Sanctuary for illegal aliens statewide. Echos of the civil war and civil rights situation. Well tell you whats going on. Caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. The factor begins right now. Bill hi, im bill oreilly. Thanks for watching us tonight. The trump surveillance story explodes. That is the subject of this evenings talking points memo. Tonight we will give you just the facts. No speculation, no hysteria. The latest from fox news correspondents adam housley and maliyah zimmerman is this quote multiple sources tell fox news he rice requested to unmask the names of trump transition officials caught up in surveillance unquote. Apparently ms. Rice was doing this for more than a year leading up to the november election. Thats very troubling. And if it can be proven, susan rice is in major trouble. Also because the National Security advisor was so close to president obama, he is going to have to answer questions as well. So you can see an enormous story is developing and it really doesnt matter whether the liberal Mainstream Media ignores it, congress add the fbi will not. To be fair to miss rice and we do want to do that she denies all wrongdoing and should be given the presumption of innocence because thats the american way. There were occasions when i would receive a report in which a u. S. Person was referred to, name not provided, just u. S. Person. And sometimes in that context, in order to understand the importance of the report, and assess its significance, it was necessary to find out or request the information as to who that u. S. Official was. Did you seek the names of people involved in to unmask the names of people involved in the trump transition. Trump campaign. People surrounding the president elect . Let me be clear. In order to spy on them . Absolutely not for any political purposes to spy, expose, anything. Did you leak the name of mike flynn. I leaked nothing to nobody. Bill nothing to nobody should be nothing to anyone. Now, heres my question. If susan rice did surveil the trump people, big if, for a year, what was her motive . Why did she do it . I mean, think about it. This woman is a National Security advisor to the president. She has got a lot of work to do. So why would she be running over to the National Security agency or the cia reviewing wiretaps . Summations of all intelligence are delivered to the white house every morning. And why, if a trump person was involved, would she want the name . The key question to this big story is motivation. Now, i know many cable news programs will speculate, will convict susan rice without a trial or attempt to cover for her as we saw last night. We, at the factor are not going to do that. Were in business to report the truth and give opinion based upon facts. So lets sum up. Talking points believes reporting from adam housley and maliyah zimmerman is accurate. Other News Agencies are getting information as well. So at this point you, the viewer, can assume that susan rice took an amazing interest, amazing interest in what the trump people were doing well before the folks voted. Why did she do that . We dont know. What we do know is both the house and Senate Intelligence committee should subpoena susan rice immediately and both committees should send written questions to president obama. Also the fbi should interview ambassador rice and conduct a very thorough investigation of her behavior. Thats reasonable, is it not . Because if the Trump Campaign or the Trump Transition Team were spied upon by the Obama Administration, again, a big if, that has to be uncovered. And thats the memo. Now for the top story. Lets bring in Malia Zimmerman an Investigative Reporter for foxnews. Com who was covering the story. Did i leave anything out, malia. You are in l. A. Tonight. Did i leave anything out. There is so much to the story. It could take an hour to cover this or more and im sure we will be covering it for many weeks if not many months and possibly years ahead. Its so vast. We dont know some things. We dont know why they were surveilled. Why they came up in the surveillance this incidental communications. Why then trump President Trump as well as his family might have been included in the surveillance, maybe his donors, his associates. His Trump Transition Team members and possibly even his campaign members. We have to think about this in terms of this was going on for at least a year, according to our sources, possibly longer. Bill well, let me stop you there. If it was going on for a year, then it had to be the Trump Campaign people. So, look, the questions you raise are the same questions i raise. Motivation. All right. We dont know why susan rice took such an avid interest in this. The extent. So, let me ask you some very simple questions because as you know im a very simple guy. You got the story from a government final, you and adam, correct . We got our sources, they are u. S. Intelligence sources and adam and i have different sources. So the wonderful thing working with adam we are able to confirm what we find out from varying sources. Bill people gave you the story and bloomberg the story and other people the story as well. Yeah. Bill im sure you are reasonably certain that what they told you is 100 percent true, right . Absolutely. We