of an institution that has remained constant. Embodiment of an institution that has remained constant. And that has remained constant. And i think people some people are simply curious. But the British Royal<\/a>s do have a huge fan base in france. In france. It is fascinating for a country that sort of founds its National Character<\/a> on getting rid of the monarchy. I suppose they do reflect it so much in their in their own president , who of course, lives in a palace and has all sorts of regalia and not quite a coronation, but an inauguration that is very similar to a coronation in many ways. Well, thank you so much for talking us through those those issues there. David really good to speak to you. Yeah really, really good and fascinating, actually, to understand that because i hadnt previously that french previously that the french actually obsess with the celebrity of the british macrons statement when the queen passed away, she said he said in a really, really moving way to you , she was your queen way to you, she was your queen to us. She was the queen and he said it in english as well, which he rarely does. Which he rarely does. Yeah. Was quite nice. There seems to be that respect for the British Royal<\/a> family, which is actually let actually very nice to see. 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The peoples channel, britains news. Channel a very good morning to you. Its 1024 and youre with britains newsroom on gb news with me tom harwood and Ellie Costello<\/a>. It was just coming up to 24, which is speaking very slowly just so we could get exactly the time. Hes going to get to 24. Now lets talk about keir starmer, shall we, because very interesting comments from him. He says he doesnt want to diverge from eu rules should he become pm . Diverge from eu rules should he becyes. Pm . Diverge from eu rules should he becyes. Speaking at a conference yes. Speaking at a conference in montreal, of all places , sir in montreal, of all places, sir keir starmer appeared convinced that for a stronger britain, both the eu and the uk need to work on common goals such as Climate Change<\/a> and immigration. But crucially , he spoke about but crucially, he spoke about regulatory alignment. Lets hear what he had say. What he had to say. Most of the conflict with the uk being outside of the uk anses uk being outside of the uk arises insofar as the uk wants to diverge and do Different Things<\/a> to the rest of our eu partners. Obviously the more we partners. Obviously the more we share values , the more we share share values, the more we share a future together, the less the conflict and actually different ways of solving problems are become available. Become available. Well, lets speak now to professor anand menon, the director of uk in a changing europe. Very good to see you europe. Very good to see you this morning. And very interesting comments from sir keir starmer , distance really keir starmer, distance really from his usual cautious approach was a very candid comment from him. What did you make of it . Him. What did you make of it . How significant is it . Its significant in the sense that i think it shows a newfound confidence on the part of the labour party that theyre talking about brexit in these terms at all marks a massive change from only a few months ago where caution was is the name of the game. And i think thats partly because the labour leadership dont really think that the conservatives can weaponize brexit against them in the way that might have been the case a couple of years ago. Case a couple of years ago. I suppose if were looking at surface level Public Opinion<\/a> that might be the case. But if we look at the policy rather than the politics of it , does it than the politics of it, does it make much sense to have the undoubted friction in that we do now with the European Union<\/a> if were only going to use the benefits for that . It looks as benefits for that . It looks as though we may have lost an argument, might have lost, we might have lost the sound. There i wonder if because what i was going to ask him if were going to ask him is if were going to ask him is if were going leave the european going to leave the European Union<\/a> create all the union and create all of the disruption in that, leaving no doubt does. Thats one side of the ledger. And thats what the media loves to focus on, which is the problems with leaving. Of course, the other side the course, the other side of the ledger is benefits you ledger is the benefits that you get you can get from leaving. What you can change country change about your country because left. And i because youve left. And i believe weve got you back. I suppose the question is, if we throw away all of the potential benefits of doing things differently , people might ask differently, people might ask the question, whats the point in leaving at all . Well, yes, there are some people who might say that. I mean, id say two things to that. Firstly its not as if weve diverged massively up to now. So its not as if weve sort of grasped those benefits to date. In fact, the impression weve had is that government has struggled to find areas where divergence might work. But secondly, yes , there are some secondly, yes, there are some brexiteers for whom divergence was the name of the game and for them i think theyll be wondering whats the point . Isnt isnt being out while not diverging the worst of all worlds because were still doing the things as them, but the same things as them, but without economic without some of the economic benefits inside the benefits of being inside the single so yeah, mean Single Market<\/a>. So yeah, i mean there can i can i jump in there are can i can ijump in real questions because one of the things the the one of the things that the labour party seems to want to do is have sort of food standards is have a sort of food standards agreement with eu. Is have a sort of food standards angm ent with eu. Is have a sort of food standards angm sorry, th eu. Is have a sort of food standards angm sorry, where eu. Is have a sort of food standards angm sorry, where the eu im sorry, where the eu doesnt diverge from the uk or the uk doesnt diverge from the eu on food standards, and that sort thing. But the uk has sort of thing. But the uk has already passed the Genetic Technology<\/a> oh, i believe we technology act. Oh, i believe we might have. We might have communications problems. Thats thats shame because thats a real shame because there some specific there are some specific instances where the United Kingdom<\/a> has passed legislation that has diverged from the eu. One of the big things is around sort of food technology, Genetic Technology<\/a>, the stuff that the eus cautious and is eus really cautious of and is actually sort of very, very sort of dirigiste stopping analysis and Scientific Research<\/a> and all that sort of stuff. And the uk has passed some really quite profound reforms that can make us a world leader here. Well, we are the forefront really, arent we, of science and tech . But, but if we go back to those eu rules, wed have to repeal those acts that allow gene the rest of gene editing and all the rest of it wed that, that, it and wed lose that, that, that that benefit. It that edge, that benefit. It seems that there are some real benefits that the United Kingdom<\/a> has started, started eke has just started, started to eke out that wed step away from. Yeah. And im sure thats how many people at home feel that were just starting to feel the benefits. As you and, and benefits. As you say. And, and we that time. Mel from we need that time. Mel from sunderland touch sunderland has been in touch saying and ellie starmer saying tom and ellie starmer says he wants to renegotiate the brexit and strengthen Brexit Agreement<\/a> and strengthen ties while labour ties with the eu, while labour state they have red lines which are no freedom of movement and no rejoining the Single Market<\/a> or Customs Union<\/a>. So is this or the Customs Union<\/a>. So is this all about getting a better brexit deal and what is left for starmer to negotiate with . Really good questions. Really good questions. I suppose the interesting thing is that the deal that we negotiated with the eu is up for review in 2025. Thats thats part of the deal that david frost originally negotiated. Now the government says that this review is just sort of a technical review over sort of sort of how its working rather than changing it fundamentally. But theres a lot of reporting now that the labour party would use 2025 actually use that 2025 date to actually deliver renegotiation , maybe deliver a renegotiation, maybe enter back into the Single Market<\/a>, taking on being a rule taker from the eu rather than having the ability to do Different Things<\/a>. Thats a thats a real concern for some people. And doesnt that make the timing of comments really timing of these comments really quite interesting then, if you think this soft launch think is this a soft launch were looking to do in 2025 . Anthony yorkshire says anthony in North Yorkshire<\/a> says have you noticed that sir keir starmer keeps referring to the eu as our eu partners . That has eu as our eu partners . That has not been the case since 2020. This exposes his true attitude brexit for him is just an inconvenience which he will sweep away at the first opportunity. He will do. Keep your views coming in on that story. I know lots of you will have a view on that. Vaiews gbnews. Com and of course well be getting more from our explosive panel. Peter edwards, the former editor of labourlist, and Peter Whittle<\/a> will be giving us some very , very different very, very different perspectives some of those perspectives on some of those top stories of the day, including no doubt on the eus position on and indeed the labour partys position on the eu. Well, thats after your morning news with Tatiana Sanchez<\/a>. Tom, thank you very much and good morning. Its exactly 1030. This is the latest. Ministers would be forced to consult the economic watchdog before implementing major budget changes , according to plans by changes, according to plans by the labour party. The shadow the labour party. The shadow chancellor says it will ensure the mistakes of liz trusss so called mini budget are not repeated. Rachel reeves cited repeated. Rachel reeves cited the higher cost of mortgages, energy bills and everyday food items as among the consequences of the former Prime Minister<\/a>s short lived economic reform. But minister for food, farming and fisheries, mark spencer, says the truss mini budget isnt to blame for soaring prices. Blame for soaring prices. I think global population is continuing to increase on the back of that, weve got the challenges of Climate Change<\/a> and then if you throw into the mix a Global Pandemic<\/a> and a war in europe, thats whats really dnven europe, thats whats really driven the price of energy and of food through the roof. We of food through the roof. We need to invest in our farmers in our uk, Food Producers<\/a> to make sure that they have the best technology, the best stock , the technology, the best stock, the best techniques, and of course , best techniques, and of course, taxpayer support to continue to produce this great food. Produce this great food. The chancellor says very difficult decisions will make tax cuts virtually impossible. Tax cuts virtually impossible. While some of jeremy hunts Party Colleagues<\/a>, including former Prime Minister<\/a> liz truss, are reportedly pushing for tax relief after better than expected economic news, hunt says he wishes that there were an option, but the government must stick with its plan to bnng must stick with its plan to bring down inflation and Interest Rates<\/a>. Staple foods Interest Rates<\/a>. Staple foods such as rice, spaghetti, baked beans and teabags can cost more than three times their usual price if budget versions are not available. Consumer group which. Available. Consumer group which. Found examples such as a large bag of asdas own brand rice is usually priced at about \u00a31. 80, but if no brand was available , but if no brand was available, the bens original version could cost almost \u00a35. The cheaper op\ufb01ons cost almost \u00a35. 