Arrive out of nowhere or cemetery logs that turn into a dead of night tiebreakers but the more we are learning about what happened, the more it looks like something more subtle, some manipulation that would favor in this case democrats. Through a series of state rule changes that kicked in in the weeks prior to the election, these changes made it easier to open up the spigot on what is an acceptable ballot. It got easier in the closing weeks to have a ballot to make it through than it had in the past. Thats what we are exploring tonight primarily in michigan and also in georgia. The New York Times back in september raised concerns about the mailin ballots that were coming in on normas numbers for the first time ever, setting analysis that found that in 24 primary elections this year more than 500,000 mailin ballots were rejected or 2 returned by voters, theres a growing concern that the number of ballots rejected could surpass 1 million. The democrat lawyer mark elias went to work, he spent a good part of the last year working on these election law changes, proudly tweeting images of lawsuits throughout the months for his side, he did a very good job on all of this. Remember this, when Stacey Abrams lost her Gubernatorial Election back in 2018, there was outcry. Even though there was a record turnout in that election year, her side it said there was Voter Suppression and claimed that she was the rightful governor of georgia. This is not a speech of concession, because concession means to acknowledge an action is right, true, or proper. Stacey abrams ought to be the governor of georgia. The election has been stolen from her using what i think are serious measures. Martha her side worked hard to change the rules so that wouldnt happen again, here is a senator Lindsey Graham talking about and the president election this year, the bar was lower. Between the elections in the primary and president ial on how to figure out what makes it acceptable and which ones are not acceptable. They had a 3. 5 rejection rate in the last election you know what the ballot rejection rate for signatures was in the selection . 0. 3 , the secretary of state did thats really polluted the database that you would compare a signature too. They failed to take people off the roles that are not eligible to vote. He got conned into signing a Consent Decree thats bad for georges election system. Martha congressman jeff collins represents the state of georgia and is leading the president s recount effort. Some of these rule changes they were put through, they were accepted by the legislature in the state of georgia, is this politics that you have to be really good at this stuff in order to figure out how to finetune it . I want to remind everybody that mark elias was working on those lawsuits is the same lawyer who was working in connection to steele dossier in terms of getting that rolling and hes been hard at work in this project but has there been anything illegal . If we want to talk about the steele dossier, thats a whole different issue. Martha im just reminding people why they know that name. I understand this didnt go through the legislature. The Consent Decree did not go through the legislature, it was based on lawsuits the Democratic Party in georgia did to weaken the standard on which verifications in georgia are made on absentee ballots. In georgia if you vote early in person, you have to actually show a physical ballot photo i. D. But with these signature ballots, you did not end the way a consent degree is working signed in march of this year is they can compare it to any signature. At some places did not go back to the registered voter card, they went back comparing it to the application for the absentee ballot with the ballot itself which opens itself up for fraud. Also them coming down in georgia let me be real clear. There is not a Voter Suppression, the only Voter Suppression coming from Stacey Abrams complaining about this when she got beat. From 2014 to max 2020, the issue of minority participation voting in georgia has doubled. Weve had 10 to at 12 to make a 15 increase, an africanamerican and hispanic male and female voting. The only issue of Voter Suppression is the Democrat Party suppressing the vote and trying to make it work where they can have signatures not in check. The issue is plain, you dont know 3 rejection rate in an election in which you have substantial amount of absentee ballots over what you had in 2018, its just wrong. Martha we made that point, turnout was higher in Stacey Abrams election even though she claimed there was Voter Suppression in that election. The question becomes when you look at this variance there, the ballots that were able to get through and we know in some cases and tell me if this was the case in georgia did they change the sensitivity level on what matches on a signature so that some of these machines you can turn it up or turn it down in terms of how close, what percentage close that signature needs to be . The voter match here, was actually physically looking at the different ballots. This is an issue of they are supposed to be checking when they actually are not and that has become the issue we are trying to deal with with the secretary of state. You talked about ballots being found if we had not asked for this recount in georgia, you realize there wouldve been over 3,000 votes for the president , 8,000, 10,000 votes in total that were never counted. If two weeks after the fact in the last 48 hours, they found these ballots that were