Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Tucker Carlson Tonight 20170421 : c

Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Tucker Carlson Tonight 20170421

By gonzales curio. Hes a mexicanamerican judge who was he was an illegal immigrant but despite that shehe eventually made it in finance here in the United States and became the Vice President at Goldman Sachs. She recently wrote a piece accusing the trip and administration of creating a Deportation Force that will drive out millions of immigrants. She joins us now. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me. Tucker so you applied for a job and were accepted at Goldman Sachs and ascended in the rakes but you were here illegally. That suggests that you used an illegal Social Security number, someone elses,oc a stolen Social Security number. Whos was it . T . I did. I used a fake Social Security number that didnt want anyone. It was a completely made up number. Unfortunately, that is what young people who are incredibly burden ared forced to do given the immigration policy that we currently have. I wassi very fortunate to be abe to become an american citizen eventually when i got married to a u. S. O citizen. For millions of people, this line that we continually talk about doesnt actually fit. tay there isnt a pathway for people to get documented, including the young man that you just mentioned that was deported recently. Tucker your said you were forced to do it. My understanding is thats a felony punishable by five to ten years in prison. You have any regrets by committing a fennel need to take a job . It actually the felony that you were talking about really depends on what state, and i did not commit identity theft. I used a Social Security number that was fake. I absolutely wished that i didnt have to do that. I wish there had been a pathway for me to become a permanent resident and essentially a citizen. I absolutely wish there wouldve been another way, but given the circumstances that i was in, that really was my only choice. I did the best that i could with the circumstances i had, and as you said, i became a Vice President at Goldman Sachs and later became a director. So you had no choice but to work at Goldman Sachs. I guess it sounds to me like andd congratulations on your success in this country. I think he would be a little bit more grateful to the opportunities this country brought you. It sounds like you are blaming the country for the laws that you dont like. You had to violate our laws because they weree unjust laws. Why did you have to violate our laws . What i am saying is that there are laws that are unjust. But i am not blaming anybody for the circumstances that i was in. Im incredibly grateful to this country, which is why i became an american citizen. That was one of the best days of my life to finally be recognized by country that i have called home since i was 11 years old. So im incredibly grateful for the opportunity. So now, what i am doing is trying to make that opportunity available for more people who come here to work really hard and use their talents to make this country the country it is. A great beautiful country, which is why i livee here and amp an american citizen now. Tucker i get its worked out great for you and it has for a lot ofgr immigrants and i adme their work ethic and their drive and i also sympathize with those who leave the country that they are fleeing from. I also think american should have a voice v in it. I also find your characterization of the president s proposed border wall a symbol of hate is not an indication of gratitude, suggesting you dont think america has the right to protect its borders. That seems a very odd attitude for someone who has benefited so much from your adopted country. Not at all. I dont think that makes me ungrateful. I think that makes me a citizen of the country who also gets to have a voice. My boys might be different than your voice, but we both get voices. Tucker of course im not challenging your right to say what you think, and i wouldnt defend it literally. However, i dont understand why our countrys desire to protect its borders is an expression of hate. What does it mean . N i think that might the point that i am trying to make is that the wall is not the best weight to protect our borders. I live here. I want this country to be safe. My children are growing to go up in america as american citizens born here. I absolutely want our country to be safe. But building a wall that is going to cost millions of dollars of taxpayers my tax dollars are going to. Tucker i dont have any patients for that argument. Thats only real argument. Pr has a well going to protect usus . Tucker you say that theyo walls going to be too expensive. You said is an expression of hate, and i just want to get to the bottom of that. Why is it hateful to want to build a wall . A lot of americans a majority in some sense, why is it related to heat . It is a hateful symbol. It is a symbol of hate against immigrants, it is a symbol of hate against mexican immigrants, which the president mr. Trump run his campaign on. So i do still view the wall as a symbol of hate. Tucker i just want to get to the bottom of this because you are throwing around a language that has an effect on peoples attitudes, and its prettyse heavy duty because it presumes motives that you cant know. You dont know that people supporting the wall hates mexicans. A lot of immigrants that come across the more order are not mexicans they are Central American spirit is it legitimate for an american to say i want to control who comes into my country and we dont have that. So a wall will reestablish that. Would you denounce that . I would absolutely welcome a conversation about how we create a system by which people can come here legally that will benefit america, that will increase tax revenue, increase economic activity. So we should have a conversation. Tucker we are having that conversation