Transcripts For FOXNEWSW The Kelly File 20161019 : compareme

Transcripts For FOXNEWSW The Kelly File 20161019

Her lead, dont take any chances. And trump, well he has nothing to lose. Heres a little of the rally he just wrapped up. Well in 21 days were going to win the state of colorado and were going to win the white house. Vi a feeling this is another brexit. This is going to be interesting. Tomorrow night is going to be interesting. Now shes home sleeping and im working. So thats the way its going to be in the white house, too. Shed be sleeping, id be working. We will make america wealthy again. We will make america strong again. We will make america safe again and we will make America Great again. Thank you everybody. God bless you. In moments well go over brandnew poll with Chris Stirewalt but we begin with campaign karl cameron reporting about stunning news about who donald trump is bringing with hum tomorrow night. Reporter so tomorrow night what happens in vegas could change the course of the american body of politic according to donald trump. This afternoon at the white house president obama was pretty tough on donald trump at a joint News Conference with the italian Prime Minister in the rose garden. Just a few hours after that criticism from the president , the Trump Campaign has now announced theyll have a special guest tomorrow. It will be the president s kenyan born half brother, malik obama who is a trump supporter. And he will be in the audience. He has said that he does not intend to have any kind of a preevent News Conference as the Clinton Accusers did at the last debate. But this is one of those things thats meant to be a head game and a little bit of psychological operations against the opposition. For his part today in colorado, a battleground state where hes trailing in the polls, trump was pointing out that he is now convinced that the media is rigging the election against him by trying to depress his voter turnout, an interesting turn of events since his aides have said for quite some time much of his attacks on clinton has been designed to suppress her turnout. Heres how trump put it today even though were doing pretty good in the polls, i dont believe the polls anymore. I dont believe them. I dont believe them. And if theres ten and if theres one or two bad ones with, thats the only one they show. Believe me folks, were doing great. The press has created a rigged system and poisoned the mind of so many of oush voters. I think the media is trying to discourage our people from going out to vote. And trump is of course not running against the media, hes running against Hillary Clinton. And hes road trust tested is series of new attacks on her and some new policies. Today he suggested that its time for term limits and hes put forth his proposal. Watch. If im elected president i will push for a constitutional amendment to propose term limits on all members of congress. Im proposing a term limit of six years for members of the house and 12 years for members of the Senate Reporter very difficult to accomplish but tremendously popular with voters on both sides fed up with their candidates and the nature and tenor of this race for the last year and a half. Thank you. Well those details from the Trump Campaign trail come just as brandnew fox news polls show the republican nominee picks up one point over last weeks poll. That leaves mrs. Clinton with a sevenpoint edge. Joining me now, Chris Stirewalt and dana perino. He served as secretary of education under president reagan. Great to see you all. So i mean, he doesnt believe the polls . Well the man who has been talking nothing but polls for an entire year and a half. Politicians, how many times have we heard that the only poll that matters on election day. You know who always says that in the one whos losing. This is normal, right . We want to make this into an abnormal election. Weve never seen anything like it. Donald trump does talk louder. He doesnt do things that other people dont do. But we know what this looks like. This looks like 1996 and i dont whether you remember but the republicans didnt win that one. And the opposition doesnt seem to be getting any softer, dana. 61 of voters say that clinton has a temperament to serve effective uly as president , 61 believe that trump does not. She has led in 17 straight fourway national polls. 17. And in fox news poll tonight that just came out, one of the things she beats him on every issue except for the economy. He did a little better on that one. If he can make the debate tomorrow night not about himself but what he would do to change the economy how about malik obama . That is a little bit of a distraction. Who am i advising . What do i know . Thats an interesting choice. Right. This is a legacy play for him. I was thinking about this earlier. A lot of people were talking about president obama laying out his legacy. But tomorrow night and the next thee weeks, donald trump, this is a legacy move. Whatever happens, that will be the biggest story of his life. As we have done for a year and a half, we look at donald trump and we marvel and we dont understand why he makes some choices like bringing the president s half brother to the president ial can bait hes having with Hillary Clinton. And you actually believe, unlike others, that that is actually what he needs, that he doesnt need to be pushing the crossover voters now. He needs to be generating enthusiasm in the base. She needs to strengthen the base, absolutely. What does he do to crossover, change his view bs with change his mind. He needs to remind people why he is where he is. And hes at 40 . Maybe not enough to win but he needs to remind people of what he was talking about, the immigration issue, islamic terrorism, the sad and depressed state of america. 