Oh, my god what happened . Oh, god what happened . [unintelligible screams] just a horrific scene, the witnessing that the van traveled more than 500 yards going after whoever was in front of it. At least 13 people are dead, more than 100 injured, isis has taken responsibility for the attack. Tonight police may have been involved in a second terror attack in a coastal town about 70 miles south of barcelona. Lets go live to barcelona where jack paradox, a feature storys new journalist is standing by. What do we know about the second terror attack . Yes, indeed. As you mention, another very similar scene is in the land of cambrils, 70 kilometers to the southwest side. It appears that another vehicle tried to ram into further pedestrians seven people injured, and one a police officer. We believe that the attackers, police have confirmed that they think they the attackers in that incident were wearing explosives. We believe that there have been no fatalities in that incident so hard. If the spanish saying that they neutralize the attack. Clearly that coming within 12 hours of the attacks that we saw on la rambla. A big concern for Spanish Security tonight. Yes, im curious, we talked about the driver of the van debt attacked today. Is there any connection that the driver of that van who we believe is on the run was involved in this second attempted terror attack . In the coastal city . That we cannot confirm. We know that five people were shot dead by police in a shootout following the attempted attack on cambrils on the southern coastline. So we know that the police think the two attacks are connected. And that they have been shot by perpetrators paid whether the man drove the van down la rambla behind me earlier on thursday was the same man that made its way down to the spanish town further down the coastline prayed that we do not know yet. But we are expecting more details, as you would expect. Trace lastly, jack, and curious about the two explosions. One happened last night. We understand that there were some fatalities in the explosions, those were apparently linked by police in spain to the attack today. What are we learning about those attacks and what the connection might be . Thats right. In another town around 70 miles or so, outside of barcelona, a house exploded. It looks pretty gruesome, the explosion that have been there. Police believe that the perpetrators of these attacks were trying to make explosive in the house. One fatality. And thought that the fatality may have been someone making explosives. It is a really strange and scary series of events that have happened here in barcelona around the city of barcelona. Trace yes come alive for us on the ground in barcelona. Good of you to join us. Thank you, sir. With us more for jim hansen. Here in los angeles, aaron cohen, a former member of israels counterterrorism movement. And a creator of cherries. You listen to the report, we looked at this today. To the experts looked at it. The traffic on both sides. People walking in the middle. A lot of places like this around the world. We talk about the london bridge, westminster, a lot of places, and i know you think it is easy to secure these, but how do you lock down la rambla today . Ive been there twice, it is not on similar to any boardwalk that you have. The difference is that it only has one way in and one way out. What i would have done their, and how i would be looking at security in the macro picture for all of these more wellknown places where people gather, and you and i have discussed this, i would have put bollards down, even temporary bollards that could raise and then go down. And then i would have uniform armed patrolled Police Officers at either ends of la rambla. If you have the bollards or plastic ones that fill up, the van or vehicle cannot physically get in there. You cannot protect everything. But we can at least cut off or create choke points to end the madness of the vehicular murder that we are seeing. Trace lets take it out of the u. K. , talk about the United States. Every week, on any given weekend, 25 places that you know are soft targets. The french border, Football Games getting out of thousands of people are there that seem to be very difficult to secure. It is a lot of locations. Im sure that there are a couple of hundred if you do the math and add it all up. Any place where you have crowds that are migrated or crowds that are hanging out together whether it is a concert like we saw with arianna grande. Or the tube in the u. K. You have to look at the security measures. It is doable. It has to be scaled. The u. S. Government needs to put together some task force and look at all the different types of wellknown places where the crowds will start to come together. A sporting events in the cities and all the other national and religious places where the crowds form, and then start to put up counterterrorist measures so that the bollards, when they are brought in with the control officers, i will add another one, probably one of israels bestkept counterterrorism secrets. Plainclothes officers. The more eyeballs you have sprinkled undercover, the more the force multiplier you have. The problem in this country is that we do not allow the plainclothes officers to get involved. Thats for liability reasons. That needs to change. Trace jim hansen, i know you differ on this on this producing instead