0 sanctions against child predators. it does not. speaker of the house, very liberal, refused to put jessica's law up for a full vote. now the denver post is sticking up for him. >> colorado has a strong sex offender laws and i don't see-- >> i've got a dozen, a dozen child rapists doing less than five years in your state, mr. hubbard, do research about it. >> and probation unique to colorado. >> bill: lifetime probation, ooh, lifetime probation for rape. if you had a kid and somebody raped that kid and they got lifetime probation you'd probably be out there with a gun, mr. hubbard. >> that's in addition to their prison sentences, bill. >> bill: so the question is why is that curtis hubbard the post editorial director really opposed to jessica's law? what's behind it? now, we have similar situations in vermont, illinois, hawaii and we'll get to in a moment. months, but it only applied to offenses against children 11 years of age and under. so hawaii's pretty much a free fire zone for pedophiles and violent-- it's a free fire bill? >> unlike my friend's congressman who you had on before. >> bill: yeah. >> i watch your program and i appreciate everything you've done. look, i love hawaii, we're a great state and we have great people, but we have a dirty little secret and that is ironically, the hawaiian word we use for the children is keiki, and everything we do in the legislature is for them. and when we raise our salaries it's for the keiki and when we exempt ourselves from ethics laws it's for the keiki and bureaucratic laws that don't protect children, it's for the keiki. with all of the discussion how we care about our children we would protect them and yet the secret is we don't do that and people really don't talk about it. it's not an issue for discussion. so when i tried on the senate floor a couple of weeks ago to amend the bill that was still alive to actually put in the minimum mandatory 25 years to life, boy, i was met with a firestorm of opposition on the floor and my democratic colleagu colleagues spoke against it and tremendous arguments. one said, what about if a mentally ill child rapes another child. another one said what about the poor developmentally, you know, children that have problems there? but the best comment came from one of the senators who said, suppose a 11-year-old is in love with a ten-year-old and sex occurs? and i tried to refute this bill by saying, first of all, who speaks for the victim. everybody is talking about the perpetrator and you're right in your comments about restorative justice. we had a justice reinformation and reinvention initiative last year, and the whole emphasis is trying to rehabilitate these people. >> bill: yeah. >> i want to take care of our children, it's not being done. >> bill: and this con about children with children, all of these laws say it's got to be over a certain age, it's a adult and a child and they still won't do it and i've got to run, senator, i'm going to have you back because you're very good. but i understand that laws against harming pets are more important in hawaii than they are harming children. and we'll get into-- >> you want a big crowd, have a dog cruelty bill. they'll get hundreds of people down to the capital. thank you, bill. >> bill: thanks very much. megyn kelly will have more on the colorado situation later in the broadcast. stick around, amazing what's going on in colorado. next, for years i've rejected calling president obama a socialist, you may know that. but now things are changing. we'll have that debate moments away.

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