40 of so of the American People like him and want to vote for him, maybe more. We shall see. I assume with all of the piling on with trump were still going to let democracy work and see what happens. The dice, one out of 18 chance he has. Roll that dice, you might get one out of 18. Possible. It happens here all of the time. People dont leave winning but they win occasionally. Theres a serious dimension to donald trump otherwise you think those 40 of americans are what Hillary Clinton says, which are deplorable people. Theyre not. She speaks to real issues, important issues. I hope he does tomorrow night. If its all stunt and histrionics, infantile vulgarity, then hes done. One other thing. Theres theoretical belief about how youre going to do and operational belief. You know, texas a m is playing alabama this weekend. Check the line. I did down here. 16 points. I know what bill has been doing the past day or two in vegas. Well, youre here. He never shows followup for live onset its interesting. Inside joke. Operationally those guys will go into that game believing they can win. Thats what hes got to do tomorrow night and do it in a serious way. His bheefs havent all panned out. We saw at the beginning of the race donald trump telling us that hes going to change the electoral map. Watch new york, new jersey, i just took a look, we went back and look at the seven states he continued to mention, new york, shes up 20, new jersey he said, 12, california he said he would play in, shes up 20, oregon up 19, illinois up 15, Washington State hes up 14, michigan shes up ten and now youve got states like georgia, arizona, texas and utah moving from deep red to pink. Theyre no longer solid republican. Rosette. Medium rare. The reality for donald trump, he wants to talk about a rigged election, saying that the election is going to be stolen. Youve got to be close to have it stolen and hes not close. Thats the problem. Hes got a narrative where hes telling his supporters hes prefiguring a defeat. This is what thing i cant understand about his message. It says dont vote really because were losing an theyre going to steal it any way. Its rigged. It confound my thinking that a may jr. President ial candidate wants to take a risk, which really is the envy of the world. We do this really well. And i dont think it works. Tonight dana, shes facing a lot of controversy as well and were going to get to the wikileaks scandal in our next block. But donald trump jr. Has come under fire today was similar to his father he also wept on a bunch of radio shows and made some comments disparaging quote fat people and making light of the aurora, colorado mass shooting that resulted in the deaths of some children. Heres a clip of what he said thats gotten him in trouble. Everything was going good until we saw gas and sparks, sounded like really strong fire works. And this then you hear people yelling. A girl gets up hold her jaw and i guess she had got shot. Overall, two thumbsup. Thats not it. Thats not spliced together. Theyre not responding to it as illegitimate or spliced together. Were more than willing to accept any comment from trump on that. There are a few of these that have surfaced tonight locker room talk or whatever they want to describe it is turning off people all across the country. Whats really sad for me, he was in colorado today and theres a huge crowd there and theyre so excited in him and they believed in him and his message and hes telling them that the poll is rigged, the media is rigged, none of this is true. Its giving people false hope or belief in what thats happening and they have legitimate issues in front of the government. The worst thing for republicans or conservatives is Wishful Thinking and were awash in it. Bill, ill give you the final word. Most of the talk here has been about donald trump. Most of it has been critical. There is someone else running, i think shes a disgrace. I think what bill sapphire said 20 years ago, shes a congenital liar, its true. You shouldnt say thing about fat people, and you shouldnt act like an infant in your conversation. But were talking about the future of the country. And i think that Hillary Clinton may bring this country to the brink of disaster. Paul ryan, if you want to cite trump, paul ryan pointed out if we keep spending the way were spending with we may not be able to pull it back. Trump may not get it right but shell get it all wrong. Great to see you all. I know where bill is going. There he goes. Let it ride, baby. Not anymore. Well for the First Time Ever in less than 24 hours a fox news anchor is going to moderate tomorrow nights general election president ial debate. Chris wallace, an on speier questioner. He will press the candidates. His questions will be so mean and hard youre going to love him. And he gets to moderate the all important final debate between these two, trump and clinton 37 the coverage begins at 6 p. M. Dont miss the fox news debate. New fallout from an undercover video that catches some democratic staffers con fezzing to making trouble al republican rallies. James rosen has a full report. After Melania Trump fiercely defends her husband, one major media outlet fires back. And then the fbi agent in the middle of an explosive controversy over mrs. Clintons email is now talking. This is very rare. Up next well show you what hes saying and well ask attorney allen dirs wits whether me laws were broken here. 