now but you are not answering my question. You are not answering the key question. Lets get to another question. Why is it a symbol of hate for people who disagree with you on the wall . As a mexican immigrant, i can have an opinion that that walt toomey symbolizes hate. Tucker i am merely i think you have a right to have any opinion you want but i have a right to ask you what you are talking about. You cant explain it. Lets move onto my next question which is really simple. How many people should we allow into this country illegally every year . Lets be precise and to do this for a living. How many people should we allow in legally each year . I dont think people we should allow people illegally into the country. I think we should create a pathway so that people can come into the country legally. Its very i never had to cross a border illegally. I came herein. I dont know what its like to risk your life to come here but many people do die trying to come to our country. I would want to have a way wayo let people to come work in this country can come work in this country legally. Tucker how many . At 320 Million People in the country again, you do this for a beginning. This is not something you havent thought about. How manyny people should be letn every year . This is about a million a half illegally, which at this number be . Im interested in this answer. What is it . I think that we have to have a deeper conversation w to comep with a number that makes sense. But the number right now when ws talk about high skills people age when we only get h1b visas we give out every year to do a lottery and that number hasnt changed in decades. We have a look immigration symbol a system and how do we create a password for this. Tucker i am trying to be respectful and i do respect your achievements and i think you are clearly a talented person but i think if you advocate for policy changes, you ought to be able to define what they are and it them. And you cant. Many other people cant. Ii just want a specific spear thats all i want. Im not trying to be mean. Im sorry, were out of time. I can provide you with specifics. Tucker ive asked you five times. Whats the c number . How many people should be let in . Every year . De whats the ideal number of Illegal Immigrants other h will be programs or various other programs . How may peoples we bring it in a year . That cap of 85,000 visas should be at least double that number. To meet the demands of our country and our economy. If you are talking about h1b visas, that should be double. And when it comes to privacy, we cant have that conversations about changing the immigration policy in this country without including a pathway for citizens for the 11 Million People that want to get undocumented. Tucker and i hear illegally. As an american. I get it. Thank you for throwing out that number. I appreciatenk it. Thank you for joining us tonight. The modern left, the concept of free speech has become a stale relic of the 60s. Miley and oculus David Horwitz all found themselves barred from speaking. Purely due to their opinions. The most recent person silas in this matter is ann coulter who was told her speech at uc berkeley could not go forth because of safety concerns. Heres what she set on the show last night. By the way, i am giving the speech. I dont know. What are they going to do . Arrest me . They can put me in the birmingham jail as a taxpayerfunded institution, not to mention lots of kids getting federal money to be there. Attorney general Jeff Sessions should be looking at this. Tucker after an outcry, officials at berkeley are offering her speak in early may. Miss coulters announcement that she intends to come to this campus on april 27th without regard for the fact that we do not have a a protectable venue available on that day is of a grave concern. Last night, i asked my staff to look beyond the usual venues we used for large public gathering gatherings. Fortunately, that expanded search identified inappropriate protectable venue that is available on the afternoon of may 2nd. Tucker exercisingrc freedom of speech is of great concern says a guy fromol the college known for the free speech movement. Marks time but no, he knows what its like to be targeted for his opinion. What stopped him from speaking his own country. Mark steinman joins us tonight. Mark, you must recognize this. These guys i certainly recognize that kind of creepy weaselly evasive speech. A canadian blogger called Laura Cohen Missy sums up very well. Security is the new shut up. By what she means yes of course we believe in freedom of speech, but we have security concerns so they come up with all these you have to change the day, you will have to change the venue, we will have to move you to this venue. We have had a conversation with the Security Team and at the municipal police, and they say we are going to need 600 riot police there g to enable you to give a speech. The point of all this is that eventually, the guys give up and abandon trying to invitee conservative speakers because of the time you factor in all the security cross, you could stage hello dolly meets godzilla on ice. For the same cause as bringing Charles Murray and to give a 20 minute speech to a few students. And berkeley should be ashamed of this. If its not safe on april 27th for ann coulter to be there, they should fix that. But shesil coming on april 27t, and she should be able to speak their without those guys losing control of the environment. Tucker among the many ironiesir in this come up left invented the term victimin shaming or blaming the victim. Thats exactly whats going on here. They show up to abridge your freedom of speech and then you are blamed for the violence they threaten. How does that work . s we want . Thats right. The New York Times gave a particularly weaselly account today. They say berkeleys reputation as one of the most liberal universities. The campus and the surrounding areas have become a