Over this idea. The attorney general of california Javier Becerra says he will choose the Trump Administration over this change. Becerra says asking people whether or not they are citizens is somehow unconstitutional. Watch. Given the way that this administration had attacked immigrants, you can understand why immigrant families would be afraid to fill out the census questionnaire. In our lawsuit we argue this decision by the Trump Administration violates the constitution and federal law. Tucker well ari burman of javier magazine. He got so worked up about the census question he described the change as, quote a huge crisis for democracy. Oh, come on. Nobody actually believes that nobody believes the lines like that even the redfaced people who scream them. The left doesnt care about what is or what is not constitutional. Did you watch the gun march this weekend . Obviously they dont care. A crisis for democracy . If you really cared about democracy, representative of democracy, you would be vigilant about preventing voter fraud the left abets it in state after state including in california so illegals get drivers license so they can register to vote. Democracy, please. They hate the fact you took some of their power by voting for donald trump. They want it back by any means necessary. Thats what this is about obviously. Caesar vargas an attorney and illegal immigrant. He joins us. Thank you for having me. Tucker counting citizens asking whether they are continues how could that be constitutional when the constitution requires you count your citizens . We are talking about the constitution. And republicans and conservatives are all about the original intent, the founding meaning of the constitution. Well, the constitution explicitly states that we need an actual enumeration. In other words, an actual count of the whole persons in each state. Never said anything about immigration status. Never said anything. The purpose is to count everyone in the United States regardless of immigration status. So thats perfect. As a person of who approves of original intent, you would understand that that we would need to count everything and abide by the constitution. Tucker hold on. Constitution at this moment. Tucker i know you are lecturing me on the constitution. But does this change, say, that you are not allowed to count people who are noncitizens . No. It says take a count. Its one of the many questions. The constitution by the way since i know you are familiar with it doesnt say anything about counting people by race. The census does that. Should we not ask what peoples race. Under this administration we have been very clear about its about targeting immigrants. Tucker hold on, slow down. Wait, hold on. Im not going to let you read your bumper sticker. Stop, stop you, stop. I want you to answer my question because i think its a fair question. You dont think that the census form ought to be able to ask people whether they are here illegally or citizens or not. Okay. You do think it ought to be allowed to ask them what their genetic makeup is . What their race is . Why . We should have a very simple document that says hey, how many people live in your home. How many people have an opportunity to live in the fate . I think thats simple. Im not putting aside the politics about. Tucker hold on. Im not going to let you dodge it a third time. Hold on. What about their race . The census asks what your race is i think its creepy as hell to be honest because your race has nothing to do with any choice that you made. Something you are born with you about the census asks it and it asks it because the left demands it asks it. Do you think the census ought to be able to ask race. I think we should have simple count. No. Maybe we shouldnt have. How many people live in your house . Thats it. Whats what the constitution requires. Its all about allocation and representation. Tucker what about male or female. Is that unconstitutional, too. I think if a person wants to designate im a male or female, let them answer that question. Tucker hold on. That wasnt the question. The census asks are amman or aru a man or woman. Nonhispanic white. Africanamerican, are you indian. Now its going to ask are you a citizen. Only one of those questions bothers you not because of the constitutionality of it but because you think it might dilute the political power of illegal aliens. Lets stop pretending its about the constitution eye agree it should be counting people not on. Voting power. The census. Tucker do you know what . Lets take the race questions off. The constitution says hey we need to count people. If you are a male tore female, great. When you talk about representation. Tucker what do you mean great . Slow down. Why is it a difference . Its a different story because you think it might dilute the political power of illegal aliens who i could add, im not a lawyer like you, shouldnt be here in the first place. But you are not bothered by sex or race. So lets just stop pretending. Lets drop the that sad and stop playing the stupid game where we pretend its about your concerns about the constitution of a country that you are not even allowed to be in because i think you are here illegally, too. Its about pure political power. Its about one side trying to take back power from the other. And like lets be adults about it. Can we do that or keep it that shows its a concern of you that you are afraid if you count undocumented immigrants thats going to dilute your power. Its not about power. Its about simple representation. The fundamental principle. Its about equal representation. Tucker no. That we all have a voice. You know the constitution is not just about citizenship. Tucker okay. Citizenship is the basis upon which we determine political power. Citizens have political