President trump gave a thumbs up to the investigation. Investigate the investigators whether its strozk and page, whether its clapper and whether its comey and all of these people. Because terrible things went on for our country. This was the worst hoax in the history of our country. Mark he may be right about that. For two years, media and political elites in washington went all in on the russia collusion conspiracy theory. They spent the last day shrieking that this investigation is actually the real conspiracy. Its alarming because we know trump is itching to publicize the Justice Department. Conspiracy theory that they are trying to deflect attention away from, the entire impeachment proceedings. Everything we know about this is totally bogus. Vladimir puritans got to be loving it. Absolutely. Whats going on with barr and giuliani are trying to do, thats not real investigations. Its deeply troubling what bill barr is doing. Rather than attorney general of the United States. Absolutely. This focus on relitigating what happened in 2016, the election, is that what got the administration in trouble in the first place . It is and its a conspiracy theory. Mark Andy Mccarthy is a former f just the author of a splendid book, all the collusion the plot to rig an election and destroy a presidency. Andy, mr. Durham like you are is a federal prosecutor and presumably he wouldnt be put on this case if there werent at least the potential for a criminal prosecution at some point. Thats right, mark. We are all hammers and every fact pattern is a nail. The whole point of assigning a prosecutor to something is to look at it in terms of whether a crime was committed. I actually be quite surprised if anything in their daytoday function in as its been going on the last several months is any different today that it was yesterday. In fact, ive had a chance the last couple of months to go around the country and talk about the book. I think what wouldve actually surprised people is if you had told them the day before yesterday that durham was only doing an administrative inquiry. I think of what he expected that this was being looked at like a prosecutor looks at a case. Mark one thing thats new about this is weve heard all these reports about cia employees lawyering up. For the last couple of years, the fbi has been in the front line. When you look at it from the overseas and mack with these am i six characters , alexander downer, who ran australias secret Intelligence Service when he was the foreign prime minister. Their connection with the United States would be through the cia, wouldnt it . In that sense, yet. The cins is the cia on the hook here . Its your hood, mark. When you look at this and the full continuum of the investigation, the fbi and Justice Department are almost late to the party. This actually almost started as strands of foreign intelligence that came in to the government through the cia and that ended up with the bureau because the cia acted as a kind of clearinghouse board. It really goes back to the second half of 2016 after trump gets into the campaign. Its always been kind of a misunderstanding to look at it as if it were one investigation up until the very end. It was really about foreign intelligence and, you know, every place we operate in the world, particularly all the activity in the investigation that took place in britain, we cooperate with the Foreign Government in those places where there was a lot of forward activity here. I think thats where the real collusion was. Mark there is talk about actually sending subpoenas to brennan and clapper, who were the highest figures in the obama intelligence bureaucracy. Is that because the theory there is slightly more than you would think, which isnt that for intelligence came in, but that these guys in washington essentially outsourced elements of the operation to m icex and others and let it fell back to. Are we going to actually see cia directors and National Intelligence directors giving sworn depositions . I think you might end up seeing them as witnesses by congress in various proceedings that were relevant to this a lot of what i quote in the book comes from his own testimony. This is not like and he figures out with the ca is up to. He also what he didnt say in his testimony he said on msnbc. I would think they are very relevant witnesses. Do you think hes actually perjured himself and lied as seems to be cleared to most of us . I never tried to get out in front of that. Lets see what durham has. Barr has. I think will get a window into it within the next three weeks or so as i anticipate will finally get this inspector generals report. Mark thanks for that, andy. Michael flynns Attorney Says she has proof that the fbi derivatively and trapped her client and that the plot to entrap him went all the way up to then director james comey. Foxs Gillian Turner is on. Thank you, mark. Attorneys for President Trumps former National Security advisor Michael Flynn is claiming the government is withholding evidence of his innocence, Attorney Sidney Powell filing an explosive new claim alleging that fbi agents manipulated official records from flynns 2017 interview which led to charges being arrested by investigators. Now urging the court to dismiss the entire prosecution for outrageous government misconduct and hold the prosecutors and contempt. This is latest in a series of attempts made to get the case thrown out after pleading guilty lying to the fbi on december 1st of 2017. In this 37 page long court document, highranking nfl officials orchestrated an ambush interview of the new president s National Security advisor. Not for the purpose of discovering evidence of criminal activity, but for the purpose of trapping him into making statements they could allege as false. Powell also insisting that this is no paranoid conspiracy, dilution. The origin of this case is an fbi interview when