the sun has come back out. actually the conditions on the ground seem to be getting worse by the hour. a lot of roads like this are becoming rivers. we've seen crawfish, snakes with their heads above the water and a strong current. you can see cars completely under water or just the tops, the roofs coming out of the water. these tornadoes though have not been as deadly as predicted. they were expected to be extremely violent. as of tuesday morning, zero casualties from the tornadoes themselves. that's because people were making quick decisions to save their lives like this woman. >> so i told my son and granddaughter to get in the bathroom. we pulled the mattress in there. we heard boom, boom, boom. it probably lasted maybe 30, 40 seconds. we opened up the front door and i had a pine tree in my front door. >> so a lot of people like her had plans. they're experienced. they go through this every may. the work of the first responders has been tremendous. we've seen local fire departments out pulling off a lot of water rescues. often using high water trucks and roons. many of the people they rescued have been elderly, people screaming for help inside their houses either a tree crushed part of the house or surrounded by water. the water rescues taking place late this morning after a tough night for people in oklahoma. back to you. >> neil: thank you. steve harrigan. adam klotz was warning us about this saying this could be serious. it's lived up to that, adam. what are we looking at now? >> the system is still on the move. yesterday leading into this morning, by the time it's counted up, likely 30 tornadoes. we're tracking this line of storms moving off to the east. now tornado watches in arkansas, stretching to southern missouri, this entire line of storms is going to be a problem. probably won't make another 20 or 30 tornadoes but it's going to continue to bring strong winds and heavy rains that will end up flooding. widespread 4-8 inches of rain in oklahoma, kansas. that as a result becoming a real issue with flooding. across a huge area. tracking this system further to the north, we'll be talking about flooding across illinois. this ground has been absolutely saturated all spring because of rounds of heavy rain and snow further north. this won't help. we're looking at a slow mover dropping more rain. here's the future radar. there's the time stamp. if you're in front of this, pay attention. it will be strong winds and possibly hail. isolated tornado or two overnight, shifting into illinois, michigan by tomorrow morning. all areas to pay attention to. this system has weakened. isolated tornadoes. still talking about damaging winds up to 60 miles an hour. large hail and the flooding issue that we've been saying. that is something that is going to linger today and tomorrow morning also. >> neil: thank you, adam. a lot of people, most people, would be running from tornadoes. my next guest runs at them. >> this is storm chaser aaron. i'm here in nebraska, a tornado on the ground here right now. i believe northeast of mccook. >> neil: pretty close to that thing. here's aaron. you -- you're a risk taker to put it mildly. that looked pretty close. >> yeah, it was close. probably -- looks closer than it was. probably about a quarter mile, half mile away. i tried to get closer and got stuck in the mud and couldn't get in further. there was a farmer's house there. >> neil: why do you do it? >> passion, number 1. i couldn't go out there days after day and chase them across the country and spend hours and thousands of miles a week chasing after the storms. i have a passion for storms and weather. i love being in it and experiencing it ultimately i like to document it as well. part of the documentation is giving the warnings out to the public. i use twitter to get the alerts out. maybe people will see the warning and get out of the way of the storms. also, the national weather service also watches twitter for the reports. >> neil: anything different in these tornados? we're told they're more severe, hang around awhile. cover a wider radius. i don't know what the trust is here. anything distinct about these latest ones? >> tornadoes don't get as big as 12 miles. the biggest are about 2 1/2 miles. the supercells, they can cover counties and they can be 40, 50 miles wide. the tornado itself cover as smaller area. the storms, i don't think the storms are getting any worse than they were in the past. they may be more frequent. i think we see the same strength of storms. the tornadoes are just like the tornadoes they were several years ago. i've not seen anything different with tornadoes right now. >> neil: so when they get the ground, the 12 miles, the area that they cover once they do hit. that is wide. i don't know how true that is. but what is the process? what do you say? it could come at you, for example. but what do you see? >> a lot of times most people, when you're looking at a storm, you think you're looking at the clouds. the deck of the clouds. look for the funnel to come down. you should be watching for that. ultimately tornadoes, they show themselves on the ground. a swirling dust swirl. some people mistake it for smoke and they don't know what they're looking for. you look for the swirl on the ground. the way the storms form, you have wind coming from multiple direction there's. the rear flank downdraft that comes wrapping back behind the storm and brings cold, dry air and that meet warm moist air. they swirl there. that's how you get the tornado to start forming and the rotation in the clouds and the atmosphere is usually horizontal. the updraft from that supercell bends that rolling down to the ground and forms the tornado. >> neil: scary stuff. you're not scared. thanks, aaron. good seeing you. >> no problem. >> neil: be safe. as aaron touched, we've seen more