Over the world, take a look at nice. Take a look at paris. Tucker some said they were confused by this, including the Prime Minister of sweden who said this. I was surprised by the comments made made about sweden this weekend. Yes, we have opportunities and challenges, we welcome them every day but we must all take responsibility for using facts correctly and for verifying any information that we spread. Tucker how confused are people really . We may never know. It turns out though the president was referring to a segment on this show. At last we should do an interview with documentary maker who visited sweden to study its immigration experience. Some police there told him this, watch. Do you see the violence spreading across sweden . At least one or two times a week. How often . Three times a year. The increase in this crime is exponential . I think we are caught off guard. We didnt expect so much increase. Do you think there is a deliberate attempt to cover up crimes . Rather, we dont want to seem racist. Tucker the two cops latere denied meaning what they seem to mean, one called mr. Horwitz a mad man. Thank you for coming on. There were a number of pieces today calling into question the documentary. We showed on friday. The allegations of those two policeman, they both said in effect, you misled them and they were not talking about immigration at all. And in effect, this is wrong, the depiction of them. How do you respond. Let me first say that those two guys are really honorable men, they are brave men who are doing a Wonderful Service to their community. They really are. Having said that, can you imagine the amount of pressure that must be on them from their bosses . This maelstrom that they found themselves in . I do not necessarily blame them for wanting to cover themselves on this,ms but the reality is, everything i asked them, they are the ones that discussed. They did not want to be considered racist. They used nogo so in describing these islamic enclaves, not me. Ive been doing this, very high profile videos over the past ten years. I have never had a subject claim and certainly not prove that i ever misled them or docked the footage. It has never happened before. My record stands for itself. Its clear as day, it stands for itself. Tucker thats a pretty generous response considering one of these guys called you a madman. They said they were not talk a about immigrants, high crime areas. S. In sweden. Do think that is possible . Oh, no. The nogo zones are clearly a discussion of islamic enclaves. Why would they say later on that they dont want to be considered racist if they were talking about simply swedes and high crime rates . They were the ones that that they dont want to be picked out as h racist. Its clear from their answers, they were talking about whatever the subject we were talking about. Tucker as it happened, earlier this month, a cop in sweden wrote on facebook his complaints about immigrant crime. They looked into them for a hate crime or some associated crime. So, there were a number of other cases today called into question your crime stats. They basically all echoed the same point, saying there is no crime wave in sweden and certainly no crime wave of a immigrants rapes. How do you answer that . I am glad you asked that. I have read, obviously, a lot of the same stuff, and i want to build the suspenders. I went through them all over again. The keeper of all statistics of Crime Statistics in sweden, some exact numbers. Between 2012 and 2016, the murder rate is up almost 70 . This is sweden statistics. Rape, between 2007 and 2015 is up a similar number. Almost 70 . These are their statistics, not mine. Tucker are these government statistics . So in the last ten years, rape is up dramatically. So the claim, they had a long piece today saying it was not up at all. La if anything, sweden is a little safer than it has been. Let me say, is it crazy they may be lying . I will give you an example. We all look at political act is nonpartisan, correct . If you look at their article today, and discussing our interview to try and debunk it, they said that i said that there are 500 swedish immigrants from islamic countries who have jobs, and everybody else is on unemployed. They said i said that. Those words never left my mouth. Obviously, they lied. That article. If you look at the videotape and interview, look at what they said you can see they are obviously lying. I do not know what to tell you. He just cant what they are saying seriously. Tucker i may have it wrong but i believe that statistic comes from the Swedish National council, by the way. Ay i i dont know if youve ever said it or not. I read it today, and i think its credible. I never said it but tucker ami whereabouts, thank you, that was really interesting. The president s remarks did a cause consternation in sweden. Known for ikea and pop music and its nice people. For more on the swedes reaction, we are joined by u. S. Correspondent. Joining us, we have seen a lot of speculation today about what people in sweden think. I do not know how you can get to the truth of that because in sweden, we were just talking about, you can be imprisoned for giving an unpopular opinion. In a society that practices censorship like that, are people really free to say what they think . One of the policeman, the posted something on facebook that case was dropped straight away. He is not under investigation anymore. He was for a while but because someone reported on him. But it was dropped. Tucker and i am glad he is freet tonight. But hes a cop that said the majority of the crimes i investigate are committed by immigrants. And he was investigated by your government for a crime. Thats got to have a Chilling Effect to put it mildly on peoples willingness to say what they really think. No . People going to prison for talking about these issues, as far as i know, that has only been neonazis. Tucker probably people whose opinions i do not agree with but some people expressing their political opinions who go to prison for that. That is foreign for us here but it