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0 so you could decide not to get in the exchange, the better plan, i could keep my acme insurance just to high deductible catastrophic plan. i would not be required to get the better one. >> not true. again, your insurance company does not comply with the obamacare mandate, you can't keep it few, if any insurance plans stay static. there are always changes so this is yet another slight of hand. president obama is making a huge mistake by continuing to petty fog the issue. the american people are not going to micromanage obamacare and the perception now is the president did not tell the truth. and when measures, even those who favor the democratic party believe they are not being dealt with squarely, they react. recent history proves this. you may remember that president bush the elder nning against michael dukakis said this at the 1988 republican convention. >> i'm the one who will not raise taxes. my opponent now says -- my opponent says he will raise them as a last resort or a third resort. but when a politician talks like that, you know that's one resort he will be checking into. [cheers] >> and my opponent -- my opponent won't rule out raising taxes but i will and the congress will push me to raise taxes and i will say no, and they will push and i will say. no and they will push again and i will say to them read my lips. no new taxes. [cheers and applause] >> well, that turned out to be false. mr. bush raised taxes in 1990 to the tune of $140 billion. he explained to the nation he had to do it because of the huge budget deficit. by the way that deficit is minuscule compared to what we have now. anyway in 1992, president bush lost the election to bill clinton. in fact, mr. bush was hammered losing the popular vote by 6 million. the read my lips remark certainly hurt him. so president obama should take note that unlike fast and furious, benghazi, the irs and the nsa snooping, obamacare is a far different deal. americans are directly affected, directly affected. that is they are paying more money for something whether it be taxes or healthcare and they pay attention. now, let's deal with the l word controversy. talking points does not believe president bush the elder lied when he said he would not raise taxes. he sincerely did not think that would happen. so he did not actively deceive the public. however, he did fold and violated his promise. and paid the price for that decision. most americans are smart enough to decide for themselves whether president obama lied about obamacare. my personal belief? is that the president never read the law, did not understand the law, and did not care very much about the details of the law. therefore, he said what his speech writers wrote. that we could keep our health insurance and doctors if we want. that turns out to be false and certainly the president is responsible for the deception. now, part of my analysis is speculative. maybe mr. obama did read the entire 974 page law. but i don't think he did because that's not the way he rolls. to use a current expression. but in the end it really doesn't matter, does it? americans were mislead, obamacare at this point is chaotic and most of us will have to pay more to protect ourselves and our family. that's not going away. finally, the president's ardent supporters continue to defend him and some of the rationalizations are actually amusing. on television the more the apologists rant the lower their ratings go. nobody is buying. this talking points fully expects to hear that the malfunctioning computers are racists or something. that's how insane this whole thing has become. right now, there are a number of pieces of legislation in the senate and in the house that would delay obamacare. that's the best solution? president obama should give the country a break. fix what's broken and level with the folks. if obamacare really is best for most americans, most americans will come to that understanding. but right now it isn't. and the whole thing has descended into a farce. and that's the memo. next on the rundown, reaction from an mit doctor who helped design obamacare and who whomself is now under fire. that report moments away. anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. live the regular life. phillips'. 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those who do the no give them a year fix what's broken it doesn't make me unhappy unlike other commentators it does not make me happy to see the president of the united states, no heart who he or she might be to be accused of being a liar. a rank liar that doesn't make me happy. i think we should get away from that. give it a year, it's our fault, we screwed it up. we will unscrew it and then we will go next september or whatever. doesn't that make sense to you, doc? >> two responses. one is the reason we can't delay it bill it comes to the most poor par part of the law. discriminate against insurer discriminate by charging sick more than healthy. you can't do that without the man date. you can't have the mandate without making insurance affordable. it all works together. you can't have just the good parts of this law. how many years have we had insurance companies not insuring those preexisting. >> since the 1970s. >> roughly since the revolutionary war, okay? that's how long and i think for the greater good of the nation we can go another year or nine months. come on, doc. >> it's easy for you to say but you are not someone living every day with the risk of going bankrupt or dying because you don't have insurance coverage. we know in massachusetts we save people's lives. >> i'm talking about the greater good. i'm talking about the greater good. okay? i understand there is suffering. and if -- there is any way that i personally can alleviate it, i will. i give beau coup money to charity to try to -- the greater good is served by having a law that is being mandated, all right? , imposed on the population clear number one and functional number two. and neither of those things are happening doctor. >> bill, you have to remember this law is not effecting the vast majority of the population. vast who get insurance from employer or government are not affected by this law. this is not a takeover. >> we don't know that yet. the law is only six weeks old. we don't know that yet. but the evidence rolling in is that the suffering being caused by the law is much more intense than the help it is going to give. all right you and i have a gentleman's disagreement on that. that's just what we have $400,000 taxpayer money given to you. you earned it. i'm sure that you spent a lot of time on this. but now you are being criticized for it that's. >> go ahead. i was technical consultant to the department of health and human services. basically i have a computer model that helps the administration and congress decide how to structure this law that computer model involves a lot of nim my time and employees to essentially run as a technical consultant to the administration. >> that's not the computer that doesn't work, i hope is, it? all right. look. professional like you and people should understand that around the country, when you consult, you bill. that's what college professors do and i mean i get paid for other things than the factor. you know, and i deserve to. if i'm doing a service, and they hire me. but, it seems like you are in a very untenable position of defending almost the indefensible right now. in the are deception of the american public. i will give you the last word. >> the last word i'm not being paid to protect this law. this is a contract for technical support that ended three years ago. right now i'm not being paid. i was brought in as analyst to analyze the law to allow the law be made better. if they hadn't had this kind of analysis done. it will be back in a year talking how this law was a success. >> you are stand up guy for coming on. government run entitlement programs like obamacare is fraud, massive fraud. john stossel will have new information on that. and then another embarrassment for the national football league, a player emotionally assaulting another player. now some very disturbing videotape that surfaced. we will show it to you and the factor do coming right back. i got this. 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