Now, lets get to the guts of this developing story. We will go to adam housley who has been on it all day. Multiple sources are telling fox news that susan rice requested the unmasking of trump transition officials. Associated with donald trump were then sent to dio g, james clapper, john brennan, basically the people at the top including ben rhodes. These names are part of incidental electronic communications, for up to a year we are told before he took office. The names of americans are instantly collected but are supposed to be masked. Meaning the names are redacted from reports whether its international or domestic collection unless its an issue of National Security crime orco their security is threatened in any way. Y. Americans are supposed be protected from this incidental collection. We are also told that house intelligence chairman devin nunes knew about unmasking and leaking back in january while before his tweet in march alleging the wiretapping, our sources say the intelligence agencies slow rolled nunes, you couldve seen it besides the white house. But itd already been a few weeks so he went to the white house so he could be protected there. A he could get to the logs. Tucker, as you can tell, there is a lot here. We believe theres a lot more coming and its already changed a lot since we broke part of the story back on friday. Tucker amazing and its moving fast. For months, our press and government told us to fear russia. We are supposed to be upset about it. And afraid. Okay, russia is bad but weve learned something worse and far scarier. Our own government has violated the Civil Liberties in ways that wouldve been unimaginable even ten years ago. No one in washington seems especially shocked or upset about it. Considering what we just learned about National Security advisor under Barack Obama Susan rice. Rice went on television andd lied. She said she knew nothing about the intelligence collection on donald trump and his associates. She knew quite a bit about it as it turns out. She participated in the monitoring of the Trump Campaign and transition. Many of the communications she and the Obama Administration monitored were unrelated in the investigation into russia. An investigation that is as of today the only excuse offered for the monitoring. What exactly were the obamas doing spying on the trump people . Monitoring the conversations of your political opponents and trampling measures to protect their identities is notpl incidental collection. It is spying. We are told of her behavior probably wasnt illegal in fact, nor is the surveillance that preceded it. U. S. Laws gives tremendous latitude to surveilled americans. Officials their claim to see that information and pass it along to other forms of government. That supposed to reassure all of us that it doesnt because what it means is that our law provides no protection for u. S. Citizens were being spied upon for political reasons by their own government. Worse, it actually happens. In fact it just happened and that is the scandal here. Not everyone agrees though. Seems to be an outrage to some but not to others. Foreign policy advisor duringg the 2008 barack obama presidency, lets begin at the susan rice story. Very telling, she was going on Television Just recently and lied to him right into the camera saying she knew nothing about it. Why would she lie . I dont know why she would lie it we dont know what that she lied but maybe what she was asked to talk about was classified. I think its helpful to your audience to break down in phases what happened here and look atak the legality of each thing. There was surveillance ofat russian agents, thats okay and that is with the u. S. Is supposed to do. Surveilled russia, they surveilled us among we try to get information about them and they try to get information about us. Ge there were certain u. S. Citizens caught up in that surveillance. Incidental collection of their conversations or discussions about them. That includes some Trump Campaign officials. Thats okay too. Thats going to happen. They are supposed to remain masked. In this case, they were unmasked and we know from the story today that susan rice requested the unmasking of some of them. You have to look at what are the criteria for unmasking . There are two basic criteria. One, you need to know the name of the u. S. Citizen in order toi understand the intelligence or two, does the intelligence suggest that the u. S. Citizen may be involved in some criminal activity . We know now from director comey of the fbi that there is an ongoing criminal investigation of the Trump Campaign and the potential cooperation between Trump Officials and russia. There could be a very good reason for this unmasking. Tucker there might be. Is there a good reason for the spying that had nothing to do with the russia investigation . It encompassed a lot of surveillance of trump and his associates. What could possibly be the justification of that . We dont know that. That hasnt come out. Tucker fox news is reporting that. A lot of this material had nothing at all to do with that russia investigation. Again, in the middle of a president ial campaign, when you have one party which is