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No. My name is tom harwood and im with Ellie Costello<\/a>. Very good. Now its time to go through the top stories today. And us this today. And joining us this morning the former editor of morning is the former editor of the labourlist, edwards, the labourlist, Peter Edwards<\/a>, and of new culture and director of the new culture forum, whittle. Very good forum, Peter Whittle<\/a>. Very good to this to see you both. Peters this morning, whittle , lets morning, Peter Whittle<\/a>, lets start you, shall we . And start with you, shall we . And a level reforms. Now, this is very isnt it . More very interesting, isnt it . More subjects, reforms. Subjects, a level reforms. The idea is to have yes. The idea is to have something rather like a bachelor laureate, basically in a european baccalaureate , which european baccalaureate, which would make english and maths. Im speaking very broadly here, compulsory. I mean, you know, you would do it until 1818 and you would do it until 1818 and you know, this got a very, very mixed response. My feeling mixed response. My feeling really is that on the whole, its sort of a good thing probably really. I mean , well, i probably really. I mean, well, i say that. I mean, im being rather sadistic in the sense that i loathe used maths when i was at school and so, so you, so you think youve done, youve, youve got away with it. Youve got to pull up the pulling up the drawbridge, all the deal the youngsters they can deal with no, no. With it now. No, no. Think, i think the reason i think, i think the reason i say its broadly a good idea is that just simply the educational standards dropped. I think standards have dropped. I think that what the prime that obviously what the Prime Minister<\/a> is trying to do is to make people a little bit more , make people a little bit more, if you like, prepared for the job market as well. And of course, you know , theres a course, you know, theres a knock on effect that quite often in those particular areas, for example, with maths, its usually one of the excuses put forward for bringing people into a country whove got far greater skills on this front. But yes, skills on this front. But yes, you know, it would be something i would absolutely loathe , sort i would absolutely loathe, sort of having to do maths until 18. But i think its actually probably a good thing. The only thing i would say is about this is that for me , without wishing is that for me, without wishing to digress too much, is that with the other things that with all the other things that are happening in the education system, i think this is a lower priority. I mean, i really think that the government should be looking at what children are actually being taught and what teenagers are being taught when it comes to critical race theory, when it comes to gender ideology , all of these things ideology, all of these things which are a growing cause of concern amongst parents now who are becoming much more aware of it, that is where they should really be concerned. Rating when really be concerned. Rating when it comes to education, not on what is actually a technical thing really. Well, Peter Edwards<\/a>, before we get into the weeds of what a new a level would look like just on that point, are schools too left wing now . Left wing now . No, i think thats a really tough start. But im glad you didnt ask me what, 19 times 20 was at this point in the morning. And no, i dont think they are. I think theres they are. And i think theres a few myths around this. But look, lets try not to make Everything Party<\/a> political. Rishi party political. I think rishi sunak is maths and sunak his passion is maths and science. Should science. And i think we should take face value. He has take that at face value. He has a mathematic background. Obviously making obviously it took him to making gazillions in a hedge gazillions of money in a hedge fund, but his interest in maths and science, i think hes genuine. Think concern of genuine. I think the concern of the who called it the labour party who called it a gimmick this morning is to move from a bachelor. And gimmick this morning is to move fro the a bachelor. And gimmick this morning is to move fro the other a bachelor. And gimmick this morning is to move fro the other petera bachelor. And gimmick this morning is to move fro the other peter hinted,. Or. And gimmick this morning is to move fro the other peter hinted, its and as the other peter hinted, its another round of reforms and School Teachers<\/a> are pretty knackered class sizes knackered because class sizes are bigger. Weve covid, are bigger. Weve had covid, which challenge for every which is a challenge for every workplace , but its actually workplace, but its actually been kind of 10 or 15 years of reforms. It was a decade ago that as education secretary michael was vowing to shake michael gove was vowing to shake things and lived up to that things up and lived up to that promise. Dont think the promise. I dont think the teaching profession of schools particularly another round teaching profession of schools pa changes, another round teaching profession of schools pa changes, however ther round teaching profession of schools pa changes, however laudable d teaching profession of schools pa changes, however laudable the of changes, however laudable the aim to improve our aim is of trying to improve our mathematical standards. Mathematical standards. Isnt it kind of a thing that keir starmer might want to say making more europe . Making us much more like europe . This the french do it. This is how the french do it. This is how the french do it. This how germans do it. This is how the germans do it. Actually, americans actually, its how the americans do is the uk a bit do it as well. Is the uk a bit of an outlier with narrowing subjects early . Subjects so early . Think were getting well, i think were Getting Better<\/a> at that. I mean, well come on later about lots of comparisons europe how comparisons with europe and how labour is walking a tightrope. So my thoughts on so ill hold my thoughts on that. I think keir starmer that. But i think keir starmer likes what you might call a bit of bread policy, of a brown bread policy, something sensible, not something thats sensible, not always exciting, you kind of always exciting, but you kind of know good you. And know is good for you. And i think improving maths certainly fits under i think it fits under that, but i think it comes point because comes back to this point because you do you want 18 year you know, do you want 18 year olds be dim or do rmt to be olds to be dim or do rmt to be clever and good at maths . Of course we want be clever course we want them to be clever and maths and i stopped and good at maths and i stopped doing at 16, its doing maths at 16, but its a question how you get there. Question of how you get there. Do work the teaching do you work with the teaching professions or do you have another with schools . Another bust up with schools . Hm Peter Whittle<\/a> is very interesting, isnt it . I mean the of all this sunak the timing of all of this sunak is trying. Speaking gum we were speaking about this yesterday, the yesterday, werent we, on the breakfast clear Breakfast Programme<\/a> . Clear dividing yes. Dividing lines now. Yes. Conservative and labour. Yes. Well, i mean, obviously with the net zero announcements which for many which go a certain way for many of nowhere near enough for of us, nowhere near enough for some but the fact of some of us, but the fact of course it does actually put a wedge between the two parties and there be another and also there will be another one may be discuss what one where we may be discuss what starmer canada. Starmer has said in canada. We get on to well, why dont we get on to that now . Because what what in your view, what was sir keir starmer trying to say . Because he it a few days ago. It he said it a few days ago. It was only picked up by the press . Yes today it was sort of sitting there percolating in the internet while. Internet for a little while. Well, think what what well, i think its what what it really reveals his it sort of really reveals his true colours, actually. I mean, the words here you the actual words here are, you know, he said that labour would not diverge from eu laws or do Different Things<\/a>. I mean its very, very, very broad. Here is a man who has done this kind of rather fraudulent balancing act. I think that the whole point really when you look in the context of him going to europe, i think we even discussed it a few weeks ago to talk about migration and effectively try to get a deal, if you like, with the with the eu. You know, basically , which would have basically, which would have amounted to us going back into their asylum policy. Well actually, we were never part of it, actually joining up to it. Then of course, the whole feeling is basically we going towards europe by stealth, you know, maybe becoming an associate member, joining in the in the fullness of rejoining in the fullness of time. And i the fullness of time. And i think that , you know, he think that, you know, he condemned himself with his own words. I think that in some ways im pleased that hes being more open. Itsjust im pleased that hes being more open. Its just that he chose to do it in canada and not here. Lets throw that to peter. Lets throw that to peter. I think thats what well, i think thats what weve heard a flavour of weve just heard is a flavour of the attack. Were going to get at the next general election. You parts of you bet. Parts of the conservative the conservative party and the media. Think starmer is media. I think keir starmer is being pragmatic, but i think wed all accept hes wed all accept that hes walking in so. Walking a tightrope in doing so. I hes right. And my i think hes right. And my concern is the following weve gone from a referendum to a brexit soft brexit to brexit to a soft brexit to a hard brexit to liz truss saying she doesnt we can she doesnt even know if we can trust france to Boris Johnson<\/a> negotiating a deal which then negotiating a deal which he then campaigned against the british prime , having been Prime Minister<\/a>, having been kicked office, campaigned kicked out of office, campaigned against his brexit deal. So against his own brexit deal. So weve gone from working with Europe Brexit<\/a> europe through brexit 6 or 7 years ago to the chaos and acrimony. And i think keir acrimony. And i think keir starmer is just trying to say, lets be sensible , were not lets be sensible, were not going to have this thing dynamic alignment, which means that you tack along with all the regulations in every sector because thats too complex because thats way too complex and probably wouldnt be and that probably wouldnt be what people wanted in the referendum. You referendum. Um, but the id you dont bust ups on dont keep having bust ups on certain technical standards like veterinary sciences, for example. You do kind of sit alongside europe because for example, people and experts and research and animals cross border. When research and animals cross border. When you put it that way, its not ideological at all. But thats why labour has to kind of kill off because you immediately get these scare stories wants to stories about labour wants to take us in by the back door. This is an outrage and you know, the temperature bubbles up very quickly. You say quite quickly. So you can say quite sensible things, but you are walking a tightrope doing so, walking a tightrope in doing so, particularly with in particularly with friends in certain print media certain parts of the print media like the daily mail. Well, yeah, sorry. I would say to that, peter, you know, you say theres a kind of, you know, these arguments bubble up and that somehow you are the voice of sweet reason about this. The fact is , is 18 about this. The fact is, is 18 Million People<\/a> voted to leave. Million people voted to leave. And the fact is that is done and dusted and anything which took us anywhere near back into the eu would basically be the biggest betrayal of democracy. Biggest betrayal of democracy. Why . Y in other words, its worth getting angry about why, for example, why would coordinating with europe on something as abstract and detailed as veterinary standards be a betrayal of brexit voters in hull or warsaw or anywhere else . Its the whole tone of it, else . Its the whole tone of it, the whole tone of it. We this is not just about basically, you know , getting alignment with know, getting alignment with certain sort of sections of regulations. We all know basically that this man was the remainer in chief, for goodness sake. I remainer in chief, for goodness sake. I mean , you know, why sake. I mean, you know, why would he have changed his his colours now . Because the facts change, as cain says, or when new facts emerge and change ones mind. The only fact thats the most important to remember is that we voted to come out of the we voted to come out of the eu. We will remain out. We should remain out. And all of this kind remain out. And all of this kind of gross weasel words, all of these weasel words, oh, we will, you know, move to nearer to them. I think is outrageous. But at the same time, of course, what it will mean is that people will see see some of what he is i lets lets bring a moment of specifics to this, because, peter, you talk about veterinary standards as one of the concerns from people in government is that if the if the uk aligns with the eu on not just veterinary standards, but also on phyto sanitary standards and all the sort of little technical stuff, stuff thats important, right, that matters with the border , that could force border, that could force a repeal of the Genetic Technology<\/a> act, which is one of these big things that happened under Dominic Cummings<\/a> to allow us to sort of leap in in gm sort of leap forward in in gm crops and all that research, the stuff that we do really well in our university cities, if we cant the regulatory cant have the regulatory freedom to our own freedom there to do our own research of expand our research and sort of expand our agrifood agri science sector , agrifood agri science sector, isnt that Holding Britain<\/a> back . Well, maybe a slip of tongue. You did say under Dominic Cummings<\/a>, although it felt like he was Prime Minister<\/a>, he wasnt actually Prime Minister<\/a> but hes interesting there interesting because sure, there were changes in law were lots of changes in the law after brexit. Are there any after brexit. But are there any benefits . Youve spelt out the legislation, you havent legislation, but you havent speu legislation, but you havent spelt out were better off. Spelt out how were better off. Well i suppose this legislation has come into effect the last has come into