has an effect on what people are willing to say in public, do not think . There has been a discussion about what you can say in public, as people are talking about what you are allowed to say and not and things like that but obviously, he posted on facebook and all the media reported about it. E its not like nothing is going to happen to them. Tucker as a journalist, you cannot be in favor of that, can you . He people should be allowed to say what they think, shouldnt they . Of course, people are reading about it in the media now, people are discussing it. It is all out. Tucker there is a book called mass challenge, and i think its one of the biggest selling books, a real library in stockholm refused to put this book on the racks because Library Books ought to be characterized by diversity and pluralism. They are basic saying we are not going to let people read the books because we disagree with it. I do not know about why they do not have that book. M. Tucker you are from sweden, if i were in a party of educated people and saying immigrants commit crimes, how would that go over if people said thats true or what are the statistics . Or would they say, how dare you say that . Right now, the situation ine sweden is that the crime rate is decreasing. There are some numbers that are raising, like gun violence for example. But as far as we know and whatr studies show so far is that it has to do with people coming in from the e. U. , the european union. As far as what we know, it has nothing to do with the refugees coming in. It doesnt really have to do tucker im not making this up, the Swedish National council, according that there stats, rape was up 13 from last year. Thats a big rise. Overall crimes are up from 2016, 6. 5 . Thats a lot of crimes. I do not exactly where you got those numbers from. Tucker the Swedish Nationalum council. The numbers we look at, i am a news reporter. If you look at the overall numbers and what has been going on in the long term, the numbers are definitely going down. It is decreasing, but one of the crimes that has been decreased the most the last year, that was rape. Also, if you look at rape in a wide historical perspective, there are some times when goes a up because the definition of rape and Sexual Assault in sweden has been wider. More incidents are now being considered as rape. That coulder be one of the reasons, if you look at your numbers, im not exactly sure what numbers you have. That could be one of the reasons why looks like more of them. Tucker because of the definition. That may be true. F these are government numbers from sweden, not something i cooked up in my office backstage. But the overall crime rate, they said in 2016 1. 5 million more crimes. Within the year before. Those numbers are pretty clear. Sweden stopped keeping crime stats based on National Origin in 2,000 ones because they were embarrassing. But when they did keep them, they showed thatborn men that were far more likely, four or five times more likelyke to comt crimes then it swedish born men. Its like a real thing. Are people allowed to say that there . In 2015, the police started to put a special code for crimes that were related to a lot of people coming in what we have seen so far, this is just been a short time. Just 1 of the reported crimes that have anything to do with refugees. It is not like it has been hardly talking about on your show, a crime wave or a rape wave, that is not what we see in sweden. Or the numbers are reported in sweden. It was 1 , in that study. Tucker 13 crime spike in rape, presumably there is still real rapes. Another site of that, when they ask women if they have ever been sexually assaulted or raped, that number has actually risen a little bit. One of the reasons for that is that maybe that was think that happened many, many years ago, and now they have realized, maybe that was rape. But the numbers with women reporting rape and Sexual Assault, that has not been up. Tucker i am not sure i fully understand but i appreciate the perspective. Thank you, very much. President trumps comments about sweden, a lot of all that has been scrambled to rebut the notion that theres been a crime wave, foxs concerns about Swedish Crime is it that simple, though . His concern about immigration in sweden really about white racism . Until last month, he was the u. S. Ambassador to sweden, and she joined us after specter. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me,on tucker. Tucker i did not know if we will get to the truth of it but it does seem like there is a legitimate concern about this in sweden, whether the average person feels free to express that. One of the ways we know that is because the government excelled said recently too many people are coming into this country and there is a social cost too this. If the wave of refugees and immigrants was not a problem, why would they throw it down as they have . Im here for two reasons, one is that facts matter. People make decisions based on what they believed to be true and those decisions have consequences. Now more than ever when there is so much misinformation, and we have a president that takes advantage of a wide range of resources and you should be privileged to be one of them in giving him information to make important policy decisions for our country. Its really important and i appreciate the opportunity to have this dialogue with you. I saw your show earlier and i thought it was great when youou talked about we need to move beyond the personality and tweets of the president , we need to talk about the core issues. When you figuretw out how to hae a lot people come here and to be invested in our country. I think you are asking really great questions. Un whats really interesting to me, you have some great guests, thet swedish journalist you had, i think she got in the details of the statistics, i really want to say i could get into it with you for the last two years, i have been steeped in this very much. Ive seen statistics and reports. Numbers, i would just point out that none of what i have seen packs up the claims thatnt mr. Horowitz has made in the interview he had with you and i watched it twice, and i tried to listen for specific evidence or sources that he would say and ii did not hear that. Perhaps i missed it. Tucker he gave statistics from the Swedish National council im talking about the earlier one. Tucker these rape stats are real, maybe thats true, i am not an expert in Swedish Crime stats. But the overall crimes have gone up 1. 