And can republicans give up trump . The bigger question is whether democrats will be able to. That was apparent in this talk between Hillary Clinton and nancy pelosi as we wait for nancy pelosi to make her next move on impeachment. Theyre pushing for a 911type commission suggesting that he spoke with putin during the capitol hill riots. Listen to this. Historically we will find out who he is beholden to, who pulls his strings. Id love to see his phone records, see whether hes talking to putin the day the insurgents invaded our capitol. We know that not just him, but his enablers, his accomplices, his cult members have the same disregard for democracy. To the point of was he beholden to him, as i said in that picture with my blue suit as i was leaving, i was pointing rudely at him with you, mr. President , all roads lead to putin. I dont know what putin has on him, but what happened last week was a gift to putin. Martha here now joy murdock, National Review editor and andrew mccarthy, former federal prosecutor. Great to have you with us today. I think you could have taken that conversation and it could be a conversation from several years ago. That conversation continues to be ongoing. Its interesting to hear Hillary Clinton talk about phone records. Several of hers were missing as i remember over the course of those years and now she would like to dig into President Trump. Shes sure that he was talking to Vladimir Putin january 6. Your thoughts. Its extraordinary. I think trying to get this russia narrative out of Hillary Clintons hands is like trying to drag a rattler out of a baby. She want let go. Weve had these investigations to determine theres no collusion with the kremlin and President Trump or any members of his campaign or administration. Theyre still going on even though multiple investigations have said theres no such thing. Beyond that, look at the president s policies. He has gotten nato to increase spending by 2 of gdp. Four countries were doing that. Its now ten. And now sending javelin antitank missiles to the ukraine, making America Energy independent. This is not good for russia that exports hill. Look at Hillary Clinton among other things when she was secretary of state basically allowed a deal to go through to let the kremlin take over 20 of americas uranium supply. They put forth in the Clinton Foundation 140 million in donations. So she turned over uranium and took in 140 million. So what is playing footsies with the kremlin now . Martha reality checks are in order now when you listen to that and you go through the very strong and persuasive list that joy just laid out for us. What do you make of this conversation . Martha, im a lawyer, not a shrink. This is part reflection and part projection. As far as reflection, if theres one thing that we learned in the investigation into the way that the Law Enforcement and intelligence apparatus of the government was put in service of Democratic Party causes, specifically the Clinton Campaign in 2016, its that Hillary Clinton did more and her campaign did more to fuel the russian farce, the collusion thing, than anyone else did. Basically they financed the steele dossier, which was essentially the main substance of the illegal wiretapping that went on or the fisa applications that turned out to be based on nothing. Then if you go back to her role as secretary state during the obama years, he was point person for a lot of the obama administrations initiatives in connection with russia and the russia reset including this operation called scalcolvo, which helped russia develop their own Silicon Valley and made them according to the Defense Department and fbi more adept in their Cyber Security capabilities. So i would deflect blame someplace else too. Martha if nothing else, it shows a lack of selfawareness and looking back at the history of how all of this has gone. She used the word cult and we hear that word a lot right now. Its a word that is being brandished about to represent all people that supported President Trump over the past four years. Well talk about it later. I do want to play this sound bite and get your reaction to bill barr and an interview that he did with itv. Lets play that. I dont know if id use the word inevitable, but when your start suppressing free speech, when people lose confidence in the media and when they lose faith in the integrity of elections, youre going to have some people resort to violence. Martha i think its such an astute comment from the former attorney general. Going through Tucker Carlsons monologue last night, he cited Abraham Lincoln. These two comments, one from the attorney general that you just heard and this one from Abraham Lincoln have a lot of similarities. I want to read this. This is in 1838 when he was an Illinois House representative. Lincoln said good men seeing their property destroyed, their families insulted and live endangered, their persons injured and seeing nothing in prospect that forebodes a change nor the better become tired of and disgusted with a government that offers them no protection. So all the labels that are being thrown at these Trump Supporters and the disgruntled element that we see right now, what do you think when you hear those two comments . I think that people tucker had a good point the night of the capitol. He denounced it then and as i do now. He said we should ask the question, what causes people to do this . What leads them to ask in a horrible fashion . He said part of it is the feeling theyre ignored, not listened to. 75 Million People have serious questions about aspects of the election in nobody. November wanted to hear any of it. They could have said it might not have been enough to make a difference but we have a problem with these ballot dropoff boxes that are unsupervised. More ballots than voters. Lets look into it. They wanted to hear nothing about it. Some people got desperate and lashed out in a way that was very violent and deadly and took it way too far. Martha andy, last thought . I think its not a good idea to tar 75 Million People that voted for trump as if they had the same motivations. A lot of people that voted basically did what many people do in many elections, which is the lesser of two evils. But id also say that the history of this country and the history of free speech is that if you cut off peoples avenues of legitimate outreach and legitimate speech, political speech, the feelings and the fuelling behind it and the speech itself doesnt go away. It just seeks out worse sources and worse vehicles to get it out. This is a lot of fire were playing with right now. Martha so true. Wellsaid. Wellsaid. I remember a. G. Barr saying if you mess with the elections this time or you have millions of mailin ballots, youre playing with fire. We see thou this has all erupted with people feeling so disconnected and then being shot down by twitter and facebook for opening their mouth in some cases. Thanks very much. Andy, always good to see you. Thanks, martha. Martha all right. So we just received new details on the message of President Trumps farewell address, which is set to be released in the 4 00 p. M. Hour. A live report on what you can expect to hear there. Stay with us for that. 