flynn was asked about the conversations, but the former Russian Ambassador said ultimately pled guilty about those conversations about tell that part of former special counsel muellers investigation into President Trump. Federal prosecutors had back, calling the defensive filings so far, a fishing expedition. The defendants new counsel sought to get the charges dropped, and perpetrated conspiracy theories. All while stating the defendant does not intend to withdraw his guilty plea. Now specifically, flynns lawyer says fbi officials tampered with the fbi 302 form. Thats the document agents use to summarize interviews. They are not saying, mark, who exactly they think manipulated that forum. Mark thats very interesting, gillian. Actually, those 302 forms are quite ridiculous and at some point the fbi should get rid of that and move into the 21st 21st century. Buck sexton joins us. Whats interesting about this is the legal pleading here makes it look as if they deliberately at the highest level set out to create the conditions in which general flynn would commit a socalled crime by misremembering as it were. This builds hereditary what we already know. This could have been a logan act violation which anybody knows that its not a crime anyones been charged with. It was really an ambush interview. They try to make sure he did not inform white house counsel, make sure that he was not prepared for this, discover and see the fbi agents lied or thought he was lying, where they hiding of exculpatory evidence after the fact and trying to use that they were able to pressure general flynn into a plea bargain right away, and now its all open with. A federal judge can say hold on a second, maybe we need you need to take a look at this, hold people in contempt on the prosecutorial side, and they should drop all charges and drop the guilty plea that general flynn has already entered. Mark may quote at the top of their brief this case from 1921, which basically says Law Enforcement should not be going around essentially inventing a crime to find someone guilty. Thats actually not the job of Law Enforcement to do that. Whats interesting is the attention to detail they did in an trapping of general flynn, including what looks like taking their own rules. Like these 302s which is a stupid thing anyway but its meant to be written within five days of the actual event, and its clear from Peter Strzoks socalled 302 is that he coughed it up sometime after. One time i knew when i worked at the nypd, never speak to the fbi without a lawyer present. You have to really be careful. Why was afterthefact notes be treated as enough in this case . There are no allegations those notes may have been tampered with, added to, some key context. How is that i left to get someone on very specific lies when the whole problem here is whether or not the person remembered accurately based on their own recollection what they have been asked about . Why not take these interviews, by the way . Its just quite bizarre, which is why some events counsel insist on taping everything at the fbi. Mark you dont even need to go to radioshack and buy a cassette recorder and a more. Everyone. Mark thats the problem here, flynn was broke and he agreed to and did the thing youre meant to do with the feds. He settled. Of course. There is a degree of embarrassment as well. Hes a National Security advisor, served his country for 30 years honorably. Now hes being called a federal felon. He wants to move past this and move on, but he can only base his Decision Making at this point in the information that should have been presented that would be exculpatory for him and if the allegation is true, the fbi has good files, exculpatory information should have been presented before he made this plea and that was enough, people should be accountable for holding it back, just ask the family of senator ted stevens what thats about, and they should be a judge looks at this and says maybe this whole thing was a sham. I think the information points towards that. I think the whole thing against flynn should be dropped. Mark i agree with you. Thank you for that, it is time for somebody to do some serious work of quitting up federal justice. As buck said, this has happened before. Elizabeth warren is the latest democrat candidate to promise an aggressive gun grab as president. Wait until you hear what shes planning to take from you. Thats just ahead. First, at another country to the growing list of geographical hot spots contemplated is accused of shady business in. Hunter biden is accused of a shady business in. Thats next as we continue. Devices are like doorways that could allow hackers into your home. And like all doors, theyre safer when locked. Thats why you need xfinity xfi. With the xfi gateway, devices connected to your homes wifi are protected. Which helps keep people outside from accessing your passwords, credit cards and cameras. And people inside from accidentally visiting sites that arent secure. And if someone trys well let you know. Xfi advanced security. If its connected, its protected. Call, click, or visit a store today. Mark it may be easier to make a list of countries that hunter biden isnt accused of corruption in. First it was ukraine, china, kazakhstan, and the United States. New questions about bidens legal work in romania this time. Well, his father was supposedly fighting a corruption in the country, and by coincidence hunter was this time providing advice to a real estate tycoon accused of orchestrating a corrupt land deal. On 60 minutes, joe biden try to dismiss the scandals involving his son by saying, dont worry, his son is not going to be a part of the new Biden Administration. If im president , elected president , my children are not going to have offices in the white house. They are not going to sit in a cabinet. You should make it clear to the American Public that everything you are doing