Recovery. With this for the whole hour, charlie kurt, steve moore and lisa booth. Ill kick things off with a couple points. First, there wont be a recovery unless we reopen schools now. If children can go to school, parents can go to work. Were told schools must be close to keep kids safe but theyre not in danger. Children under 18 make up only 2 of cases. Children under 14 makeup. [inaudible] now, the media misinformation machine thats fear mongering about a new mystery disease that affects children. Doctor fauci is pushing back on iran pauls recommendation for schools. Can children infect others . Were constantly told to follow the science and the data well here it is. One study found quote, even if children do get infected they are less likely to transmit the disease to others than adults. We have not found a single instance of a child infecting parents. They lecture us about contact tracing. They did it with coronavirus. They found that even though he came into contact with 172 classmates and teachers while symptomatic, he didnt transmit the disease to any of them, not one after the 172 people. In switzerland they said now no Young Children dont transmit the virus. And, because of all this, france, israel, germany, portugal and many other countries have begun letting their children back into school. Two weeks after denmark open, scientists in the department of Infectious Diseases said there are no signs whatsoever that the partial reopening has caused a bigger spread of infection, yet still the schools here are closed, even in states where bars and restaurants are reopening. Where in all this is our own cdc by the way, why do we have to rely on scientists from switzerland, denmark, iceland yet another reason for the bungler in chief, useless doctor Robert Redfield to go. Meanwhile the Mental Health toll on children goes by the day. All of it is hurting the poorest areas, especially those in remote parts of the country with unreliable internet and the poorest families. Any leader anywhere in america who is not planning to reopen schools now, not in the next few months, not in the fall, but now is a data denier and a science denier. It on with it. Reopen schools now before you do even more needless damage. For once we reopen schools and businesses we cant have stupid regulations stifling recovery. So whats this unscientific nonsense about temperature checks. Totally pointless. Youll miss most people with coronavirus and catch many who dont have it. Its completely arbitrary social distancing rules. 33 , 50 , whats even based on, only one or two people allowed in an elevator at one time, good luck trying to reopen new york like that or any Downtown Business quite frankly. This over prescriptive regulation is typical of the mindset of our technic technocratic elite. If you boss people around with arbitrary rules they will resist but ask people to behave responsibly with common sense and they will. Thats also why Liability Protection for employers to do the right thing is an essential part of any recovery package. Next point, and this unjustified climate of fear. Too Many Americans wrongly fear they are at risk for this virus. Thats a disaster for recovery but it because it stops people from getting back to real life. Obviously the best thing is a vaccine and the Trump Administration has done incredible progress to speed up both but we urgently need the federal government to mount a scientific datadriven Information Campaign to explain to americans how low the risk really are for most people. Two more things, the shutdown is decimating countless businesses. Even whole industries. People might be getting ready to go back to a job that doesnt exist anymore. We been a strong advocate of skills training on this show and giving our workers the tools they need to succeed in the 21st century. Her work now will be even more important with a huge new loan program to help people transition from unemployment to start their own business. That really would be a transition to greatness. Ill just end with this thought. One of the things im most proud of in my career and helping to set up national service, nonmilitary service, i think Something Like that could make a huge difference here in america right now. People are looking for ways to help them with huge unemployment numbers, this would be a great way to bring the country together and unite people with different backgrounds. It would help in this moment but also be a fantastic legacy for the future. Those are my thoughts, tell us what you think about that and any you have at steve hilton. Joining me now, former reagan economic advisor, you know him and former trump Senior Advisor steve moore, both of them members of the White House Recovery Task force and theyve also teamed up in a new effort, the committee to unleash prosperity. So lets hear about your ideas. Great to see you both. Youve got some specific points. Im just gonna turn it over to you, im not sure who will kick it off but go for it. Steve, do you want me to it or do you want to. You go first. All right. Steve i loved your opening comment, but i really wish you wouldnt sugarcoat it and i really wish youd tell me the way you honestly think about these issues. I loved your opening comment. It was great. What ill start out with is the response to the coronavirus, we been very fortunate, a lot of very bad predictions of what the medical responses would be and what the infection rates and death rates would be, were a little bit overblown thanks goodness and that just makes everything a little bit better. But the response of 3 trillion, it was 2. 