"the new york post" puts the spotlight once again on the biden family finances. supported emails and photos raise new questions about how the biden's have made their money during a lifetime in politics. and why hunter biden would have actively sought business deals with countries his father was dealing with at the time. those countries were not the u.k., france or italy. they were billion-dollar arrangements, reportedly, with russia, ukraine, and china. we have known for some time that at least hundreds ukraine deals troubled the obama administration. in a whole nother layer of the story you've got twitter and facebook blocking "the new york post." astray they did actively again today and these are ongoing investigative pieces and you can't find them on twitter or facebook. that's another element all of this but first to break it all down now is the person who was at the center of all of this, the new york city mayor and attorney to the president rudy giuliani. thank you for being here tonight. >> good to be with you, martha. how are you? >> martha: doing fine. >> healthy? >> martha: yes, i'm glad you are not coughing like you were last time. but you were negative, so good news. i want to get to the origins of all this in a moment but last time we talked about ukraine, we showed the ukraine emails and tonight i want to ask you some questions about the china side of this story in particular, and what the deal was, as you understand it, that hunter biden was there that involved the state bank of china and involved the key players in this deal and we have a full screen here that shows one of the emails from james gill ear, so explain to people what you think was going on here. >> we have two deals that i've analyzed in china and they are two very big ones. one was the investment in the hunter biden, chris hines, and bolger private equity fund that was owned by the vice president's son, the secretary of state's stepson, and the nephew, believe it or not, of bolger. and the chinese government over period of time through the bank of china committed $1.5 billion and became a partner. joe biden while vice president was negotiating with china and i might say getting his head kicked in, contemporaries reports will tell you that, even "the new york times." he was losing on every point in china. his son, the secretary of state's stepson, and the nephew to one of the biggest organized criminals in america got a $1.5 billion commitment to their totally useless private equity fund. at a time when the emails will demonstrate that hunter biden was seriously suffering from drug addiction. there's no doubt china had all the pictures i now have of him as a drug addict. he was continuously a drug addict from 2014 until as recently as 2020. he got kicked out -- remember, he got kicked out of the navy after only two months. his father pulled all kinds of strings to get him in at 40. you usually get in for some kind of specialty. they put him in public relations, hardly a specialty. within two months he couldn't stop taking crack cocaine. he failed in his rebound was his father getting him the deal with one of the most crooked men in ukraine. this china deal -- >> martha: go ahead. >> would happen when his father took him over on air force 2. his father was trying to negotiate with china get them out of the islands they were disputing with japan. he failed to do that. but joe came back with nice, good words about china. he's the one who said china is not a threat, china is not a competitor. he's the only man in the world who would say that. was that influenced by the fact that the son, who is a serious drug addicts, got $1.5 billion in commitments from china? that's an extraordinary amount of money -- >> martha: i want to get to the email you were talking about and just show everybody this email. this was part of "the new york post" investigation and it's all coming off of this laptop and it says come at the moment, a provisional agreement that the equity will be distributed and it says 20 will go to h and goes through different initials, i suppose. there is one that age. i would assume you believe that means hunter. at the bottom it says 10 will be held by h for the big guy. tell me what this means. >> you've got to guess who the big guy's? if you need any guessing about who the big guy is all you have to do is take a look at the arrangement made for the office of this business where the chinese communist government was up partner. when the offices opened, hunter biden sends a memo in the first two people he puts down to have keys to the office are joe biden and joe biden. joe biden and james biden were all going to have offices with the government of china essentially. >> this is a different one. >> martha: do you have evidence this means joe biden? give evidence that that is -- >> no, the only evidence -- the only evidence i have right now is here it says big guy and here it says that he's the first person to get a key in the office that this business is going to occupy. we've got to put those two things together. but i haven't finished yet with the hard drive. there are some extraordinary things on it and i don't know. >> martha: let me ask you -- >> if i was in court i would put these two things together. there's a certain amount of unbelievable, unbelievable expansion of reality that's given to biden. i mean, who would up about the big" be? >> martha: i thought this is very interesting, this is it text message from