of securing the side, you should secure the source or make sure that the source is preempted from these types of attacks by making sure that the muslims assemble and eight assimilate. What would you do to increase security . You should do both. Usually you should absolutely do what aaron recommends. But europe is reaping the whirlwind of a open borders policy where they are bringing in vast numbers of people who do not share liberal western values and not assimilating anywhere near enough. So you have a large group of people who have not joined the culture. And in many cases are going to mosques where they are hearing extremist ideology. And jihadist being there, and doing what you expect credit that shows the value of President Trumps executive order commonly called the travel ban where he called for all of the security agencies to develop what he calls extreme vetting, i would hope at this point it is turboextremevetting and look at the people that want to come to the country to make sure that they do not share those beliefs. Not going to try to bring them here to the United States. Trace we talked about this. We did a story on this earlier how spain has seen a influx of migrants page triple this year what it was last year, jim. Really no way to get them assimilated. You cannot get them housed. You cannot get doctors, know it education. You cannot get them housed much less assimilated into various neighborhoods. I am sympathetic to the plight of people around the world. In military forces we help to people who were in bad situations, liberating people from oppression. You cannot do it to everyone and bring everyone either to europe or the United States. We have to help them where they are and make things better there and then in the places where we already have values of liberty, freedom, and that kind of thing, we need to make sure that we are not inviting people here who do not share their values. Trace you are talking about liberty and values, everybody talks about the Israeli Security system. And it is great. They do a great job there, but you give up significant liberties in israel. You go to the mall, you get your trunk checked, car checked, you have to step outside. Certain things that im not sure americans and the people in the u. K. Will want to give up. I agree, definitely a change or a comfort zone that needs to be reached in order to be able to adapt to the types of liberties, if you will that you are giving up to be able to assimilate with the type of security that israel demands of its government. The first terror attack in israel on the airplane was last, they say they will not put up with it. All of the citizens in the military, weapons everywhere. We have a conscript army, but the truth is, and i am with jim 100 . There is no question that part of the security or the chunk of the security is going to be involved with going after the people inside the circles and getting the intel cooking. When we say multilayered, it has convoluted, the term, so it is a part of the middle east, we have to beef up security and continue pressing with the intel agencies inside the neighborhoods. The other thing, from what i understand, the Central Intelligence shared with the spanish intelligence agencies have just over the summer, a couple of months ago about a certain terror cell that was cooking inside of spain. The problem is that they did not have the information. Europe does not seem to be acting on it. If thats a push that we are missing. Trace jim, the last question to you, we have to go, but israel stands for . Is it your assessment that people in europe and the United States are willing to stand for it a little bit more . I hope that they will because we need to. And i hope it does not take another catastrophic attack of 9 11 proportion to wake people up to the fact that this does not have to be the way that we live. Trace jim hansen, aaron cohen, thank you. For more on the terror attack in barcelona and moments. Is this or is the driver of the van was still at large . Or was he among the People Killed by the police and the terror raid moments ago. 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Spewing continuing coverage of breaking news, president s response to the terror attack in barcelona creating some Major Political waves. We will get to chief correspondent ed henry. A life for us in d. C. Tonight. Add to. Good to see you. Just like Everything Else that President Trump diesel with these days. Almost ive anything he says gets dumped on our criticize, started out as a normal reaction that we expect from the president , the crisis either here at home or abroad. At the president puts out a statement on twitter. The first tweet pretty standard. Pretty straightforward. A tweeting date the United States condemns the terror attack in barcelona, spain, and will do whatever is necessary to help. Be strong, we love you to the people of spain. But then he added a tweet saying study what study what general pershing of the United States did to terrorists when caught. There was no more radical islamic terror for 35 years thats where he got tripped up, a bit of history that everyone from bullet effect had the National Review are things did not actually happen, that the world war won u. S. General, general pershing and the rally and campaign took some islamic terrorists about 50 of them, slaughtered some pigs. He