Two of the worst potential prime. Well, we know whos going to be Prime Minister. Its going to be Prime Minister. Its going to be Prime Minister. Its going to be starmer. But theyre just not great, are they. Absolutely. And robert said he thought that keir starmer was having his strings pulled by people higher up in the labour party. So im dying to ask him who he meant by that. Get in touch with us tony blair, maybe gbnews. Com yoursay first though. The very latest news with tatiana sanchez. Tatiana sanchez. Andrew. Bev, thank you and good morning. The top stories. Rishi sunak and sir keir starmer returned to the campaign trail today after they clashed over illegal immigration and the betting row in a Television Debate last night, with just a week before voters go to the polls , the labour leader accused polls, the labour leader accused the Prime Minister of being bullied into taking action in the betting scandal, while mr sunak repeatedly warned voters not to surrender to labours tax and migration plans. The pair also answered questions from an ianed also answered questions from an invited studio audience , with invited studio audience, with one asking how either leader was planning to control illegal immigration. Rwanda plan is a deterrent. You just have to listen to what the Illegal Migrants themselves are saying, one of them just said. Most of us are still in france due to the fear we have about rwanda. Another one said i wont cross the channel until the rwanda plan is destroyed. If the rwanda plan is destroyed. If labour win, the people smugglers are going to need a bigger boat. Dont surrender our borders to the labour party. Record numbers coming across the channel and he says its a deterrent. There are a few hundred that would go on a flight to rwanda, a huge expense to the taxpayer. There are tens of thousands, 50,000 people have come since rishi sunak has been Prime Minister in other news, police are to take the lead in investigations into some of the allegations about bets placed by politicians on the general election. Sir Philip Davies has become the latest tory candidate to be accused of gambling on the date of the election. He reportedly bet £8,000 against himself holding his seat, to according the sun. But there is no suggestion hes done anything illegal. At least five conservatives are being investigated by the Gambling Commission as part of its inquiry into bets on the timing of the july 4th poll. Labour has also been dragged into the row, suspending one candidate after he was investigated by the regulator for betting on himself to lose his seat. Junior doctors to lose his seat. Junior doctors in england are walking off the job today for an 11th time since their dispute began around 20 months ago. Medics are warning that more strike action could take place in the summer if the next government does not move forward. Negotiations in a timely manner. Theyre walking out for five days in their long running dispute over pay, Junior Doctors want a 35 pay rise. The British Medical Association has said its ready to talk, and the union has already had some discussions with the labour party. It says , and there have party. It says, and there have been reports that missing british teenagerj slater has been seen watching the euros football tournament as the search for him continues. The probe has been thrown into further confusion as the tenerife mayor says Spanish Police are examining cctv footage and suggest several witnesses claim to have seen him. The 19 year old has been missing for 11 days now. Yesterday, Spanish Police searched a mountainous area by helicopter with sniffer dogs also being used on the ground. Also being used on the ground. For the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or you can go to gb news common alerts. Now its back to andrew and. Bev. And. Bev. Good morning. This is britains newsroom live across the uk on gb news with Andrew Pierce and bev turner. So its the aftermath. The final Leaders Debate between sunak and starmer. Final Leaders Debate between sunak and starmer. Theres no sunak and starmer. Theres no doubt it was the fieriest. It struck me that sunak has got nothing to lose. The polls are still showing 20 point lead for laboun still showing 20 point lead for labour, one poll actually suggesting yesterday the lib dems will be second and the tories in third place. So he threw everything at it. When you see sunak on the ropes like this, you get a much better version of him because hes panicking. Clearly. Understandably, he starts to come out swinging and weve seen not enough of that because anger is a normal Human Emotion and thats what we see from him at a time like this. And desperation. Whereas previously hes just been playing it so safe and just being such a robot. And yet again, starmer , the and yet again, starmer, the lawyer, the accomplished lawyer, the barrister, the kc who was director of Public Prosecutions, seemed oddly flat footed. Again, very. Which i dont understand because hes got his preordained lines, which hes been given by his team and hes sticking to them. Whatevers thrown at him, who is giving him his lines, though . Thats the question, because hes clearly not talking from the heart. And in fact, the star of last nights debate, i would say, was audience member Robert Blackstock. Were going to talk to him just a moment. This is what he said. What he said. Mr sunak, i think you made a fair job of being chancellor. But youre a pretty mediocre Prime Minister sir keir, i think that your strings are being pulled by very senior members of the labour party. Are you two really the best . Weve got to be the next Prime Minister of our great country. Great country. And robert joins us now. Good morning robert. I bet you had no idea the attention you were going to receive for this question, but just going to the point that andrew and i were just discussing is the fact that keir starmer appears to be constantly reading from a script because