this morning, from hunter biden to his daughter naomi and on this text message it says i love all of you but i don't receive any respect and that's fine i guess. works for you, apparently. i hope you all can do what i did and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years. it's really hard. but don't worry, unlike popeye won't make you give me half your salary. this, obviously -- i want to point out that your main argument here appears to be, not that there was a quid pro quo, that there was policy impact on what he is doing, but he was the moneymaker for the biden family and that is at the very least unethical in terms of the way the money is being made, attaching himself to the vice president and that is the only way. >> no, not quite correct. >> martha: in what way? >> no, it is in. my argument as this is a racketeering case that went on for 30 years. i mentioned 30 years a year ago probably on your show. for 30 years the biden family has been selling joe's office to the highest bidder. >> martha: let me ask you this, where did this text message come from? this text message is not used in "the new york post" investigation which is based on the hard drive if you get them. also, people can claim that have concerns about the origin of this hard drive and whether or not it's some form of russian disinformation, which i want you to reply to. claimed that there is no metadata attached to it. there's no address on this text message, as approved everybody right now that this text message is legit. can you? >> yes, i can. i mean, i can't right now. it comes right off the hard drive. "the new york post" has the hard drive, they just elected not to publish it. i don't know if you have the two messages. >> martha: we do, we have it on the screen right now. >> the daughter's name. i mean, look, the hard drive is eventually going to be out and if it's not, put me in jail. i'm telling you what's on the hard drive. that's where i took this from. >> martha: how do you know the hard drive definitely belongs -- >> you think the russians gave it to me? [laughs] >> martha: i am telling you because there are these questions you know you are aware of some give me a chance to -- >> this isn't from russia! look, this is a deal, every witness told me existed. hunter just wrote it out for us. this is outlined in the first chapter of the book "secret empire." this is the way the chinese do corruption. they don't pay the principal. they paid the relatives so they don't have to file around him. this is what he paid a billion dollars in fines for. >> martha: none of this looks good and none of this -- >> of course it doesn't look good! >> martha: the way anyone would operate in relation to the vice president of the united states and a family member who is making money off that position, i'm just merely asking to explain some of the origin so that you can put to rest some of these things that are out there that are trying to shoot down your evidence here. and i was just asking if you can identify them and answer for that. >> i can. the answer is it's on the hard drive. the hard drive will eventually be examined by anyone who wants to examine it. i wouldn't buy it -- you to send someone from fox to my office? they can look at this, they can look at the hard drive. i will show it to them tomorrow. i have it memorized exactly where it is on the hard drive. i have to tell you, i've only been able to go through a third of the hard drive. and my people have only been able to go through a third and i think "the post" has probably only gone through 20% of it. it's huge. and i hate bringing up the fact that he's a drug addict because i feel sorry for him as a drug addict. but there is something really important about that. the first thing is it's a national security risk. i mean, remember how the democrats were all worried that the russians had all these bad tapes on donald trump? >> martha: a and you saw that all over twitter. nobody blocked any of that. >> and the chinese have those tapes on hunter biden and joe biden's family. >> martha: all right all right. >> and the tapes are horrendous. >> martha: we want to continue to -- go ahead. >> they could squeeze joe anytime they want. they could squeeze joe with us anytime they want. the second transaction we are talking about was actually, in my view, set up for the purpose of squeezing joe biden because -- >> martha: one last question from those who are challenging this and that's on andre to he has now been determined by investigation of the u.s. treasury department to be a russian agent who is waging a covert influence campaign to affect the u.s. election by releasing information about purported biden wrongdoing. he someone you spent several months with. he's a former member of the ukraine parliament. what do you say to that? >> first of all, i didn't spend several months with him. i met with him three times over three months. second of all he gave me no relevant information about joe biden. his information relates to $5.3 billion in foreign aid that's missing in ukraine, $3 billion of which is american, which he alleges the obama administration covered up. it's already led to the prosecution of two people for embezzling about $140 million who were closely associated -- he actually worked for george soros. he gave me no information on hunter biden, joe biden -- >> martha: nothing connected at all? >> zero. zero. >> martha: okay, just wanted to ask you because that is some of the reporting that is out there. we always go overtime whenever we talk. i want you to come back so we can do this -- >> they are going to throw every piece of dirt they can. >> martha: rudy giuliani, thank you -- >> every piece of dirt they can but i can take it. >> martha: thank you very much, good to have you here. with the hearing over and how, president trump is confident now that his supreme court pick will be confirmed and senate judiciary committee lindsey graham when the story continues. >> it's the law of the american people. who is usaa made for? 