Amateur criminologists. Remember that . The frenzy spun out of control. Soon, liberals were not simply talking about a stolen election but about war, actual war. If russia is going toal keep attacking america, then america really should fight back. There is an entire buildingic in st. Petersburg filled with a Russian Troll Army creating thousands of tweets, memes, news sites comments and flatout fake o stories designed not to take sides on any issue but just to get us fighting about it. Hillary clinton spent overto A Billion Dollars on the campaign, and the russians beat her with 150 grand because they were able to turn facebook into fake book. Bl tucker so you are accusing a Nuclear Armed adversary of committing an act of war and you are doing it purely in order to gain an advantage in a domestic political dispute . No normal person would do that. Its too reckless and crazy. L
with the more than 100 million Hillary Clintons familyo foundation took from uranium one Board Members . She was the Secretary Of State at the time. U maybe. Just a guess. At some point, we will find out for sure. Thats the upside of the hysteria over russiane. Collusion. Its Unintended Consequences will be fun to watch. Because when you make up a fake scandal, you never really know where its going to go. Richard goodstein has seen a lot of fake scandals. He has been in d. C. A long time. He is a lawyer who has advised both of Hillary Clintons president ial campaigns. He joins us tonight. Great to be back. Tucker i was thinking you know, russia obviously is the greatest geostrategic threat in this country. I know that because i listen to the democrats, all my neighborst and i wonder if this has caused you to rethink the position democrats had for 70 years when the soviet union existed where they made excusesd for the soviet union and prevented Missile Defense from being built in this country. Are you rethinking that . Is Anyone Atoning for that . Because i watched it, and that happened. Yeah, i dont think thats a fair characterization. I think what this uranium one scandal, pardon me if i put it like that, shows me that the u people pushing this feel like the noose of mueller is tightening. Otherwise, no selfrespecting person, based on the facts, not an ounce of uranium has been exported. Tucker untrue. The price has dropped by two thirds since this was passed. Theres zero evidence, not withstanding the republicans controlled the house andnd senate and could have investigated fairly well, not one stitch of evidence that Hillary Clinton had anything to do with it, didnt even know about it, nor should she have. Tucker i agree with that last point. The republicans could have investigated and they didnt, and thats a fair question. Its hard to believe that youre going to defend that decision signing off on the uranium one deal as a policy matter. Knowing what you know about russia, was it really a good idea for the Obama Administration and the Secretary Of State, Hillary Clinton, to approve a deal giving the russians control of 20 of our Uranium Supply . Why was that in our interest . Again, none of this will ever the Nuclear Regulatory commission keeps this from
being exported. Tucker that is absolutely false. You are wrong. Where is the evidence on that . Tucker the Nuclear Regulatory commission hass conceded that that material has left wyoming, which is where the deposits are mostly in the united states, and left this country. I they have no Export Licensees as printed in the New York Times. That material has left. So, my question is, you know, first of all, who is surprised by that . The federal government, they cant keep track of anything . Why was this a good idea . Why did hillarys office and the Obama Administration sign off on giving the russians a fifth of our uranium . So, again, i will tell you i do not subscribe tom . Your facts and the evidence i is that at our ports, one thing we monitor for is fissile nuclear material. Tucker it went through canada. You can read the New York Times about it. Why was it a good idea to allow, to sign off on this . Again, as your audience should know, there were 9, 10 different federal agencies that all had to sign off. Tucker obama agencies. They all signed off. Why . Of course. They did it was noncontroversial. Tucker thats not a good reason. Why was it in americas interests to give a fifth of our Uranium Supply to the russians, which you are now arguing constitute the greatest threat we face. Some has left the country. A fifth hasnt. Tucker they have control of it. Why is that a good idea to give a hostile power 20 of our Uranium Supplies . Its insane. There is no shortage of uranium. O thats why the price has dropped. Tucker so it is a good idea . The price has dropped. Why . Because natural gas is so cheap that Building Nuclear power plants frankly doesnt make sense. Tucker that is not the concern. The concern is not that this uranium will go to build Nuclear Power plants. Ken. The concern is it will be used for offensive weapons. Thats the concern and the fact that a fair amount of it, according to the New York Times, has been exported off this continent. Not just to canada but off this continent. But heres the point. You are not going to answer the question. I cant find a Single Person who will defend this as a decision made by Hillary Clinton and
