>> we collected some great hollywood interviews this evening and it all starts right now. >> once upon a time, you and i actually felt journalism was a calling. >> bill: i still think i'm doing something noble. [ laughter ] caution, you are about to intrer the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching the factor goes hollywood special. top story tonight. conservative hollywood. actors chuck norris, james con, kelsey grammer all have something to say about how things have changed in this country over the past few years. we begin with chuck norris. >> if we look to history, our great country and freedom are under attack. we're at a tipping point and quite possibly our country as we know it may be lost forever if we don't change the course our country is headed. >> bill: so you are saying, look, we are headed for armageddon in what way. >> i don't say armageddon. we need to go one direction. left, which would be socialism. or right, which would be people trying to make the money themselves. what has happened is the democrats have gone further left and the republicans have gone to where the democrats were 40 years ago. >> bill: what do you object to in the redistribution of wealth? >> the fact that they're affecting the small businesses in our country. and when you drive around the country and you see these stores that are closed, out of business, because of what is going on with our economy, that really tears my heart up. tax me, i don't care. >> bill: you don't care if you paid more taxes? >> i pay my hung gus amount of taxes. >> bill: sure, so do i. >> so do you. >> right. >> bill: do you want to pay 40, 45% which would take you income redistributors. >> if it would help, i would not mind it the thing is it won't help. the more money they get the more they will spend. >> bill: i have got to see it's doing some good. you have a foundation and i have a foundation. we give money privately to those we know. wounded warriors, fishers out. chuck, thanks for coming and good to see you again. >> thank you, bill. >> bill: would you call yourself a conservative now. >> i have become conservative on, you know, because of the position that we're in right now. >> financial position? things like that. >> certainly financial. you know, i have always said if you were going to wear badge sheriff. >> of the world? >> yes. the of the world then you better act like wyatt earth. >> that puts you in the minority in hollywood. >> i guess so. >> bill: fear on some actors that aren't as accomplished if you this f. they do say they are conservative they won't work. >> i'm being a hypocrite here because i don't like when actors talk politics and now i'm doing it i'm on the roirm show. >> bill: i'm forcing you to do it. why don't you like actors talking about politics. >> they haven't got political science degrees most of them. >> bill: it does get annoying when somebody barbra streisand political web site. people who need liberal people are the luckiest people in the world. >> i study her. >> now, in hollywood, also, we're not as tough as we used to be. i remember a movie called elder rad doe. you are a young guy. >> i think you better stand up. >> bill: john wayne, robert michigan elm and you. three tough guys. >> let's see if you can do that trick twice. >> wayne was like you. he was an intimidator. >> me? >> oh, sure, i think you are like him. >> work with -- >> no. no. >> don't give me to carlo. >> i will kill you. >> bill: back then in hollywood these were really tough guys. tough guys that came up the hard way and that showed through on the screen. same thing with you. >> bobby deyou have used to make fun of me. i would say act something a silly thing for a grown up to do. >> five families come after you. >> as i grow older, do i believe in art and i have studied and i didn't study how to be a tough guy. my neighborhood taught me how to do that. >> bill: that's right. but you brought that with you. >> it's part of me. the point is like i sing and dance but nobody remembers that. >> bill: anybody give you any jazz when you go home to l.a.? i saw mr. tremor in chicago a few weeks ago when miller and i were there. almost arrested. we escaped. but do you get any heat when you go back because you are a republic and conservativey guy? >> it's notse really heat. no. you know, i mean i have lively speculation about certain conversations. i have read some things about how pathetic it is to be a republic in hollywood. there is this little group called friends ever abe. >> you are a member of that. >> i'm a member of that group. there have been derisive comments made about that. >> nothing personal to you? >> not that i know about. >> i would have loved to have been on a set with you, ted dancin' and woody herrell sen. danson and harrelson, you can't get more left wing than those guys. >> pretty left wing. >> ratsenberger. here you got on the other side. >> ratsenberger used to be on the other side. >> as soon