somebody is giving him that script, and who do you think that is . Well , i think that is . Well, i think theres two very powerful ladies in the labour party. Rachel reeves and, angela rayner. And i also labour party. Rachel reeves and, angela rayner. And i also think that tony blair is, involved somewhere along the line as well. So they would be my, my guess. And i think that theyre almost telling him what to say, what to do , and, yes, that would what to do, and, yes, that would be it. Be it. And, robert, its interesting you mentioned tony blair because when i heard you make that make the point, powerful people are pulling your strings. I thought, i wonder if robert knows how involved tony blair is in team starmer , because tony blair runs starmer, because tony blair runs an institute, the Tony Blair Institute , which has provided institute, which has provided staff that are seconded to starmers office. Theyve provided policy documents and they are on the phone the whole time. Blair talks to starmer all time. Blair talks to starmer all the time , so does peter the time, so does peter mandelson, who is his, spin doctor. So i think youve probably put your finger on something there. And i think a lot of whats happening here. Starmer is fighting the same general election that blair fought in 1997. Yes, i would agree with that. And as i say, you dont have to look very far through any of the news bulletins or any of the briefings to see that tony blair, his influence is, is there , you know, its there to there, you know, its there to be seen. Why is that . Im just im interested, though, robert. Why would that be a bad thing for you . What is it about tony blairs ethos and his vision of the world that you would find worrying . Well, its not so much that the concern that ive got is that sir keir starmer , he has to that sir keir starmer, he has to be the man thats fronting up the uk. So he has to be the man to make the decisions and not the man thats being told what to say. And thats where i think to say. And thats where i think the problem lies. Interesting, interesting. Dufing interesting, interesting. During the campaign, robert, as you know, starmer has gotten himself into all sorts of difficulties about what i think is probably the most straightforward question a politician should ever be asked. How do you define a woman . When he famously said, when he was asked, can only a woman have a cervix . And he said, its not a straightforward question. He now says hes clarified his position and hes clarified his position after speaking not to a woman, but to tony blair. Yeah yeah, but to tony blair. Yeah yeah, but you say, unfortunately last night, i dont think either of the two leaders gave straightforward yes or no answers to any of the questions. And even when there were sort of batting the ball backwards and forwards between themselves , and forwards between themselves, they they didnt sort of answer each others questions. So it was a bit like Prime Ministers questions, to be honest with you. And its so frustrating for the viewers in that situation and for the electorate actually , and for the electorate actually, robert, if correct me if im wrong, but i think on the broadcast last night you were saying that you dont know who youre going to vote for. The election is a week today. Where are you at now . Im still in the same place, last night didnt really alter my views at all, it didnt swing me one way or the other. So ive got less than a week now to make my mind up, and. But talking with friends, theres a lot of us in exactly the same position, so its. And again, it was on a radio broadcast this morning, and there were people there saying exactly the same thing that, you know, they havent made their minds up. So the landslide perhaps is not there, but it could well be. Yeah. If you had to score it. Robert, last night, who was there a winner or was it an ugly score draw or a nil nil draw. It was a it was definitely a draw. And it was nil nil. It was a it was definitely a draw. And it was nil nil. The draw. And it was nil nil. The neither seemed to do particularly well against the other. And as just to repeat, other. And as just to repeat, they didnt really answer any of they didnt really answer any of the questions specifically. And thatis the questions specifically. And that is what i think really annoys the British Public that our politicians, they say an awful lot of words, but they dont mean anything. Thats the problem. And when you said, is this the best weve got . Sunak versus starmer, do you think the calibre of leaders is in decline . Well, i believe so, yes, and we havent got anybody thats got any charisma. You know, if got any charisma. You know, if youre on the world stage, you know, representing the uk, then youve got to have something that that the foreign journalists and the foreign politicians say, oh, we know who that is. Its the british Prime Minister rather than just being at the end of the queue or the end of the photo shoot, its got to be centre in the right, in the middle and portraying something that is typically british, if you like. So therefore there might be something wrong with our system. Robert, in terms of who politics appeals to, you know, what kind of people out there get to a career crossroads and think, shall i go into business . Shall i go into law medicine . Or i go into law medicine . Or should i go and try and be a politician . So how do we change politician . So how do we change that system . Do you think . Well, thats a very good question because i certainly wouldnt want to be a politician or wouldnt have wanted to be a politician. I wouldnt have politician. I wouldnt have wanted the flak. So, i really dont know. Yeah, its a good question. I really im not really sure how. Because you do have such a Cross Section of people that are politicians. I mean , in nottingham we have mean, in nottingham we have a total variety of people that are members of parliament