With Sarah Huckabee sanders, Anthony Scaramucci comes in, did you feel in any way that this was against you . Did you feel push back, he wanted to add to the team more than anything. I think it was in the best interest of our communications to permit, of our press organization, to not have too many cooks in the kitchen. Tucker catch the rest of that interview in a little less than two hours at 10 00 p. M. Eastern. Meanwhile, dana perino was a White House Press secretary, she is our friend over at the five, and she joins us tonight. High dana. How are you . Tucker im great. Im wondering about the basic macro question, which is what the goal now . Youve got Anthony Scaramucci as to medications director, youve got Sarah Huckabee sanders as press secretary, they are working together to achieve what . What is the primary goal . Thats something ive been thinking about, because you obviously have to congratulate Sarah Huckabee sanders picture with the third woman to be White House Press secretary. A job that immediately changes her life forever. Sometimes you might feel like it changes it for the worse, but it is for the better. I loved that job. I was glad it had an end date. For instance curmudgeon, he comes of the clean slate. He heard sean spicer being very gracious and saying look, if the president wants a new look and feel of the press office, he should have that fully and graciously stepped away. Head sounds. Thats great. Now Anthony Scaramucci, he gets in there, he has a lot on his plate already. Truthfully, even though it looks like what you see of the job is something always on television, for Communications Director and especially the press secretary, 90 of what they do is behind the scenes and not public. He has to set the vision. I wonder does the president want to see his Approval Ratings go up, does he want to advance legislation, i would be curious if he actually talked Anthony Scaramucci about that. Their different ways to get to that goal, whatever it is that the president really ultimate he wants. Tucker my impression for the past six months has been that sean spicer was basically doing what he was asked to do. He was trying pretty hard, not only is he a goodnatured person who understands washington, its hard for me whatever his failings, what its hard for me to believe that hes really at fault for whatever problems theyve had. Ive always long believed that because its public and everybody sees it that its really easy to blame the communicators. I remember being in the situation room in the middle of the iraq war was terrible and you had civilians killed daily by suicide bombings in markets, and theres a guy from the pentagon who in the situation room said what we have here is a key medications problem. I remember i looked at condoleezza rice, gave me a nod, i said with all due respect, we have affect problem. We have a problem that we cant communicate when there are a bad on the ground. Reshaping Higher Committee had and can be interesting. He mentioned in the opening how Anthony Scaramucci has taken on cnn. If you look at how he did that, he did it with such a light touch. After they corrected it, he said cool, no problem, everybody makes mistakes. Im good. Then he walked away. He let everyone else take the fight for him. I think that might be a different way of looking at things because sean spicer was answering the president s call to be an attack dog and punch and hit and fight, uppercuts, all sorts of things. He would try to fight back against what they see as unfair press coverage. Anthony scaramucci might have the same type of goal, but may be a different tactic and see if it works. Tucker i heard you Say Something off cam of the other to add that was smart. He said one of the problems here is that there is no consensus within the party about what the party ought to stand for. Its our debacle medication strategy if everybody, not just in the white house, arent all reading from the same sheet. There trying to do massive changes in legislation for making America Great again was never going to be easy. If you look at big, wholesale changes in the party, the first thing that needed to happen was some work by the president of the United States, brans people together and saying here are the three things i absently want to do this year. Theyve been taken off message almost every single day. Sometimes its their fault, sometimes things happen because things happen in the white house. This provides a clean slate. I wish them the very best. I certainly hope that Sarah Huckabee sanders knows that this is going to be a wonderful job, one thing i told her today is make sure you ask for the help you need. Perhaps thats what the president was asking for today, too. Tucker one thing i will say about her and scaramucci is that they both seem like people, which i think is an advantage for a job or if today with people. Theyve got that going for them. Reporters are people, too. Spend we will debate that next time. Thanks for joining us. What is all this drama the white house mean for the president and his agenda . Joining us tonight is not drying. Hes the ceo of the american majority, and he joins us. Before we get there, theres a Washington Post story that just crossed my desk, made the hair on my arm stand up. Apparently our intel agency, some of them have leaked classified medications between former Russian AmbassadorSergey Kislyak and his handlers back in moscow in an effort to hurt the attorney general. The transcript is of a look, but according to the sources quoted in the post, the attorney general spoke before he was attorney general about u. S. U. S. Russian relations with Sergey Kislyak. This is clearly an effort by somebody ts classified information to destroy the attorney general. How was the white house going to