effect in the last year so. Year or 50. Year or so. To going take a little its to going take a little while for industry to build while for the industry to build up, theres impact up, so theres no impact to filter think filter through. I dont think youd expect impact to come youd expect the impact to come about the first youd about in the first year. Youd expect you change the expect if you change the Regulatory Framework<\/a> that the Companies Take<\/a> time to build up. Its like with the deregulation that happened the 1980s, the that happened in the 1980s, the mid 1980s, the boom happened in the 1980s, then we saw the late 1980s, and then we saw sustained through the sustained growth through the 1990s sustained growth through the 19905 2000, sustained growth through the 1990s 2000, thanks 1990s and early 2000, thanks to those happened in those reforms that happened in the 1980s. Well, i think if we hadnt privatised vast sectors of british industry in the 1980s, we wouldnt be as poor collectively we are today. Collectively as we are today. But recognise a topic but i recognise thats a topic for another day, i think. I think the challenge and think the challenge just and peter, did cut across peter, i know i did cut across you bit. Think the you a bit. I think the challenge, tom, is youre saying, changed law. Saying, hey, we changed the law. Theres been no impact. Now we might to change it. Might have to change it. Therell be impact. Therell be no impact. There was very, well, there was some very, very got very short very people have got very short memories. If you back to the memories. If you go back to the pandemic, remember, we pandemic, if you remember, we could, you know, go right ahead pandemic, if you remember, we coulrtheiu know, go right ahead pandemic, if you remember, we coulrtheiu know,andright ahead pandemic, if you remember, we coulrtheiu know,and ifiht ahead pandemic, if you remember, we coulrtheiu know,and if wed ead with the vaccine and if wed still connected to the eu, still been connected to the eu, there would have been all sorts of problems. People have forgotten rather oh, peter, forgotten that rather oh, peter, im afraid that debunked. Im afraid that was debunked. That brexit gave us the idea that brexit gave us a as boris a Covid Vaccine<\/a> is, as boris would an inverted pyramid would say, an inverted pyramid of piffle. That never of piffle. That was never evidence. Interesting. Evidence. Its interesting. Did every single eu why did every single eu member state sign up the member state sign up to the eu medicines agencies collective procurement medicines agencies collective pro\ufffd thenient medicines agencies collective pro\ufffd then tot medicines agencies collective pro\ufffd then to be honest , two then to be honest, two reasons. Think they thought reasons. I think they thought they should sign up quickly for a scheme because every government was panicking, quite understandably, sign up understandably, that you sign up for distribution scheme and for a distribution scheme and secondly, its kind in their secondly, its kind of in their dna, it . Collectivism in dna, isnt it . Collectivism in the eu . I think thats the eu . I dont think thats outrageous itself. Outrageous in itself. Move on to one more should we move on to one more story . Because of course , jeremy story . Because of course, jeremy hunt has been saying this week that thanks to the fiscal position that we find ourselves in, tax cuts are virtually impossible. Yes Peter Whittle<\/a>, what do you make of it . Well, i think hes probably right. I well, i think hes probably right. I mean. Well, i think hes probably right. I mean. Well, yes, right. I mean. Well, yes, i mean, but i mean, when you look at the problems facing the country, the idea that somehow youre going to have a sort of tax cutting chancellor at this particular time just seems just inconceivable. Well, i mean, i inconceivable. Well, i mean, i also dont happen to think its the most important thing facing the most important thing facing the country, actually. I mean, maybe that makes me a strange kind of, if you like, conservative or call me. Call you what you want to call me. But its not my priority. But but its not my priority. But the thing is, i would have thought that basically its absolutely impossible. Hes just saying the truth. Saying the truth. Is it not a concern that taxes are highest level since the Second World War<\/a> . Yes, they are. I mean, it is yes, they are. I mean, it is terrible. And anyone who runs terrible. And anyone who runs a company like i do, for example, feels that as well. Well, and of feels that as well. Well, and of course, it would be nice to have taxes down, but im just responding to the story , which responding to the story, which is that i cant where the hell is that i cant where the hell is he going to come from . Thats so interesting, though, because to me, you sound like an outlier for a conservative voter. Im not a conservative voter. Im not a conservative voter. Im not a conservative voter. Im not a conservative voter. If you speak to people on the street, thats what most people want. They want to see tax cuts. They want to see tax cuts from a conservative government yes. Although would yes. Although i would actually that slightly actually question that slightly in always this claim in that its always this claim is always made. But actually is always made. But actually people are i mean, they dont want the highest taxes since since the war. But generally speaking, they are prepared to pay speaking, they are prepared to pay tax if it means for Certain Services<\/a> and all the rest of it. Theyre quite happy to do that. I should just make my position clear. All it means is im not a free market. Fundamentally not the who basically always the sort who basically always wants everything. It all wants everything. Just it all comes tax. I think the comes down to tax. I think the kind of cultural issues that were facing in the country in all sorts ways far, all sorts of ways are far, far more important. Edwards , is this well, Peter Edwards<\/a>, is this now perhaps a Cross Party Consensus<\/a> that is really austerity brain, isnt it, consensus that is really austerity brain, isnt it , that austerity brain, isnt it, that you cant borrow that that everything has to be spent for . I mean, that i suppose, is what both the labour party and the conservative party are saying, perhaps very sensibly. Well, politicians say everything has to be paid for. It doesnt always pan out like that. And without regurgitating the the last 13 the whole history of the last 13 years or we had austerity years or so, we had austerity then. Johnson in then. Boris johnson kind of in then. Boris johnson kind of in the music, that the mood music, indicated that austerity was over, but actually that wasnt really fair because capital spending, buying stuff and investing in stuff that makes us all a bit richer. Roads and bridges and hospitals was to off a very, very slow start. And because were all so much poorer, the government spent a lot on transfers, which is, lot more on transfers, which is, you know, Social Security<\/a> benefits need the benefits because we need the money which is money to live, which is important, but thats not investing the future. Investing for the future. Now, the in bind. Jeremy the government in a bind. Jeremy hunt, remember brought hunt, remember, was brought in to sensible person after to be the sensible person after liz the economy , liz truss crashed the economy, sacked kwasi kwarteng, she crashed. She thats crashed the economy. She thats again dont think got again i dont think ive got time. If you want to time. If you want me to stay till 2 00, i will. But till 1 00 or 2 00, i will. But it could be your viewers might have enough of me by then. But he was brought to be captain he was brought in to be Captain Sensible<\/a> perception sensible with the perception that crashed the that liz truss had crashed the economy. She did. But economy. I think she did. But theres now a debate among the conservative they write theres now a debate among the con manifesto. They write theres now a debate among the con manifesto. I they write theres now a debate among the con manifesto. I thinkthey write theres now a debate among the con manifesto. I think the write theres now a debate among the con manifesto. I think the dream the manifesto. I think the dream very quickly is that inflation comes a bit comes down. People feel a bit \ufb01cher then comes down. People feel a bit richer then rishi sunak the richer and then rishi sunak the budget, which now happens in the autumn, pledges off autumn, pledges a penny off income know that income tax. But we know that cost 6 to \u00a37 billion for each penny off income tax. And thats why theres a furious debate in the conservative party about whether that or not. Whether to go with that or not. You think it could be so you think it could be a last minute pre election . Would peter would that Peter Whittle<\/a>, would that potentially backfire . A last minute cut after saying minute tax cut after saying after rolling the pitch in this way, these are virtually way, saying these are virtually impossible or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, suddenly blah, blah, blah, suddenly a pre election cut would sort pre election tax cut would sort of a fake , like of almost seem a bit fake, like its a revolutionary approach to politics, i think. No , no question about it. No, no question about it. Every thing that happens now with this government between now and what would it be in a years time maybe . I think will be should be viewed through the prism of the coming election. And also, i have great faith in actually the wisdom of majority of people. And they can sort of of people. And they can sort of see this. I think that the most see this. I think that the most opportunistic politician surely would then Start Talking<\/a> about tax cuts just before an election. Okay. Peter whittle , Peter Edwards<\/a>, Peter Whittle<\/a>, Peter Edwards<\/a>, weve got to leave it there, im afraid, sir, in peter, peter and peter, peter, Peters Square<\/a> this morning. Thank you very, very much for your time. You will certainly have a view of the stories we touch upon the stories that we touch upon there, its jeremy hunt there, whether its jeremy hunt and tax being impossible and tax cuts being impossible and tax cuts being impossible and eu, has he and starmer in the eu, has he let of the bag . And let the cat out of the bag . And were also going to talk a little bit about a level reforms were also going to talk a littwellt about a level reforms were also going to talk a littwell throughout evel reforms were also going to talk a littwell throughout the reforms as well throughout the programme. So let us know what you think about that, especially if or if youve got children or grandchildren who are going to be affected that. What do you be affected by that. What do you think . English until think . Maths and english until 18, with us. Lots 18, but do stay with us. Lots still to come. Were going to be talking about matt hancock, still to come. Were going to be talkingwe . ut matt hancock, still to come. Were going to be talkingwe . We matt hancock, still to come. Were going to be talkingwe . We are. Hancock, still to come. Were going to be talkingwe . We are. Hes ock, still to come. Were going to be talkingwe . We are. Hes been in arent we . We are. Hes been in celebrity sas. Were going to be talking to his fellow contestant, model and tv personality, lloyd. We personality, Danielle Lloyd<\/a>. We want to know how he got along. So stay tuned for that. So do stay tuned for that. Looks like things are heating up, boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news alex of weather on. Gb news alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. Very different conditions over the next three days. Sun and showers today, a fine day for most tomorrow before things turn very wet for some turn windy and very wet for some on sunday. Thats because of this ex hurricane tracking towards the uk. This ridge of High Pressure<\/a> will bring most of us a day tomorrow, but us a fine day tomorrow, but today low pressure to the north, bringing plenty of showers, quite a few of us have had a sunny morning, particularly in the but the cloud bubbling the east, but the cloud bubbling up now and well see more showers through the showers developing through the day, across northern day, quite wet across northern scotland its quite scotland where its also quite windy, many windy, perhaps not too many showers east anglia the showers for east anglia in the south east central south east and parts of Central Scotland<\/a> dry. Scotland may stay mostly dry. But elsewhere it will be that case of sunny. One minute heavy shower, the next, and temperatures generally a touch below average. Feeling quite fresh there , especially when fresh out there, especially when the along. More of the showers come along. More of those around this those showers around this evening of spray and evening. So a lot of spray and surface the if surface water on the roads if youre heading away for the weekend. The showers should weekend. But the showers should fade rapidly most fade pretty rapidly in most locations. This evening. So generally becoming dry and clear overnight and actually quite a chilly old night. Quite a fresh start to saturday for sure. Could see a touch of frost across parts of the north in in the countryside. So chilly the countryside. So a chilly start. But generally