Listen. You know, i dont plan on sticking to the guidelines. I remain appalled by these home quarantine policies that have been forced upon me even though i am in perfectly good health. You have the joints chiefs of staff recommending to the department of defense that troops, u. S. Troops coming home from ebola fighting missions in west africa, be quarantined for 21 days. Why is it so abhorrentnjnn to yo put yourself in that very same position . You know, i truly believe that this policy is not scientifically nor constitutionally just. And so i am not going to sit around and be bullied by politicians and force today stay in my home when i am not a risk to the american public. You have to remember that just a couple days earlier dr. Craig spencer returned from guinea where he was treating ebola patients. He moved freely about the new york area. Then he developed symptoms and was diagnosed with ebola. Do you understand what that did to the psyche of Public Officials in what is a metropolis of 9 Million People . Of course, i do understand that it is created a lot of fear. But we still have to make policies based on evidence. Are you prepared to take legal action not only against the state of new jersey but now the state of maine if they decide to enforce this quarantine period . If the restrictions placed on me by the state of maine are not lifted by thursday morning, i will go to court to fight for my freedom. I do think theres a compromise. I dont think its being that right now because currently im the one thats suffering. Trace gallagher picks up the story from there. Trace. And, megyn, even though you just heard kaci hickox threaten legal action if maine doesnt lift the quarantine to walk that back telling us they would only pursue court action if the state physically prevents her from leaving her home. The quarantine is voluntary, so its unclear if the state is willing to detain her. T police cars in front of her fhf,9me. Ju paul la page says the police are for her protection and the health of the community. And maines health and Human ServiceDepartment Says if hickox plans to take legal action, she better hurry because maine is doing the very same. Listen. There are lawyers involved at this point. We are committed to the importance and the value of the protocol that we have set forth. So its very likely a judge will decide. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie who started this standoff by forcing kaci hickox into quarantine in his state was also asked about facing legal action. Listen. Whatever. Get in line. Ive been sued lots of times before. Get in line. Im happy to take her on. She had access to the internet and we brought her takeout food. But many Health Officials have criticized the strict quarantine guidelines. The new england journal of medicine says the the equivalent of driving a carpet tack in with a sledge hammer. Kaci hickox saysxfz she underss the concern over ebola, but shes relying on science not emotion. Here she is. I havent seen any scienceuo that says this is a huge risk. And i have seen science that says selfmonitoring works. And selfmonitoring is a humane understandable prudent solution. And for now she claims to be symptom free. In a moment we will be joined by a doctor who actually had ebola. And hear what he has to say about kacis confinement. First, there are new developments tonight with the leaked state Department Memo concerning the possibility of bringing ebola patients who are noncitizens to america for treatment. The document was leaked to fox news yesterday. And argued for flying infected patients to the u. S. Saying we need to show leadership and act as we are asking others to act by admitting noncitizens into the country for medical treatment for ebola virus disease during the ebola crisis. The state Department Today played that down. The document referenced was drafted by a midlevel official but not cleared by senior leaders. It never came to senior officials for approval. Essentially what youre saying is that one guy somewhere in this building came up with this idea and put it on paper, but it never went anywhere . Is that what youre say sng . Correct. Mike emanuel reports on that tonight from washington. Mike. Hi, megyn. State Department Officials say this fivepage memo was not discussed at the highest levels and suggests it never went very far in the process. And spokesperson jen psaki says the idea of bringing sick noncitizens to the u. S. Irrelevant. The important point here is our European Partners since several weeks ago when that was written have addressed this by providing a garn teen to Health Workers that they would be flown to europe or receive high quality treatment on spot. So its not applicable at this point. In the memo marked sensitive gi detail saying there are four medical e situations situations. One, medical evacuation capacity, two, overflight, refueling andn;n landing permission, three, a hospital able and unwilling to treat the patient, and four, backstop reimbursement art 200,000 for medevac and 300,000 per treatment for case. Plus note the need for 24hour care with up to seven medical