barack obama and others in that administration. Why would you do this . And im saying it wasnt a decision made by them. Tucker yes, it was. It was made by people in w agencies that they ran. The fact is, again, there is zero evidence. This was raised a year ago, again. Tucker so they didnt know . How would Hillary Clinton not know if a Russian Company was getting 20 of our Uranium Supply. What was she doing . That is the central fact, conjured fact, that people who are promoting this story have to hold on to. That hillary either was derelict in her duty or knew. Neither of which is the case. Why should she have known . In the fact, the fact of the matter is, as this case the foreign law that deals withr approving or not approving the export of material, thats something that doesnt rise to the level of the secretary, her or eric holder or the president. Tucker what you said rises to the level of nonsense. O the guy who founded uranium one was a board member ond their Family Foundation board, gave over 100 million to the clinton Family Foundation. Right. Tucker they just kind of didnt know. I think it was over 150 million. Frank weister. You just didnt notice that the company he founded is about to go through the Regulatory Approval process with the agency you run . The Clinton Foundation spent its money largely to tackle malaria, aids, childhoodap obesity, poverty and women empowerment. Tucker how is that going . Have people gotten a lot thinner . Millions of people have benefited from this. Tucker [laughs] go to africa. You can laugh here in northwest washington. Go to africa. The fact of the matter is so that is a scam. If russians are underwriting that, we pulled one over on them. Tucker can i ask you a question . T my final question because sadly we are out of time. You are going to say with a straight face the guy who founded this country gave over 100 million to hillarys Family Foundation, that Company Needs approval from her agency, and yet she was somehow unaware of this . Fa on a topic thats inherently important to American National security. My answer is people in the State Department were under oath by the
republicans in the house and senate and two to one, there has been zero evidence to suggest it got to her attention. Let alone she was one of 10. Tucker the fact that her husband was taking half a Million Dollars in speaking fees from the russians, that didnt come to her attention . Either that or you haveol widespread examples. Tucker this is a tough one to defend. I will give you aminus mostly for effort. Thank you, richard, thank you. Tucker Victor Davis Hanson is a fellow at the hoover institution. D Professor Emeritus at the University Of California at fresno. One of the smartest people in the state of california. Also author of the second world wars. He joins us now. Mr. Hanson, thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me, tucker. Tucker i think we can both agree and any sober witness to this whole nonscandal over the past 11 months would also agree we havent found collusion between the putin government and trump campaign. What have we learned from
this hysteria over russia . I think we spent 95 of our Investigatory Resources congressional, independent, media, political and we came up with nothing on the conclusion. Collusion. Hi 95 of the narrative whether it was the steele dossier which involved Taking Theel Fifth Amendment Behind Closed Doors so that Devin Nunes House Intelligence Committee or the unmasking and leaking in which one member, who was unmasking claims now that the numbers that were masked did not match the times that she did it, in the case of samantha power. Now we have the uranium one deal. We have the podesta deal. So what we are seeing is the investigators are being the investigated and because there was never a collusion and the reason the Trump Administration begs the question, tucker, was this anger, hysteria . A, as you, i think rightly surmised, anger over the lost
election that was blown or b, an effort to overturn the election by impeaching Or Denigrating Trump to such a degree to be ineffective or c, was it a preemptive active effort to disguise a lot of exposure in these scandals that we have talked about . Your prior guest was sort of, with all due respect, absurd, his logic is sort of Drunk Driving is not a threat until you actually kill somebody in a car. Ri Drunk Drivers pose no threat because they havent killed anybody lately today. And we dont really have 20 of our own uranium. Ay we only have about 5 . Of that 5 , thats used to generate about 20 of our electricity. So we are dependent on a company thats now controlled by russian interests. We should ask your guest, does he really think that ifif bill clinton went to moscow he would get 500,000 today . Es or does he think that the Clinton Foundation would receive a donation of 145 million today from russian interests . To me, thats absurd. The only reason they got that kind of money, because they had something to offer. That was to green light, as