had been hearing this for a while. On friday we knew it was a top intelligence official. We believed it to be susan rice. On monday we were able to confirm that. Bill you were anal able to unmask, pardon the pun, susan rice. When she went on msnbc and said i didnt do anything, did that strike you as unusual . Did you what was your reaction to her denying everything . Well, it was odd because on her show on when she went on pbs, she basically said she didnt remember anything about that. She didnt recall. Bill that was march 22nd. Right. And then today she said well, you know, she did have to do it. It was required in some cases. So those are two different conflicting statements. And then she also said she didnt remember it escalating after the election. Which we believe it did. So, in terms of the surveillance. So, you know, if terms of what government officials, you know, we dont know for sure yet whether or not all the facts have come out. Bill as i mentioned in the talking points, the National Security advisor and the president of the United States each morning get a summation of intelligence that comes in. They have it given to them, all right . So it strikes me as strange that susan rice would then go over to the nsa or the cia or whatever and then probe deeper in to documents, taps that concern the trump people. I mean, what was the reason for that . Did that raise a flag for you as well . We believe it might have actually happened the other way, where someone in another agency told her to request those records and have the names unmasked. So we think it actually could have happened the other way. Thats what our sources have told us. Bill spell it out for everybody because people dont know the inner workings here. You believe it might have happened this way . Sure. So somebody from the nsa, for example, would have told her to ask for those reports, to ask for those unmasked. That is what we have heard from some of our sources. Bill okay. We are looking into that angle as a possibility. Bill did you ever hear a why as to why somebody from the nsa would call her and say come on over here and ask for this information was there ever a why . You know, this whole thing was really about from what we have been told bringing out information about President Trump, the intentional leaking of information to the media was about embarrassing him, about making his presidency unstable, when he was just getting launched. This was all happening. And it was more of a political attack rather than anything that needed to be released. I think thats whats really going to come down to. Bill all right. So you and adam right now are investigating a track, a track that the hypothesis is ms. Rice, acting as a National Security advisor was trying to get information about the trump people during the campaign and then after the election in order to leak it out, somebody, maybe not her, to embarrass donald trump . Is that the track that you are on . Thats the track were on. And theres a lot more to it. And we believe there is more people involved. Bill do you believe laws were broken . Its pretty clear they were broken because the names were released to the media so i believe thats the case. But whether or not it was susan rice or someone else, we have no evidence to show. Bill no, we cant make any accusations. All right. No accusations, right. Bill this is an amazing story, malia, it really is. An amazing situation thats developing. We only want to go as far as the facts take us. I have think you have done that so far. Thats right. Bill thank you very much. Thank you. Bill next on the rundown we will talk to a congressman and senator on the Intel Committees about what happens next in the rice case. Later california may declare itself a sanctuary state. Is that against the u. S. Constitution . Those reports after these messages. Z282uz zwtz y282uy ywty pcountries thatk mewe traveled,t what is your nationality and i would always answer hispanic. So when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker. Im everything. Im from all nations. 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The accusation as it sits out there is that the Obama Administration and people within the Obama Administration were using their office in excess to official documents to get access to then political achaccusations. This is the sames flying around with the irs, for instance, that the irs was using their tools for political purposes to be able to silent conservatives. If we get close to the Campaign Time period and they are using official documents, classified documents at that to either release names thats obviously a legal issue, to target individuals that are american citizens that were masked, thats called reverse targeting. But when you say you are targeting people internationally but actually using that to be able to target american citizens, thats not legal, or to be able to use any official document for political purposes. Those are all serious. Bill you heard Malia Zimmerman say the track she was on with adam housley was that it was a political play just as you are concerned about. But if susan rice comes before your committee, i can almost guarantee she is going to take the fifth, senator. Not going to answer your questions. We still need to ask