power, noncitizens dont. Thats the difference. If you want to distill citizenship to a citizen there have you it. So, yes, i do want to dilute the political power of the citizens of other countries. I dont think that russian citizens or nigerian citizens or citizens from the sea shells ought to be able to vote in my elections. Thats constitutional, thats the definition of constitutional. Thats not what america stands for. What america stands for is that you can be 100 percent american but you can be 100 percent mexican, african. Tucker no, actually, citizens. Are you really a lawyer . And by the way american citizenship and mexican citizenship and french citizenship. Thats the crazy thing about how beautiful this country is about. Tucker you are not allowed to not have citizenship and vote. Been a question we have been asking as we have been abetting your legal stay in this country. Do you plan to vote in the next lebsz election . You live in california. They will let you vote. You are illegal. Do you plan to vote. We are talking about counting. Tucker are you going to vote . A simple question. Now you are talking about i do believe we should have universal voting for everyone to ensure that everyone has. Tucker for citizens of other country . Who should be able to vote here. No taxation without representation. Tucker so everybody in the world who comes to the United States and buying a deck of marlboros and pays the sales tax is entitled to vote. If that person comes here to contribute to the country, let him have a say in his government. Simple as that. Tucker let foreigners vote. I hope the Democrat Party runs on this. Caesar, thank you for being honest. Thank you,. Tucker secretary of state of state of kansas he has been following these issues closely because he cares. Mr. Secretary, thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me, tucker. Tucker explain to us why its important to know whether or not people counted by the census are american citizens . There are a million reasons why. The first and foremost is that any sovereign nation needs to know how many citizens it has. The second is that all kinds of statistics require us like unemployment is a tis particulars, knowing how many of the people in the United States are citizens and how many are noncitizens, meaning aliens both legal and illegal. Then we have to know apportionment. If congress decides as it should to stop counting illegal aliens, we need to know how many are in each category. Its absurd that states like california have an inflated number of representatives in congress because they have so many illegal aliens. So, there are so many reasons. Let me quickly respond to your previous guest. I couldnt stop laughing. His notion that its unconstitutional to count citizens, ask people if they are citizens or not. Look we started doing this . The 1820 clean success. The Founding Fathers were still alive in 1820. If it was unconstitutional to ask are you a citizen they would say dont ask the Citizenship Question thats unconstitutional. The second thing is the Supreme Court ruled in 1964 from west bury vs. Sanders that diluting the voting of u. S. Citizens which is what happens when you count the illegal aliens in a district, that is unconstitutional. So. Tucker i wonder if conservatives make a mistake in having constitutional arguments of people who think the constitution is fundamentally illegitimate because it was written by slave owners in the first place. This has nothing to too with the constitution. I doubt Javier Becerra knows whats in the constitution. He doesnt care. Its demagoguery to take power from people they dont think should have it, voters, dont you think . Yeah. I think. So and you hit the nail on the head when you said look its all about power. Why the left apoplectic notion we would be counting citizens again like we have done through our countrys history. They see this potentially could threaten the inflated number of congressional seats. Again, the Trump Administration cant do it unilaterally it would take an act of Congress Next to say apportionment should not count illegal aliens. We should have done that decades ago by the way. Tucker thats for sure that and a lot of other things. Mr. Kobach, thanks for joining me. Great to see you. My pleasure. Likewise. Tucker this is a fox news alert. The Orange County board, in Orange County, california has voted to join the Trump Administrations lawsuit against california and its sanctuary state law. Sandra hutchins is sheriff of Orange County and has fought that law by publicly posting the release times of illegal immigrant immates. California a. G. Javier becerra said he may have sheriff hutchins arrested for that, watch. State law is state law. And its my job to enforce state law. I will do so. And we want to make sure that every jurisdiction, including Orange County, understanding what state law requires of the people and the subdivisions of the state of california. Does that mean the lawsuit against the sheriff or arrest of the sheriff . I think i just answered that okay. Thanks very much. Tucker sheriff hutchins joins us tonight. Sheriff a lot of people opt east coast are just waking up to whats going on in california. It seems like we are moving towards a crisis here. Is that the way it seems to you . No. Its not a crisis as a sheriff of Orange County i feel responsible for the Public Safety of the citizens of our county. Tucker yes. Sb54 does not allow for that so i have started yesterday posting the names and dates of release of all of inmates publicly accessible to all of the community and that is well within the law provided by sb54. Tucker right. What i meant by crisis is you are chief Law Enforcement officer of the county, chief Law Enforcement officer of the state. The attorney general is threatening