you said, the authority of russian interests to gain control of uranium. They thought it was at least in their strategic interests. All part of the reset effort by the Obama Administration. Tucker i think its a great question. Richard goodstein has not made it out of our studio yet. I will put him on the screen and pose him the question do you think if he went to moscow today, he would be getting 500 grand for a speech . He is getting money like that all over the place, certainly well past the point that hillary was no longer a candidate. Tucker you really think when you have got a deal of this magnitude and importance going through and the former president , whosepo wife is one of the people signing off on the deal,l, gets half a Million Dollars for a speech, i think weeo both agree thats insane. The people who pay him ws expect nothing in return . Was it insane when Ronald Reagan got 2 million from a Japanese Company . Tucker if he gave them
20 of our Uranium Supply. What you say is and i hate that fox is doing this, Doesnt Subscribe to the free market. Tucker no, i dont always subscribe to the free market, actually. I think there is such a thing as greed. Not every manifestation of capitalism is morally right. Some of them are disgusting. Prostitution is wrong. Thats the market. Im against it. Was reagan prosecuting himself . Pointing to big Dollar Numbers of speeches by the president. Tucker do you think its fair to put Ronald Reagan in the same category as clinton . No. Reagan wasnt selling anything. He was out of office. The whole donation was designated that Hillary Clinton was Secretary Of State and likely be president of the united states. You can ask your guest this year, next year or the year after, the Clinton Foundation is going to get 145 million from russian interests. The answer is no. They had something to sell. Thats what they sold. They dont have anything to sell. So by their own calculation, they have no market value anymore. H
the market is adjusted. There is a market, but its not there is a free market. But what he fails to point out, its not a Crony Capitalism Market Thatre clinton indulges. Now they are in the free market and there is no motive to deal with them, so they are not going to make any money. Tucker good point. Professor hanson. Were out of time. He thank you for the market lesson. Richard, i know you agree. Absolutely. Tucker up next, the firman behind the Infamous Trump dossier is fighting to keep its records secret. Why would they be doing that . What would those records reveal . In a minute, we will talk to a lawyer at the center of that case. Stay tuned. T over the course of 9 days. Steve chooses to walk 26. 2 miles, thats a marathon. And he does it with dr. Scholls. Only dr. Scholls has massaging gel insoles that provide allday comfort to keep him feeling more energized. Dr. Scholls. Born to move. Dont take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren. If youve had angioedema while taking an ace or arb medicine, dont take entresto. The most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high potassium in your blood. Tomorrow, tomorrow. When can we do this again, grandpa . Well, how about tomorrow . Ask your doctor about entresto and help make tomorrow possible. Tucker remember the trump dossier, the mysterious, totally unverified document that was made public by buzzfeed . Si it included both scandalous allegations about donald trump as well as claims that the Web Company Webzilla was a front for russian hacking of the dnc. It was like a parody of a scoop. It was so juicy it had to be true. Except it wasnt. Since the dossiers release, webzilla and buzzfeed tre battling it out in court, fusion gps, the company that may have created the dossier is fighting efforts to open its books. This week, the companys executives pleaded the fifth f to congress. Why would they do that . What could they be hiding . Is there an innocent explanation . We have a Founding Member of a a Boston Law Group representing webzilla in all of this. Thanks for coming on tonight. So, this is one of those stories that central to the russia scandal and hysteria around it, maybe the most interesting thing we have