seeking to defeat another party for the party in power to use the capacity against the other party seems way out of balance, legal or not. Tucker, we have to look at each surveillance in the communications that happened in that surveillance. It didnt just happen with russia. It happened with agents of other countries as well. A lot of countries have agents here. A there are lots of conversations that couldve been surveilled. Trump Campaign Officials could have been caught up in that too paired with a look to look at each incident. Tucker its not simply about the unmasking. Its the fact of the spying, that during a president ial campaign, the Obama Administration was spying onre e people around donald trump. Again, we are reporting today that its not all about russia. Im not saying not the legal questions, everything is legal in washington as you know. Everything. And its illegal, fine. Is it ethical . Would you want that to happen to you . I dont agree with the premise that the Obama Administration was spying on the Trump Campaign. This was normal surveillance that goes on. The surveillance started under the bush administration. President bush tucker what you are saying is that under the trump administration, we find out virtually every person in congress spies on foreign officials all thee time. We are going to spy on the government officials with whom we know Chuck Schumer speaks and oh, my gosh, we just collected confidential information on Chuck Schumer. We are going to pack it up to various intelligence agencies t and leaked out to the press. You are putting it backwards. We are surveilling foreigno agents of Foreign Countries, especially Foreign Countries that happen to be enemies of the u. S. If someone like Chuck Schumer happens to talk to those people, that information is going to be collected. Unless Chuck Schumer is engaging in improper activities or we suspect him to be involved in criminal activity, his name should remain masked unless we have to know his name to understand the intelligence. There were lots of conversations that were surveilled that involved Trump Campaign officials that were not unmasked but certain ones were unmasked. Tucker ive heard this explanation from the very beginning. This is what we do, its totally cool. Wouldnt you want someone someone inside the obama white house, susan rice, to say wait a second, this guy is running a campaign, a republican for president. Maybe we should pull back. It is being reported tonight byi sara carter at circa that her interest in the surveillance began in july when he got the nomination. That looks political to me. You are insinuating thats why susan rice did this. Tucker why would you be unmasking the names of people in the campaign against her preferred candidate . We know russia was engaging in hacking in the u. S. , interfering with the election. All 17 of our intelligence agencies have said tucker wait, stop. You brought this up and you act as if we all know this. I dont think we all do know this, actually. For all the evidence that has been thrown out there, all the leaking, the underlying evidence of the alleged crimes, they are being close held by the obama people. I cant discuss the underlying evidence. Why is that . T . What is this underlying evidence we all assume exist . No official with classified information can discuss that. Tucker tell that to mike flynn. If you want to talk about mike flynn, mike flynn lied to Vice President pence about the nature of conversations with tucker if you lied to mike pence then you can reveal evidence . People were unmasked, it was leaked. The fact that that was leaked, w that is improper. I agree with you. That those who would leak information probably broke the law. They should be investigated too. Tucker what is this about . We all assume that it we know russia hacked the election. I am just asking you why its not one person, not one, every single night characterized what exactly that means . Im getting very frustrated. I dont know what it means to hack in election. I do know what they did that they would constitute spying ont the Trump Campaign. They leaked those dnc emails out to impact the election. Tucker why wont all of our intelligence agencies director comey has said that. Tucker actually you can answer this question. I asked the ranking democrat adam schiff of burbank, california, can you look me straight in the face and say you have evidence that the russian government hacked john podesta or the dnc and he declined to do that. I just want to know unless you and i have to go on faith, we have to trust politicians in a political system on faith, why dont we get some evidence that any of this actually happened . Why do we have to nod and say yeah, wheres the evidence . I dont know why he would tell you that, maybe because the information he knew was classified but all of our intelligence agencies have reported that russia did hack into the dnc emails. If you talk to dnc officials, they will also tell you that within a few days after theirr emails had been hacked they knew it was russia. Agents of the russian government. If you dont care about facts tucker i care enough to ask real questions because i have learned in 