the questions. I mean, we have a voluntary reachout to be able to go to her. We dont want to raise it to a level of subpoena unless you absolutely have to. But we have got a lot of witnesses that were in the process. So far all of the witnesses we have requested have voluntarily agreed to meet with us. We would hope she would, as well. Bill you need to be under oath, congressman king, for it mean anything. Absolutely. Bill do you expect that the house is going to aggressively pursue that . I am certain they will. Wee have to ask chairman nunes to be certain. Im actually confident that he will. This is as jim lankford said if all, even most of these charges that are out there, accusations out there against susan rice are true. This does rise to a level of very high scandal because its such an abuse of privacy. I believe it violates the law. And it really is undermining the presidency of the United States. Whether its Hillary Clinton or donald trump. This is something that cannot be allowed. So, again, we dont know yet, but based on this very reliable sources, these are very, very serious charges that she has to affidavit by the way they follow logically what devin nunes has been saying for the last two weeks. Bill now, do you expect your colleagues in the Democratic Party on the House Intel Committee to agree with you, congressman . That this has to be done in a way thats methodical to the American People know the truth or do you expect obstruction . I think there will be some obstruction. They will accuse us of trying to deflect the issue after way from russia. We are going to go ahead with it we have to go ahead with it. To me, im one of those that believes we have to examine the russia issue as far as we possibly can and also this. Right now to me there is more credible accusations, if you will, on the side against susan rice than there is against President Trump when it comes to russia. Bill now do you see it in the senate as being obstructionist thing on the senate Intel Committee or do you think they are going to cooperate . I think they will cooperate. We have really locked arms throughout this investigation from the very beginning which was for us months ago in the starting that we agreed we are going to go where the facts go. We dont know where those facts are going to go. We need research. We have got to be able to pull original documents and sources. Talk to people originally involved in the investigation. Pull as many people out as we can to get their personal testimony. Let the facts lead us through it not let bipartisan pull us through it. Bill a lot of people disagree with me that shell take the fifth but i think she will. Senator, when you heard her on march 22nd said she didnt know anything about any trump surveillance and then changed a little bit, its a nuances that, yeah, i was dr. Ed for thi interested fos reason telling msnbc that did that raise anything or do you think thats a natural answer . I think thats a natural answer. The bigger issue is to be able to press some of these issues when she said she didnt leak anything. Ask why were these names so important to the National Security advisor. Obviously the fbi, some of those folks i can understand in a criminal investigation or background. But to the National Security advisor why is it important . How many staff around her were receiving that and was she aware any of the staff around her were leaking it the question to her was very specific. I didnt do it. And what you need to know is how many places did that information go after it was unmasked. Bill one more question to you, congressman. Every morning the white house gets a briefing from the intel agencies. Have you ever heard of National Security advisor taking this kind of an interest for more than a year in a campaign or a transition or anything like that . You have been around for a while. Have you ever heard of anything like that . Bill, i think its very unusual for a National Security advisor to take this type of interest at all. May happen occasionally, but, to me, thats not her job. She an investigator. She is he not a cop or fbi agent. Her job is to set policy. If this is what people are saying it is. This is totally unusual and totally wrong and inappropriate. If we are talking about veracity here, remember, our First Impression of susan rice and lasting impression is when she went on all the shows to say that the video was the source of the benghazi bill i dont think thats fair here. This is a different situation. I know she is embarrassed by that she had to be. She is embarrassed because she got caught. Bill again, you are assigning a motive to her. I cant. She does have a history there. But i dont know if thats if she should prejudge. This. Im not prejudging. Im just saying when you are factor in everything you consider prior statements and prior conduct. Bill and thats true. Gentlemen, thank you very much. Please keep us posted. If you get anything, please let us know. Our audience is very, very interested in this story. Thank you, bill. Thank you, senator. Bill directly ahead, no doubt partisan politic also impact the investigation. We will tell you how. President trump being sued by protesters. Law and order on the case upcoming. 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