took the pig blood. And they put them on the bullets, killing 49 of the 50 islamic terrorists. As you hear from the tweet, allegedly it went away for 35 years. Historians tonight saying that to that is not exactly what happened. President taking the heat for that. Meanwhile the Vice President mike pence has been traveling in latin america. He was in panama, had very strong words for the terrorist. This latest attack, the worst terror attack on spanish soil since the 2004 madrid train bombings. It shows us again that radical islamist terrorist are one of the biggest threats we face today. Isis has taken credit for their barbaric attack. But whoever is responsible should know that the United States of america, together with our allies will find and punish those responsible and to drive the evil of radical islamic terror from the face of the earth. So you see there the threat of radical islamic terror, something President Trump and Vice President mike pence spoke a lot about. Now something they deal with as they run the government. Trace ed henry, thank you, lets bring in walid phares, the Foreign Affairs analyst who serves as a advisor on these issues to donald trump during the 2016 campaign. It was good to see you. Seems like if youre trying to rally the horses, if you are trying to give the country some comfort, i guess rehashing the story that has been debunked might not be the way to do it . Your thoughts . Yes, some would criticize. Thats where the opposition today is trying to do, but lets put it in perspective. The president and the Vice President put those statements to the Spanish Government and people against the terrorist, and they named the foes, the radical islamic terrorists. But the president tried to mobilize by giving a story. It was criticized. About what he has showed since last november. So we have in the past, president obama who would issue statements that would be academic, sounding well, but then going in the wrong direction. Now we have President Trump who is going the right direction, but of course he has his own style in those tweets. We need to understand what is more important. The general direction or the style. That is the big question. Trace you want President Trump to say, these are terrorist . And president obama, clearly, reticent to do that in a lot of times. In some facts he did not do it at all. Do you think it is important that the president gets in front of these issues and right off the getgo, these are terrorist, this is evil, we need to paste what it is . Of course, he is the leader of the free world. Today, tonight i would say that the Prime Minister of spain is the most advanced in his statement. He said that this is jihadi terrorism. Thats how we should define it. But we refine and say the best words, we cannot say that this is terrorism an abstract. We need to do better than what we do in washington, not to go back in the direction of the last eight years. Trace the goal being what . If we go out and we say it is terrorism coming is kind of implied. We know, we knew back in 2009 or 2010 that it was terrorism. We knew it right off the getgo. We knew who the suspect was. What are we accomplishing by stating it upfront . The person we accomplish is to inform the American Public what terrorism looks like. What does jihadists would be staying. We need the allies, this is the largest, not just a Law Enforcement who are overwhelmed by everything. Thats why National Leaders need to explain. They are at the editors. They need to be very precise to the public. Number two, we have specific communities that can help us a lot. Coming from the middle east, north africa, they are the allies. If you do not tell them that this is jihadists terrorism, they would not think that it is and be able to help us. Trace does this bolster the travel ban . Does it give more credence . I think we need to do more than that in terms of vetting, what is missing in washington is a real system where we are able to determine the ideology of those that we are concerned about. But more important to detect who is radicalizing. This whole story, there is one issue that is missing right now. Because when those speeds are terrorist, that is terrorism, we need to know what is the network that is basically inducting these people so that they become terrorists. Trace i have to go, but some of these countries that talk about vetting, yemen, these are failed states, we cannot get the information out of there, they do not have the information to give that are coming that way. It is a very difficult task. That is very true, but remember that the president addressed 50 arab and muslim leaders, a system of counterterrorism. And a lot of things that have been loaned. We need to figure out how we are going to apply it in the world of reality. Trace dr. Walid phares, always good to see you. And coming up today, the terror attack in barcelona is the latest in an ongoing wave of vehicle assaults in europe. Why is a continent having so much trouble stopping them . Continuing coverage of breaking news, stay with us. Then the chronic, widespread pain slowed me down. My doctor said moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain. He also prescribed lyrica. Fibromyalgia is thought to be the result of overactive nerves. Lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. 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