professionals on duty attending that one patient. [yu Bob Goodlatte is furious saying its alarming that seniorco oba vehemently denied the existence of any plans for treatment document shows such a proposal indeed exists. Iowa republican senator Chuck Grassley says the best way to keep ebola from coming to the u. S. Is to attack it in west africa, not here. Believe this was some random bureaucrat drawing this up on his own. They note it was sent to the department of Homeland Security to start the interagency process. Megyn. Interesting fact. Mike, thanks. In august of this year dr. Rick sacra was a medical missionary working in liberia when he contracted ebola. He was flown to the United States, he recovered. And hes now criticizing these calls to quarantine exposed health care 9 d÷workers. Dr. Rick sacra joins us tonight from boston. Thank you for being here with us. Weve got kaci hickox saying she does not deserve to bepm9i quarantined, finds its appalling, shes the one suffering and that selfmonitoring works and that this quarantine is an overreaction. Do you agree . You know, shes not ill. Shes not sick. She doesnt have a fever. She doesnt have other symptoms. And the science suggests that shes really not a risk to anyone at this time. So in that sense, yes, i support her contention. Shes not a risk. Okay. The reason you confine someone is because theyre a risk. Shes not a risk. Heres why people are concerned about her and other 2 workers, i think. Because first of all in 13 ofv ebola cases you have no fever. So not having a fever isnt the endall tellall about whether you have ebola, right . I think, you know, you cant take a statistic like that in the absence of contextmk[m somes people with ebola at the end of their lives will no longer be able to mount a fever because theyre so weak. So when someone arrives at the tent for treatment in west africa and theyre about to die, they may not be having a fever. generally Healthy People likenv ms. 7[h . hickox, when they deve ebola, they willxdu have a ko. Understood. Heres my next question. One of the reasons people think these people need to be quarantined is for example the case of dr. Spencer who came to the United States, was running around new york, claiming to authorities according to a report innr New York Post tod that he li3selfquarantined bs metro card according to officials proved hed been running around the city and then as it turnskco out i went to brooklyn, i roder e atrain, ltrain and number 1 train and i took an uber car and i went to not one, but two bowling alleys and out to a restaurant ands w that 11 hours before i had to go into a hospital room where people couldnt get near me unless they were wearing full hazmat gear. So people say how could it be you want to approach him at 11 00 in the morning, you want to put the protective gear on, but 11 hours earlier it was fine to bowl next to him, eat next to him and ride next toxd him on t subway car. I think the you know, lets remember the case of mr. Duncan in texas. He lived in an apartment with multiple other family members for two and a half days while he was ill, sharing the same furniture, being in an apartment together. None of those other people but then that same guy gave ebola to two medical workers who were covered head to toe. Right. When he was much sicker and they were dealing with his blood and bodily fluids. I dont think anyone was dealing with dr. N spencers blood and bodily fluids. Well, then how did the cameraman from nbc news get it when he wasnt dealing handtohand with ebola patients. He was directly filming and sometimes assisting teem who were doing dealing with burials. Let me finish. Wait now. Let me finish. These are the stories that getxuva people concerned. At the end of life when people are dying of ebola, that is whentd n they are most contagious. Mr. Mukpo was filming and documenting the activities of a burial team when they were most contagious. Thats the time when they are the most contagious. Im telling you what our viewers tell me and what has them concerned and why they think the quarantine is good and dont much care about the nurses inconvenience. Heres what dr. Frieden said about the nurse, remember amber vinson, the second nurse in dallas the one we found out flew from ohio to dallas and back, when asked whether that was appropriate and keep in mind she was not showing the symptoms, she was starting to feel ill, but the cdc had given her permission to fly back initially because the fever was there but lower than the standard, this is what he said in retrospect about her travel. Listen. The Second Health care worker reported no symptoms and no fever, however because at that point she was in a÷ioqp kjc0td individuals known to have exposure to ebola, she should not have traveled on a commercial airline. Isnt that an admission that putting yourself in a crowded field whether its a commercial airline or a subway train or a restaurant is potentially dangerous and should not be allowed and therefore supports a quarantine of the type imposed . Again, i dont feel theres any science to back this up. I dont know how many people on the flight have become ill now. Do you know how many . From the plane . Im questioning you what dr. Frieden im not a medical doctor. Hes saying she had no business on a commercial airplane. Thats because she did not have a normal temperature. She was 99. 