respond to this . First of all, this is allegedly. I would love to see the transcripts and i would love to actually know what is going on. Especially since the russians are experts at this information. This is a continuing story. I shared this with the president , listen, the deep state and the democrats, this is a cage fight between you and them. I hope that the president of the nest that is going to win this. They are not going to stop. Theyre going to weapon eyes this information. They will use their allies in the Mainstream Media to go and try to undermine president trump. I hope he continues to push back. Ive encouraged him to go on the offense, again on the variety of things. I want to go back and reopen the Hillary Clinton private email server case. Really go after these leakers, make examples of a few of them, and hopefully stop these leaks. This is not whistleblowing, tucker. This is weapon eyes and classified information to undermine the duly elected president of the United States. Tucker we give enormous power and huge budgets to our intelligence agencies. To see the information they gather secretly used for political purposes domestically is a total perversion. Its scary. Its not a defense of trump or russia policy or anything, no president should have to deal with his own intel agencies selectively leaking classified information in order to hurt people. Why doesnt he have control over his intel agency . Is a possible . When you see the intelligence communities, and agency pushback and some of his appointments and say we have the right to veto. In many ways, this really does crystallize with the elections were about. Are we going to be ruled by an unelected bureaucracy or we going to be ruled or governed by the duly elected president of the United States . This is the rub. I think the bureaucracy is out of control. I think they are the ones that think they call the shots, they feel they dont have to listen to trump. I think he does have to take aggressive means. Go after these leakers. Have encouraged him to encourage the office of Inspector General at the doj to really go hunt down these leakers and make examples of them. Again, lets not forget to leak classified information is a 10year prison sentence. You get six or seven of those i think you will see these leaks start to fade away. Tucker i wonder why this isnt being covered. I rented to an elected member of one of the intel committees, i wont say what house is from, but this guy told me and this is people overseeing, oversight of our agencies, that he would not speak in a cell phone because he was afraid that his conversation was being recorded by our intel agencies and used against them. This is one of the few people in American Life would know. Hes on the intel committee. Weve lost control. We have lost control. In a strange way this is where the Freedom Caucus and the aclu are on the same page because at one point we used to actually care about domestic spying and Civil Liberties and all these things. I think trump has an opportunity to say we are going to have this conversation, we are going to pull back the curtain and we are first of all going to say its the duly elected president the calls the shots, but we also have to have the summer into the forefront say we are going to tolerate this anymore. We respect privacy, civil liberty, and we dont want domestic spying, week to bring these intelligence communities and agencies to heal. Tucker to heal. Because its not about term comments about civilian control of the government. That is worth defending. Thank you, ned. Sorry to get all worked up. You can see where this is going. Its deeply troubling. Tucker thanks. When historians look back at the trump administration, a likely point to yesterday as a turning point. 10 31, am. The story appeared a little over 12 hours after the president told the New York Times that Robert Mueller had no right to investigate his business transactions. Muellers or bloomberg sent back the clearest possible message. Yes i do. And i will. What are those transactions . Basically any commercial activity that trump or his family or his associates conducted over the last decade that might pertain to russia or anyone whos ever lived in russia. According to bloomberg, those would include russian purchases of apartments and buildings, his development in russia, the 2013 Miss Universe pageant which was held in moscow, and a sale of a florida mansion in 2008. Thats right. The investigation created to determine whether the russian government influence the trump trumphillary election now extends to a private sale of a house in florida during the bush of administration. Talk about mission creep. Lets be clear about the politics here. This is a mess of threat to the white house. A determined prosecutor can prove almost anything he wants. A prosecutor with no time limit or budget or countability to voters, there is nobody more dangerous than that. Throw in russia, and all bets are off. It is a sketchy place. Any financial transaction could be construed as criminal by an american prosecutor out for blood. After about a pack of cigarettes moscow . Independent comic and independent prosecutor could probably get you for money laundering. We have a ton of laws. It depends on how you want to interpret and enforce them. Its hard to overstate how bad this is for the administration. The Trump White House has lost control of its fate thanks to Robert Mueller. Thats dawning on them now, and it may account for some of the turmoil we see this week. Its also sad as hell, especially for voters. They elected trump. They may not like it, but voters had their reasons and they are supposed to be allowed to pick their own leaders. Thats not at all the view from washington were trump is seen as a terrifying threat