seen in the 11 months of all of this and yet undercoverred by the press. Bring us up to date really quickly on where we stand now. Youre representing a company libeled by the people who wrote this. This how does fusion g. P. S. Play into it . Fusion g. P. S. Is the party that hired christopher steele, the british mss spy who wrote the dossier. It would be interesting to know who was fusion g. P. S. Representing in this transaction. In other words, who hired fusion . Ng who is fusions client . . What was the underlying purpose of the work that fusion has done. And so we sent a Subpoena Ofof our own to fusion, which they are also trying to fight in court in washington. And i understand that their folks took the fifth which tells me you cant take the fifth unless you have air reasonable cause to believe that the evidence you would give would put you in harms way. So that you would actually be admitting to some kind of a crime and begs the question what is it that they think that they did wrong . Ha tucker maybe that they are protecting they may be protecting the person who paid them. Now, i dont know the answer to who paid for this dossier. But i can tell you, which you may know already in washington, is universally believed to be a major republican donor, who was unhappy with trump. Do you know, do you have any evidence as to who paid for this . We do not as of yet. We will we are looking for it. But, again, yes, they are clearly trying to protect the identity of their client. How is revealing that identity a crime, however . In other words, Pleading The Fifth Doesnt Just youri cant simply plead the fifth because you dont want to reveal some information. Have you got to think that so i kind of view this as well, a Neighborhood Boy was hired to
throw a rock from your window and you now want to know who hired him and the bully doesnt want to tell you. Thats kind of where i see fusion. Tucker whoever hired fusion gps to do this to hire steele and write this dossier did so in order to derail the trump campaign. Would there be another reason you would do this . I dont see another reason, and certainly from my clients lawsuit, this would be actionable important evidence because its up to us to prove, since were the plaintiff, that the agencies the allegations are completely false. One way to prove it is to show that the entire motivation for that document was something nefarious. Tucker so i dont understand. This is probably a much longer conversation and we have only got a minute. If you are investigating the russian collusion story andnd you are a congressional committee, or you are robert mueller, wouldnt you want to know who paid for the dossier . Wouldnt that be one of yourto first questions . Well, of course. From that point of view, maybe the russians paid fusion and, if so, they
should admit to it and i suppose then fusion might have a problem with everything, including treason. Tucker thats a good point. We will find out who paid for that dossier. Its going to be fascinating. Im working hard to find out. Tucker thank you, val,l, great to see you tonight. Thank you. Tucker nancy pelosi led the Democratic Party to defeat after defeat after defeat. Basically her fulltime job. She says getting rid of her would be, of course, sexism. Well talk with someone who agrees with that next. E,
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maybe we are misinterpreting. We are always open to that possibility. They havent responded. For some reason, most Media Arent Badgering Waters to explain. We know this because waters was interviewed two hours ago by msnbc. He didnt even bring it up. Imagine if this had beenen a year ago and a republican congressman said i look forward to taking out barack obama, how do you think that would have been treated . Well, nancy pelosi has taken the Democratic Party to four straight defeats in u. S. House elections. She has played no small role in the partys defeat last november at the National Level which, as you know, was shocking to them. Perhaps its time shel stepped down and give another leader a shot. But no, pelosi said she has got to remain in office. She has to. Not for any reason relating to political vision or acura acumen. Pelosi deserves to stay inec charge, she says, because she is a woman. The president invited us to dinner and some of the Cabinet Members who were at the table. I was the only woman at the table. And thats why i have to stay there to be the one of the top women top people at the table. Tucker cathy areu is the publisher of catalina magazine. She joins us tonight to explain what nancy pelosi meant. At thanks for come on. Thanks for having me. Tucker she says you need me because im a woman. N. Leaving aside the fact there are a lot of women to choose from. On the hill. Why is her Gender Essential to the job. Thats not the only reason. She has been in political power for 30 years now. She is a great leader. Ore she is great at what sheor does. She is a wonderful role model for women. So she didnt exactly say that she can be the only woman at the table. But she happens to be thehe only woman at the table. Tucker she said that t its important that im a woman. Its important there is a woman at the table. Tucker why is that important . Because of thent demographics of this country. 