target for a small militant and shadowy right wing groups. In other words, if you read the New York Times, you would think that this is a right wing violence targeting a liberal campus. Its the exact opposite. Its a leftwing thugs of middleburymi who put a liberal professor in the hospital and made her have to go pack a couple days later with a concussion. These groups claim to be fascists antifascist. You dont actually need fascists of the socalledfa antifascist groups are putting a liberal female professors in the hospital. The administrators of american universities are some of the most disgraceful people in the western world at the a moment. They are actually selling out one of the critical elements of the western inheritance, which is freedom ofed speech. They are turning basically University Campuses to the equivalent of english hooligan football stadiums of the 1970s. Shame on them. Tucker i have to say if you say you are antifascist, its a red flag. Maybe it suggests you are one . What exactly is the right to this . You have had it happen to you. You have been prevented from speaking in public like people like this. How do you respond . D i think you do what ann coulter is doing. You say you are going to be there. This is a public university. We just had a fascinating discussion with a lady who thinks its hateful to put up a wallll to prevent Illegal Immigrants entering the country, but apparently, a publicly funded institution, half the American People are not welcome to come and express their opinions there. You have to take a stand against that. Theres no point having a personal amendment, theres no point having legal battles, there has to be a broader culture of free speech and every time the left says no wed rather punch your lights out, its the duty of the universityy administrators to slap them down. Also the duty of swishes like a pathetic people that run the Berkeley Police department who signed idly by and oppose as neutral between the thugs and at thent Group Holding the event. The Berkeley Police Department Also needsds to be held to account. Tucker it is the leadership. I bet if you talk to the average cop in berkeley he would be as frustrated as you are. Mark steyn, thanks a lot. You are right, tucker. Police chiefs are politically correct and many of these cases. Tucker tries the cops crazy. Mark, thank you. Ups next, isis is claim responsibility for an attack in the city of paris. Well bring you the very latest on that. Well talk to daily mails katie hopkins, one of our favorites, about the hazards of letting in massive migrant populations in the thirdra world. All of next. New bike . Yeah, cause i got allstate. If you total your new bike, they replace it with a brand new one. Thats cool. I got a new helmet. We know steve. Its good to be in good hands . Tucker this is a fox news alert. Terror once aga tucker this is a fox news alert. Terror once again hits the streets of paris today as a gunman killed a Police Officer and hurt two more before being killed himself. A lot happened there. Joining our correspondent kevin oz bike was in brussels, belgium, tonight. Kevin, whats going on . Ay they do know the identity of the attacker but they are not making it publict just cap because they say it is possible he could have had accomplices and they wouldnt know that before they tell the public and at the media more information. This all unfolded just a couple of hours ago if it wouldve not one of the most wellknown famous boulevards here on this continent. Witnesses saying he started drying down the bowl of work, parked near a police van, and then started shooting the Police Officers inside the van. He said he didnt try to run away but the Police Officer shot and killed him. Right now, two Police Officers remain in a hospital with serious injuries. Tucker, what is so fascinating here is the timing of all of this. This all unfolded just three days before the French Public go to the polls and what has just been a president ial race filled with twists and turns. Who this could really benefit is the far right marine le pen. She is a platform that is very tough on immigration. She wants toto strengthen secury on frances borders and she also hadan this french first policy where she wants to give people french residents who were born in france First Priority when it comes tofi jobs and social benefits. She wants to prioritize them over foreignborn residents. Its going to be very interesting to see in the coming days if her platform becomes more popular with the French Public, and if she really benefits from this. The latestt polls that were just out this morning show she is currently running neck and neck with manual background. This is really a horse race at this point. The country in some respect is shifting its focus with a ute unusual president ial race to once again terrorism. Soon kevin, thanks a lot for that. This kevin just said, attacks like this have elevated immigration to the top of french politics and yet that country like the rest of europe is still facing a flood of migrants from africa and of the middle east. It shows no signs of stopping. Is there anyway to keep western europe from becoming 1 of 1 vast encampment for the worlds poor . Katie hopkins has thought about this a lot. Hes calling us from dailymail. Com and shes joining us today. Katie, is there a way to stop what seems like an endless stream of people from these regions coming to your . I dont believe there is. In 2015, ive said in quite a few articles, stop the boats. We should send the military to stop the boats crossing the med, just like the australian said. We did nothing about it. We just kind of collective g mourned about this baby that got washed up onn the beach and then Angela Merkel opened up the borders and said that the mall come. We are still paying the price for that now. Two years later, we just had 8,000 migrants arrive in one weekend in

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