Helping that lawyer come to the United States. Once here, the lawyer spy diabolical hacker of democracy didnt just meet with donald trump junior. She also sat in on a congressional hearing, she lobbied on behalf of her government, she went to events around washington, including a dinner attended by at least one member of congress who, for the record, is not named trump. In other words, the story is considerably more complex than you may have heard. Dont tell Time Magazine that. Time magazine, to them it is a simple crime tale. In fact its o. J. Simpson 20 years later. Donald trump in the white bronco. Heres their latest cover. Redhanded. Thats all you need to know. Later in the show we will talk to kato kaelin about his thoughts on russia. Just kidding. Heres the part that is not a person talking point in d. C. Its an actual country. A world country with a nuclear arsenal. For 100 years we had a nuanced relationship with the russian government despite appearances sometimes. Weve done that because we have to do it. Because it was in our best interest. Not anymore. Thanks to hysteria over trumps election, rush is now the single most evil country in the history of the world. According to democrats, even speaking to russians is a crime, a betrayal of america. The country that attacked us in the 2016 elections, he cant go into business with them. It is truly like working with the japanese after pearl harbor to defend hawaii. Im questioning the patriotism of the republicans who are allowing this president to side with the lead mare put in. To wrap his arms around putin. Republicans in congress have become enablers of the trumprussia assault on our democracy. Tucker questioning their patriotism . Didnt do liberals use to accuse conservatives of doing that very thing . Remember . Until they started their own red scare, started doing it themselves. Since then it has been a flat out hyperbole contest with the award going to the participant with the most ludicrous analogies. Nazi associations usually when. He bombs children on purpose and syria. He is as bad as hitler. Tucker okay. So a lot of otherwise sober people in washington have completely lost their minds and are saying things they will hopefully cringe in embarrassment over later. But whats the cost of this hysteria to america right now . We still have a world to run. How much harder is this making it . With us nows former cia Operations Officer brian. Thanks a lot for coming on site. I dont need to say, but its hardly a defense of the policies of the russian government to ask what is the cost to u. S. Interests when any attempt to find common interest with russia are denounced as unpatriotic . Speak and what youre hearing ran out of d. C. Is a lot of either or. Either you or with russia or youre against it. The bottomline and International Politics and International Affairs as it tends to be more nuanced, more complicated. In syria right now, we dont have a vested interest to spend hundreds of millions of dollars or send tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of troops. We have to work with russia to a degree, and the iranians, which is in our interest. Create stability, some as refugees back. Move forward with the interests we have. Its not tucker wait a second. Why are we carrying for water for putin . Im joking, but thats exactly the response you get from otherwise sober minded policy experts when you make the point that you just made. It seems conventional and obvious. Whats the cost . You cant say things aloud like that. A lot of people dont understand how Foreign Policy works. We dont have friends. We have interests. We have temporary alliances. Thats how Global Affairs works now. Thats how it is always work. Thats how well continue to work for many decades if not centuries. Things change. Unfortunately there are areas where haptic collaborate and cooperate that doesnt mean, that we can be honest about the fact that they did what they did in 2016. I believe that as former intelligence officer, the quick to hold them to account. But our relationship with them is complicated. Always has been. For decades. Tucker the russians have been running antiamerican propaganda efforts for 100 year years. They invented the idea that aids was created in a laboratory, we know this. I hate to say it because we are in the middle of a witch hunt. This is not a defense of the behavior of the putin government. Its a reality. They are not the only country seeking to do that. Can i get an amen to that . Preach on. Look at china. In the 90s, giving a whole bunch of money to my party and to others, you go back into time. The british in the runup to world war ii have an office in new york trying to influence get us involved in a war. That doesnt minimize pearl harbor was an influence on that, but the point is this. We have complicated relationships with people all around the world. And we always will. That doesnt mean we dont hold people to account and we dont push back and in case strike back. Thats what we need to do with russia and vladimir putin. We need to be honest about what he does to his own people. That is part of what our values are all about as americans. That should be nonnegotiable. At the same time, you have to be very sober, to use a word, a sober understanding of the complexities of the world. Tucker if youre to set up this same set of standards, for the fifth time because i know the thought police are watching tonight, this is not a defense of russia. But if you were to set up the same moral threshold we are imposing on the rushing government to other allies, how about the saudi arabians, would it be possible to do any business at all or would you