is for them. Mark yeah. Dont worry, because hunter wont be in the white house. Hell be on the board of some company in the south sandwich islands. Enemy larson is a political reporter for the Washington Examiner and joins. Emily, why would somebody accused of a crime, a terminal real estate deal in romania hire a lawyer who has the surname biden . Hunter biden was hired by this lawyer because of his connection to joe biden at the same time joe biden was pushing against corruption in romania. He was pushing against corruption in ukraine. Joe biden can say he doesnt want his children to be serving in the white house or attending board meetings, but hes also being judged on what he did when he was Vice President of a heartbeat away from the presidency. He wasnt able to answer at the debate last week why it was okay to have a sudden serve the position was Vice President but doesnt want them to serve like that when he is president. Mark the way hunter seems to follow daddy around the globe, so biden is made the point man and next thing you know hunter is getting 50 grand a month from some ukrainian company. Next, biden becomes the point man on romania and suddenly an accused man in romania is extremely eager to hire Hunter Bidens mediocre legal services. Isnt it this synchronicity that smells ridiculous here . Certainly, strain synchronicity. The biden pluralists say they did nothing illegal and did nothing wrong. There is a lot of interpretation whether they did anything wrong. Theres a lot of democrats who think may be biden shouldve interviewed when his sons business dealings kept him from this appearance of a cooperative interest, though not a direct conflict of interest. I think its not only is he tangled up in this legacy, big, powerful, big legacy democrat type dealings, but hes also lacking in fundraising, he has frequent stumbles on the campaign trail, and a lot of democrats are looking to see if they can find somebody better. Mark i dont know why hes lacking in fundraising, because you think Hunter Bidens stint in burisma would help that. Speaking of democratic evidence, Elizabeth Warren has revealed her guncontrol plan, as you might expect it means less freedom for you, more power for her . Should be doing background checks, we should be taking weapons of war. It is a good idea. Mark senator warren adding her voice to whats already on the agenda for every type democrat candidate. Two gun owners out there who say, well, a Biden Administration means they are coming for my guns. Bingo. You are right if you have an assault weapon. I do believe that we do need to do buybacks and ill tell you why. They are weapons of war. With no place on the streets of civil society. Yes, we are going to take your ar15 familiar ak47. They will not be used against fellow americans anymore. Mark Elizabeth Warren is joining the party. A former army ranger, snapper, attorney, firearms advocates, and he joins us. Thanks for that, ryan. Let me ask you this because she is proposing to do things like increase the tax on ammunition. For example, it would be up to 30 . It in effect treating it i guess the way we do with gasoline and cigarettes. And gradually making it prohibitively expensive. Something you have to think about buying. Absolutely. Its disgusting. We already have an excise tax on firearms and ammunition. Thats already a huge burden on the firearms industry. Why should people that dont necessarily support guns care . Its because its a fundamental right. We are taxing if in the mental right and by making things more expensive, all you are guaranteeing is some people that might need a firearm for selfdefense the most that can afford it no longer have the opportunity. I think its horrible. Mark the thing about it is doesnt seem to bear any relation to what is used in these mass killings that everyone is upset about. If you look at the Virginia Tech one for example, that was handguns. Absolutely. Mark the same with the parkland shooting. If you look at what ms13 are doing, they are terrorizing communities all over the United States just using machetes. This seems to be one of these other less things in order to get this guy or other guy, you are going to be ensnaring thousands of legal, peaceful gun owners. Exactly right. We like to point out that criminals dont like to obey laws. Even beto orourke was caught like that where he would have no answer to make criminal obey laws. The tolerant left, when they attacked me after i appear on here, they say should we give up them, should we have no laws and give up her criminals placement thats not what im saying. When i say criminals dont obey laws, i dont say lets not have laws but i say lets make sure the laws we are putting in effect arent unduly burdening lawabiding citizens like these kind of laws well. I dont even know what a weapon of war is. Its scary to me when i have so many politicians out there calling for socialist principles that tend to lead to bad outcomes or countries and their people, they are jumping straight ahead and trying to ban the guns now. Mark something change with the democrats. Go back to john kerry 15 years ago, if he was campaigning in rural states command you to make a point of going and being seen duck hunting, somewhat implausibly. I think hes the only chap ive ever known go dear shooting in New Hampshire crawling along in his belly which isnt the way most of my neighbors do it. They seem to have abandoned those gestures. They are becoming an especially antigun party. Definitely right, mark to go back that far, a year ago i was hearing, we arent coming for your guns. Not everybody is trying to come for your guns. I sympathize a little bit. Dont get me all the hate mail for it. I think they are trying to do the right thing. None of us wants mass shootings, none of us what the criminal misuse of firearms. I hope the heart is in the right place but they are horribly misguided on ho