Well, something amazing has happened. The World Health Organization just endorsed the swedish approach. So what does that say, but the very nonswedish lockdown is currently paralyzing her country and it says a lot. We will explain in a minute. But for us tonight and update on the side of general Michael Flynn. Like so much else it has happened recently in america out the flynn story lays bare the architecture of control that has been present just beneath the surface of this country for a long time. For reasons we still dont fully understand, Michael Flynn deeply offended permanent washington somehow so they destroyed decided destroy them. They trapped him on a complete s perjury charge. When he resisted they threatened to hurt his son until he signed a confession. It sound like something that happened in china, but it happened here in our capital city of washington. Weve known that for a long time. But we didnt know is that there was an extensive written record that proves all of this happened and in fact the truth is worse even then we guessed. Fbi agents decided to close her investigation into Michael Flynn and his ties to russia. After much searching they found no derogatory information about flynn. So it was over and he was in the clear. But it wasnt. Peter strzok demanded that the investigation stay open until the bureau could invent a crime and crush Michael Flynn. In the end thats what happened. There is nothing worse than this. Until the secret police operate in third world dictatorships and thats exactly how peter strzok operated and then he lied about it extensively. Listen to his greasy selfrighteousness and congressional testimony two years ago. Not once in my 26 years of defending our nation did my personal opinion impact any official action i took. This is true for the clinton email investigation, for the investigation into russian interference and for every other investigation i worked on. It is not who i am and it is not something i would ever do, period. I understand that my sworn testimony will not be enough for some people. After all, americans are skeptical of anything coming out of washington but the fact is after months of investigation there is simply no evidence of bias in my professional actions. Tucker what an oleaginous liar, he should be in prison, really. If they treated their officials the way they treated their opponents he should be serving a sentence for everything he just said. Pretty much everything he said in congress was perjury. Instead the fbi continue to let peter strzok metal in american politics, and our democracy. The one they claim they are protecting. Instead of grossly negligent, the distinction was between a crime and not a crime. They let he let them off the hook. In january of 2017 it was peter strzok who took the bogus investigation going. Hey, he wrote to a colleague on january 4. Dont close a razor. It was the internal name for the Michael Flynn investigation. That very same day he sent out a 14 page document about an obscure law called the logan act. The logan act has been around for 200 years and it bans private citizens from conducting diplomacy foreign country. No one in American History has been convicted of defiling the logan act. In fact the law may be unconstitutional but none of that mattered to peter strzok. The logan act was the weapon to besbash Michael Flynn. That same day he texted his girlfriend razor still open, serendipitouaserendipitously go. At this point it was over for Michael Flynn. The fbi arranged an interview but had no idea what was coming. Fbi officials plotted to get him to lie so we can prosecute him or get him fired. It worked. When stated the fact, the fbi had spied on that phone call so he knew. Flynns life was over and his family was destroyed. In late 2018 after he had cashed in on his book bragging about himself, from fbi director jim comey he laughed about how easy it was to set flynn up. Look at this white house now and its hard to imagine to fbi agent setting up in the same room. How did that happen . I set, consent them. Something i probably wouldnt have done or wouldnt have gotten away with in a very organized investigation, a more organized administration. I thought its early enough, lets just sent a couple of guys over. And so we placed a call to flynn and said we are sending a couple of guys over. I hope you will talk to them. He said, sure. Nobody else was there, they interviewed him in a Conference Room at the white house situation room and he lied to them and thats what he pled guilty to. What did he think they were coming over therefor . I dont think he knew, we didnt tell him. Tucker its all pretty funny. Destroying someones life and destroying his family because they are in the way of the power you seek. He would have to be a dark, cold person to chuckle about Something Like that and jim comey certainly is the darkest in the coldest. We want to be clear at this point that we are not personally close to Michael Flynn, hes not some secret friend of the show. It isnt about one man comforts about our country. You dont want to live in a society where the most powerful agency in government imprisons people it doesnt like, that is horrifying. People come to this country to escape it, and it can happen. It could definitely without question happen to you. The story matters, and we will cover it in some detail tonight. Joining us is bret baier. Brett, thank you for coming on. From my perspective we have not covered this very closely on the show for the past three years because its confusing