be accused of being a sympathizer with al qaeda if you said maybe we should do business with them . You can go to places in africa were some of those leaders have been abusing their people for decades. In some cases, there is one guy who perpetuated cannibalism. If there are horrific people out there that we have varying degrees of relationships with. It is tough. It is hard. Sometimes we are to give and sometimes with the take. On this relationship with russia, organa have to do a mix of both. I think with the push back and push back hard. There is no question about that. They did what they did. But we do need to start approaching things with a much more sober understanding in mind about world affairs. I dont think we are losing that nuance, tucker. Thats scary for American Security in the immediate to longterm. Tucker there are no adults left here, but you should come and improve the tenor and the tone of the city. Thanks for joining us tonight. I appreciate it. Always a pleasure. Tucker the specter of russian infiltration followed him on his trip to france. He addressed his sons alleged involvement and the conspiracy at a News Conference today. Watch. I have a son who is a great young man pit hes a fine person took a meeting with the lawyer from russia. It lasted for very short period. I think its a meeting most people in politics probably wouldve taken. Tucker congressman is a democrat from the state of rhode island and he joins us. Thanks for coming in. You just heard a former cia officer, who is a democrat for whatever its worth, saying russia doesnt have our interests in heart, which is true, but lets be real. We cant not deal with russia. You cant denounce anybody who seeks to do with russia as a traitor to his country. Can we be an adult on this . A relationship with many countries including russias complicated. I agree with the person you just had on, brian i think it the point he made is an important one. Its complicated, but we need to understand the russian government interviewed and our president ial action. We should be serious about that. We should conduct the end but going investigation. We told them to account. We should sanction them pit which make it clear, dont you ever do this again to america. Be on how long are they the first to interfere . Im just asking. We should be outraged by the time at the time any Foreign Government interferes. The reality is it is very important that the russians understand by the way we respond to this that america is not going to allow this. That we hold our democracy to be sacred. It is not to allow the government to participate in using hacked, stolen emails, putting Russian Internet bots onto the internet to promote russian propaganda. This is this is four intelligence agencies and agreed to by 17. Tucker you need to point to bureaucrats to justify a point. These are intelligence professionals. Thats not lets not diminish them. They have dedicated their lives to collect intelligence. Tucker i have a right to question any assumption. And i have a right to assert that i have confidence. Tucker i want to get back to point, because no one gets to the details because we are busy, attacking a democracy, you said rt is the problem. Rt is a Cable Network. I dont watch it, but rt is part of the the American Press corp. Should we them . Ive had the opportunity to have briefings, thereve been on classified documents made available. It is the conclusion of our intelligence agencies, foreign intelligence agencies, and an agreement of 17 that the russian government led by vlad mayor put engaged in a very sick just get an effort to election of hillary clinton. Rt promoted propaganda, fake stories, that were then retweeted on the internet by thousands of russian tucker so if a News Organization puts out stories you think rt is a russian propaganda machine. You know that. Its not a question of it should be allowed, the point is they facilitated the release of stolen emails, i hack into the dnc no, they facilitated the release. Tucker what does that mean . They facilitated the Russian Intelligence Agency of the russian government hacked into the dnc, facilitated the release through wikileaks, they in addition to rt promoting fake news tucker is a member of congress its your job it is our job to protect our democracy. If you i am perfectly fine with you, they interfered with the president ial election. Tucker dont demagogue it. Im asking specific questions you dont want to answer. I am answering them. Tucker in what ways rt problem and what can we do with it . Theres nothing we can do. What we can do is protect our democracy from it. Tucker how can we protect our debug see . Punish them for what they did. Sanctions. Its not a Cable Network its russian propaganda that promotes false information that gets reposted on the internet, shared with tucker what world what role does im talking about the efforts of our team which is a well documented russian propaganda operation. Tucker you think the u. S. Congress and intelligence agencies out of fight back . We ought to fight back against Foreign Government interfering with our president ial election. Tucker heres the concern. We cant stop them from existing, but we can punish the russian government to having the audacity to interfere. Tucker name a story that ran on our tv. There is a story about all of the money raised in the Clinton Campaign by the Clinton Foundation used by the clintons personally. The Clinton Campaign it was promoted as part of the russian propaganda. And that was wrong of course its wrong. Tucker seat like a story on rt so we need to punish them pit im not saying that. We have to understand, we are against