This is this is beyond anything that weve weve seen. So we so we must prepare for everything. Ever and the only way you do that is and the only way you do that is you take a you take a cold steely hard look at i at it. And and get ready. The the immediacy is in the number of of europeans and other nationalities who have com nationalities who have come to the the region to become part of that that ideology. Those folks go those folks go home at some point. Its because of its because of open borders and immigration immigration issues. Its an its an immediate threat. Beyond a beyond anything. Prepare for prepare for everything. It is an immediate it is an immediate threat. That message is that message is pretty clear. So why so why then did the chairman of the joint the joint chiefs, the man you just just heard second there, yesterday appear to yesterday appear to walk that back saying back saying yesterday off camera isis is more isis is more of a regional threat and is not threat and is not currently planning any planning any attacks on the United States or United States or europe. Our own ed our own ed henry just filed this report. Megyn, af megyn, after a vacation that featured nine rounds of featured nine rounds of golf, president o president obamas aides today tried a tried a mulligan, or a doover about the about the original comments back to the to the new yorker back in january in which he january in which he claimed terrorists terrorists like isis were merely the jayvee squad. The jayvee squad. Josh earnest today josh earnest today incysting the president was president was not sickling out isis but isis but opining about different threats posed by threats posed by various extremists. Extremists. Meanwhile, the white house meanwhile, the white appears to be appears to be tweaking what general Martin Dempsey said last thursday when thursday when he and defense secretary chuck hagel secretary chuck hagel issued dire warnings dire warnings about isis. Youll remember youll remember dempsey said the only way to actually only way to actually defeat isis was to go was to go in to syria with the u. S. U. S. Military. Dempsey now dempsey now clarifying that isis is just is just a regional threat. And hes and hes not sure about u. S. Military military action. Officials deny that officials deny that dempsey was pressured though they are pressured though they are vagu on whether they agree with what on whether they agree with what he he originally said about syria military military action. Listen. He he suggested we have to go into syria if were going to defeat defeat isis. Does the president does the president agree with that . Again, what i would again, what i would go back to is the to is the president s stated strategy for strategy for dealing with isil, which which is to remember that there are more are more tools in the tool box than just than just military force. Youre saying youre saying you have to go into syria into syria to defeat them, does the president agree with that . Again, what i think he was saying is there are a range of sa ways for us to confront this threat, we need to con fropt this threat in a sustainable way. It cant be it cant be just brute u. S. Military military force. Republican Lindsay Graham said the administration is pressuring pressuring leaders from going back after back after isis in full throttle because the because the administration doesnt want to admit its had a failed strategy in dealingith isis. President s aides president s aides reject that notion though they have been all notion though they have been all over the map on isis originally over the map on isis origi suggesting they were suggesting they were the jayvee squad, last week squad, last week suggesting actually isis was even worse than than al qaeda pre9 11. Now theyre now theyre saying theyre not quite sure quite sure about the threat. Megyn. Ed ed henry, thank you. So so whats going on here . Lieutenant colonel ralph Lieutenant Colonel ralph peters is a fox news is a fox news strategic analyst and he and he thinks he knows. Ralph, the chairman of the joint ralph, the chairman chiefs is not supposed to be messing with the information in order to assuage political concerns. So what do you believe is so what do you believe is the likelihood that somebody likelihood that somebody took general general dempsey out behind the wood shed over wood shed over the weekend and said what are said what are you saying the threat threat is imminent for. They took him out behind the wood shed and for wood shed and for an extended period. But lets reason, but lets reason, megyn, he deserved it. Deserved it. Because general dempsey because general dempsey committed the committed the greatest sin you can commit in the can commit in the Obama Administration last week. Administration las he told the truth. He told the truth that isis is a growing threat to the United States. That the border no that the border no longer exists between syria and iraq. That you cant that you cant defeat the Islamic State without going Islamic State without going into syria. That we have to be that we have to be worried about the thousands of the thousands of westerners who have flocked have flocked to them. And that just and that just doesnt go with them being them being a jayvee team or the administrations administrations narrative. And if and if general dempsey and secretary hagel secretary hagel are right, obama would have to