than 50 tornadoes touching down in oklahoma, texas. so is that normal? joe bastardi is with me on that. what do you think? >> it's a rare year. since 2011, an unbelievable season back then. most of the years are at or below normal. this particular year we're above normal. what is interesting about this, in the preseason looking at it, so much warm's predicted by computer modelling across the united states with the exception of arizona and west texas that it had the signature on the models of another low year. i predicted average to below normal. what has happened is and what is fascinating, seems like the long range modelling can't detect cold air anymore. so you look at models that say -- we have climate models that go out two or three months. it's warm all over the place. in this particular case, the last four or five or six months have been brutal from southern canada into the central and northern plains. meantime, it's warm in the southeast. that is the classic setup. cold versus warm. so it's winding up being a bigger than average year. one thing i will say, neil, is the amount of water in the ground. people wonder yelled only 26 tornadoes. had a high risk. it may be that the amount of water in the ground may be capping the temperature just a bit. so we're seeing more heavy rain events, getting rid of the imbalance of the atmosphere through heavy rain, hail, high winds rather than the why spread tornadic activity. i thought yesterday and today have an over and under of 60, 70 tornadoes and we're well under that right now. that is fortunate. >> neil: is that a preview of coming attractions? what we can sort of play out, will happen next? >> well, the core of the tornado season is like we're at the height of the hurricane season right now. core of the tornado season is late may and then starts to diminish after that. looking at the overall pattern though, still going to be a lot of chilly air relative to averages across the central part of the united states. nothing is going to budge that southeast key way that's going on. there's going to be above normal overall the next couple weeks or so. by the way, this current feature is weakening. look out thursday. it comes across the great lakes, slides east southeast and wouldn't be surprising in new york, pennsylvania, western new england if we saw some tornadic activity thursday. >> neil: we'll watch closely, joe. thanks for your expertise. joe bastardi of weather bell. an item just came in. jerry nadler of the house judiciary committee is putting out subpoenas for hope hicks, the former white house communications director as well as annie donnellson. don mcgahn has passed up an opportunity to talk to his committee. redacted version of the mueller's report documented what he called alarming miss conduct an obstruction of justice by the president. others disagree with that. donnellson and hicks were witnesses to this behavior and must be heard from. we'll have more after this. op. turning 50 opens the door to a lot of new things... like now your doctor may be talking to you about screening for colon cancer. luckily there's me, cologuard. the noninvasive test you use at home. it all starts when your doctor orders me. then it's as easy as get, go, gone. you get me when i'm delivered... right to your front door and in the privacy of your own home. tafter that, i'm gone, shipped to the lab for dna testing that finds colon cancer and precancer. cologuard is not right for everyone. it is not for high risk individuals, including those with a history of colon cancer or precancer. ibd, certain hereditary cancer syndromes, or a family history of colon cancer. maybe i'll be at your door soon! ask your doctor if cologuard is right for you. covered by medicare and most major insurers. the nation's largest senior-living referral service. for the past five years, i've spoken with hundreds of families and visited senior-care communities around the country. and i've got to tell you, today's senior-living communities are better than ever. these days, there are amazing amenities, like movie theaters, exercise rooms and swimming pools, public cafes, bars, and bistros, even pet-care services. and nobody understands your options like the advisers at a place for mom. these are local, expert advisers that will partner with you to find the perfect place and determine the right level of care, whether that's just a helping hand or full-time memory care. best of all, it's a free service. there is never any cost to you. senior living has never been better, and there's never been an easier way to get great advice. call today. a place for mom -- you know your family, we know senior living. together we'll make the right choice. >> neil: secretary state mike pompeo updating lawmakers on iran. let's listen in. >> we had a good conversation from the house and the senate. they would like more conversation and like us to be more communicative with the american public. we agreed to do more of that. today i walked them through what the department of defense has been doing since may 3 when we received credible intelligence about threats to our interests in the middle east and to american forces. how we acted on that credible intelligence. that intelligence is borne out in attacks and also deterred attacks. we've deterred attacks based on reposturing of attacks against american forces. the biggest focus at this point is to prevent iranian miss calculation. we do not want the situation to escalate. this is about deterrence, not about war. this is about continuing to protect our interests in the middle east and conducting our missions. >> will you speak directly to iran? >> there's plenty of ways to have communication. i'm confident in that. thank you. >> neil: that was short and sweet. that is patrick shanahan, secretary of state mike pompeo briefing