as he started watching the factor. >> there you go. >> did you talk politics back in the day? >> once in a while. i have always been kind of a small government guy and that's why i just -- i just think that the private sector and society can take care of itself better than the governmentt can. >> did they get heated because rhea pearlman another left wing woman. did they get heated? i like the conservative guys a little bit? throw a beer stein at you. >> they would say things this is the frazier. remember when they were having the recall on the governorship? somebody saidl maybe kelsey is going to run and i said i hope he does declare that he is running because i'm going to contributee a million dollars tomorrow to defeat him. >> bill: who said that? >> one of the producers of the show. were outnourished then. >> i am always outnourished. >> coming up. comedians denis leary and john loves the unleashed. >> i believe in strong military. and helping those below you. >> later, ted koppel and guy head to head over the topic of the popularity of the fox news channel. coming right back. >> announcer: 'tis the season of more-- more shopping, more dining out... and along with it, more identity theft. by the time this holiday season is over, an estimated 1.2 million identities may be stolen. every time you pull out your wallet, shop online or hit the road, you give thieves a chance to ruin your holiday. by the time you're done watching this, as many as 40 more identities may be stolen. you can't be on the lookout 24/7, but lifelock can. they're relentless about protecting your identity every minute of every day. when someone tries to take over your bank accounts, drain the equity in your home, or even tries to buy a car in your name, lifelock is on guard. and with lifelock's 24/7 alerts, they contact you by text, phone or email as soon as they detect suspicious activity in their network. lifelock wants you to be protected this holiday season, so they're giving you 60 days of protection risk-free. >> my years as a prosecutor taught me that you have to be proactive to protect yourself from crime, and that's especially true of identity theft. that's why i'm a member of lifelock. >> announcer: absolutely no one protects you better than lifelock, and they stand behind their protection with the power of their $1 million service guarantee. in fact, last year, lifelock protected over two million people during the holidays. and now they can do it for you. try lifelock's protection 60 days risk-free. call the number on your screen or go to lifelock.com/holidays. it only takes minutes to sign up. use promo code: holidays. order now and get a special holiday gift: a document shredder to keep sensitive documents out of the wrong hands... a $29 value, free! call the number on your screen or go online and let lifelock protect your identity for 60 days risk-free. because during the holidays, keeping your identity protected means keeping your family protected. >> bill: in the impact segment tonight. rob low, james kevin spacey big time performers who have become outspoken in the world of politics. we seat down recently with them. >> you say that hollywood is a one party town. we all know that it's a liberal-democrat town. is there a reason for that? >> i think that and i don't know what it says. it's not meant to be a judgment. but it seems to me like creative people end up being democrats and i think it's been that way forever. >> bill: is that because they feel sorry for the down trodden? i consider myself a creative person. i'm kind of a more traditional guy than liberal guy. >> let's face it. i think that democrats are very long on empathy. artists have to be long on empathy. republicans are long on logic. in my view. that might be oversimplifying. >> no i was trying to oversimplify. i think there is a pier pressure thing out there when you get into the business. everybody is one way, it's pretty much you have to the the to go that way. >> everybody can relate to growing up at the kitchen table and hearing your parents talk only one view. you did vote -- work for dukakis. he was a liberal guy. he got his butt kicked as you know is that because you were working for him by the way. >> can i pick them. i also worked for schwarzenegger and he won. >> bill: what happened to him. >> he took on the entrenched party system in california. >> bill: and got his butt kicked. he got terminated by him. they killed him. >> i don't think around knew what he was getting into. i really don't. i think he tried. >> i disagree. i have never met a person who can't -- who was less good at bringing or better at bringing people together than arnold. amazing at it. >> together. but he left office with 25% approval rating. it was just you guys who liked him you a and your pals out there. come on. >> it's a very divisive state. they say if you are a centrist in california, you get run over. >> that's for sure: all of us agree on a lot. >> you have