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He went to pyongyang in 2011. It would be the first between the United States president and socalled dear leader of the hermit nation. Met last week in finland to discuss the parameters of this possible would be historic summit. This as we watch the markets roller coaster on a looming trade war with china and rally in recent sessions on the possibility that china might be coming to the table to potentially renegotiate some of their deals. Today, the president was on the phone with Prime Minister Angela Merkel of germany and president macron of france. He was urging these two allies to join forces in pressing china for better terms and to halt the theft of intellectual property. All of this as russia continues to react, somewhat mutedly to the largest expulsion of intelligence operatives in the u. S. And around the globe in history. All of that with a back drop the president s approval numbers have been inching upward to their highest approval numbers in months. The latest fox news poll finds 45 of voters approve. That is up two points since february. A new cnn poll shows 42 approve. Thats the highest its been since his 100th day in office. Joining me now is senator Lindsey Graham South Carolina senator. Good to see you tonight. Good evening. There is a lot to talk about. Martha there is a lot to talk about. First of all, your thoughts about possible meeting in South Carolina and what might hav. We have had appeasemet mentality in north korea. The president told north korean regime i dont want a war but will stop you from joining icbm missile on top to hit the american homeland. If i have to go to war to stop you, i will. I think he has got north koreas attention. He has convinced china he is serious. He has gotten them to the table u nobody else was able to do it. Jimmy carter is upset with jim bolton. We tried it to the jimmy carter way for 30 years. Lets try it to the donald trump and john bolton way. Im very excited to hear about what could happen. Martha its interesting to hear about these phone conversations between Angela Merkel and president macron. Yes. Martha when raised these notions haze taker call backlash. You cant do that terrible impact on your own countrys economy. This is classic, if you read the 30yearold book art of the deal, its throw out that sort of dramatic first marker and then kind of work your way back from there and something is better than nothing. Well, fire and fury worked when it came to north korea. We have the best chance in the last 30 years to end the north Korean Nuclear program and maybe sign a peace treaty with north korea, china, and south korea to end the korean war. If i were President Trump, i would think big. In terms of pushing bang againsbackagainst chinas cheatg they still intellectual trading. They require to you Chinese Business partner. Once you get up running two years later all your intellectual property is used by somebody across the street, fully owned Chinese Company to steal everything you bring to china. They manipulate the currency. They dump steel below market value into the World Economy and trump said during the campaign he was going to push back. He has. And if the french and the germans were smart, they would join President Trump to change Chinese Business practices. Martha what about the push back against russia. The expulsion of all of these transcripts. Several other countries came on board with this move today. The president has been accused since he was elected. Right. Martha of being too soft on russia. What do you make of this move . I think when the president decided to expel the russian spies and diplomats, the world followed. It shows what happens when america leads from the front, the rest of the world follows. I have never seen so many nations pushing back against russia. I went to a National Security conference in munich. Nato is alive and well again because putin is creating havoc throughout the world. I think what President Trump did, the rest of the world followed. Its going to make a difference. Clearly we havent done enough to change russias bhar. Theyre still very brazen, very emboldened, what President Trump did with expelling these people, i think, is going to pay dividends overtime. Martha when you look at the russian reaction, you know, they are sort of scoffing about it. Representative, you know, its no big deal. In terms of their intelligence, their ability to gather information around the world, has that been curtailed dramatically by this move . They begin to be isolated. They have the economy the size of italy. If the president could rally the world to push back against russian and really hit them economically. Have sanctions that hit really hard, then putin is basically going to gas station masquerading as a country. People are going to get tired of him stealing them blind within russia itself. We have a magic moment in time here to get north korea to the table, to do something no other president has been able to do, which is to give up their nuclear program. If President Trump will pour on the pressure to russia, i think we can change their behavior. Because they are basically a very weak economy. Martha the president is also going to meet with leaders of atone gentleman, latvia and litani wane i cant. Thats also going to get putins attention and not going to be happy about it. Putting american troops in baltic. These are the members all democracies. The countries you just named. We will send troops over there to help train their military. Fly the natoamerican flag right in putins face. The more we can do to push back on russia the better the dividends because putin will never respond to weakness. He will only respond to strength. And the one thing i can tell the American People after eight years of weakness and appeasement by obama, i am really pleased to see a president leading from the front, john bolton is going to be a great National Security advisor. And the only reason north korea is talking to us is because they are afraid of donald trump and i think the way you change russias behavior is just pour it on. Martha were going to talk to gordon chang in a moment. More on north korea and china. I want to get your thoughts on a couple of domestic issues before i let did you go tonight, senator. The first is this sort of buzz that the president is going to try to find a way to use the pentagon budget, the Defense Budget to pay for the wall; that there are certain, you know, old rules that might allow him to kind of divert some of that domestic money and get it to help pay for the wall. Is that true . I dont know. But i wouldnt advise that. We need 650 billion to repair the damage done during the Obama Administration to our military. Going into the north korea negotiations, we building our military is going to make north korea look differently at donald trump. Russia is looking differently to us as we build up our military. The best way to get the wall money is to do the deal the president talked about. The 25 billion for the wall in return will do a deal for the Daca Recipients. Thats the deal to be done. And if he would announce that any time soon, the democrats would be in a box. Because i want them to say no to the Daca Recipients because they dont want to fund the wall that america needs. Martha didnt they essentially do that with this last spending bill. Not really because it was wrapped up into the spending bill. There are a lot of issues going on at the same time. If President Trump came out tomorrow and said listen i want my wall money because we