5. He didnt say that. He said she had no fever. He said she shouldnt have been doing it because she had been exposed to ebola patients. Right. Because she was part of a group of people because we already knew one of thoseije nurses ha become sick. So we know that there was not just potential exposure or of someone in a hazmat suit doing everything properly, but we know that somehow there was an exposure with that patient. So she goes into a higher risk group. Dr. Sacra, thank you for joining us. Were sorry you contracted the disease. Were glad youre well tonight. Thanks for being here with us. Thank you. We have a new bombshell leak new warning from the attorney general himself. Whoever the sources of the leaks are need to shut up. Oh, well, okay. Up next, we will go live to missouri where things are getting increasingly tense as we await a grand jury ruling on the Police Shooting of michael brown. W a plus, in an already nast take the cake. That story just ahead. Stand your ground law cause the shooting death of Trayvon Martin. Now consider democrat kay hagan. What are you doing . Dish issues . Get cascade complete. One pac cleans better than six pacs of the bargain brand combined. Cascade. Now thats clean. 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Breaking nrtonight, a serie of new bombshell reports out of ferguson, missouri, as aco decision could come any day now from the grand juryt deciding should be charged in the shooting death of michael brown. This is just the latest in the series of events that attorney general ericcop;w holder now needs to stop, the leaks, he says, needs to stop because he says theyre being used to sway public opinion. Listen. We have an ongoing pattern o practice investigation that we have announced with dep. So i dont think it would be appropriate for me to commentlpn any specifics that you have just mentioned. But i will say that i think its pretty n queer that the need fo wholesale change in that department is appropriate. Exactly what the forms of xa]n change will be i think well wait until we complete our inquiry. Joining me now, mercedes kolin, fox news legal analyst start with you, mercedes. Is it appropriate for the attorney general when being asked about leaks in the case to go right to, let me tell you, ive got an investigationni6z into this Police Department and problems that imxw6c going to care of. Lp basicallyw3 what he said. How completely inappropriate. If you have an open investigation, you do youso Due Diligence and then you infer with your conclusions. But to say i have all these changes that have to be made at the department. Theyre already condemning the department when you start off,o this by saying i havent 0aw completed my investigation. So your investigation is biased from step one. Uhhuh. Mcgraw, theres been criticism of this prosecutor whos taken the case before the grand jury from people who want to see an indictment saying the fix is in, hes got a bunch of cops in his family, he wants to prosecute a different defendant in a similar case, the fix is in. Where are the people saying the fix is in with the attorney general of the United States who seems very determined that the ferguson Police Department is incredibly messed up and hes the man to change it . Not only did he say that, but remember when this thing first started he came to st. Louis and met with Michael Browns family ÷ justice for michael brown. At that point you can say the federal investigation was tainted because he didnt meet with officer wilsonsiene famil say i want justice for officer wilson as is. So from the beginning many people have said his investigation has been skewed. Mercedes, what can he do if the grand jury doesnt go after this Police Officer . Can he, eric eowholder, go aft him . Can he go after the whole Police Department . He can. He can do both. He can bring federal charges, criminal charges against officer wilson. And he can also monitor the Police Department overall with the agency powers he has. You can prosecute someone on a state local level and also federally. Mcgraw, how high are tensions right now . Ive asked some schools to ask the prosecutor to release the grand jury on a sunday or after 5 00 p. M. To protect children. Theyre talking about bringing in the National Guard and so on. Yeah. Attention is high. And it remains high. And i would sayedraeuju tk regardless of what side of the issue youre on on this thinks that the worst is yet to come. And that we have not seen the worst of it. And quite frankly i think a lot of people applaud the School Districts to take action. Would you rather your School District not anticipate what ] fuu the kids o to school in something that might be dangerous . Are there leaders out there now saying maintain the calm no matter what the grand jury decides . No, actually, just the opposite. 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