to the permanent ruling class, which is been working for more than a year to neutralize him. Hours after the election we were told that the results were not legitimate. Or even real. A Foreign Government mustve done this. There is no other logical expedition for this. What evidence of russian involvement failed to serve us, we urged to have the Justice Department investigated. We owed it to our democracy. Nine months later, nobody is talking like that anymore. Questions of collusion and russian hacking look like footnotes. Theyre trying to figure out why he sold the manhattan apartment to a russian buyer. Theres gotta be something there. I may be in the end will find there is something there. It is the new York Real Estate business, after all. But at what cost . Voters have learned a lot of sad lessons from this russian story. They learn the president does not handle pressure well. They have learned that the elites in washington are as susceptible to mass hysteria as any medieval peasant village. Saddest of all they have learned that despite all the talk of democracy, they are not really in charge of their own government. People who are never elected ar are. Jonathan truly is a law perversity at george washington, thank you for coming on. This is an investigation that went from trying to determine if russia had an effect on the election outcome and is now looking at real estate transactions and ninas dates between how do we get from one to the other . The mandate that was given to mueller was perhaps the most vague and ambiguous mandate ive seen for a special counselor. Its basically one line that says investigate the selection controversy. Nothing else. Theres no specific specific reference to crimes. You can drive a semi through that language, thats whats going to happen. What people need to understand is that a special counsel investigation tends to have some mission. It broadens with time. If you start with a very broad language, they will fill that space and go beyond it. I think that mueller is going to be of the fit this financial investigation under that language, because thats what he was given by rosenstein. Tucker i dont believe that any person who does business in russia, no matter how wellmeaning, could survive a forensic look into those business deals. I honestly think if i had dinner in russia last year i could be arrested. This seems like a real threat. It is a real threat. Weve never had a president with this extensive portfolio thats transnational in character. These are transactions all around the world. They are very large. They tend to be messy. These are special counsel investigates, but they are thorough. If they see a crime, they will refer to the fbi or take it themselves. But that creates a very high risk for this administration. Tucker i think its fair to say that voters, who are the point of this whole exercise, knew that trump did business in russia. He did not release his tax returns. They were very aware of that. They elected him anyway. So from the trump administrations point of view, this is all a disingenuous effort to nullify the election. Thats how they feel about it. And i think they have a point. What can i do about it . Theres not much that they can do about it. I can understand the frustration from the white house. Its like having a cop behind your car on the freeway just moving with you as you watch the speedometer to make sure you dont go over 60. Its sort of on nursing thats going to be the reality for a while for the trump administration. Its like complaining about the weather. I think they need to get a strategy. They have to stop acting tactically. Thats what theyve been doing. Theyve been a few steps behind and theyve been reacting. They need an overarching strategy, and they need to keep a single coherent and cut, consistent narrative. Youre going to have three Major Players going in front of committees next week. Thats the most dangerous time for this administration. Tucker holy smokes. Professor, thanks for joining u us. Ask voters what they care about and they will tell your health care, immigration, even climate are all more important, way more important than russia, and yet russia dominates cable news coverage. Why is that . Would get a panel thats going to try to answer that next. Plus who knows the most about news at fox news . A cage match between ed henry and Griff Jenkins in our final exam quiz show. Its demeaning a hey youve gotta see this. Cmon. No. Alright, see you down there. Mmm, fine. Okay, what do we got . Okay, watch this. Do the thing we talked about. What do we say . Its going to be great. Watch. Remember what we were just saying . Go irish see that . Yes im gonna just go back to doing what i was doing. Find your awesome with the xfinity x1 voice remote. Tucker would get a fox news look for a period Annapolis Police chief has resigned less than a week after an officer gunned down an unmarried woman while responding to and 911 call. His hiring as a Police Officer was allowed the company by the many hapless government. Some had suggested his death the death of the woman he shot also was a product of the citys diversity policies. She was heavily criticized for staying away on vacation, the police chief, for several days after the shooting and speaking publicly only yesterday. It became at the behest of mayor betsy hodges who has herself attracted heavy criticism after the shooting this week. Former congresswoman Michele Bachmann of minneapolis called the cop an affirmative action hire. The mayor is not a muslim, but is down the covering in an effort to pander to the citys large symbolic committee. The shooting remains under investigator. We will keep you posted on developments in that story. If you watch the news these days, you know that there is no bigger st