never counted. This is the problem we are finding in georgia, in addition to these procedural issues, we are finding places that were not even counted and then on top of that, talk about issues with secretary of state, we are finding out local election boards were never given instructions on what to set those machines to to look for extraneous marks, over votes, under votes they never got instructions from the secretary of state on what to set it at. You had 159 counties left to their own decision on how to actually set their machines. Martha all of this is so eyeopening in a gut wrenching way for americans all across the country when you learn how willynilly some of these processes are across the country, they are different in every single state. There isnt a federal standard by which we vote in this country and no matter what happens, i think its a huge eyeopener in terms of how all of this works behind the scenes. You said back on november 9th we are confident we will find evidence of improperly harvested ballots and other irregularities that will prove President Trump won georgia, do you stand by that today on november 19th . Are you going to prove that . I stand by the fact we have found votes the president didnt get, we are looking for those votes as they are finishing up in georgia. We have found issues we cant get into as far as the absentee ballot signature issue, issues of asking the secretary of state to open this up exactly where the ballots came from. If we continue this process, there should be enough interest in georgia and across the country to say what actually happened and knowing the processes were followed in georgia, knowing we just found all of these ballots that were never counted and still trying to work and get through the issues of matching verification that we did not have an answer to. Martha i think a lot of people across this country are tired of being told they arent allowed to ask questions about how this works and being shut down we see twitter and facebook canceling people for bringing up this issue and wanted to know more about it. This is an Interesting Exchange between jack dorsey at twitter and senator ted cruz. With the following statement violate twitters policies . Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud. We would label it so people can have more context. Youve taken the political position of voter fraud doesnt exist, i would note both of those quotes come from the Carter Baker Commission on federal election reform, democratic president jimmy carter. As one who has been regularly censored by twitter, it doesnt surprise me. Everything that remotely resembles a question about this election is being tagged with some kind of a statement at the bottom they dont like the president , they never like the president , they didnt want him to be reelected, we had proof of that from google and facebook and others and we been trying to expose it and most media would never touch it doesnt surprise me they are going to trying to spin a narrative that everything was fine until all of a sudden we started finding ballots. Youve been asking the right questions, weve got to make sure this is open and transparent so americans can have trust in their voting system. In georgia, we have an election on january 5th. Martha whats going to change between now and then the in these rules and how can both sides make sure that there isnt any discrepancies . Sunlight is a great disinfectant and we got to put pressure on these counties to make sure they are taking proper precautions with her absentee ballots, there are other issues and weve got to have people turn out, theyve got to be part of this process. Our secretary of state has got to give clear instructions to these counties on how they are to count the boat so that people can trust to their vote is being counted. Martha you have to make sure you have observers on both sides who can report back to their side i watched everything, this is the way it went down. What about President Trump in georgia . Do believe hes going to campaign for these candidates and if he doesnt, do you think they have a shot . I think he gets through with making sure his election is taken care of, hes always been supportive of the party and of these candidates, he understands the real nature of what is at stake here. This is a Chamber Majority in the senate if these republicans are not reelected i support them, they need to be reelected because we have a real choice down here. You have david perdue and Kelly Loeffler who represent a conservative majority and youve got all soft and warnock. Theres a problem in this election down here and unfortunately we are having to deal with the mechanics of the election rather than whats going to happen on january 5th. Martha 8 out of 10 donors for the democratic candidate coming from out of state, money flowing in from everywhere for those races. Congressman collins, thank you very much. President trump reportedly summoning two republican legislators from michigan to the white house and what could be an attempt to use the state law to try to overturn the michigan election results. As you can imagine, this has got a lot of people up in arms and interested in what could happen there tomorrow at the white house. Guide benson with analysis next. We made usaa insurance for veterans like martin. When a hailstorm hit, he needed his insurance to get it done right, right away. Usaa. What youre made of, were made for. Usaa come out of the dryer wrinkled . Usaa. What youre made of, were made for. Next time try bounce wrinkle guard dryer sheets. The worlds first mega sheet with 3x more wrinkle relaxers. Look at the difference of these two shirts. 