become more conservative as you get older? >> without a doubt. i mean, i am a centrist. my son who is studying politics in high school had me take some online very complicated poll you couldn't have put me more in the middle than where i ended up. >> these pinheads in hollywood, do they care about the country's shape right now? are they aware that there is big changes? >> yeah. i think a lot of people in hollywood might care a little too much. and involve themselves with maybe things that are above their pay grade. >> hollywood was so enthusiastic about president obama. is there any buyer's remorse? >> i don't know. because i'm not a very hollywood guy. i hang out with comics. we will make fun of whoever. we don't care. >> bill: you don't hear that on the sitcom set. >> not a word. >> most comics are angry are you. >> not at all. nothing bothers me. i used to drink and i was a creepy guy. i was very short and angry and then. >> bill: then you got taller somehow. >> i got taller. i met the love of my life. i got married to nic, and it's a girl nic. >> i said nik and wait a minute. we were with him and then he drops that on. >> especially if you are irish catholic. marry a guy named bruno. >> no brunos in my life just nic. >> in show biz, because you are kind of a working class guy like me. >> you have no idea. i watched the show my whole life and the fact that you said you are working class like me, my heart skipped a little beat, bill. >> bill: that's true. you make it big, how do you look back? >> it takes way longer than everyone thinks. and people always say like what was your big break? it's hard to explain that you have had 20 to 30 big breaks that at the time you thought were the break. >> it's been a great day. >> are you in or are you out? it's not show friends it's show business. >> you go do jerry maguire and that's the biggest break you have in your life. >> that was a big break for you. >> i thought i was going to have to fire my mentor carry that in my head for a week. >> bill: have you been around for a while. very successful in the entertainment industry. i have never under stood why actors, producers, directors are so liberal generally speaking. i have had ache tours come up to me he in hollywood who aren't liberal and say i can't tell people how i feel because i might not work. charlton heston said look i used to be a liberal and i became a conservative and i never got invited to another party. my whole social contact list dried up. heston was huge. >> he was huge. >> bill: he paid a price, in his mind, for going over to the conservative side. >> i have never heard of a situation where somebody who had a particular it political belief didn't get a part? i think it's a bit of a myth. i will take it from a acting perspective. i think when you put yourself as actors have to do in other people's shoes. when you have to put on the costume that someone else has worn in heir -- their life. it's much harder to be prejudiced against them and not look at them in the sense that i'm not going to judge somebody. i'm going to try to understand who they are and what they're about. acting is. >> gained by your professional expertise in playing different characters. >> i don't think it's sympathy. for example, i can't judge the characters i play because it's for the audience to do. what i can try to do is to understand and embody what were they going through. how do they make the decisions they made? that, to me, is a more interesting way to approach them rather than saying this person is a villain and that person is. this it's not very interesting to play that anyway. we try to make it entertaining. i also think it's sometime a film i did called recount about the gore-bush election there are circumstance is where people make decisions or misjudgments or behave in such ways that you cannot actually believe that you couldn't write this stuff. because it's so outrageous. it's inherently funny. >> thanks for coming in mr. spacey. thanks very much. >> coming up. john loves the -- loves the has a few things to say about the comedy club. what i said and why it went viral which frank solid shocking to me. >> bill: welcome back to this special edition of the factor tonight. we go hollywood. our first unresolved problem segment. comedians jon lovitz collin quinn. we start with leary. why do you hate america. >> i love america. what are you talking about. >> you are a good boston boy. >> i'm a good boston boy. i love america. >> bill: you write this country, i assume that's america. including you and most of the people related to you by berthor marriage or both is populated by beings so blessed so long they have become almost completely immune any interest other than their own. >> true. >> bill: come on. >> how many people in just your daily walking around. >> bill: i don't walk around. i have people carry me. [ laughter ] >> well then you don't have to worry about it you are being carried around. don't