a fine start. Yes. But generally a fine day to come. Tomorrow, some early maybe across early showers maybe across norfolk still windy norfolk. Still quite windy across Northern Isles<\/a> across the Northern Isles<\/a> initially, but even here, the winds easing. A day of winds easing. Generally a day of sunny spells places sunny spells and most places will stay dry. But notice the cloud and rain gathering behind again, temperatures mostly in the high teens. Bye for now. The high teens. Bye for now. Looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on gb news. Good morning. Its 11 am. On friday, the 22nd of september. This is britains newsroom on gb news. With me , Ellie Costello<\/a> news. With me, Ellie Costello<\/a> and tom howard. This is whats and tom howard. This is whats coming up on todays programme. Coming up on todays programme. Um yes. Labours weds streeting sat down with our very own Political Editor<\/a>, chris hope, for a discussion on labours plans for the future. Labours plans for the future. Sir keir starmer says he doesnt want to diverge from eu rules should he become pm, but what does this mean . Could we be dragged back into the eu . Dragged back into the eu . And the former Health Secretary<\/a> matt hancock joins the sas who dares wins crew. Well sas who dares wins crew. Well be joined by one celebrity who spent time with him on set. Yes, really looking forward to hearing from Danielle Lloyd<\/a> and hearing from her about how Matt Hancock Hancock<\/a> was on the set of celebrity sas, who dares wins. How do you get along . Well find out shortly. So you dont want to miss that. And were also talking about a levels. How do you feel about the idea doing maths and the idea of doing maths and engush the idea of doing maths and english up to 18 years old . Is that a good thing or a bad thing to let us know what you to do . Let us know what you think. Vaiews gbnews. Com to do . Let us know what you think lets iews gbnews. Com to do . Let us know what you think lets iews news vs. Com to do . Let us know what you think letsiews news bulletin first, lets get a news bulletin with Tatiana Sanchez<\/a>. With Tatiana Sanchez<\/a>. And this is the latest from the newsroom. All major budget decisions will be checked by the watchdog. According to new plans by labour. It would mean the office for budget responsibility would be legally obliged to review significant changes. The review significant changes. The shadow chancellor says it will ensure the mistakes of liz truss so called mini budget are not repeated and Rachel Reeves<\/a> cited the high cost of mortgages, energy bills and everyday food items among the consequences of the former Prime Minister<\/a>s short lived economic reform. But short lived economic reform. But the minister for food, mark spencer , says the mini budget spencer, says the mini budget isnt to blame for soaring prices. I think global population is continuing to increase. Increase. Its on the back of that. Weve got the challenges of Climate Change<\/a> and then if you throw into the mix a Global Pandemic<\/a> and a war in europe, thats whats really driven the price of energy and of food through the roof. We need to invest in our farmers, in our uk, Food Producers<\/a> to make sure that they have the best technology, the best stock , the technology, the best stock, the best techniques, and of course , best techniques, and of course, taxpayer support to continue to produce this great food. Produce this great food. Labour insists its been clear about the partys red lines when it comes to britains relationship with the European Union<\/a>. Speaking in canada, sir keir starmer said he didnt want to diverge from eu rules and argued that the uk and brussels should share a future together. Shadow financial secretary james murray told gb news the labour leader was referring only to certain eu rules. I think what he was talking about was about the fact that we have no interest in watering down uk standards when it comes to things like Consumer Protection<\/a>, workers rights and food standards and so on. You know, thats what he was talking about and he was talking about that very clearly in the context of our red lines when it comes to our relationship with the eu, you know, and those red lines are around, you know, not rejoining Single Market<\/a> or rejoining the Single Market<\/a> or the union and not the Customs Union<\/a> and not bringing back freedom of movement. Bringing back freedom of movement. But, bringing back freedom of movement. But, know, we have movement. But, you know, we have those lines , but within those red lines, but within those red lines, but within those lines , were clear those red lines, were clear that we do an improved that we do need an improved trading relationship with the eu. Thats what we would eu. And thats what we would seek to secure. Chancellor says very the chancellor says very difficult decisions will make tax cuts virtually impossible. Some of jeremy hunts Party Colleagues<\/a>, including former Prime Minister<\/a> liz truss, are reportedly pushing for tax relief after better than expected economic news. Mr hunt says he wishes that there were an option but the government must stick with its plan to bnng must stick with its plan to bring down inflation and Interest Rates<\/a>. Staple foods Interest Rates<\/a>. Staple foods such as rice, pasta and teabags can cost more than three times their usual price. If budget versions are not available. Consumer group which. Found examples such as a large bag of asdas own brand rice, which is usually priced at around \u00a31. 80. But if no own brand is available, the beans original version can cost almost \u00a35. The cheaper options are often unavailable to shoppers who rely on local convenience shops, which is calling on supermarket eats to ensure they stock their value ranges across all of their locations. The return of summer locations. The return of summer weather last month helped retail sales recover, though there was a drop in the demand for fuel. Figures from the office for National Statistics<\/a> shows retail sales grew by 0. 4. It said stronger interest in clothes shopping drove the increase , but shopping drove the increase, but fuel sales were 1. 2 lower due to rising global prices. It comes after julys wet weather was blamed for people skipping their summer wardrobe shopping. Their summer wardrobe shopping. Now, an eight Year Old Girl<\/a> has become the first child in the uk to receive a special type of kidney transplant without needing to take long term drugs. Adt shankars immune system. Adt shankars immune system was reprogrammed after a stem cell transplant. That meant her body accepted a donor kidney as its own. Professor Stephen Marks<\/a> is a childrens kidney specialist at great ormond street hospital. He says a rare underlying condition complex made the procedure because of her underlying immune condition. It meant that she would not be able to receive a kidney transplant. Her immune transplant. Her immune deficiency had to be in corrected by having mums bone marrow first. And because adt was able to engraft and accept her mums bone marrow , that her mums bone marrow, that therefore meant that her body could then see her mums kidney when it was transplanted as being part of her and its the final day of the king and queens state visit to france today. Yesterday they spent the afternoon visiting a flower market before heading to notre dame cathedral. Today theyll meet Business Owners<\/a> in bordeaux before touring a vineyard in the heart of frances wine country. Theyll also join a reception on a Royal Navy Frigate<\/a> and ride a tram to the citys main square. Tram to the citys main square. This is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car on Digital Radio<\/a> and on your Smart Speaker<\/a> by saying play gb news. Now its back to ellie and. Tom back to ellie and. Tom good morning. Its 1106. Good morning. Its1106. Loads of you getting in touch this morning. Thank you so much for your company. Loads of you in fact, getting in touch on the Junior Doctor<\/a> that we interviewed earlier. She seems to ruffled quite a few to have ruffled quite a few feathers. Is on strike this feathers. She is on strike this week alongside many Junior Doctors<\/a> consultants. Doctors and nhs consultants. Well, johns been in touch , well, johns been in touch, saying he was really disappointed in the interview. What disappointed me the most was reaction of this doctor was the reaction of this doctor who her who could not contain her amusement at the thought of having to take this hippocratic oath , which i was asking her oath, which i was asking her about. He goes , it is very, very about. He goes, it is very, very sad which doctors dont do now. The do no harm oath. Simon in stroud says, i was appalled at the attitude of the lady doctor on your show this morning. Uk doctors are not just employees of the government. Theyve always held out for the right to undertake private work. Ive just paid \u00a3225 for a 45 minute consultation on nice work if you can get it. And there were figures, figures out this morning, werent there \u00a33,000 on average is how much its costing to cover a shift for Junior Doctors<\/a> and consultant work during the strike action, but also very expensive. What simon is saying here, i think gets to the heart of this issue. A lot of i mean, bushra was right this morning. A lot of doctors in the uk are leaving to go to other countries. Can go to other countries. They can get paid more in other countries. Other countries countries. Why other countries have private have much bigger private sectors. The nhs is unique in the world in terms of being so pubuc the world in terms of being so Public Sector<\/a> dominated. Most Public Sector<\/a> dominated. Most other Health Care Systems<\/a> are a mix of private and public. I mean, thats the case in france. Thats the case in germany. Its even the case. Theres a much bigger private sector in australia where loads of doctors from the United Kingdom<\/a> go. If you earn over a certain wage , you earn over a certain wage, you earn over a certain wage, you have to take out private health insurance. Thats the law. Otherwise you get fined. Yeah its i think that i mean, if we need if were thinking about paying doctors more in this country , we perhaps we this country, we perhaps we should learn things from other countries, other European Countries<\/a>, other European Countries<\/a> or even australia in terms of how they run their systems. And it will be really interesting actually to hear because Christopher Hope<\/a>, our new Political Editor<\/a>, he has sat down health down with the shadow Health Secretary<\/a> itll secretary wes streeting. Itll be interesting see be really interesting to see what he puts to wes streeting about nhs and perhaps about nhs reform and perhaps some need to be some of these ideas need to be brought up him. Well have brought up with him. Well have to Christopher Hope<\/a> about to ask Christopher Hope<\/a> about that. Been in touch that. Carls been in touch saying on nhs strikes again, saying on the nhs strikes again, if for money, why they if not for money, why do they still talk about about money . Enough enough. Why do they enough is enough. Why do they not have a committee that fights for changes instead of just talking money . All the time . And claire says these doctors and consultants are greedy, selfish and very political. Well she if you if you have a pro Junior Doctor<\/a> or British Medical Association<\/a> comment, please do write in gbviews gbnews. Com. I have to say not a lot of love for those on strike this morning. And that Junior Doctor<\/a> that we spoke to this morning and apparently the hippocratic oath, ihave apparently the hippocratic oath, i have just had to look this up. Apparently the majority of uk medical require medical schools still do require or invite their or at least invite their students say it at their students to say it at their graduation. An there also is modified versions at places like aberdeen and dundee and bristol, who have a modernised version of the hippocratic oath. So id be very interested to see where our Junior Doctor<\/a> studied a little bit on. But keep bit earlier on. But do keep those views coming in on any of the stories that were talking about today. Gb views gb about today. Gb views at gb news. Keir news. Com but on to keir starmer. He says of course, he doesnt want to diverge from rules want to diverge from eu rules should might should he become pm. One might ask what whats the point in leaving the eu if youre going to follow all of their rules afterwards . Yes. Well, speaking at a conference in montreal, keir conference in montreal, sir keir starmer appeared that starmer appeared convinced that but britain, both the starmer appeared convinced that butand britain, both the starmer appeared convinced that butand the britain, both the starmer appeared convinced that butand the uk britain, both the starmer appeared convinced that butand the uk would. Both the starmer appeared convinced that butand the uk would need the starmer appeared convinced that butand the uk would need to e starmer appeared convinced that butand the uk would need to work eu and the uk would need to work on common goals such as Climate Change<\/a> immigration. Change and immigration. Lets hear say. Hear what he had to say. Most of the conflict with the uk being outside of the uk anses uk being outside of the uk arises in so far as the uk wants to diverge and do Different Things<\/a> to the rest of our eu