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>> i think it went very well. judge barrett prove to the country any fair-minded person she is qualified to be on the court. senator feinstein is going to vote against the nominee. she has opposed the process at every turn. i respect her, she respects me. they are in charge of the democratic party. in their world you can't even have mutual respect, it's mutual destruction. i hope people understand the folks pushing the democratic party object to senator feinstein saying something nice about me. god help us all if they get in control of the government. >> martha: occasionally there is a yearning for the cordiality that used to exist in these forums and i think we saw a little bit of that. there is a whole nother side that seems to want to dig in their heels and not go back there. i thought you said something interesting, the qualification test to me seems to be dead and buried with everybody but me. what did you mean by that? >> i voted for judge seto mayor understanding they had a different judicial philosophy. justice scalia got 97 votes, i think. justice ginsburg got like, 96. they are polar opposites in terms of judicial philosophy. it used to be in the senate you looked at qualifications, understanding elections matter, but why is it always conservatives, thomas, kavanaugh. what i would say to my democratic colleagues, i respect you, i want to work with you but you try to destroy judge kavanaugh's life. i don't need any lectures from democrats on this committee about fair. i would love to do it differently. when it was my turn to be where you are at i voted for judge stoudemire and judge kagan and how do we get repaid? you tried to destroy kavanaugh. the good thing as there was no kavanaugh-like attack on judge barrett. i think they learned their lesson and i hope this sets the tone for the future the future. >> martha: as we all remember we were at this stage when the kavanaugh allegations began. now you talk about october 22nd, 7 long days when everyone looks at this process and says it was handled well. do you sense that there is anything in the works to try to gum up this boat? >> i don't know but after the kavanaugh experience i don't sleep well at night. i sleep with one eye open. there are groups out there who are attacking senator feinstein for showing common courtesy. only god knows what they would do. i can tell you this, when it comes to this election cycle, democrats have raised about $400 million since the passing of justice ginsburg to destroy people like me. my opponent raised $57 million because i dare stood up for kavanaugh and i'm helping trump. if you want to help me, lindsey graham.com, i've got amy's back. they are trying to destroy this fine nominee in judge barrett. they do so at their own peril. if senator schumer and this crowd does this again i think it will blow up in their face even worse than kavanaugh. >> martha: that's what i wonder, there's definitely a political assessment to be made, whether or not it's worth it and there were indications that it was politically a mistake. when you look at the polls in south carolina and you just mentioned you were in a tight race. your opponent has raised $20 million more than the highest racing senate candidate which was beto o'rourke before that, so there's a ton of money going into this race to end your time in washington, but look at this, in south carolina, 52% support amy coney barrett, 30% oppose and 17% apparently, i don't know, doesn't know or hasn't decided after the course of this week. do you think this has a positive impact on your campaign overall? the latest numbers i saw for you are up a 6. >> oh, my god, does this have a positive impact from a customer absolutely. thank you president trump for nominating a pro-life, unashamedly religious woman who has the qualifications and the disposition for the court. to all the young women wondering if it's okay to be pro-life, if it's okay to embrace your faith, the answer is yes. this is a historic moment for the country to have somebody like justice baird to go on the court but when it comes to south carolina, we want conservative judges, we don't want liberal judges. judge barrett will play very well in south carolina and i think she's playing very well around the country. she is unashamedly religious but she will not impose your religion on you or me. she is going to view the law through the lens of an originalist, which should be comforting to everybody. she will not be a legislator in a robe. she will apply the lot of the facts and we should all be pleased. finally, to all the young women, there's a place at the table for you. >> martha: heard you say that a couple times to the course of this proceeding and i think it was heard across the country by a lot of young women who may be sometimes feel like they are shut out of the conversation and it's not