or were members of parliament or were members of parliament or were members of parliament. All right. Robert . Well robert, good luck with your with your soul searching about whos going to, youre going to vote for next week and thank you for your question last night, because i think it spoke for many, many people, not just watching and listening to this program, but across the country spoke for a lot of us. So thank you for that. Robert robert blackstone, thank you very much for having me on. Pleasure. Great. Pleasure. Great. Thank you. Bye bye. Do you know what i want after the election . I want him to come on and tell us who he decided to vote for in the end. Just that, and im sure our producers will be onto that, because Christopher Hope interviewed him last night on Patrick Christys post debate show. And Robert Robert did say there that he had voted conservative in the past. Yeah and its hes one of those classic current floating voters right now. Do you punish the tories or do you give labour a chance . And its a different mindset when you go into that voting booth. Or do you do a protest vote and vote for somebody else . Yeah. And there will be some people who say theyre so awful, im not going to vote for any of them. Dont do that. Yes, vote for someone. And of course, some people say to me, well, if there was a box which said none of the above, i tick that. Well, you can spoil your ballot paper that is registered. Yeah. The numbers of sport ballot papers are counted up and they will be a toll. And dont forget to take yourid toll. And dont forget to take your id absolutely on thursday. Otherwise you dont. Otherwise you dont. You dont vote. Now up next were going to be speaking to a man who has coached many of our frontbench politicians, graham davis, to give his verdict on the final Leaders Debate. And as robert just said, are they really the best we have to offer . Im afraid thats it for the british newsroom gb its 948. Britains newsroom on gb news with Andrew Pierce and bev turner political presentation. Graham davis is with us. Graham, weve been. Youve been with us from the beginning of this epicly. Interesting. Not general Election Campaign. You saw particularly the first Leaders Debate between sunak and starmer last night, i thought it was much more passionate, certainly on sunaks part. When youre 20 points behind, if you almost threw the kitchen sink at him. But did he win or did he put people off because he was too aggressive . Well, there was certainly no legacy of bonhomie from the first debate. It was all brutality from the word go. It was like watching two actuaries in expensive suits in a cage fight , but in expensive suits in a cage fight, but also this time , fight, but also this time, instead of the moderator having a sort of school mummy, settle down boys attitude, she was a like a referee in a in a some form of combat. She let them go at each other. I thought she was and i thought that was good because actually seeing them arguing was a good thing. But of course , at this stage of this course, at this stage of this quite long campaign, you cant persuade people anymore with facts. You cant move their minds. But i believe you can still move their hearts. And actually, at this stage, the election boils down to this. Its a battle to see which of the president ial candidates is the president ial candidates is the least dislikeable. And the least dislikeable. And thats a battle that maybe keir starmer hasnt definitely won. Starmer hasnt definitely won. But it is a battle that rishi sunak has definitely lost. Because do you think he became over as dislikeable last night because he kept interrupting . Well, he clearly had been psyched up by his team to go for it to go for it, to go for it. Graham, i think weve just lost your mic a moment. Were just going to try and address that. So were well well talk about this, the thing that i was sort of considering, especially having been at those tric awards at the weekend on tuesday, was nigel farage is cutting through with the public. Of course. And with the public. Of course. And why is that . Partly because he doesnt play being a politician. He has much less to lose, you might say. And i was going to say, i think weve got you back. What does nigel do that the other two dont in terms of presentation . He treats things like a cabaret as opposed to a political debate. He prepares effectively. He selects his effectively. He selects his material, then edits it, edits it. And i think he also rehearses. He treats it like an adrenalised episode as opposed to something where in fact, people are essentially reading out pre prepared lines. Isnt that just talking from the heart , though . Isnt that the heart, though . Isnt that the heart, though . Isnt that the difference . Is it that nigels not necessarily rehearsed, he just believes what hes saying. Oh, does he make it look like hes talking from the heart . I think that he rehearses it so well and so professionally that it looks unrehearsed. And indeed, that was epitomised by the opening line of his his closing speech at the beginning of the seven the seven pygmies debate, where he said, unlike the other people on stage, i dont need an autocue because i believe what im saying. But that didnt mean he hadnt prepared it. It meant hed learnt it. And internalised it. Doesnt believe it does. It means that he might be telling the truth. Yes, he may well be. And that that level of rehearsal enhances the truth rather than gets in the truth rather than gets in the way of it. So sunaks people clearly did say , youve got nothing to lose. Say, youve got nothing to lose. Youre 20 points behind one poll suggesting yesterday the tories could come third behind the lib dems. God help us. And, so throw everything at it. Was that the wrong strategy in your view . Wrong strategy in your view . Throw nearly everything at it, but keep control would have been my advice. He was short, sharp, starting to use shorter sent