partners. Obviously, the more we partners. Obviously, the more we share values, the more we share a future together , the less the a future together, the less the conflict and actually different ways of solving problems are become available. You know, actually we dont want to diverge. We dont want to lower standards. We dont want to rip up environmental standards, working standards for people at work, food standards and all the rest of it. So suddenly youre in a space where not withstanding the obvious fact that we are outside of the eu and not in the eea, theres a lot more Common Ground<\/a> than you might think. Now, confusingly , he was in now, confusingly, he was in front of a banner that said canada 2020, but this is recorded in 2023. The organisation in canada 2020 was hosting a conference in 2023, slightly confusing , but there we slightly confusing, but there we go. Lets get more on this and try and make more sense with our Political Editor<\/a>, chris hope. Morning, chris. The labour party is trying to play this down, trying to say that this isnt different from what hes said before, but i think most people can see that it is a bit different. Different. Yeah, i mean that term. Brian yeah, i mean that term. Brian brexit in name only. Tom that you and i remember from those brexit wars post 2016 is what people will see this as the idea. Whats the point in leaving the European Union<\/a> if were going to stay closely augned were going to stay closely aligned to what the eu say . Thats not its not dynamic alignment, were not going alignment, i. E. Were not going to everything the eu but to do everything the eu say, but if we make choices, that means were in the same camp as eu, then are we outside it . Then why are we outside it . I have wes streeting have interviewed wes streeting interviews playing out in the next hour on gb news. He did. He did tell me. I asked the very question about this. He said we get the message and he said that brexit and to fight that brexit and trying to fight that lost us the past two elections. Its not a decision or a mistake theyll make again. Instead, theyll make again. Instead, they want to try and do more things on small more on things on small boats, more on science, technology, on the climate those the Climate Change<\/a>. Those are the spaces they want to work together. But youre right to ask question why . Whats ask the question why . Whats the point leaving but point of leaving the eu . But i suppose theyre not going to go back, not going to reopen the sovereignty which is what sovereignty issue, which is what is important so many is so important to so many brexiteers. Understand that brexiteers. They understand that parliament brexiteers. They understand that parlia choices in this country, make choices in this country, but what the choice the labour appear to be offering to electors next year at the election is vote for us and well do things more closely to the how that goes down the eu and how that goes down amongst electorate is yet to amongst the electorate is yet to be seen. Well, is going to be well, it is going to be really interesting see it really interesting to see how it goes with electorate. Goes down with the electorate. I mean, been hearing from mean, weve been hearing from viewers this morning, chris, saying, for saying, well, if you vote for starmer, youre voting to enter back via the back back into the eu via the back door. Back into the eu via the back door. And you can understand why door. And you can understand why people listening to these comments that way. Comments would feel that way. Well thats right. I mean, the tory idea of brexit is to forge a new path for the country outside of the eu, away from those Apron Strings<\/a> and do our own thing on on deals deals with the Trans Pacific<\/a> trade partnership, trade deals with with us states, with the us. Maybe with obviously india, possibly by christmas. Thats the idea thats punching out away from the confines of the eu. Labour is offering to huddle closer to the eu and do things that they want to do. And of course the context of this is this renegotiation of sorts of the trade agreement which could mean a deal on fish. The uk gets back a deal on fish. The uk gets back the rights to all of its fishing waters in about 18 months time. Would that be negotiated away for a closer deal on other areas with with the European Union<\/a>, maybe veterinary or maybe veterinary areas or selling electric batteries for cars , that kind of thing. So im cars, that kind of thing. So im afraid to say brexit, the big the big issue on brexit is settled in terms of we have Left Parliament<\/a> sovereign, but how parliament is sovereign, but how that applied what will be that is applied is what will be a big issue at next a big issue at the next election. Now we will be seeing your exclusive interview this morning streeting morning with wes streeting within the next hour on this channel. Can you give us a sneak preview into what what the shadow Health Secretary<\/a> and what many people are describing as someone who could be the next leader of the labour party after keir starmer. Leader of the labour party after keir starmer. What did he say to keir starmer. What did he say to you . Well its fascinating. Was listening to your chat there about Junior Doctors<\/a> and i asked him particularly, what would you do to match this , this would you do to match this, this Junior Doctors<\/a> demand of 35 pay Junior Doctors<\/a> demand of 35 pay against the pay rise against the governments offer via the pay review body of just 6 . I said, would labour meet that at any point and he said quite interestingly that they cant guarantee doing it in their first term of a Labour Government<\/a>. That means that the Junior Doctors<\/a> wouldnt get what they wanted 2029. Dont they wanted by 2029. Dont forget, this is at least this idea of pay restoration is what the bma call it. The idea of restoring doctors pay to what it was in 2008 because theyve had below inflation pay rises since then. But i wonder whether doctors unhappy about doctors may be unhappy about this find out that a labour this to find out that a Labour Government<\/a> cant guarantee be delivering that, that that demand for five years if they win really, really interesting. Chris hope, very good to see you this morning. Thank you very much for your time. And im sure chris hope also puts him the comments of sir keir starmer about the eu will be very, very interesting to hear what wes streeting had to say to that. And you can see the full interview just after midday here on that channel. I do just want to say on this channel, i should say i do just want to share some views that have come through about sir keir starmer comments on the eu. Alastair says, why oh why not get a government why can we not get a government or minister or elected or a Prime Minister<\/a> or elected ministers . What the will of ministers . Do what the will of the people them to and the people ask them to do . And ali i just dont trust ali says, i just dont trust starmer. Remember when he had us as the laughing stock of the world and charlotte says, no way, ill vote for him whilst he continues move towards continues to move towards reversing brexit and accepting more migrants or even more migrants , charlotte says. Migrants, charlotte says. And i suppose that is of course referencing that returns agreement that could get migrants swapped into the to the to the uk. Of course, when we were part of the European Union<\/a>, part of the dublin arrangement on illegal migration for the last few years, we had more Illegal Migrants<\/a> put into the United Kingdom<\/a> than we sent out of the United Kingdom<\/a> thanks to that arrangement. So a returns agreement isnt always a guarantee that fewer people will come. Do you know what i find so interesting now . I mean, even looking at the front page of the times this morning and the pm talking about a level reform is it feels like were entering an election period. Havent got election period. We havent got the election the data for general election yet, but have both yet, but we have got both leaders of both parties now making clear dividing lines between them. And it does feel like were entering that new territory, doesnt it . Well, you say both leaders of both parties, theres another political well. Its Political Party<\/a> as well. Its the democrat the liberal Democrat Party<\/a> conference weekend Conference Starting<\/a> this weekend. Up there this. Im heading up there this weekend. Im going it will be my first dem party first ever Lib Dem Party<\/a> conference. Ive done labour and tories for years and years and years, time im years, but the first time im going to go and see speak to ed davey. Its in bournemouth. Itll nice. Hopefully, itll be nice. Hopefully, hopefully sunny. Hopefully itll be sunny. Although the weather hopefully itll be sunny. Altthe gh the weather hopefully itll be sunny. Altthe last the weather hopefully itll be sunny. Altthe last couple the weather hopefully itll be sunny. Altthe last couple ofthe weather hopefully itll be sunny. Altthe last couple of days,aather in the last couple of days, i dont think it will be. But, but, but interestingly, ed davey is at at his is going to say at at his conference that he firing the conference that he is firing the starting pistol on the general election campaign, although judging by what rishi sunak and keir starmer have been up to, i think he might have missed the gun. E e well, let us know what well, well, let us know what you make of that. Vaiews gbnews. Com. Does vaiews gbnews. Com. It does certainly feel like were entering a general entering that era of a general election. Its certainly on the election. Its certainly on the horizon, isnt it . And how do you with us . Wont want you stay with us . You wont want to this. You might to miss this. You might be wondering. It might be something that that questions you keeps you at perhaps. What you up at night, perhaps. What is with matt is it like to live with matt hancock . Well, were going be hancock . Well, were going to be talking lloyd, the talking to Danielle Lloyd<\/a>, the model shes model and reality star. Shes going sharing us what going to be sharing with us what it like to live with the it was like to live with the former Health Secretary<\/a>. So you wont want to miss that. Temperatures rising on the temperatures rising on boxt proud sponsors of boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news alex deakin weather on. Gb news alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office. Four gb news very different conditions over the next three days. Sun and showers today, a fine day for tomorrow fine day for most tomorrow before turn windy and before things turn windy and very wet for some on sunday. Thats because of this x hurricane tracking towards the uk. This ridge of High Pressure<\/a> uk. This ridge of High Pressure<\/a> will bring most of us a fine day tomorrow, but today, low pressure to the north, bringing plenty of showers. Quite few plenty of showers. Quite a few of had a sunny morning, of us have had a sunny morning, particularly east, but particularly in the east, but the bubbling now the cloud bubbling up now and well showers well see more showers developing day, developing through the day, quite wet northern quite wet across northern scotland its also quite scotland where its also quite windy, perhaps many windy, perhaps too not many showers east anglia showers for east anglia in the south east parts central south east and parts of Central Scotland<\/a> dry. Scotland may stay mostly dry. But elsewhere it will be that case of sunny. One minute heavy shower. Next, shower. The next, and temperatures generally touch temperatures generally a touch below feeling quite below average, feeling quite fresh there, especially when fresh out there, especially when the come along. All the showers come along. All of those showers this those showers around this evening. Lot of spray and evening. So a lot of spray and surface water the roads if surface water on the roads if youre heading away for the weekend. The showers weekend. But the showers should fade most fade pretty rapidly in most locations this evening. So generally becoming dry and clear overnight actually quite a chilly old night. Quite a fresh start to saturday for sure. Start to saturday for sure. Could see a touch of frost across parts of the north in in the countryside. So a chilly the countryside. So a chilly start. Yes. But generally a fine day to come tomorrow. Some early showers across norfolk. Showers maybe across norfolk. Still quite windy across the northern initially but Northern Isles<\/a>. Initially but even winds easing even here, the winds easing generally a day sunny spells generally a day of sunny spells and most places will stay dry. But notice the cloud and rain gathering behind again, temperatures mostly in the high teens by for now, the temperatures rising. Boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Join the live desk on gb news. The peoples channel, britains news. News. The peoples channel, britains news. Channel very good morning to you. It is just about still morning. Its 1123 it is just about still morning. Its1123 and youre with britains newsroom here on gb news with Ellie Costello<\/a> and me, tom harwood. Now a new batch of famous faces will soon be pushed to the physical and emotional limits as celebrity , who dares wins celebrity sas, who dares wins returns to screens next week. Yes, known for its gruelling and punishing tasks, previous series have been