3 trillion in the cares act and then they added another 600 billion on it was a little bit overdone. In fact it was way overdone. There were lots of parts that bill that were good, if i may, beastly all the medical research and all the medical care and equipment and all that stuff was very, very needed, but that was just a small part of the cares act. Most of the cares act was what they call stimulus spending and it was ridiculous, 3 trillion is a lot of money, when you look at it u. S. Gdp is maybe funny 1 trillion, 3 trillion is one seventh, thats 14 , it increased our debt load by 14 of gdp from lets say 98 to 104 of gdp, and now the thinking of doing more and maybe are going to even get a larger deficit as a result of this. They will slowly eat away at our growth and. Spirit in the long run. It shouldnt of been done, it shouldve been much more targeted and i think the next time around steve, i think you want to talk about the heroes act of our latest friend speaker the house. Its great to be with you guys, look, ill put it like this, the new viruses spending in washington. Thats whats really disabling, and we ought to not spend any more money, weve already spent it 3 trillion, spending another 3 trillion is not going to solve the problem. By the way i do think that Nancy Pelosis bill that was passed a week or so ago was reprehensible. I think the idea that democrats would use this Terrible Health crisis and emergency in our country where people are dying to pass money for the arts and the illinois pension plan and justice grants that have nothing to do with the crisis is really beyond the pale, anything it doesnt matter if youre republican, democrat, liberal or conservative, nobody likes that stuff. So its really important that what we do now steve, is get the economy up and running, and ive got some good news two report, weve got georgia and florida open, texas open, the home state of tennessee open, and those dates are doing it in a safe and effective way, they been declining death rates and hospitalization, weve got to get the whole country open like tennessee and texas and florida. Are doing a great job, hes wonderful, he was my intern and dear friend. I just had to add that. I noticed commuted a survey of the different states and how theyre handling the reopening. They got a top score. It was top. So you been very clear, more spending for the state bailout and so on will actually hinder the recovery. Another thing thats been talked about is redistribution. Our art, i think youve got some thoughts on how redistribution might get in the way. Its very simple, whenever you are redistributing, you take from someone who has a little bit more and you give to someone who has little bit less. I taking from someone who has a little bit more you reduce their incentive to produce and they will produce less. By giving to someone who has a little bit less you provide that person with an alternative it source of income other than working. Its math. Whenever you redistribute income, you always reduce total income and this is classic in the cares act. They added 600. Week two people were unemployed and that bill. That comes out to 31000. Year. Honestly, if you pay people not to work and tax people if they do work, dont be surprised if you find a lot of people not working. Redistribution does not stimulate the economy, it actually hurts the economy and it makes no sense whatsoever. I wanted to ask, i think you had a specific idea that we wouldnt be surprised to hear coming from you, a tax reduction in order to get things going. Art, what is your specific thoughts on that. Where should the focus be for taxcut. Let me just say, if you want more employment, dont tax employment as much as you do. Our proposal, and this is steve forbes as well as steve moore, the three of us want to have a waiver on the payroll tax through december 31 which would increase the wages of workers by 7. 65 , reduce the cost to employers by 7. 65 making it much more attractive to hire new workers, retain your workers, employ them more, and also to make it by a terminal date of december 31, you want people to accelerate the income to really get that economy jumping straight up. Its a very common, it hits every single employer in the country, every employee in the country, gives the government no option for picking winners and losers as they love to do, and by the way, a tax cut is far more effective dollar for dollar then a spending increase because with the spending increase youve got to get the money and then youve got to spend it which cost a lot. Theres a toll for the troll and all that sort tax rate reduction is about 30 more effective on a dollar for dollar as it is on the spending increase. Thats what we been deciding to do and politically its very popular and i daresay i cant imagine pelosi having her team stop a payroll tax waiver, i just can imagine it. Its really a great move politically. When you say waiver, theyve basically ands extended entirely until the end of the year. Youve got to do it entirely because even if you are to pay only one penny in payroll taxes yet to fill out all the forms and do all that sort, its very expensive process. If you have a waiver you just dont even think about the payroll tax until january 1, 2021, thats the way to do it. I love the simplicity. Round this out. So, what i love about this is every minimumwage worker in america, every workingclass american, these are people who democrats say they care so much about, every one of them would get instantaneously, starting may 15 or may 22 would start to see this right in their paycheck. I love that idea. It also, Small Businesses that are struggling for revenues right now, every one of the 28 million Small Business men and women out there would get that extra revenue in their paycheck and that would allow them to hire more workers. I just love to say one thing of this idea of bailing out the states, you were talking about redistribution, explained to me by poor people in alabama should have to fill out rich people in new york and california. I dont get the log logic. Alabama doesnt bother me as much as tennessee does. Pensions are fully funded, we have the lowest taxes in the nation, very low property tax, and you want us to give our money, hello, not this week. They can keep their own money, will keep hours and will keep going. Ive got a feeling your conversation is going to continue. Were going to have to leave it there for the moment. Thank you so much for it is great to see you tonight. I can see why the president gave you that great honor recently. Steve, your gonna stay with us and charlie kirk and lisa booth will join us for more on