000000 in years. I think we can sit here and talk about swedish rape stats, as your guest pointed out, i am not an expert on swedish rape stats, the crime rate has not skyrocketed as claimed. The reason that those rape stats may be high is because sweden encourages people to come forward. Let me move on from that for a moment tucker you just said that facts matter and i just threw out that the overall crime rate has gone up 1. 5 million crimes in the year. Maybe that has nothing to do with the refugees flooding into the country but the truth remains that the government has said its just too many people, we cannot handle it. What is so controversial for americans to note that this is a problem . When the swedish government itself is sayingngic that . Its really interesting to me that for the last two days, we have been talking about sweden. We are talking about this and i think what the real conversation is, what we are really saying this is a conversation about security, fear, and misunderstanding. And its about us. We are talking about sweden because what we are really talking about is could this happen to us . I can tell you that sweden is a wonderful country, i can go on about it, it is they had their challenges. They have taken a lot of people and they are dealing with the challenges. That does not mean that that is somehow related to migrants, when you take so many people. We are never going to be sweden. Sweden has taken about 200,000 people over the last three years, proportion to our population. If we were to take that many people, we would have taken 67 million refugees. Tucker im running out of patience because youre not getting into the core it has to do with us what does this have to do with us . S . Tucker they have the exact same response, anyone with a qualm about this, my point is there are real reasons not to like it, you do not have to be a bigot not to like it, there are social and economic costs and nobody on the left wants to admit it and i do not know why. Its very patronizing and annoying to have to lie. Would mr. Horowitz with having that conversation with you, saying i went to some swanky party, that actually made me crack up a little bit. That is suspicious to me. Tucker the party that was considered so right wing is now vying for second place. The support has doubled in the past few years, why is that . You want to talk about core issues, this is another country we are talking about, the politics and demographics and challenges of another country. Why are we talking about any other country . Why are we talking about sweden . What is this have to do with us . Tucker we can talk about france, germany, belgium, great britain. Its a template for what is happening here. That is why. That is what im trying to say. Thats what i started out by saying, lets talk about the core issues. We are talking about this because we think it has something to do with us. Tucker we are out of time, i wish we had gotten more to the point here, ambassador. I appreciate your expertise. Thank you very much. Up next, President Trump announced his next choice for National Security advisor. We will tell you more about who he picked. Also the British Parliament spent hours debating whether our president would be welcomed by the queen, we talk about what that debate might mean for our special relationship, next. S was built with passion. But i keep it growing by making every dollar count. Thats why i have the spark cash card from capital one. With it, i earn unlimited 2 cash back on all of my purchasing. And that unlimited 2 cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business. Which adds fuel to my bottom line. Whats in your wallet . Tucker President Trump revealed his replacement for general mike flynn today, announcing that general h. R. Mcmaster will take his placece as National Security advisor. We are joined by john roberts. Good evening to you, h. R. Mcmaster, a highly decorated career officer in the military, the guy who has been a Combatant Commander in the gulf war Operation Iraqi freedom. Very, very well respected. Very hawkish on russia and skeptical on vladimir putin. Which may calm conservatives with President Trumps approach to russia. The president clearly happy there, maralago out of a National Security advisor on board. A man of tremendous talent and experience, i have read a lot over the last two days, he is highly respected by everybody in the military, we are very honored to have him. I just want to say what a privilege it is to be continuing to serve our nation, i am grateful for that opportunity. Look at what senator john mccain tweeted out. On the docket for tomorrow here at the white house, we are expecting that the white House Counsel will approve some new powers and manpower for dhs to deal with illegal immigration. Secretary john kelly sent over documents, they will among other things hire an additional 10,000 i. C. E. Agents, and more Border Patrol agents and focus on prioritizing the removal of criminal aliens, convicted of a criminal offense, those that have a charge pending against them, people that have abused Public Benefit programs. Interesting aspect and are subject to removal orders but are still in the country, basically they are targeted for deportation but they have not yet left thehe country. The 287g program which of the partnership with local Law Enforcement to get them involved in defending the border and apprehending illegal aliens. But it does not include the national guard. Of course, later on this week we are expecting the extreme vetting executive order. This one according to the white house will pass legal muster because it will creat