51 of the country are women. We should have the demographics of our politics look like our country. Tucker no, thats not true. Thats not true . Tucker according too modern Progressive Orthodoxy there are 63 different genders now. Not just men and women. Not binary, cathy. Keeping up with this stuff. Im sorry. Us tucker i think its insane, of course. But you are required to believe it. If there are 63 separatete genders. Then we should have them all at the table. We should have many genders at the table. W tucker just same old man, woman, man woman. Why shouldnt we give someom other gender. Fabulous. Wh we should start with having her at the table and lets invite the other genders at the table. E. Lets keep nancy pelosi. She is smart. She is great at what she does. The players on her team want her to lead the team. They want her to be the captain. The dnc chair supports her. The chairman supports her. Her caucus supports her. Tucker but in real life, look, she held her democrats together for the Healthcare Vote in the first obama term. That was impressive. I agree with that. Very, very. Republicans cant do that. T. Tucker you are right. She lost a historic number of
seats for doing that she did a good job there. E. She has had no victory since then. You know as well as i, i talked to a congressman about it today. She is not going to get to 218. If democrats win in the midterm, she is not going to i be reelected speaker because she has failed again and t again and again. Everyone in d. C. Knows that those losses cannot be blamed solely on nancy pelosi. Tucker not solely. So many other factors that play into that. Tucker okay. I mean, look, pulling the woman card is a little bitit weird to me since we live in a moment where were told as a matter of official orthodoxy, my kids learn this in school, that you cand change your gender just by saying so. Okay. Ou tucker so in a world where can you change your gender just by saying so, why is it important to be a specific gender . Its meaningless if you can change it just by saying so, isnt it . So then we should have a woman and all those other genders at the table. O tucker why is it meaningful to be a woman if a woman can change into a man by snapping his or hero finger, which is what we are supposed to believe. If she leaves, then we have all the men back at the table and we are back 50 years. We need her there. She is a step forward in the right direction. Losing her is a step back. Tucker okay, try to put a finer point on this. What about being a woman or a man or a member of the other 61 genders makes you a different and better leader than if you werent . What inherently about being a woman . . You have a different perspective. You have a different viewpoint. You see things differently. We need as many people to come to the table so we see things differently. Thats what our country is made of. W we all just cant be the same white guys sitting around the table because we are afraid to invite anybody else to the table because men happen to be afraid of women in power. E i mean, thats a fact. Tucker democrats are . I live with four of them. Im not afraid at all. No . Tucker im wondering though. You are talking about democratso she is not elected by republicans. But the g. O. P. Loves to take shots at her. Tucker the republicans doesnt like her. The public doesnt like her. Last question. She lives in one of the richest zip codes in the world. Just like trump lived. Tucker thats fine. Im not here to defend trumps zip code. Im just asking, do you really think that nancy pelosi represents all women . Well, absolutely. She is not bought and paid for by anyone. El tucker your faith is childlike and impressive. Media dont hate trump. They dont like or understand who voted for trump. Thats the real story. Up next, we will talk to the former head of npr who thought a lot about this and decided to spend a world outside of his world in red state, america. And came up with a very different view than he had going. Its a really interesting story. We will be right back. Right as i was stepping into the tee box mentioned a tip a pro gave her. No. Yep. Did it help . It completely ruined my game. Well, the truth is, that advice was never meant for you. I like you. You want to show me your swing . Its too soon. Get advice thats right for you. Investment Management Services from td ameritrade. Quote the media have been harder on trump than any other president certainly that i have known about. The big driver of that hostility could be an unprecedented divide between the American Media and the country they write about. Ca ken stern was ceo of Npr National Public Radio and distinguished member of the liberal bubble himself. As a longtime democrat, he realized he didnt know that many conservativet