need to protect money we need wall. I will be more than fair to the Daca Recipients, democrats would be in a terrible box politically. Martha i know you were sorry about the way that went the last time around. We will see if they can get somewhere with it this time around. Interesting editorial this morning from a former Supreme Court Justice John Paul stephens. He said we really should just do away with the Second Amendment. We will do more with the panel come up. Dont run for senate in soutSouth Carolina. Im up here to defend the Second Amendment rights of my citizens. My constituents, not take them away. I hope every democrat will be asked what you asked me, is it a good idea to repeal the Second Amendment . I want every democrat to answer that question. This is a very bad idea. I am glad he is retired. He has a right to his opinion like every other american. Im up here to protect the Second Amendment and not repeal it i cant wait to hear what nancy pelosi says and every other liberal democrat. See if they will stand with Justice Stephens or they will stand with the constitution. Im dying to know. Martha we will see. They will be asked. Senator, great to see you. Thank you very much for being here tonight. Thank you. Martha here with more perspective on all of this gordon chang an asian analyst with expertise on north korea and china and the author of the book coming collapse of china. Gordon good to see you. Thanks for coming on the story tonight. First of all, your thoughts on this train that looks very similar that carried kim jong uns father on his visit to beijing. Do you think thats what happened here . Yeah. I certainly think so. I think what the chinese rural told kim jong un have you got to come to bang. Chinese feeling that trump had cut out china from the denuclearization process. China wanted to make themselves relevant again. Kims first foreign trip was going to be to south korea. Second foreign trip was to meet President Trump. The chinese felt the first foreign trip from north korea should to be china. The chinese look at the north koreans as vas sells. They dont want them dealing with south korea or the United States. Martha why would they hide it then . Why wouldnt they publicize it . Well, its traditional that the chinese do not public size that a north Korean Leader has been in beijing until that north Korean Leader has returned to the north. And the reason is the north koreans are very, very concerned about, you know, the generals in north korea, back in north korea, you know, launching a koop if if they think he has been out of the country. He has never been to china. He has probably never ever been out of the country. Its not unlikely, right . As leader he has not been out of the country. We are pretty sure about that. Because people do track his movements and there is no indication he has left the country before monday. Martha let me take a look let me show you this and put this up on the screen this tweet from President Trump back on march the 2nd. He said when a country, u. S. A. Is losing many billions of dollars of trade with virtually every country it does business with, trade wars are good and easy to win. Example, when we are done 100 billion with a certain country, i can insert china into that, and they get cute, dont trade anymore. We win big. Its easy. Your thoughts on that, gordon . Yeah, economists are going to be horrified but trump is actually right. You know, we can win this trade war. Last year, 88. 8 of chinas overall merchandise trade sur plus related to sales to the United States. That was up from 2016. So, the chinese are really dependents on the u. S. You know, we as americans know that trade surplus countries are vulnerable because in the last grate trade war which was the Great Depression we got hurt the most because we were the trade surplus country. Other countries around the world the Great Depression was not so great. Martha what about the input from merkel today and macron and those conversations . How powerful would it be if we could get some of our largest allies to join us in this effort . I think thats extremely powerful and we should congratulate the president on this. I think that the germans and the french and everybody else are going to be joining the United States in. This trump is the one to act first. The problem is that there is now a trade outlaw at the center of global commerce. Thats china. We have got to do something. And President Trump moved first. We are going to see the french and germans and everyone around them also join the United States in this because they have no choice. The chinese are giving everybody else no choice. Martha i mean, there are big Tech Electronics moving around here. Is there not . Is that an overestimation of what is happening . Its not an overestimation because what we have had for four decades is the United States trying to get china to join the international system. We have seen it to be in our interest to support the communist party of china up until now. And now we are starting to understand the dimensions of the mistake that we made for those decades and we are trying to reverse it. This is the fight of our lives, martha. Martha i want to play this sound from President Trump on intellectual property because i think its a discussion and a topic that you know, sometimes gets lost in the shuffle and i want you to help us understand whats really at stake here. Here is President Trump. If china does not stop its illegal activities, including its theft of american trade secrets, and incident electric 2w5 intellectual properties i will apply duties until china ceases and desist. The theft of intellectual property by foreign nations costs america millions of jobs and billions and billions of dollars each and every year. Martha how are they stealing all of this from us, gordon . Well, they are doing it in a way that senator graham mentioned. There is also just cyber attacks. If you want to do business in china you have a joint venture with a Chinese Company and you lose your intellectual property. Now they have what they call National Security laws and regulations that require u. S. Tech companies to divulge all sorts of secrets like source code and this is absolutely critical. Heart of the American Economy right now. If President Trump doesnt defend it, there is no more economy left. He is doing what he has to do to protect the United States. Martha its going to be really interesting to watch how this plays out in the coming weeks and months. Gordon, great to he so you. Thank you so much for coming on tonight. Thanks, martha. Martha you bet. So, coming up, the First American to escape al qaeda, breaks his silence. Why he says the fbi failed him, specifically mueller and comey. Were going to talk about that. We have a statement from the fbi that were going to read tonight with regard to that as well. Matt schrier here exclusively this hour. Should the 2020 census ask if you are a citizen . And, if it does, which party stands to benefit from the outcome . Marc thiessen and Juan Williams debate when they join news just a moment. And those rumors that the president might borrow from the massive Defense Budget to build his big beautiful wall. Why will get their thoughts on that too when we come back. We have 1. 6 billion for the wall that will start immediately. This is a shrm funding but its immediate, starts immediately. Because your risk of heart attack or stroke is up to four times greater. But there are steps you can take to lower your cardiovascular risk. 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