reopening america. Dont go away. Open road and telling peopleie that Liberty Mutual customizes your insurance, so you only pay for what you need [squawks] only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. To helcvs pharmacyh the curris now offeringation free one to twoday delivery of prescriptions and everyday essentials. Visit cvs. Com delivery or call your local pharmacy to learn more. Free prescription delivery from cvs. The returdraftinging the return of the slide job ripping the wall gasngo bumpnrun the return of loud nascar is back, and xfinity is bringing you the best seat in the house. Welcome back everyone, steve moore is back enjoining him is Fox News Contributor lisa booth and turning point usa charlie kirk. All right. You heard what they had to say, lets start with you lisa, what are your reactions . I think youre actually right and what you said earlier that we do need to reopen the schools to reopen the economy. What are parents going to do when theyre expected to go back to work if schools are not open. Thats absolutely the key. Most people really need to look at the data. Eu ministers recently said if you look at the 22 European Countries that have open, theyre actually not seeing a significant increase in infections among staff, students and teachers. Additionally, you look at denmark who was the first country to reopen outside of asia and theyve also reopen their schools on april 15. Theyve been able to keep there are rate below one and they just had their first day where they had zero deaths. Additionally, if you look at the data, even with the cdc, kids have been sicker from the flu in previous seasons then they have from the coronavirus and the same can be said for the death rate when you look at even in new york city its. 006 so we need to look at the data, we need to be smart about this given that theres really no reason for children to not go back to school. Well put lisa, charlie lets just keep going with this for a moment, its amazing to me when you hear the conversation in this country about schools. Its not about whether we open now, its should we open in the fall, is it safe in the fall. I mean that is months away. I just find it astonishing that this is the level of the conversation and we havent got the clamor to reopen schools now. Completely, and steve, youre totally right. Anyone who opposes it is antiscience and anti data which seems to be a common talking point of the left over the last couple years so its interesting where we have verifiable data and science such as denmark and some sort of bizarre circumstance that were in, denmark is leading the way. For example, the california state system, the college system, and this is very near and dear to us that turning point usa because i run an organization on 2000 College Campuses and schools across the country. We are understanding the heartbeat of whats going on but california state systems that were probably not going back at all. No school on campus this fall. I hope that they retract that and rethink that because theyre not in favor of science. The other thing is this, we shouldnt act as if just because the schools close theyre just gonna magically be able to reopen. For example, a lot of the Catholic Schools in new jersey and the east coast, because of their very unusual tax filing under the archdiocese say theyre not able to access some of the loan forgiveness that was offered by congress. Some of these schools will never open again. There on very thin margins, they dont have big endowments like our major elitist institutions likes sanford and harvard. Working to see our amazing Catholic Schools close with very little chance of reopening across the country. If we are serious about reopening america, we must reopen schools. How can people go back to work if their kids are still a home. You are spot on with your emphasis on this topic. All right, steve, quick comment from you and them will flip it to talking about what you laid out. Go ahead and comment on schools, steve moore. Americans are afraid of this virus in the media has played such a horrible role in scaring people and not telling people the very science that charlie is talking about. Youre more likely come your kid is more likely to die from walking across the street then from going to school. This is primarily a disease that affects older people. We been so dumb and so stupid about the way weve dealt with this. We didnt keep the nursing home safe, we didnt keep people who are elderly safe, we didnt keep people who have other diseases safe but we wouldnt let young kids go to school and when history books write about what we did over the last three months they will be horrified by it but it is time to get the schools in the camps remember, summer, kids have to go to camp. A lot of states wont even let kids go to camp. Charlie, your reaction to what we had heard, particularly i love the idea, the spending payroll tax towards the end of the year. Its brilliant. The likelihood of nancy pelosi adopting anything thats going to help workers is very unlikely. She seems far more concerned about distributing cash to illegal aliens and helping workers in the time of a crisis. As she said, going on a talk show mocking President Trump while American Workers were in the most desperate point of nee need. So the fact that she will adopt this policy is very small but its a brilliant idea. As an employer, as someone who employs over 200 people, i can tell you a tax cut would be the greatest relief imaginable, good for them and on the employer side to allow us to continue to weather the storm in times of uncertainty. Lisa, quickly, i was very interested in a big part of thi this, the recovery was not dishing out huge amounts of federal money. Your reaction. Wealth course, and this idea that congress, he mentioned this before in your show that congress can save the economy by just pumping money into the system is not going to work because the problem that were seen with the coronavirus is way too decentralized. You cant write targeted policy prescriptions were already seeing errors in the policy is already been signed into law, e