has seen many fall short of completing the full regime. Um. Full regime. Um. But will the former Health Secretary<\/a> turned reality star matt hancock be one of them . Will he make it to the end . Well, joining us now to share her experience on the rough and ready reality show is model and tv personality Danielle Lloyd<\/a>. Really good to see you this morning. Danielle now, i have heard on the grapevine this morning that you and a certain mr matt hancock have done very well in this series of celebrity sas. So how do you think you got sas. So how do you think you got along . Along . Well, it was so mentally and physically gruelling. I think that everyone really tried so hard on there and everyone did really well. And, you know , it really well. And, you know, it was a really tough challenge. And i think everyone will be watching when it starts on tuesday to see how matt gets on. So for those of those of the audience who havent seen this tv show before, how does it exactly work . What are the gruelling challenges that you get up to . Get up to . Um, theres a lot. So we have um, theres a lot. So we have to carry a big bag around with us all day, every day while were climbing mountains and yeah , its a really, really yeah, its a really, really tough challenge , not just tough challenge, not just physically. I think the mental stuff as well, really, really , stuff as well, really, really, um, challenges everybody. You um, challenges everybody. You know, were, theres parts of it which are really tough and even just down to missing your family as well , thats probably one of as well, thats probably one of the hardest things i found. The hardest things i found. And danielle, whereabouts was this filmed . Because looks this filmed . Because it looks very from the pictures very tropical from the pictures that were seeing across the screen. And much did that screen. And how much did that play screen. And how much did that play how challenging the play into how challenging the experience you . Experience was for you . Yeah, it was actually filmed in vietnam in the jungle, so it was really , really hot. And it was really, really hot. And it rained every single day. There was actually a really bad tropical rainstorm when we were there. So we were literally and in shin deep water every single day and we had to sleep in our wet clothes, which was just horrendous as well. Horrendous as well. Turning to, i suppose , the turning to, i suppose, the big surprise contestant on this years celebrity sas, who dares wins, i suppose we should stop referring to him as so much as a politician. Now, as a former Health Secretary<\/a>, as a National Figure<\/a> during covid, hes becoming a bit of a reality tv star in his own right. Danielle how did matt hancock fit in with the rest of you. The rest of you. Well, i dont really follow politics myself, so for me, i just knew he was the guy that told me to stay in every single day through covid. And but i just took him as a fandom. You know, he was nice enough to me. He i think a lot of people in there had a lot of questions for him, which he did answer. There had a lot of questions for him, which he did answer. And him, which he did answer. And so, yeah, i just think we were in such an intense environment that we just had to get on with it. So yeah, we will. Well see how he does. How he does. Yeah, im very intrigued to see how he does because he was on im a celebrity, wasnt he . And i think people i think generally the public were quite surprised, actually at how much he got in. So is that he got stuck in. So is that similar to the experience that you with on celebrity you had with him on celebrity sas . He did want to get stuck in and be part of the team. And be part of the team. He definitely wanted to yeah, he definitely wanted to be part of the team and for him it must have been really, really difficult because , you know, he difficult because, you know, he probably nervous about meeting everybody because you know, i think the whole of the uk feels like the whole of the uk are against him, so it must have been really scary for him to come an environment where come into an environment where he didnt know what anyone thought him. And but he didnt know what anyone thought him. And but it did thought of him. And but it did get stuck in and he made some friends. Friends. Danielle i mean, its amazing talking to you because when i do watch this series and i do, its a great show, i always think , a great show, i always think, who would be mad enough to sign up this . Looks so up to this . It looks so difficult in so many different ways. What made you want to sign ways. What made you want to sign up . Up . Do you know what im used to being that stay at home mum. Ive got five kids and take them to School Every Day<\/a> and take them to football. And i just think i wanted to do something for myself for once. And that is what i did. I took myself off to vietnam and im hopefully, hopefully made the kids proud that you did. Ive heard that youve done a really, really good job and you should be telling you all this stuff. Ive got an inside whos told me youve done very well, danielle. My goodness me. Have you yourself your you surprised yourself with your with strengths. And i feel with your strengths. And i feel like ive ive always known that im quite a mentally strong person because obviously i have to be looking at five children. But i think the physical side is what ive really, really struggled with. So i think when youve got a strong mind, you can get through anything. Yeah, good message there , yeah, good message there, danielle. So where can people catch this if they want to watch the show . The show . So it starts on tuesday the 26th and that is on at 9 30. And then its on every sunday at 9 pm. So dont miss it. P. M. So dont miss it. Nothing. Well, Danielle Lloyd<\/a>, really good to have you on the program this morning. Thank you so much for your company. And were really looking forward watching it. Looking forward to watching it. Have the show at all . I havent. No, i do. You know what . I know that. But you know but you know that. But you know but you know what . I think Johnny Mercer<\/a> has onit know what . I think Johnny Mercer<\/a> has on it before. Am right . Has he . I dont know. I dont know. I think. Think. I know. I think. Think. Ithink know. I think. Think. I think i remember. I think. I think i remember. So i think that matt so i dont think that matt hancock is the first mp to have been on the show, but i think hes probably the highest profile. I think certainly hes probably the highest proifirst think certainly hes probably the highest proifirst former certainly hes probably the highest proifirst former cabinet ainly the first former cabinet minister on the show, minister to be on the show, probably, i would think. Dont yeah. But it is i dont know. Yeah. But it is going be interesting to watch going to be interesting to watch because havent because if you havent seen the show this for you, show before, this is for you, thomas. Its very gruelling, very, spent time very, very. I spent all my time watching news. Watching gb news. Dont know how im going to i dont know how im going to do it. Yeah, so do i have to watch it catch up . It on catch up . Between the hours of maybe between the hours of midnight when gb news midnight and 6 am. When gb news only shows repeats, thats when i watch it. Thats how. Thats how to do it. Yes yes. So dont dont live. Watch on dont tune in live. Watch on catch up. To come, going catch up. To come, still to come, were going to be back with our explosive panel and todays top stories. You wont miss that. But wont want to miss that. But first, get your latest first, lets get your latest headunes first, lets get your latest headlines Tatiana Sanchez<\/a> headlines with Tatiana Sanchez<\/a> at ali. Thank you very much. And good morning. Its 1130. Thank you very much. And good morning. Its1130. This is the latest. Ministers would be forced to consult the economic watchdog before implementing major budget changes. Watchdog before implementing major budget changes. According major budget changes. According to plans by the labour party. To plans by the labour party. The shadow chancellor says it will the mistakes of liz will ensure the mistakes of liz trusss so called mini budget are not repeated. Rachel reeves are not repeated. Rachel reeves cited the higher cost of mortgages, energy bills and everyday food items among the consequences of the former Prime Minister<\/a>s short lived economic reform. But food minister reform. But food minister farming and fisheries minister mark spencer says the truss mini budget isnt to blame for soaring prices. Soaring prices. I think global population is continuing to increase on the back of that, weve got the challenges of Climate Change<\/a> and then if you throw into the mix a Global Pandemic<\/a> and a war in europe, thats whats really dnven europe, thats whats really driven the price of energy and of food through the roof. We need to invest in our farmers, in our uk Food Producers<\/a> to make sure that they have the best technology , the best stock, the technology, the best stock, the best techniques and of course, taxpayer support to continue to produce this great food. Produce this great food. The chancellor says very difficult decisions will make tax cuts virtually impossible. Tax cuts virtually impossible. Some of jeremy hunts Party Colleagues<\/a> , including former colleagues, including former Prime Minister<\/a> liz truss , are Prime Minister<\/a> liz truss, are reportedly pushing for tax relief after better than expected economic news. Hunt says he wishes that there were an option, but the government must stick with its plan to bnng must stick with its plan to bring down inflation and Interest Rates<\/a> and staple foods such as rice, spaghetti, baked beans and teabags can cost more than three times their usual price. If budget versions are not available. Consumer group not available. Consumer group which. Found examples such as a large bag of asdas own brand rice is usually priced at about \u00a31. 80. But if no own brand was available, the beans original version could cost almost \u00a35. 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Britains news. Channel good morning. Its1130. Oh no, come on. With three seconds away from here, we go. Its 1137 and youre with britains newsroom on gb news with myself, tom harwood and ellie. Yes very good. Now its time to go through the top stories today. Joining us this morning is the author and commentator Peter Whittle<\/a> and commentator Peter Whittle<\/a> and Peter Edwards<\/a> as well. Im afraid thats wrong in the autocue new culture forum. I must whittle and must say, Peter Whittle<\/a> and Peter Edwards<\/a> from labourlist, the former editor of labourlist. We got there eventually. We got there eventually. We got there eventually. We got there eventually. We get oh, my goodness we did get oh, my goodness me. We did get oh, my goodness me you tell its the end of you can tell its the end of the week, cant you . Now, we do want you both. Peters to react to this next clip because the labour leader, sir starmer, has just been sir keir starmer, has just been speaking plans ranging speaking on his plans ranging from the uk economy from brexit, the uk economy and the service. Lets have the Health Service<\/a>. Lets have a little. Little listen. Well, were here today to make our announcements about our plans for the obr just a year or so ago , we had the disastrous so ago, we had the disastrous mini budget of liz truss and people are still paying the price for that and that can never be allowed to happen again. So were setting out a rule that there must be an assessment every time theres a significant fiscal statement involving tax or spend. And this is about bringing stability for so many families that are affected by that disaster of a budget just a year ago. How much budget just a year ago. How much of this is a political move to remind us all about what did happen a year ago with that mini budget here at the Stock Exchange<\/a> . Weve been talking to staff and other people, and the theme of the day and this is the same whenever i talk to businesses is about stability , businesses is about stability, obe and long term and not chopping and changing. And therefore, this measure is to introduce the stability that is desperately needed. A year ago , desperately needed. A year ago, huge damage was done to our economy and people are still paying economy and people are still paying the price that can never be allowed to happen again. So this is a pragmatic, sensible measure already other people are coming out, you know, former Permanent Secretaries<\/a> leading economists, saying this is a goodidea economists, saying this is a good idea for the stability of our economy. But this is focussed on working people and the pain that theyve been through because of that disastrous mini budget just a year ago. So you actually think that legislating around the obr is necessary . Is necessary . Is that why is this an opportunity which governments like this . It is necessary because a year ago the obr offered to do an assessment for liz truss for an assessment for liz truss for a mini budget and she turned it down and we cant let that happen again. So we need a rule that there must be an obr assessment right now. Obviously if theres some very significant event comes event or an election that comes along at some point needs an adjustment , then that can be adjustment, then that can be accommodated. But this is a rule