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Joining me now, guide benson, a host of the guide benson show and fox news contributor, good to have you with us this evening. All of this is confusing, the wayne canvassing board are the two republicans and democrats who have been fighting that weve been watching on zoom lately and theyve been going back and forth on their decision, now they say they dont want to certify tonight i want to get everybody up to speed on news that broke a few moments ago which is that one of the two republican members of the four member michigan canvassing board, the state canvassing board says that he is leaning towards asking for a delay in certification and calling for an audit of the state, he says there are concerns, theyre going to delay the certification, your thoughts on whats going on there. The Trump Campaign in that press Conference Today claimed that they dropped their michigan suit because they got their desired remedy which was a delay in the certification in wayne county which isnt what happened. They did certify in wayne county, now youre asking for take backs from the republicans but im not really sure how that works legally speaking. What you just described would be a significant update should the other republican go along with it and there is some sort of stalemate in the state of michigan on the deadline for certification whether there is some sort of followup investigation or whatever word they want to use to describe it for that to take place. Were still talking about a pretty limited timeline to have an audit. I think the story we lead within the segment about these lawmakers, these leaders from michigan who will lead to the state legislature being summoned to washington by the president i dont think its totally outofbounds by any stretch to people wonder okay, you look at the context, you look at the timing, why is this happening, why is the president asking these lawmakers to come to washington and is he going to try to apply some pressure on them to perhaps i dont know, put in a different slate of electors through the state legislature, doing an end run around the borders of michigan, that is at least part of the speculation. I think we should wait and keep our powder dry and see what actually happens, but i think people asking those questions and may be drawing those conclusions, it is not completely baseless. You can connect a few dots here, it is possible. Martha we have seen in 2016, there were a few electors whose states voted for President Trump who became what is called a faithless elector and they did not put their elect doors towards President Trump and the end. It just going through it michigan law is, it does not include a provision for the legislature to directly select electors or to award electors to anyone other than the person who received the most votes. We know joe biden is ahead by 150,000 votes in michigan. This route does seem like a long shot. Its and extreme long shot and both of the Republican Leaders that are coming to washington for this meeting tomorrow or on the record as saying were not going to do anything like that. And i think thats the right thing for them to say. I know tensions are high and frustration is high and suspicion is high among many people in this country, particularly trump supporter us but i think in a counterfactual or a hypothetical, if four years ago we saw exactly this type of machination from democrats where President TrumpPresident Trump had won estate or two and Hillary Clinton and her Campaign Said well, the people have spoken but were not really sure because russia, maybe they were involved in a lot of democrats believed that, still believe that even though there is no basis that they changed any votes thats a popular belief on the left. If the Clinton Campaign said we dont think this is fair and legitimate, lets wait or lets maybe see with what the legislators can do to put different electors in there and put us in the white house and barack obama is going to summon some democrats from the states to say what are you doing in your states, lets see what we might be able to do here i think conservatives would rightly have been in the streets screaming their heads off and i would have right there with them because thats not what we do in this country. That would be a shocking departure from our system of governance and the transfer of power in this country. I think this is a very dangerous path to even consider let alone go down. I am very suspicious or skeptical that were going to get even close to it, but the fact that we are talking about it frankly is unsettling. Martha there are some that say the seeds of distrust in the election are paving the way for the president to say that it was illegitimate over the course of the next few years if he decides he wants to run again. We know on Hillary Clintons side, she told joe biden not to concede under any circumstances in this election, its been fraught on both sides since thed be sitting on their side if the outcome wouldve been different. Thank you. The two g. O. P. Members of the wayne county board of canvassers Monica Palmer and William Hartman will speak exclusively to Laura Ingraham at 10 00 p. M. Tonight, remember some of what was spewed at them, we will show you some of those horrible videos, shes going to talk to them tonight. Up next on the stor