reporters on what they briefed senators. earlier in the day in the house of the representatives about the intelligence that they have that supports the briefed up forces in the middle east. we hope to get a sense of whether the administration succeeded in justifying this upped ante in the region. we want to get you updated on subpoenas. there's more going out. chairman jerry nadler issuing subpoenas now for annie donnellson, the former white house chief counsel has also been subpoenaed to testify and also hope hicks, the former white house communications director. catherine herridge is on top of these fast-moving developments. a lot of subpoenas, catherine. >> good afternoon. the hearing was short and dramatic with an empty seat for don mcgahn. jerry nadler said there will be consequences for reviewing the next steps, including going to court and fighting the administration on the executive privilege claim. >> let me be clear, this committee will hear mr. mcgahn's testimony even if we have to go to court to secure it. we will not allow the president to prevent the american people from hearing from this witness. >> the white house had already instructed don mcgahn not to provide records to the congressional committee based on the argument that the white house cooperated with the special counsel, allowing mcgahn to speak freely about his conversations with the president to special counsel investigators and providing more than a million records. the committee's ranking republican called out democrats, accusing nadler and others of putting speed and head lights ahead of serious negotiations with the white house for mcgahn. >> the chairman issued a subpoena. he rushed to it. it was the third in four months. more subpoenas than the prior chairman issued in six years. >> collins accused the democrats of kicking the can down the road on testimony from special counsel robert mueller. the negotiations continue. collins says his colleagues don't want to hear from the messenger. more on the subpoenas that were issued in the last few minutes, neil, for annie donnellson and hope hicks. annie donnellson is like the note taker in chief when it comes to the special counsel investigation. she was the one that documented the interactions between then white house counsel don mcgahn and the president over these allegations of obstruction. so her notes are really part of the record, the backbone of the special counsel report. hope hicks had a ringside seat as the white house communications adviser and a direct adviser to the president on all of these issues related to russia, neil. >> neil: thanks, catherine. hart to keep track of the subpoenas. judge andrew napolitano has a running count. what do you think? >> i think there's 80 subpoenas out now. i'm not just talking about the judiciary committees. a lot of this is going to be resolved by a court. the argument that was made by the justice department yesterday as to why the president doesn't want don mcgahn to testify is an interesting one. he don't invoke executive privilege. his lawyers have understood by letting don mcgahn to speak to the fbi and testify before a grand jury, the president waived executive privilege. so they have immunity. the argument is this. congress can't subpoena the president. they can't subpoena the president's inner circle and make anyone in the inner circle reveal their thoughts. that's not the same as executive privilege. the question is will it last. the last time the courts looked at this, the president lost and it was harriet meyers. the same situation. former white house counsel, now in private practice. she was white house counsel for george w. bush. after many, many months of the skirmishing, the court issued a well-respected report that says she has to testify. they negotiated and she testified. if i would have lawyers, i would have told him to go there today. i'm here. i respect this body and i respect this subpoena. but i have a client, a former client, not the president, the presidency. that client says i shouldn't testify. so you want me to testify, go to court. doyle whatever the court says. >> neil: he wouldn't be saying anything. >> unless the court tells him to. >> neil: going for the theater of saying -- >> it shows respect for the body that issued the subpoena. the courts like to see that kind of respect. congress is a co equal with the presidency and the judiciary. when you show respect for that authority even if you don't do respect, you show them respect, you get a leg up. >> neil: let me ask about where this goes. seems that the president or the so they stop each and every one. is that the strategy? 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he talks about this every minute. >> he has not hit full mode and the tv ads -- >> neil: what can explain this dichotomy? >> there is a frustration what you see in the gallup survey but encouraging as a republican operative, 57% of those surveyed of democrats support socialism. 