and, what are the ramifications of it do you think politically . Tucker just think about this for the fbi during those times. This has been a horrible few weeks when it comes to those revelations. Think about when it came out as the lack of exculpatory evidence being put into these fisa requests. Thats a separate issue, and in the handwriting, are we getting him to lie so we can get him fired . Thats written down. Now, what wasnt written down . We dont know what wasnt written down but we do know that the former fbi director on that book saying he didnt go through the white House Counsel or white house in any way and in fact other documents show that andrew mccabe, his deputy, advise flynn not to get an attorney. So he didnt have representation and they didnt say why they were going to go interview him. And heres the kicker. They had the transcript of the call with ambassador kislyak. They knew exactly what was said. So it wasnt just a talk between governor officials, they were there to get him. Tucker so youve covered politics in washington for decades and you know how things actually work. Its pretty striking to read that a Law Enforcement agency is listening in on a phone call without the knowledge of the National Security advisor. Is this common . No, not that we know of. But we dont know what we dont know as far as that administration and the transition. I think theres a lot that we have yet to learn about the early stages of that investigation. But just at this point, we flip it around. We ask questions and some kind of set up like this, what would be the Media Coverage of that now, if it wasnt a Trump AdministrationNational Security advisor like Michael Flynn . Arguably we are learning more and more as time goes on. The problem is, you cant go back and change the time that we were in then and think about all the coverage that engendered that moment . Tucker a lot of people in washington are willing to excuse tactics and that has been very interesting. Bret baier, thank you for that perspective. Great to see you. These new documents are the latest proof that from the very beginning, director jim comey saw his office as an independe independent. Thats not an overstatement. In his view he was not subject to the president s authority or to anyones authority and thats why he believed he could lie to his boss and hide things. He even bragged about doing it. Did you tell him that the steele dossier have been financed by his opponents . I dont think i used that term. Did he have a right to know that . That it had been financed by his political opponents . I dont know the answer to that. It was unknown to him that we had this information. Tucker it wasnt necessary for my goal, said jim comey. Imagine living in a country where the guy in the largest and most powerful Police Department in the world can decide to do exactly what he felt like doing. With no effort whatsoever. Its terrifying. Just like any other sleazy politician he thinks nothing of beating ridiculous rumors about his enemy to the press. I honestly never thought these words will come out of my mouth, its possible. But i dont know. Tucker Jeff Sessions was president s first attorney general and he is now running for the u. S. Senate. Thanks so much for coming on. Though you worked with jim comey and i technically work for you. What did you make of jim comey . And these notes and that video you just showed of him bragging about him really violating traditional policies and the department of justice before interviewing the National Security advisor of the United States of america, just a a few days after he took office. When he was swamped with a million things to do and the agents came in and softly warned that it could be a violation of law. Those notes go back to comey, when they talked about conducting this interview. As he said they sent them in and wouldnt have done it against obama and wouldnt have done it against bush. He was in the first days of this demonstration and thats why he did it. I think as this is evidence, and then it was a set up, perjury trap. Its really clear. And its important, jim comey was the leader of it and these agents would not have done it if you havent set them in and i think he bears grave responsibilities. At that time he took over the clinton case and Just Announced that there would be a prosecution totally apart from his power as fbi director which is just defined facts, not to impact policy in america. Its really not a bad thing it is important. Tucker let me ask you something. It sounds like you had real concerns. Did you ever voice your concerns to the president about jim com jim comey . Well i dont talk about what i tell the president , but i think people knew that i felt that he should not continue from virtually day one of the administration. When i was asked by the president about it it didnt take me 30 seconds to say, my recommendation is that he be removed. Tucker let me as ask you quickly, but why did the fbi and so many in washington want mike flynn off the stage and in jail. While president obama said to President Trump that he should not keep flynn, and that was his number one advice to him. There were lots of people who did not want him there. President trump liked him and he got elected and in that interview happened before i became attorney general of course and i wasnt aware of it in any way. But i would just say, yes. There was hostility to the general flynn and if you look at the interview it does appear that he had a plan and if you acknowledged what happened, they