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But once he learned that kennedy wanted an email downclassed, he backed out. The agent pressured him to change the email classification and relayed the kennedy conversation as a quid pro quo. The fbi records also show kennedy pushed hard and often to reduce the number of classified email found on clintons personal server she used as secretary of state. And kennedy did so for months after congress issued a subpoena and preservation order for the email in march of last year trying to change the email after march 4th, 2015 would in effect change or alter the evidence that had been requested by congress. So first of all, these were documents for public release through the foia process, not necessarily what we shared with congress. These documents report Career State Department personnel were quote suspicious of a special group of employees brought in to review the email classification. Some had worked with david kendall, Hillary Clintons long time personal attorney. They described an atmosphere of a shadow government. Hillary clinton was out there trying to get her former people, her own attorneys to be the one that made the determination on these documents. The state department would not even acknowledge today the appearance of a conflict. And late tonight the republican chairman of the House Judiciary Committee is asking the attorney general to investigation kennedy for possible violations of public corruption laws. Catherin. Joining me now with more, Alan Dershowitz, harvard law professor and author of the book e leg tile dysfunction. This guy kennedy was actively involved in covering hillarys tracks. And when the fbi agent involved said we cant change the classification on this document, thank you for your offer, but we cant, we went above the guys head and went to the head of the fbis Counterterrorism Division Michael Stein batch and to steinbacks credit, he said im not doing this, you dont control us, sir. And the email classification remained the same. You tl me whether Patrick Kennedy can face any legal consequences for his deeds. Well certainly this races policy issues. And its a fair point for any voter to think about. But i searched the criminal code today and i could not find any possible criminal statue that was violated despite Donald Trumps statement that this is a quote felony crime. Agencies negotiate with themselves all of the time. Presumably if the classification would change, congress would know about it. They see the original and they seen the change. Its not an obstruction of justice or not a defines of the subpoena. And interagency quid pro quo is common. You find agencies saying ill do this for you wu, you do this for me. When theres a pending subpoena in the so pena was in. They had top produce the documents. Kennedy works were us, works for you and me. Instead of looking out for our interest hes looking to protect hillarys back. Weve got to get this classification change. Here are a bunch of goodies if youll change it. Thats a fair point of view. But from a criminal point of view as long as there was no intention to prevent congress from knowing that the original class fiegs cause to be classified and then it was changed, if that were to happen for a public release, for a foia release, that would not be a crime. Its very easy to throw around the term crime. And i think too much in our politics we tend to criminalize policy differences and im always against that. Whether its governor perry of texas or tom delay, i was against that. We have to be careful that the criminal law is only applied objectively by neutral career politicians and nobody should be go ahead. Giving you that point. Yeah. You tell me as a lawyer whether what this guy kennedy did smells bad and whether there should be some sort of accountability in your judgment as somebody who studies and knows the law for this kind of behavior after youve received a subpoena. I think so. And i think it might to be an internal department mental investigation. You put your finger on it exactly to see whether he was serving the interest of the American Public or the interest of an incumbent in office. And thats a fair point to investigation. The point im making is lets not jump to using terms like felony and criminal when we feel strongly that a person violated policies. Thats a very important line not to go over. Thats why i was so upset when donald trump said he wants to see Hillary Clinton in jail. I would be equally upset if Hillary Clinton said if i get elected im going to investigate Trump University and put trump in jail. We should not fix politics and

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