57%. that is going to push whoever the dems nominee further to the race. if this election comes up between socialism and economic freedom, my money is on economic freedom all day. >> neil: you have that high percentage of democrats and more than 43% of just general voters, of that opinion a higher percentage of independents of that opinion, you would have to be worried, right? >> not really. quinnipiac put out a pole that said 77% of the americans believe the economy is good or excellent. what trump has to figure out, take his ballot number and move it closer to people feeling better economically and take credit for that. >> neil: that is that effort. the economy is doing so well that people entertain the socialism issues because they think we can afford it. >> that is true. but the question of how the economy is doing is different than the stock market. >> neil: i can leave the stock market out. i can look at record low unemployment, strong productivity -- >> at the same time, that's not going to go on forever and there's a lot of concerns -- >> neil: we live in a world we live in. right now it's strong. >> if we enter -- >> morgan stanley had a report that if we enter a full blown trade war, we'll go quickly into a recession. >> neil: would have, should have. people have been bemoaning this for 14 months. >> the president has always had approval ratings under water. he's never been above 50. voters can have a several level of cognitive dissonance. they can vote for someone even if they're not in love with them. >> neil: it just happened in australia. we'll see. >> democrats have done a good job of focusing on the people that are struggling more like student debt, people with healthcare decisions especially since republicans bungled healthcare so badly. >> neil: good day, mates. see what i did there? 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>> certainly they want to deter iran from doing something stupid. to do that, we want to show that we have the capacity to attack them if need be and we have the willingness to do it if we have to. nobody wants to do that. why want them to stop the activities they've border patrol agent doing. we know we have the sanctions and the increasing pressure against them. they're feeling the heat in iran and feeling the heat in terms of the money they've been giving to hezbollah and hamas. the money is not just there anymore. >> there's been reports that china is more than happy to get their hands on that iranian oil. any concerns about how china might be complicating this? >> of course, iran has part of its income is selling oil. we have increased sanctions on that oil. that's why iran is feeling the pressure. i know china would love to be involved and get that source of energy. energy is the master resource for a reason. clearly what the united states has done with sanctions against oil, against their metals has impacted their economy and the ability to fund the terror they're used to funding. >> neil: i'm going to explore this later but i'd love your thoughts on justin amash, the michigan republican congressman that thinks there's impeachable evidence in the mueller report. what do you think of what he said? >> he's one man that has his own personal opinion. i have a very different opinion from reviewing the documents. no collusion. none. no conspiracy. none. to me, this is over, it's beyond us. if the house of representatives wants to do what they seem to want to do, which is travel the path to impeachment, let them. there's no appetite for that in the united states senate. >> neil: do you have any sense as a fellow republican, obviously you disagree with the congressman, that the party is going too far in its attack line that he expressed his opinion, and that there may be a chill between he and the white house? it's not the first time. but they're promising to primary the guy from departing from the president seems much. what do you through? >> anyone can get into a primary. i was home in wyoming. i hear nothing about, this i hear from people we have a strong, healthy economy. let's keep it going and doing the things that the republicans have been doing in terms of lowering taxes, let people keep more money and i hear people say don't take away the health insurance i get through work and don't put me on a one size fits all insurance plan. >> neil: so you're not hearing anything about congressman amash? >> not a thing. >> neil: do you hear anything about the president slapping down all of these subpoenas for his administration officials to talk to congress? some are saying that it's concerning them that he could be setting up may for perfectly valid reasons a constitutional crisis. what do you think? >> that's not come up with my colleagues. we had a full lunch discussion on trade and the importance of what the president is doing on trade. these other things have not come up. as far as the senate is concerned, this -- the investigation is complete, this is over. >> neil: we just mentioned a survey that shows socialism in a number of americans that embrace it is is surprisingly high. 43% is. that a surprise to you? >> once you talk about what it means, which with is one size fits all health insurance, people losing their medicare advantage, losing the health insurance from work, when they see what happens and you saw this in the elections in australia, people don't want to pay higher taxes and higher cost of living. they want to deal with what's going on in their own lives. the definition of socialism, once you explain what it means for people in this land of opportunity where the government can either crush or create opportunity. taxes and regulations, which is what socialism brings make it harder in a land of opportunity to do what we like to do with a strong and healthy economy. >> neil: thanks, senator. great catching up with you. now to chicago after the break, a major protest going on outside mcdonald's corporate headquarters. it has nothing to do with the minimum wage and whether it gets to $15 or any wage. it has something to do with a legal issue after this. don't tell your mother. dad, it's fine. we have allstate. and with claimrateguard they won't raise your rates just because of a claim. that's why you're my favorite... i know. are you in good hands? 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"the five." a new gallup poll says four in ten americans embrace socialism. we should gasp at this. i'm not surprised it's not higher. the fact is, people that know what socialism is, those that fled socialist countries, they're getting old. many are dying. the knowledge of such horror goes to the grave. they're being replaced by the lowest form of life