okay to feel the way that they feel and of course everyone should have the freedom to think what they feel and be able to have friendships on both sides of that equation. let's play this, just a quick moment for you today and i want to get your thoughts on it before we say goodbye. >> y'all have a good chance of winning the white house. i don't know where the polls are going to be. >> thank you for acknowledging that. >> i think it's true. >> martha: what he think of this race? 90 days to go, you sound like it could go biden's direction. >> i think president trump is going to win because the people who are trying to destroy dianne feinstein's life because she gave me a hug at trying to the court, more justices to make it liberal, to change the rules of the senate, do away with electoral college, the most dominant agenda in modern history is being pushed. that's why think president trump is going to win, i know that's what he's going to win in south carolina. i know that's why i'm going to win. is it close? >> hell yes it's close but trump god hell of a first term , talk more about it. >> martha: good to see you tonight. >> thank you. >> martha: 19 more days, that is how long undecided voters have to make their choice for president. we are going to talk to three of them from three battleground states after this. knowing who we are is hard. it's hard. eliminate who you are not first, and you're going to find yourself where you need to be. ♪ the race is never over. the journey has no port. the adventure never ends, because we are always on the way. ♪ ♪ >> martha: two of the big stories dominating the campaign trail this week i'm a biden's email revelations, reported email revelations that we were just talking to the former mayor of new york about and also the big hearing that dominated this week for judge amy coney barrett for the supreme court. both of them unfolding just two weeks since the president confirmed his covid diagnosis which surprised a lot of people and made a lot of news. three undecided voters from crucial battleground states, a financial analyst from florida who voted for gary johnson in 2016. he is a registered republican. caitlin singleton, democrat from wisconsin, rental housing site manager, mom of three voted for hillary clinton last time around aunt andrew rodney of michigan, coo of a plastic manufacturing company. he is an independent. thank you so much for all of you for being here tonight. you spoke with us several weeks back and since the last time we spoke, a lot of things have happened and one of the biggest stories this week has been hearings for amy coney barrett, did you watch them and did they have any influence on how you are thinking now? >> yeah, i did watch them. i taped them and watch them when my kids went to bed, all of the hearings. i don't think they necessarily had an impact on how i'm voting. i'm still undecided at this point. i was hoping the debate would clear that up for me. they did not. i'm crossing my fingers the next debate coming up will clear it up for me as time is definitely taking now. i have mixed feelings about the hearing. i support the appointee, i think she's incredibly skilled, i think that was very evident in the hearing, i am also a catholic and pro-life so i do -- those personal aspects resonate with me. but i do have issues with the process and the double standards from what happened the last time around with garland. so i have mixed feelings about it. i do support the appointee, though, and it does not have any impact on my voting. >> martha: okay. christopher, what is playing large in your mind as you look at some of these big stories lately? >> with acb, i think she's a fantastic woman, she is more character than anyone in this country. she adopted two kids from a third world country, gave them a great life. my wife used to serve in haiti and i've heard stories of how rough it is there in the fact that -- she's treated kind of parlor, which is expected. but the packing of the court, that is absurd. one of the three major powers of the country, and what happens when a republican becomes president down the road? they are going to re-packet and then we are going to have 100 judges at some point they keep getting power, it's ridiculous. >> martha: good point. what about you, andrew, with you are hearing and the things that are the input for your decision? i was that playing out right n now? >> it a lot of noise. they are just shoving everything at you now and attacking everybody. but amy coney barrett, again, high character. she doesn't have a lot of legal experience but she's going to get appointed, so move on. it would be great if the senate could do more effective business than just have this political theater. and that's how a lot of this feels. the debates were certainly disappointing. trump just embarrassed himself, and biden didn't really bring anything new. and the hunter biden revelation is nothing new. this is the way it's been, influence peddling. no real change in my perspective except probably more disenchanted with trump. but biden has done nothing at all except make himself look -- make trump look worse. that's about it. at the disappointing election. we need to fix the political system that's causing this cancer to our country. >> martha: how do you think you will vote if you had to vote today question work what would you do? >> i'm probably leaning to vote for third party candidate for the libertarian party or writing