to arrest you. I have never heard of anything like that happening in any state, at least in my lifetime. Yeah, and i havent, either. And i find it interesting. Maybe he better read sb54 again because i dont think he understands what the law says and what im doing is entirely within the confines of the law and im doing what i think is important for my constituents. Its a Public Safety issue to me. Its not about immigration at all. Its about individuals who have committed violent crimes. Let me just give you some examples of some individuals we have had to release. How about sex with a minor. Child cruelty. Domestic violence, i mean, i dont think i could sleep at night knowing that i had let somebody go and they go out and commit another crime with those kinds of charges. So, i am doing something well within the law that helps me to nofe notify ice alog with the community on when individuals are being released. Gives ice an opportunity to pick up those individuals who are in custody for serious crimes. We are not talking about misdemeanor crimes. Tucker i understand. We are talking about serious, violent crimes. Tucker you are acting out of obviously a moral imperative nonpolitical. Its your job description. How would the attorney general arrest you and what will happen if he tries . Well, i wouldnt advise it. If he is going to arrest me, then, he better have some good charges because im going to get an attorney and i will fight it but i would be very surprised if mr. Becerra decides to make a move like that and arrest a sitting sheriff for following the law just because he doesnt like what im doing, that is not enough. Im following the law and im trying to take care of my constituents here in Orange County. Tucker so i wonder why other Law Enforcement officials in other parts of the state arent doing what you are doing if what you are doing is consistent with California Law . Im not sure. I think some are doing other things but, you know, im not going to speak to that i think there are other jurisdictions that are doing what they can to legally under the confines of the law as it sits today, doing what they can to protect their communities. The sheriffs in the state of california fought this senate bill from the very beginning. It states that we cannot use any resources to communicate with our federal Law Enforcement partners which is just ludicrous. Tucker well, its dangerous as you pointed out. Sheriff, thanks for joining us, i appreciate it. Absolutely. Thanks for having me. Tucker well, in the wake of the antigun walkouts, the California Teacher was suspended from her job for daring to ask a simple question. Could antiabortion protesters do the same thing . 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Tucker almost every news outlet is pretty aggressively supported recent gun control protests for providing one sided forums to protesters to push their view and excluding anyone who disagrees or in fact attacking them for questioning the decency of children, how could you . Monday afternoon msnbc went further than that one of the reporters outright urged his viewers to go online and sign a pledge to vote for antigun candidates. It happened. Heres the tape. There is also a push called parents promise to kids that encourages voters to sign a contract vowing to vote for candidates who, as they describe it, put child safety ahead of guns. Im joined by two of the students who started parents promise to kids. Again to those watching you can check out adam and zacs contract at their website parents promise to kids dot ogbueze. Download it, print it sign it and post it. Good luck to you all. Wish you well in your effort. Tucker how long before they are sending out directions to planned parenthood, probably not long. Supposedly marches against guns are about speaking truth to power even though they enjoy massive support from virtually everyone in power. Lawmakers, school administrators, the media, the business community, basically every billionaire on the planet decided to protest another issue though thats not aligned to the people in power who would like to take your guns away and keep them for themselves. Disempower you if they were and see what happens if you try to challenge the conventional view of anything. Jillian tried to do that for a moment she teaches history at rock Land High School in california. She was placed on leave by her school after she questioned antigun walkouts and wondered what would happen if the school was faced with antiabortion protest. Would they be so supportive of that . Jillian benzel joins us tonight. Thank you for coming on. I appreciate the invite. Tucker its an amazing story. I wonder if i misstated it in any way. You said hypothetically would you support a prolife walkout and they punished you for that . Pretty much, tucker. A real discontextually i wanted to make sure my students were informed i had a pressroom miss they were not. Most of them had no idea about the protest. I gave them an oversue. Asked them to look at it on their own and most importantly you just mentioned parents. I said go talk to your parents. Im a parent. I would want to know if my students decided to get up and walk out of class for any protest. And i received no backlash from my students. These are highly intelligent kids. Its a great school actually. And they understood it. But, somehow it got to administration that did i not fall in line and follow the herd and they took it upon themselves to put me on administrative leave wednesday morning of the protest. Tucker did they explain why . Are you you are not allowed to question the orthodoxy . Did they say that out loud . Is there another pretext to this. There was a pretext. To answer your question, they did not tell me why. They just called me at 8 30 in the morning. I arri