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Rapper lil wayne and for the tiger king fans, joe exotic is potentially on the list. Moments well hear from Alice Johnson who has been working behind the scenes after her life sentence was commuted by the president. But first, Kristin Fisher at the white house here today. Good afternoon, kristin. Martha, were waiting for in list of about 50 to 100 commutations and pardons to drop. President trump spent a lot of time in his final days in office finalizing this list with the white house counsel. Its been very fluid. Theres a few names that we can rule out. First of all and perhaps most importantly, sources are telling us that President Trump is not expected to issue a protective pardon for himself or for members of his family. Hes also not expected to pardon Julian Assange despite an Aggressive Campaign by the team to secure a pardon for its founder. Two well known rapper in trouble nor federal gun crimes are in the running. Lil wayne who pleaded guilty while traveling on a private jet with a gun. And kodak black. Both endorsed President Trump before election day. And steve bannon whose fate is unclear. Karl rove said he think a pardon for the former chief strategist would be a bad idea. Heres why. If the president , you know steve bannon is under indictment now for fraud, that just saying im going to do what i did for my man, Paul Manafort who was guilty of tax evasion, that would be very problematic. Also in the mix, joe exotic, in prison for a murder plot to kill carroll baskin. His team has a hair and limo and makeup team outside the prison waiting for him. So far very unclear if that is a realistic possibility from the white house. They have not commented on that at all today. The other big thing is this farewell video that President Trump recorded here at the white house. We know it will be released around 4 00 p. M. And we just got excerpts. Hes expected to have kind words for the incoming administration. Hes going to say that i pray for its success in keeping america safe and prosperous but he also wants to know that the movements we have started is only beginning. Then hes expected to go through some of what he believes are his greatest accomplishments. The president is expected to say im especially to be the first president in decades that started no new wars. Well be hearing from President Trump today. Its not going to be a live shot. This is something that was taped yesterday. So no plans right now to see President Trump in person on his final full day in office. Martha . Martha kristin, thank you very much. Just looking through some of these excerpts as well. He is also expected to say that no nation can thrive that loses faith in its own values, history and heros. For these are the very sources of our unity and our vitality. So well look for that to be released at around 4 00. Just about 40 minutes from now. Well keep a close eye on that. My next guest has insight on the individuals that could land on President Trumps pardon list today. Alice johnson has become a criminal Justice Reform advocate after she received a commutation and full pardon from the president. She spent 21 years in prison on a light drug offense. Welcome back, alice. Good to see you today. Good to see you too, martha. Martha thanks for being here. What are your thoughts on what we can expect and are there certain things that youve been asking for and people youve been asking for to be included on this list . Yes, i especially have been asking for nonviolent drug offenders that have been serving draconian sentences. I believe i made some very good headway. Theres others that i have been asking for that have had their sentences way too long. I put my hands, my head down and just trying to grind it out and the most deserving candidates i could to send to the white house. Martha so you have worked is it true that you worked closely with Jared Kushner on this effort and how much of a say do you believe youll have in the end . How many people of yours do you hope will end up on that finalist . I sent over 100 people in 2020. I know that all of them are not going to make it. I wanted to give them the best shot that i could. Ive been in close contact with jared hes worked hard on this. The unsung hero is ivanka. She rolled her sleeves up and jumped into the process of clemencies and pardons like you wouldnt believe. Shes worked through the weekend nonstop including jared. Shes really stepped in and just raised the bar of being a hardworking person that wants to make sure that as many receive their freedom today as possible. Martha alice, you know, its great to see you. So wonderful that you used your own freedom to create that environment for other people as well. We all look forward to seeing this list. Thank you. Great to see you, alice. Be well. 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More than 400,000 people have now died from covid19 here in the United States according to the studies by Johns Hopkins university. Theres more than 24 million cases in this country. President elect joe biden has big plans for faster citizenship here with People Living in the it illegally. He will shorten the 13 year wait down to eight years. We expect to hear more about that in his speech team in the first 100 days push of the biden administration. The a. P. Plan says theres no more border security. The live look at delaware where president elect joe biden is set to depart for joint base andrews in maryland. He begins to embark on his move to the white house where he will call home for the next four years. Were watching that movement with White House Correspondent kevin corke who is live in d. C. G