somebody and, actually, and then i worry about democrats taking full control of the entire government. i might vote for a republican senate campaign -- candidate, for the sake of avoiding that. and our house candidates. i'm uncertain. you know, to be honest and a lot of elections, i don't vote. if i don't know somebody, i don't know their background, i don't vote and i wish more people who didn't really understand the details wouldn't vote. it's like amy coney barrett. if you are not a legal expert, you don't know the background, to sit there and express your opinion, it's good for people to know but let the more important people in the position - -- >> martha: i thought it was a good education and a lot of that, listening to it over the course of this week. she served as court judge for three years so she has quite a bit of experience and also is a legal professor. caitlin, tell me about wisconsin right now. what's your field for which way wisconsin might be leaning? >> you know, it's hard to tell. where i'm at, in middleton, i don't see a single trump sign. maybe one or two. everything is biden. one thing i'm noticing that's very different from the last election in 2016 is when i go through rural wisconsin i'm seeing a lot of biden signs on farms, and in 2016 that was all trump. so that is definitely a change, although you go to different counties and it's all trump. it's really hard to tell. it's hard to tell. >> martha: real quickly, just about 20 seconds, what's your feel for florida? >> i think trump is going to win it. a cuban-american population, i'm a first-generation cuban-american. we feel proud of this country. the democrats seem to hate this country. we are all minorities and we made it to this country so i think it's going to be trump in florida. >> martha: great to have all of you with us. thank you for sharing your viewpoints this evening and for being here. thank you all. all right, chairman ron johnson of the committee now investigating these alleged biden emails. he's coming up. his committee also looked into this that we we will see what he thinks now and next, dr. shelby steele as canceled culture strikes his new documentary exploring race relations in america. glad to have him back on the show. he is next. >> absolutely, race played a significant part of the reaction. >> what happened in ferguson was more about america, the very same america that would explode in 2020. they heard... ..."you have cancer." how their world stopped and when they found a way to face it. for some, this is where their keytruda story begins. keytruda- a breakthrough immunotherapy that may treat certain cancers. one of those cancers is advanced nonsquamous, non-small cell lung cancer where keytruda is approved to be used with certain chemotherapies as your first treatment if you do not have an abnormal "egfr" or "alk" gene. keytruda helps your immune system fight cancer, but can also cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body. this can happen during or after treatment and may be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have new or worse cough, chest pain, shortness of breath, diarrhea, severe stomach pain or tenderness, nausea or vomiting, rapid heartbeat, increased hunger or thirst, constipation, dizziness or fainting, changes in urine or eyesight, muscle pain or weakness, joint pain, confusion or memory problems, fever, rash, itching, or flushing. these are not all the possible side effects. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions, including immune system problems, or if you've had an organ transplant, had or plan to have a stem cell transplant, or have lung, breathing, or liver problems. today, keytruda is fda-approved to treat 16 types of advanced cancer. and is being studied in hundreds of clinical trials exploring ways to treat even more types of cancer. it's tru. keytruda from merck. see the different types of cancer keytruda is approved to treat at keytruda.com, and ask your doctor if keytruda can be part of your story. 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[laughs] so i can waive my flag and ask for redress too. >> martha: i want to plane of the peace of this that may have also provoked to this action. listen to this part of the documentary. >> perhaps the most insidious feature of liberalism after the 1960s is that it dismisses individual responsibility as an agent of black uplift. problems are always the fault of a systemic enemy, like racism. let's ask a daring question. one that a group like black lives matter would forbid. his michael brown in any way responsible for his own death? liberalism invisible-eyes all of black america. it leaps over our actual problems to highlight racism as the source of all our ills. >> martha: in 2020 those are very strong words. and in many corners, they don't go down well. kamala harris had tweeted about the murder of michael brown at one point in "the washington post" gave that four pinocchios purity of school children across america doing hands up, don't shoot exercises and you are undercutting and shedding light on that in a different way, sir. >> all of these incidentses, freddie gray, trayvon martin, michael brown, the fascination with them again is that -- here's the idea of blacks being victimized by whites. that is our avenue, as a minority. that's our avenue to entitlement, to power. our power in american life as blacks is in our victimization. we haven't invented the computer, we didn't do a number of other things, we are, though, victims of american evil. and that gives us a moral authority that constitutes raw power. and we'll do anything to protect it, and we then use that power to shakedown institutions like amazon, who need are in for mature in order for their brand to seem innocent of racism, so it's a symbiotic problem that then all of america has to deal with. >> martha: i think people should know that reverend al sharpton is in this documentary, the naacp. there's a lot of different viewpoints presented here and it is called "what killed michael brown." dr. shelby steele, thank you very much for bringing it to us and we look forward to talking to you again soon. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> martha: chairman ron johnson on the plan to investigate a brand-new probe of alleged hunter biden documents and a new "washington post" story about this just coming out tonight after this. ♪ >> martha: after our interview with president trump's attorney rudy giuliani after his involvement with the emails, "the washington post" was reporting the white house was warned giuliani was being used to send russian disinformation to the president. senator ron johnson joins me now, than thank you so much forg here tonight. are you aware of those reports, that robert o'brien had information from our intelligence services that rudy giuliani was possibly the target of being fed some of this russian information? are you aware of those? >> i'm aware that russia continues to try to influence and interfere in our election, i'm also aware that democrats created a false intelligence product falsely accusing chuck grassley and eye of accepting russian disinformation which we did not do from that same individual. the we didn't know who the guy was -- i also know there's a fair amount of false allegations being thrown around as well. >> martha: we didn't even get into this part of it with rudy giuliani but this guy who owns a computer store who claims that hunter biden dropped off his laptop there and he was concerned about it, it was left there indefinitely so he owns the laptop under an agreement -- that laptop information was also sent to your office, why didn't you bring this story out? that you have concerns about the nature of this information? >> we were contacted by the whistle-blower, normally i wouldn't be talking about this because we maintain anonymity of whistle-blowers, the day after we issued reports we are contacted -- we talked to the individual and we started our due diligence process of validating and verifying the information he provided us. we reached out to the fbi, it took them over a week to get back to us and give us no response. through the public reporting, we note the fbi obtained this computer through a warrant or through a subpoena in december of 2019 and i think the fbi has to come clean in terms of did they receive this, have they done forensics on this computer, what did they know about it? have they investigated this? have they tried to verify some of these emails -- in other words, were these recipients -- have they verified these were true emails, true photos, true videos? the fbi had this in december of 2019 right in the midst of the whole impeachment process, there might be information relevant to our investigation, there might be information relevant to the impeachment -- if the fbi sat on this computer and did nothing with it, they need to explain to us why, but they also need to explain to us what they did with it. this is important information for the american public to sort through. >> martha: absolutely it is. i think people need to know whether this is -- whether they verified, if the fbi verified this laptop ever belonged to hunter biden, that's a basic thing that i would imagine they would be able to figure out, so we need to go through this every step of the way and to determine whether or not this information is verifiable. very quick thought, i got to go. >> they do and this isn't a normal criminal investigation where if they investigate somebody and find nothing they completely keep that confidential. this is wrongdoing of the political realm and the american public deserve to know the tru truth. >> martha: thank you very much, more on "the story" right after this. joe biden was raised with middle class values. joe doesn't need to be the center of attention. or see himself on tv. he has always focused on getting the job done. joe led us out of the 2008 recession, and increased health coverage for millions. as president, joe will focus on getting us out of our crises. he'll listen to experts, work across the aisle. and put the american people first. ff pac is responsible for the content of this ad. >> martha: that is a story on this thursday night, but as always the story continues -- we will be back with you tomorrow night at 7:00, have a great night everybody, tucker is up next. if ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," there's an awful lot of noise in the news right now, as you would expect -- there is an election coming three weeks away. everyone wants to get a blow in before it's too late but not everything you hear is untrue and not every story is complex. at the heart of the growing biden ukraine scandal is a very straightforward question -- did joe biden subvert foreign policy in order to enrich his own family wes mackey was the sitting president of the

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