you notice some of these morons walking around with their heads down texting or whatever they are doing while they are walking. >> bill: there is a lot of narcissism in our society. >> not everybody. not you, not me. i don't know about you, leary but almost everybody else. >> bill: you are making money. >> i don't walk around. >> you are making big money on your books. you are basically saying this country is doomed. we are out of it we are a bunch of pinheads. >> i'm not saying that we are out of it or that he we are doomed. it's still the greatest country on the face of the plan plan -- planet. we have a lot of dead weight. >> bill: put a percentage on it. how much is dead weight. >> dead weight? >> bill: yeah. >> i am going to base this on my own math. about 45%. >> bill: almost half the country. >> we have wide receivers making $8 million a year tweeting god because they dropped a pass. seriously? >> bill: are you a boston liberal guy? matt damon? are you ben affleck? are you those guys. >> no i'm not ben affleck. >> my guys in boston are not like you guys. >> what do you mean who is your guy in boston. >> bill: lots of guys. my guys aren't the liberal guys. >> well, like who? >> bill: i'm not going to embarrass them. anybody associated with me their whole life is over. >> i'm a jack kennedy. >> bill: jack kennedy. >> democrat. my parents are irish immigrants. obviously -- >> bill: you are a working class guy. i believe in strong military and helping those below you. and if you are balancing the budget and did a good job as president you should be able to sleep whoever you want. that's the jack kennedy approach to democracy. >> bill: libertarian democratic precincts. >> i guess so. >> bill: a lot of firefighters beat the hell out of you. because they are strong conservative blue collar. >> i have a lot of conservative views on a lot of things. >> bill: give me one. >> well, tattoos. you know, i basically i don't like tattoos unless you are a firefighter who has a tattoo that has to do with that or military guy. those are people that should have tattoos or keith richards. >> bill: don't like the spider on the neck. >> i don't like that. >> bill: wrong message. >> morons. >> bill: you know what we found? common ground leary. >> we did. >> we did. >> bill: america today, are we going down the tubes like the greeks and the row -- romans. >> sure we are. don't you think. >> bill: i'm asking you. >> we keep doing the same things and different results. debate used to work for our country doesn't work now. tribalism worked. greeks thinking. we're like a compilation of every empire as they fall. we are like the cosco of empire declines we have to combine every aspect of every empire. >> bill: everything everybody has done in the past. >> hue dogs it manifest itself. >> access. not it's like now, like even years ago people said we left all the manufacturing jobs. left the country. and it was all moving money. but now it's not even moving money. now it's not even moving the idea of money. people most people's job is talking about the future like money not even in the present tense. not even paper. >> bill: hedge fund guy nobody know what is that. >> right because it doesn't exist. trading the idea of somebody else doing. >> bill: they make all this money and they don't do anything. there is nothing there. >> yeah. >> bill: also you think we are culturally in decline because of things like the jersey shore, right? >> we have always been like that. jersey shore is san easy one to attack, of course, because the greeks, at least when they watch plays they weren't frivolous they were like watching nobility and all these deep thoughts. just watching like i say snooki losing her cell phone. >> bill: if you really look at what's going on jersey shore. it's almost like the greek plays in a way. because, remember, the greeks the mom and all of that if you just look, i don't know what they're doing. i never watch the jersey shore it frightens me. i thought it was a zombie thing at first. they are real people. >> it frightens you because we are irish. that's not part of the jersey shore. >> bill: i know italians just appalled by that. >> i know too. probably too close to them. >> bill: here is how bad the jersey shore thing. even the organized crime. mafia. hey, you are giving us a bad that i name. >> it's not that bad of a show. people are making that into the focal point when it symbolizes everything. they are not even like the italians when i was growing up. they don't even fight. they just get mad. they sit down. never see them -- is i sitting there i feel like we are not connected. start having these heart to hearts with each other. touchy feely new nation. >> i like west side story when they just attacked each other. do you watch like the factor in cable news? >> of course i do. >> bill: listen to talk radio to draw from your material? >> i do. i will prove to you i watch the factor. i think you have been ve