republicans he did what no one ever does travel country to meet people who think different from them on their e own terms. He has a book out called republican like me. How i left the liberal bubble and learned to love the right. Ken stern joins us tonight. What does your family sayet when you say i want to get out there and meet people who vote differently. They thought i was crazy. I live on a nice democratic street in washington, d. C. And my house is 100 democrat. My wife and 10yearold son was not were not too approving of this notion and i suspect my neighbors werent either. I went out and reallyg saw a world i didnt know of. And it was remarkable experience. I learned tons about republicans, about the country as a whole. And thats really the source of the book. Tucker we do segments all the time about the divideme and increasingly no one ever talks to anybody they disagree with. What were your First Impressions about this new world . One of the impulses for the book was a notion that we have actually become much more geographically and culturally divided than ever before. 10 years ago, there were about 1,000 landslide counties. Counties that one party won byby 25 or more. This time, 2500. Increasingly dividing ourselves so one side doesnt know the other. I think going in, i had a typical democratic attitude g not very flattering towards republicans. I sat in churches. You sent me pig hunting in texas. Tucker that was my recommendation. Recommendation. It was a great recommendation. Tucker meet any liberals pig hunting in texas . H maybe the pigs. But no one else. It was just a remarkable experience. I met people who i never would have met otherwise. Led remarkable lives. Served their communities. Who had deep thoughts about the way their communities and their governments should work. I learned a ton from them. Thats really the experience. Tucker funny thing is you told me about this book a couple years ago. I thought it was a really cool idea. Now it seems like a completely radical idea that no one would ever do. How do you think having done this and been in the media so long this divide effects the way that we cover news . It seems like most people who work are in the press are from one america but not the other. Yeah. I think its a fair criticism. M i think, so i was at npr for a long time. I still know that the people there try to tell a balanced story. But what i never gave credit for until this time is that they live inside a certain bubble. We all do. And it drives what stories are important and what source they look to. How they think about the story. And its enormous challenge,e, i think for media. Because it means that they dont tell the story of half of the country. I think thats really whats missing from mainstream media. Tucker i think thats right. There is very little cultural diversity. I actually learned something as somebody who has spent his life hunting around guns. I didnt know how often guns were used defensively. Yeah. Tucker by law abiding people in this country until i read it from you. Its an interesting thing. Op all the issues i plunged into. Climate change, poverty programs, and guns, i really learned a lot from people, from experts i wouldnt ordinarily talk to. I talked to john lott about guns and learned enormous amount about them. E Gun Homicides in this country have gone down by over half in the last 20ic years as the number of guns in this country have gone up. We spend time talking about gun control. We dont actually talk about the things that actually drove Gun Homicides down over the last 20 years. Why dont we talk about that more . The interest of the story, i didnt even know the term
defensive gun use before this. And the Department Of Justice ends indicates this happens 60,000 times a year. D Florida State study says about a million times a year. Tucker but a lot. Either way. High end, low end, it happens a lot. I actually found stories, i told one of them in the New York Post this week about o how people use guns to protect themselves. Ut its an important part of the gun story. Y. Not spoken about very much. Tucker you wrote about a store clerk who repelled a a robber with gunfire. Walks out, knocks the guy down with a bullet. Re cigarette in his mouth andut says castle doctrine, baby. Modern day Clinton Clint eastwood. Tucker what a great book. Good for you doing that i dont know anybody else who would do that in your world. Thank you. Thank you, tucker, for your help with the book. Tucker i love it. California is about to punish people more than using wrong pronoun than deliberately spreading disease. Are you woke enough . Thats the next segment. Stay tuned. Eryones got to list. When it comes to reducing the sugar in your familys diet coke, dr. Pepper, and pepsi hear you and were working together to do just that. Bringing you more great Tasting Beverages with less sugar or no sugar at all. Smaller portion sizes, clear calorie labels, and reminders to think balance. Because we know mom wants whats best. More beverage choices, smaller portions, less sugar. Balanceus. Org