tucker i get the adjectives, i want to get to the core. Its not just here. They did it in france. They tried to do and in germany. They are trying to destabilize the western world. Tucker im trying do to get and more precise. Its important because i want specific answers. Let me ask you an overview question since thats where you want to go. Even if everything you say is right, i wonder if it speaks to the suffering of the people you represent and providence. Thereve been some democrats, some wise ones, saying we are going to win elections because it doesnt speak to the people. Asked me on the show to talk about this. Its helpful to your viewing audience. Tucker i actually dont think it is. Id like to talk about the fact weve done infrastructure bill, i like to talk about taxing legislative to make college more affordable. Tucker was nancy pelosi out there hammering the russia issue . Im responsible for my own conduct, and i continue to say we should be focused on the issue that matters in rhode island. Thats great and good paying jobs, preparing our infrastructure, making college more formal, secure in the future of medicare and social security. Thats what we should be doing. The real tragedy is she didnt ask me on the show to talk about those things because you want to talk about russia. Because people watch a show because of it. Have me on and talk about legislation. Tucker i guess im just too quiet on this one. Thanks for coming out. A left wing judge San Francisco has no plans to remove an order who is this judge and is he acting on legal or political grounds . Will unpack that next. An nra ad has triggered liberals, and we have their response. In exchange of ads. We have them both. Rah climbs 58,007 steps. Thats the height of mount everest. Because each day she chooses to take the stairs. 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Tucker a state representative in maine who made violent threats against the president is now nuts presently being investigated by the secret service. Earlier this week state representative Scott Hammond of South Portland went on a profane facebook rent against the president that wound up with a violent threat that appeared to suggest he would hurt the president. He later described the post as aggressively sarcastic and said it was an exchange with a friend. I dont even think he is maine originally. Federal District Court judge is a yale grad with a history of leftwing activism on and off the bench. I own a ruling, that seems more political than judicial. He has announced that he is unwilling to pullback in order that prevents the Trump Administration from cracking down on st. Therese it is who exactly is he and why is he so often in the news . The president of Judicial Watch joins us tonight. Tom, i wanted to destroy because i noticed his name appearing. There are lots of judges that i dont agree with, but this appeared to be a judge who is making decisions based on his personal political beliefs and not trying to hide it. One of these antitrump judges weve heard about with the president s temporary ban on illegal immigrants. Here you have President Trump trying to warn sanctuary cities, that if they dont comply with the law requiring allowing police and other local officials to come to kate with i. C. E. Status, like if you have someone arrested in jail, tell i. C. E. Before you release them, and you dont get federal funds until you do. It seems like a common sense application of law. The judge says you cant do that. Tucker on the basis of what . Is there a valid legal argument . Hes pretending that the Justice Department is adding an extra requirement that only congress can add to the federal funding at issue. The order out of the Attorney Generals Office and the department of justice, they say look, to the extent, appropriate under law. To the extent allowable under law. His other antitrump judges, he said it doesnt matter what they say. I dont like it, and the sensory cities that are challenging it are going to be nervous. They may not get that money in the future. Therefore tucker he has become famous among a small group of people whove been paying attention because of an Abortion Case on the west coast were an antiabortion group took videos of abortion providers talking about selling baby parts. Nobody contests those videos are real. The judge has put a gag order on this, i wont allow those videos to be shown. We can show them on the show, they can be disseminated. Even though they are real. It seems an obvious violation of the First Amendment. And yet, nobody says anything about it because the entire media is on his side. When it comes to abortion, the rules dont apply. The First Amendment doesnt apply when it comes to discussion, planned parenthood, which is been caught in this, planned parenthood is selling you dont get the same protections if you are prolife that she would otherwise get. In this case, imagine if the press had gotten a video of the meeting donald trump, jr. , had with russia. Do you think a judge would preempt and prevent debt video from being released . Know. All the media will be saying the people have a right to know whats going on here. These organizations have federal funds at issue, and they may be violating the law. This is the Investigative Journalism 101, give a federal court judge telling a group that wanted to publish these videos, they couldnt publish it because of the impact on the people. Tucker im a journalist not a lawyer, is truth not a defense . The audios are real. Can you not make the case that you have a right under the First Amendment to show them . I think that theres of strong argument. If this was the aclu or the wa