would say he violated the logan act. If he didnt, they would accuse you of perjury. That was not the way to treat somebody. The white House Counsel, and thats the key member of the president S Administration and the National Security advisor. He of course lasts about how he got around that. Tucker is shocking. You should never treat anyone that way. Thanks for coming on tonight. Thank you. Thanks for coming. Im going to ask an openended question which is to assess what you think would happen. I will go to the why question which is the most important one. I think you have to understand that flynn was not the objective, he was the obstacle. Trump comes into office with really a bunch of novices around him and flynn was unusual in that he was a seasoned intelligence professional. Why is that important . Well, what is the Obama Administration and they will continue the investigation because the quarry here is not flynn, its trump. So in order to continue the investigation while trumps president , they have to be able to conduct it under circumstances where the president has the power to cut it off. The most Important Documents in what we saw today are the emails from the days right before the january 24th interview. They talk about doing a defensive briefing for flynn, and the idea is you would go in and you would tell him about parts of the trumprussia investigation, crossfire hurricane. Not because they wanted to but because they understand he is the National Security advisor. He knows how the Intelligence System works and he knows how the fbi interacts with it. Hes going to find out that we investigated the trump campaign. So the idea was lets give him a defensive briefing and use it as an opportunity to interview him and maybe monitor him and then go into the white house that tells him everything and destroys the investigation. So if he tells him about the investigation, the investigation is over. So it goes from it defensive briefing to a perjury trap. But they needed him out of there, because they thought that the other people including the president , theyd be able to handle. But flynn was not somebody that they were going to be able to continue this investigation if he was the National Security advisor and i think they thought they needed him out of here. Tucker thats a smartest and most plausible explanation thank you, i needed that, its bothering me. Good to see you. Speaking by the way of political prosecutions, we told you several times that roger stone was set to report to prison in a faraway state. He received a call at the bureau thing that has been kicked down the road for a month. For many weeks now americans have faced censorship and even arrest if they promoted the same coronavirus policy is used in sweden. Now, amazingly, the World Health Organization can see that sweden was right in the way it it approached it. So why have our leaders been telling us the opposite and what does this mean . More after the break. Nowadays you do more from home than ever before. 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The World Health Organization prays the governmen dom academid the government of china because china did a model bigger than the entire city of new york city for two months. The Top Health Official said we had no choice but to follow suit. Our politicians agreed and threatened to arrest anyone who didnt obey their orders. Not surprisingly most citizens dutifully complied. As a lockdown spread across the world one country stood apart from the rest, sweden. Unlike almost every western nation come sweden steadfastly refused to lockdown. Restaurants there estate open and so did schools, and life remained for the most part fairly normal under the circumstances. Now our media normally extols sweden as a paragon of wise policymaking, they love sweden and always have, soft socialism. And yet on a dime they turned. Suddenly we were told that sweden was in fact a corkscrew and. Jeff basils personal newspaper the washington post. Sweden girds for thousands of deaths. Swedens government is trying a risky coronavirus strategy, it could backfire, wrote vox. Com. Its the very same publication that any suggestion that coronavirus came from a lab had been debunked. As always, vox was confident, smug and totally wrong. At a briefing yesterday, michael ryan, executive director of the w. H. O. s Health Directive programs of this about sweden. I think there is a perception out there that sweden has just allowed the disease to spread and nothing could be further from the truth. If you act to reach the new normal i think in many ways sweden represents a future model and, sweet and now the model. After a months month of sustained hysterics, praising the lockdown policy in which people were locked outside of their apartments until they starve to death. After an collectible damage to hundreds of millions of families, the World Health Organization is now telling us almost casually that actually our model should be sweden. Now who was a man we just saw speaking. Just two months ago this guys model was not sweden, it was cambodia. Watch this. And most parts of the world, most of the transmission that is happening in many countries now is happening in the household and family level. In some senses transmission has been taken off of the streets and pushed back into family units. Now, we need to go and look in families to find those people who may be sick and remove them and isolate them in a safe and dignified manner. Tucker oh. So we are just going to go into peoples homes, presumably