radio host he joins us tonight to explain how exactly this works. So, law ethan, thank you for joining us, especially on this topic. Thanks, tucker. Tucker law sends a clearus message what our values are. Not just who we want to put in jail but who we believe. It is worse to call someone by the wrong pronoun than it is to deliberately infect someone with a fatal disease. That seems like an inverted Value Structure to me. Well, its not worse. And im not quite sure where the year is coming from in terms of punishment and, off course, thats up to the judge. But what we have is something called elder abuse is what happens. As our demographics change the law needs to keep up with that. If you want to be called something, shouldnt i as basici human decency, call you what you want to be called. Tucker i do that. Thats not what were talking about. Women get married, for example, or whatever. I want to call you whatever you want to be called. Thats my view because im trying to be polite. Thats different from the state weighing in and saying if you somehow use the wrong name more than once or t several times or in a way that we consider, quote, persistent, we are going to w punish you more severely than we would if you knowingly gave someone a fatal disease. What the hell . Well, so, we have a couple of different issues there. First off, h. I. V. Is no longer the fatal disease. When you and i were going living through the 80s and seeing people dying left and right in san francisco, among other places, it was fatal. And now medicine hasn advanced that its not fatal anymore. We are keeping people alive. T look at magic johnson. Tucker that is true. But if you know people who have h. I. V. , im sure you do i do. I do. Tucker first of all, people do die from it for sure. Its a huge deal, its a big deal. It makes you really sick. Its super expensive. Its terrible. You can say the same thing about tuberculosis. Should we decriminalize the intentional transmission of tuberculosis or malaria . Of course not. The only reason you are doing this with h. I. V. Is because there is a specific lobby dedicated to achieving this. Thats the last government you want to have, one whose laws are written by various lobbies for various reasons. You see where im going, right . I absolutely see where you are going. And i still disagree with you. What we have here is we have a specific demographic who generally has h. I. V. Who is being discriminated againsts and has a tremendous history of discrimination in the united states. Otherwise we wouldnt need things like the Stonewall Riot in the new york city for example. And whats happening. Tucker wait a second, why is it discriminatory . Sigmatized by this. Tucker look, i dont care what, quote, demographic you are. E. If you intentionally givee someone an incurable disease, i dont care how much money you give to nancy pelosi, you should be charged with a felony for that. Thats ridiculous behavior. I mean, right . , f why are we making excuses for that behavior . Because it isnt its not attempted
its not manslaughter, attempted manslaughter. Mo attempted homicide anymore because we are keeping people alive with h. I. V. The medicine has advanced tremendously. Tucker so if i give you tuberculosis, which can be managed with antibiotics, most of the time like h. I. V. Which cant always be managed but most of the time. Should that be a misdemeanor, too . Yeah. Morally speaking, why not any std. Gonorrhea for that matter. Tucker legally. No, because gonorrhea has nevert had the consequences of h. I. V. Or tuberculosis. Look, tuberculosis sufferers dont have a lobby, Thats The Truth hire. As a moral question, do you think its okay, it shouldnt be a felony to intentionally give someone tuberculosis, is that what you are saying . I think its wrong, just like you do. But is it a felony . Is this something that we should be putting . Tucker to give somebody potentially on purpose. Just to be clear. This is on purpose. This is not, you know, diseases are spread accidentally and we understand that. W, through recklessness or carelessness, this is onon purpose. Im trying to give you this disease. Thats not a felony. No. Its a misdemeanor in the state of california. We have determined. Up to six months in jail for each offense. Tucker i got it. I wasnt for california becoming its own country. I im getting close. Ethan, thank you. Up next, the great Ainsley Earhardt needs no introduction. The star of fox friends here to discuss her brand new book. R stay tuned. Each year sarah climbs 58,007 steps. Thats the height of mount everest. Because each day she chooses to take the stairs. At work, at home. Even on the escalator. That can be hard on her lower body,
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