to introduce the security and stability that our economy desperately needs. Comments in desperately needs. Comments in canada at the weekend you said you dont want to diverge from eu rules. The governments now accusing you of wanting to reverse brexit. Whats your response to that . That . I have repeatedly said that there is no case for going back into the eu and that includes the Single Market<\/a> and the Customs Union<\/a> equally , we will Customs Union<\/a> equally, we will not be a rule taker for the rules and laws of this country will be made in Parliament According<\/a> to the National Interest<\/a> put that does not mean that a Labour Government<\/a> wants to lower our standards on food, wants to lower standards on peoples rights at work. The labour party has been completely consistent on those issues for many, many years. Theres no many, many years. Theres no surprise here and incidentally, this is also government policy. This is also government policy. But can you confirm if you would or would not be looking to diverge from eu rules . Diverge from eu rules . And if you were in what areas specifically . No case for rejoining the eu , no case for rejoining the eu, no case for the Customs Union<\/a> or the Single Market<\/a> laws made in this country, according to the public interest. But that does not mean. That does not mean that a Labour Government<\/a> would lower standards on food or lower the rights that people have at work. Thats been consist of Labour Party Policy<\/a> for years. Incidentally it is also government policy. Also government policy. Well, there we go. The Labour Party Leader<\/a> speaking on a rooftop in. London a little rooftop in. London a little catherine force. Yes, well, lets bring in Peter Whittle<\/a> and Peter Edwards<\/a>, our panel this morning for some reaction to sir keir starmer there. What did you have to make . Lets start with his comments there on the obr. Well, this is really going to set the voters alight , isnt it . Set the voters alight, isnt it . From what i can see, its actually quite a small change age and i dont think its going to resonate very much with anyone else really, apart from the westminster bubble. The westminster bubble. Peter edwards is this a westminster bubble announcement talking about the particularities of when the obr must be consulted . Well, on the particularities, first, not in the first, say if youre not in the warp and weft of these warp and weft of all these things, there are two tax and spend things every year by spend type things every year by the government. Spend type things every year by the oneernment. Spend type things every year by the one isiment. Spend type things every year by the one is called a budget and one is called a budget and one autumn statement one is an autumn statement or a spnng one is an autumn statement or a spring statement. It would spring statement. And it would mean perfectly and mean its perfectly sensible and it technical as the other. It is technical as the other. Peter suggests the obr, who peter suggests that the obr, who are independent forecaster, peter suggests that the obr, who are indepertheir forecaster, peter suggests that the obr, who are indepertheir verdict ter, peter suggests that the obr, who are indepertheir verdict on would give their verdict on basically the government would give their verdict on basipayl the government would give their verdict on basipay for the government would give their verdict on basipay for all the government would give their verdict on basipay for all the he government would give their verdict on basipay for all the nice vernment would give their verdict on basipay for all the nice stuffnent can pay for all the nice stuff they theyre going to do. They say theyre going to do. But broader point, that but its a broader point, that clip the discussion weve clip and the discussion weve been in studio. Its been having in the studio. Its all a snapshot of the next general election labour general election because labour want the want to keep talking about the liz truss mini budget and they want weaponize that want to weaponize that and remind everyone of the tory record and tories want to do record and the tories want to do the converse. Going back a lot further they want to further where they want to remind that keir remind the public that keir starmer 7 or 8 years ago voted remain in referendum. So its a playbook Party Playbook<\/a> about each party weaponising the track record of the other. But the weaponising the track record of the other. But the thing is liz truss is much more recent and its quite easy to land the message. Liz truss mortgage bombshell. I think people are less bothered about what Keir Starmers<\/a> views were on the eu 8 or 9 years ago. What did you have to make about his comments there about the eu . Theyre really trying to play the eu . Theyre really trying to play down said last play down what he said last weekend about wanting to not want to diverge from eu. Yes, exactly. Now saying really exactly. Now saying that really nothings changed. Hes got form on well, i mean hes got form on this, hasnt he . I mean, this is exactly way he has behaved exactly the way he has behaved politically , you know, since i politically, you know, since i can remember. And the fact is, is that he showed really where his true sentiments lie when he spoke in canada. So obviously, hes trying to row back slightly now. Obviously dont quite get now. Obviously dont quite get this thing about standards being low. Why would they automatically be lower . You know, when hes talking about food and talking about various different regulations and but i think importantly , the think most importantly, the general thrust of labour and keir starmer is forever closer union with the European Union<\/a> , union with the European Union<\/a>, regardless of what happened. In 2016. Okay. Okay. Okay. An ever closer union. An ever closer union. Well, no one signed up for that. And he was keir starmer was pretty clear in the clip just now on the rooftop of the Stock Exchange<\/a>. No Customs Union<\/a>, no Single Market<\/a>, and no reversing brexit. But i think, as i said earlier, it is this tightrope. And when you go to if youll forgive me for saying so, a wonk a thon, the montreal where the policy wonks get together you sit on a sofa together and you sit on a sofa and in a bit more of a and you talk in a bit more of a relaxed way about your values rather the rather than just nailing the script in 30s as you do when youre on doorstep and you youre on the doorstep and you may slightly more risk of may be slightly more risk of misinterpretation, then you get a of clarification a little bit of clarification that follows. So was very that follows. So he was very clear that interview , no clear in that interview, no reversing weve all reversing brexit. So weve all customs weve all Customs Union<\/a>, weve all misinterpreted what he said in the more relaxed setting, and we should listen what he should only listen to what he said hes speaking from his said when hes speaking from his script. But script. My clarification. But i think natural that when you think its natural that when you go to a walkathon in canada and sit a sofa, you do sit on a sofa, you do extemporise a bit more. And then he the message about not he landed the message about not reversing things that reversing these things that werent paper werent on the ballot paper anyway, way, you want anyway, by the way, do you want to a Single Market<\/a> . We to stay in a Single Market<\/a> . We didnt vote on that. Do you want to stay Customs Union<\/a> . We to stay in the Customs Union<\/a> . We didnt on that. You know. Didnt vote on that. You know. Whats view veterinary whats your view on veterinary standards . Goodness, i didnt standards . My goodness, i didnt even have one. Course, of course. On the of course, of course. On the ballot paper, there werent those particulars, but the whole campaign be those particulars, but the whole camrtogn be those particulars, but the whole camrto make be those particulars, but the whole camrto make trade be those particulars, but the whole camrto make trade deals be those particulars, but the whole camrto make trade deals with be able to make trade deals with other countries . Thats the customs should the uk Customs Union<\/a>. And should the uk be to make its own rules on be able to make its own rules on its own standards, on its own regulations . Single market. But youre market. but but tom, youre very clever chap, though a chap, even though youre a little younger than me. And little bit younger than me. And i you know, not i think, as you know, not everything people said in everything that people said in that true. And some that campaign was true. And some people porkies, including people told porkies, including about people told porkies, including aboyeah, i think i think it was yeah, i think i think it was the remain campaign who said \u00a31,300 worth of each \u00a31,300 worth of for each household think sort of \u00a31,300 worth of for each housaiold think sort of \u00a31,300 worth of for each housa million think sort of \u00a31,300 worth of for each housa Million People<\/a>; sort of \u00a31,300 worth of for each housa Million People<\/a> losingf half a Million People<\/a> losing theirjobs half a Million People<\/a> losing their jobs in half a Million People<\/a> losing theirjobs in london. Their jobs in london. Theirjobs in london. That was a great one. I that was a was a great one. I remember from khan during remember from sadiq khan during that mean, you know, that thing. I mean, you know, the fact is, is that youve only got to look people who got to look at the people who sort welcome his remarks, sort of welcome his remarks, actually. And they are all of them and they are them remainers, and they are basically i would challenge you that briefly. Basically i would challenge you tha what ly. Basically i would challenge you tha what about the public, first what about the public, first of if theres of all, because if theres such a level of disbelief as some newspapers by imply about Keir Starmers<\/a> comments, why is he consistently ahead in the polls . They cant take victory for granted. Victory is not assured. But if everyone thinks keir starmer is talking nonsense or making up in the eu, why do they trust him to be the next Prime Minister<\/a> . Fair point, peter. Trust him to be the next prime mirbutr . Fair point, peter. Trust him to be the next prime mirbut i\ufffd fair point, peter. Trust him to be the next prime mirbut i would oint, peter. Trust him to be the next prime mirbut i would say. Peter. Trust him to be the next prime mirbut i would say thater. Trust him to be the next prime mirbut i would say that they are but i would say that they are way ahead in the polls and have been what it what been for what is it now . What a year and a half or longer than that . Simply because the tories have been utterly hope less hopeless . Hopeless . Well, i wouldnt dispute on that, but lets add a level to that, but lets add a level to that, which is i think its not sexy and i dont know how well it goes on a doorstep. But keir starmer is hes pragmatic, hes sensible. Hes the type of person youd like to have a cup of with. Wants to grow of tea with. He wants to grow the economy. Hes head the economy. Hes not a head banging ideological type like the economy. Hes not a head bartruss,deological type like the economy. Hes not a head bartruss,deol about servants. Its about Civil Servants<\/a>. This is the telegraph this this is in the telegraph this morning its online well. Morning and its online as well. Are servants apparently are Civil Servants<\/a> apparently resentful tens resentful about number tens insistence return to insistence that they return to the Peter Whittle<\/a>, the office . Peter whittle, what do of story . Do you make of this story . Think well, i think, well, i think well, i think, first of working from home first of all, working from home generally of worst generally was one of the worst things happen. For things to happen. Actually for all sorts of other reasons, not even its even political. I think its been terrible society. But been terrible for society. But the service particularly, the Civil Service<\/a> particularly, this a the paymaster general this is a the paymaster general has sort of trying to urge them to go back. I dont quite know why they cant crack the whip a bit more and actually make them go back. I mean, i work in westminster. Its a bit of a ghost town. Most of the time because they take mondays and fridays off. Are they working . Sorry, i dont probably think so. The sorry, i dont probably think so. The other thing as well is not only are they not really working when theyre working from home, also theyre not actually implementing the various things theyre meant to be implementing for the government, which is actually a far more important issue. I think we should go down the american of each time a american route of each time a government comes in, it brings its own people in to basically make sure that its managed. Make sure that its managed. Pesto is carried out because at the moment we have a Civil Service<\/a> which basically thwarts anything that this particular government wants to do. Government wants to do. Well, theyre meant to be impartial, arent they . The civil the Civil Service<\/a> . I dont think really i dont think anyone really even claim that with a even can claim that with a straight face anymore. Edwards, bring you in Peter Edwards<\/a>, bring you in at stage there is a case