30 years here dont take it on faith, get the facts. I am waiting for a single fact. Just one from any of these fabled 17 intelligence agencies. Maybe the coast guard can givewa me this one scintilla of evidence that the russian government of Vladimir Putin broke into johnn podestas emails. For the expressed purpose of we need a special commission to investigate a neutral, fair commission. Why wouldnt you agree with that . Dont you believe this is important . I know you dont get happened but tucker i am merely saying if we are going to destroy the lives of people and surveilled american citizens, we are going to break the basic bond oftr trust, watching me without my knowledge. Because we need to get to the bottom of this russian thing. Im asking for one person to give me one piece of evidence that this russia thing actually happened. E and nobody will. Thats very telling, dont you think . The evidence is coming out. Tucker the two intel committees havent come out with any of the stuff. We are still waiting. Last week that he has reviewed a lot of information, it gives him a great concern, he thinks its the most important thing he has ever worked on. Tucker im he believes that. Hes a republican. Tucker im not slacking on the republicans. I want facts. Let me tell you what an republican said senator mccain, a republican said we need a special commission to investigate this. Tucker i am glad senator mccain feels that way. You are a great journalist, you are asking the right questions. Youre skeptical that you would recognize that its important enough that we should investigate it. Tucker if john mccain says that we all have to nod and say yes. I all im asking for is one core piece of evidence. Justifying on american citizens. I think as a liberal you would say hey, man, i am concerned about spying in america. No one denies that a crimeld occurred. Russia hacked into dncs emails. Thats a crime. Hacking is a crime. We also know they were engagedke in other activities in hacking our election. Tucker give me some evidence. Or stop talking. Thats my view. We will have more on this developing story a little later on the show. The union fighting for 15 minimum wage teaming up now with black lives matters. Low wages are not just bad but they are racist . We will talk about what thatli means exactly. Tina fey shaming white collegeeducated women for voting trump. The weird story contest ahead. F you totaled your brand new car. Nobodys hurt, but there will still be pain. It comes when your Insurance Company says theyll only pay threequarters of what it takes to replace it. What are you supposed to do . Drive threequarters of a car . 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Joining us tonight from memphis, thank you for coming on. Thank you for having us. On the night of the anniversary of Martin Luther king jr. s assassination. Were going to lift and highlight the economic and refill indexes here. Tucker thats right, april 4th. Absolutely, the same way i we will link these two movements up and highlight all the things that weve been doing in this country for the 20 million workers who havent received ito wage increases. Tucker thats interesting, i am always for higher wages. Im not even here to make a case against raising the minimum wage. Im just surprised by your position on immigration. Thats what really shocked me. Fight racism and raise payroll rallying, immigrant rights. Trumps immigration ban. Given theres a lot of Economic Data that shows conclusively that largescale lowwage immigration lowers wages for American Workers, how in the world did you wind up advocating for Immigration Rights . What does that have to do with wages . Dv heres the real reality, when youre talking about racial andd economic justice, you have to remember what Martin Luther king said. Whats the use of being at theu counter if you cant afford the burger . Theres 64 million workers making less than 15 an hour, overwhelmingly they are black and brown people. With lowwage jobs. D 60 of latinos make less than 15 an hour. All records in this country, whether they are latino, black, white, woman or man, making a livable wage, we wont be able to get the economic engine of this country going and thats why states like texas and North Carolina and hawaii and chicago and illinois, so on and so forth are in the process of trying to raise wages for 15. Theres not a single city in this country where you can live for less than 15 an hour. Tucker im not disagreeing with you. Let me reask my question. There was a harvard study showing low skilled immigration, legal or illegal lowered wages for American Workers by about 402 billion a year. If you have a lot of people willing to work for less, wages do not go up. They go down. And yet thats an obvious point. I think you know it since you represent a labor union but you are taking the chamber of commerce position. Because it saves on labor. Its kind of a weird position for you to be taking, do you understand my question . Clearly, what im saying isis that the actual issue that your viewers want to know about is the 150 billion a year that your viewers are paying in order to subsidize Companies Like mcdonalds and Companies Like walm