at this stage there is a case for working home. For working from home. Think people who need i think about people who need flexibility, whether theyve got caring a caring requirement or a disability single parent. Disability or a single parent. They need to pick kids up. They need to pick the kids up. So there is a case for that. But im also conscious that in my career i learnt a huge amount from being in the office. So when a trainee reporter in when i was a trainee reporter in towns in the north of england, being veteran being around, you know, veteran journalists of 20 years experience, hugely experience, i benefited hugely from working from that same working for a Community Organisation<\/a> in london. A dynamism and london. There is a dynamism and a kind of organic sense of learning you get from being around cant get around people and you cant get that kind of peering into that from kind of peering into a dimly lit laptop while trying to kick Internet Connection<\/a> kick your Internet Connection<\/a> back into life. I would. I would i i would. I would agree. I mean, it leads to all mean, i think it leads to all sorts social problems, not sorts of social problems, not least of all sort of loneliness and basically also were very big these days on mental health. I dont think its great for mental health. Think, though, mental health. I think, though, that the general point is that as you mentioned about young people there, how do younger people, when they start in Something Like<\/a> the Civil Service<\/a>, how do they kind of learn the ropes if theyre all working remotely . How do they sort of get to know, you know, maybe go with this way, but not that. Its very, very difficult when its all done remotely. But more the point i dont quite more to the point i dont quite understand why cant insist understand why they cant insist they go back. Its all sort of like urged urging to go like urged urging them to go back. Should go back. Back. They should go back. Edwards i wanted to ask Peter Edwards<\/a> i wanted to ask you about Peter Whittle<\/a>s comments there the civil comments there about the Civil Service<\/a> not being service perhaps not being impartial and thwarting government efforts. What do you make of that . Make of that . I think they are impartial and times in a political and its times in a political cycle when the Civil Service<\/a> come attack. And course cycle when the Civil Service<\/a> ccivil attack. And course cycle when the Civil Service<\/a> cCivil Service<\/a> ttack. And course cycle when the Civil Service<\/a> cCivil Service<\/a> cant and course cycle when the Civil Service<\/a> cCivil Service<\/a> cant speak course , Civil Service<\/a> cant speak publicly, defend themselves. Y publicly, defend themselves. Y you get retired so called mandarins like lord macdonald , mandarins like lord macdonald, the heads of the Foreign Office<\/a> going on tv and radio after theyve given up. I think they are, but weve got to be realistic about it. You know , realistic about it. You know, the Civil Servant<\/a> is not some node or empty vessel that has no opinions. Theyve got their own opinions. Theyve got their own life experience, their own views. Vote at views. They cast their vote at the box like everyone the ballot box like everyone else. Of the civil else. It is a job of the civil Civil Servants<\/a> to with the Civil Servants<\/a> to go with the government the day, but its government of the day, but its also their job to challenge them and candid advice and give them candid advice privately to give you a privately and to give you a couple of quick examples of that, where been on matters couple of quick examples of th. Enormous been on matters couple of quick examples of th. Enormous nationalon matters of enormous National Significance<\/a> , covid lockdowns significance, covid lockdowns and britains involvement in Armed Conflicts<\/a> abroad , it is Armed Conflicts<\/a> abroad, it is vital that Civil Servants<\/a> speak bluntly privately. And i think they do. And ministers just have to it on chin and not to take it on the chin and not slag off in public because slag them off in public because thats rude and childish. Thats rude and childish. Think whats very well, i think whats very rude was lord rude and childish was when lord macdonald, he just mentioned, macdonald, as he just mentioned, there, and said that there, went on tv and said that i went in and told my colleagues the way id voted. Some of them were in tears. But i think that tells you an awful lot about their general attitude to brexit, for example, or not, that we need telling that because we sort of surmise because we can sort of surmise it and to say that its not that it and to say that its not that it is impartial, i think is just to completely ignore the take immigration for example, constant thwarting of any kind of effort to actually make any inroad into this issue. And so inroad into this issue. And so much of it comes to down Civil Service<\/a>, what you might call the blob. I mean, they are part of the blob. Now, how does calling them names help, though . Im sorry, calling them names like the blob. And i know it originated with michael gove, but you dont get best out of people by get the best out of people by calling them names, do you . Well i they they can live i mean, they they they can live with being called names for goodness sake. With being called names for gooi ness sake. With being called names for gooi mean,|ke. With being called names for gooi mean, its not the main i mean, its not the main point is that the civil point here is that the Civil Service<\/a> right, whether at service right, whether its at home its in the home or whether its in the office not actually enact office does not actually enact what it elected governments in this case, this elected government has been put in to do. And i think the american system whereby they bring their own, as it were , Civil Servants<\/a> own, as it were, Civil Servants<\/a> in for a contracted period of usually , what is it, four years usually, what is it, four years in the case of the americans, i think is a very, very good system. I think its a bit like impartiality in broadcasting. I mean, to an extent. But you know, its a nice fiction , know, its a nice fiction, polite fiction. Its not the Civil Servants<\/a> at stymieing governments policy. Its a mixture of the governments own incompetence in its a mixture of the gov courts. Ts own incompetence in its a mixture of the gov courts. To own incompetence in its a mixture of the gov courts. To give incompetence in its a mixture of the gov courts. To give one mpetence in its a mixture of the gov courts. To give one veryence in the courts. To give one very quick example, while rwanda , a quick example, while rwanda, a number of people sent to rwanda zero a number of flights to rwanda, zero, number of home rwanda, zero, no number of home secretaries that time, 3 or 4 secretaries in that time, 3 or 4 numbers of speeches about it, hundreds. Couldnt fit them hundreds. You couldnt fit them all on this bookshelf. Its bad policy. Be rushed out by panicky policy. Be rushed out by panicky , knee jerk reactionist politicians like Suella Braverman<\/a> that mean Government Policies<\/a> dont happen . Its not policies dont happen . Its not Civil Servants<\/a> and the reason the rwanda policy hasnt happened , apart from the fact happened, apart from the fact its wicked and stupid, is because it didnt pass muster when it was tested in the court. So as a neutral judge , that has so as a neutral judge, that has prevented it happening so far. Oh, okay. Well , its been really, well, its been really, really good to have you both with us this morning. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the biggest stories of the day. Peter and edwards Peter Whittle<\/a> and Peter Edwards<\/a> has good to see you has been really good to see you both and thank much for both and thank you so much for your company at home. Were just going few of your going to share a few of your views just before we you. Views just before we leave you. Weve been talking about bovril this apparently, were this morning. Apparently, were getting rid of bovril. Were buying balsamic buying things like balsamic vinegar says vinegar instead. Keith says the best crisps of all were best crisps of all time were bovnl best crisps of all time were bovril not had best crisps of all time were bovrilsince not had best crisps of all time were bovrilsince i not had best crisps of all time were bovrilsince i was not had best crisps of all time were bovrilsince i was a not had best crisps of all time were bovrilsince i was a kid,t had best crisps of all time were bovrilsince i was a kid, butd them since i was a kid, but i loved them and just a word from joe who says, i always have a tin of corned beef on hand for corned beef hash and sandwiches. So do others i know. So perhaps its not on the way perhaps its not as on the way out the daily mail was out as the daily mail was suggesting this morning, but thats it from lets have a thats it from us. Lets have a look what the live desk is up look at what the live desk is up to with Martin Daubney<\/a> and pip tomson. You. Tomson. Yeah, thank you. Question is do todays big question is do you keir starmer on you trust keir starmer on brexit . Political editor brexit . Our Political Editor<\/a> christopher puts that Christopher Hope<\/a> puts that question wes question to labours wes streeting in an exclusive grilling. Grilling. Plus, hundreds of e gate passport control gates. Stop working again, affecting hundreds of travellers across the uk. Are they going to be the uk. Are they going to be fixed for this weekend . Well be finding out. Well well be having a look at that. Youre up next. Of course were back. Well, were not back, but this show is back on monday at 930. See you then. Monday at 930. See you then. A brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news alex deakin here on. Gb news alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. Very different conditions over the next three days. Sun and showers today, a fine day for tomorrow things for most tomorrow before things turn windy wet for some turn windy and very wet for some on sunday. Thats because of this ex hurricane jane tracking towards the uk. This ridge of high will bring most of High Pressure<\/a> will bring most of us day tomorrow. But us a fine day tomorrow. But today low pressure the north, today low pressure to the north, bringing of showers. Bringing plenty of showers. Quite a few of us have had a sunny morning, particularly in the the cloud bubbling the east, but the cloud bubbling up well see more up now and well see more showers the up now and well see more shonuite the up now and well see more show quite wet the up now and well see more shonuite wet across the up now and well see more shonuite wet across northern e day. Quite wet across northern scotland its also quite scotland where its also quite windy, perhaps too not many showers for anglia the showers for east anglia in the south east central south east and parts of Central Scotland<\/a> dry. Scotland may stay mostly dry. But elsewhere it will that but elsewhere it will be that case of one minute heavy case of sunny. One minute heavy shower, the next, and temperatures generally touch temperatures generally a touch below average. Quite below average. Feeling quite fresh there , especially when fresh out there, especially when the along. More of the showers come along. More of those around this those showers around this evening. A lot of spray and evening. So a lot of spray and surface water on the roads if youre heading for the youre heading away for the weekend, showers should youre heading away for the weekpretty showers should youre heading away for the weekpretty rapidly;howers should youre heading away for the weekpretty rapidly in wers should youre heading away for the weekpretty rapidly in mostshould fade pretty rapidly in most locations as this evening. So generally becoming dry clear generally becoming dry and clear overnight. Actually quite overnight. Actually quite a chilly old night. Quite a fresh start to saturday for sure. Could see a touch of frost across parts of the north in in the countryside. So a chilly start. Yes but generally a fine day to come tomorrow, some early showers across norfolk. Day to come tomorrow, some early showquite across norfolk. Day to come tomorrow, some early showquite windy|cross norfolk. Day to come tomorrow, some early showquite windy acrossiorfolk. Day to come tomorrow, some early showquite windy across the lk. Still quite windy across the Northern Isles<\/a> initially, but even here, winds easing. Even here, the winds easing. Generally day of sunny spells generally a day of sunny spells and places will stay dry. And most places will stay dry. But notice the cloud and rain gathering behind again, temperatures mostly in the high teens by for now , a brighter teens by for now, a brighter outlook with boxt solar. Proud sponsors of weather on gb news. Good afternoon. Youre with the live desk here on gb news. Coming up this friday lunchtime where does labour stand on issues like brexit and doctors strikes . Strikes . Gb news is Political Editor<\/a> Christopher Hope<\/a> sat down with the shadow Health Secretary<\/a>, wes streeting, to find out. Well bnng streeting, to find out. Well bring you that exclusive live here on the live desk. Here on the live desk. And the king and queen say au revoir. In fact, theyre the olive just landed. 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