do would have to do something. So so with a wave of the president s magic golf president s magic golf club, suddenly suddenly were back to its not an immediate threat, its not a threat to the u. S. Threat to the u. S. Megyn, allfully megyn, allfully pansy aside, this reminds this reminds me when i was in the pentagon the pentagon in the late clinton years, and maybe years, and maybe used the same words but words but basically the Clinton Administration administration insisted that al qaeda could never qaeda could never really attack the United States the United States because they were jayvee. Were jayvee. They seem all over the board on on this, ralph. I cant keep up with the i cant keep up with the changing changing stories about isis. The the jayvee comment is just its very problematic its very problematic for this administration. Administration its not like that its not like that was three years ago. Year that was in january when the black flag of isis was flying over fallujah and they said that. So the question so the question is whether you think president obama is think president obama is disengaged, is he disengaged, is he unprepared, is he he disillusioned right now as some some suggest . Well, i think hes well, i think hes sulking. I mean, hes just i mean, hes just not going to clean his clean his room and you cant make him and you cant make him clean up his room. His room. Hes such a child. Hes such its really alarming because he needs to get out of this snit and do something. To be fair to obama, and i want to be fair to him, i think it really hurt him badly, megyn, that he got so muchagelation early on, that he got that ridiculously wildly premature nobel prize before hed done anything. And he expected and he expected i think he sincerely expected his personal charm would work on the whole world including islamist terrorists. So he put our so he put our military on ice and was and was said some nice things about about islam. That the terrorist threat would that the terrori go away. This man came to office with the worst level of naivety about the way it wasnt just president obama who felt that way, ralph. It was a lot of folks who voted for him and were war weary and thought if we took a different approach maybe we would get a different result. Well, yeah. And i think, you know, the American Media were so resolutely antibush that no matter what bush did it was going to be wrong. The Bush Administration made countless mistakes. And i criticized them when they did. Di but lets make no but lets make no mistake, you know, if know, if bill clinton had to the left would have the left would have celebrated him him as the greatest liberator since abraham since abraham lincoln. The problem the problem wasnt so much what bush did bush did but who did it. Let me let me ask a question. Theres a report theres a report coming out in tomorrows ne tomorrows New York Times that two of our two of our allies, our supposed allies in the allies in the middle east, egypt and the and the uae, have teamed up to bomb libya bomb libya without keeping us in the loop. The loop. Heres a quote heres a quote from the article, twice in the last seven twice in the last seven days egypt and the egypt and the uae have secretly teamed up to teamed up to launch air strikes against against islamistallied militias for control of for control of tripoli, libya, four four senior american officials said. The United States, the the United States, the officials said was said was caught by surprise. Both acted both acted without informing washington washington or seening its consent consent leaving the Obama Administration on the administration on the sidelines. What does that say what does that say to you about where america stands in the wh world right now . Well, it means that our allies, egypt and the United Arab Emirates dont trust us anymore. They were afraid that if they told us that the obama they were afraid that if they administration would either leak told it to the qataris and turks or wed try to stop them. And obama left an utter mess in libya. The the egyptians live next door. United arab emirates is United Arab Emirates is worried about the rise about the rise of islamic extremism. And what does the and what does the Obama Administration administration do . Keep keep egypt at arms length and cozies up to the cozies up to the qataris, to the turks turks who back the Muslim Brotherhood and brotherhood and who gave free passes through passes through turkey to the people who became the Islamic State state terrorists. I i mean, gutted absolutely upside down, but down, but the bottom line is our allies cant trust allies cant trust us, our enemies dont fear enemies dont fear us. And you and you cant blame that on bush. Ralph, good to ralph, good to see you. Thank you, thank you, megyn. Joining joining us now with the other side, larry side, larry korb. Former assistant secretary of former assistant s defense. Larry, your take on what larry, your take on what seems to be a to be a shifting message from the administration on the administration on isis and what kind what kind of threat it poses to us. Well, well, theres no doubt about the fact the fact that they were surprised that the surprised that the Iraqi Military folded so military folded so quickly. I think if the i think if the Iraqi Military had fought had fought the way that they should have we would not be should have we would not be sitting here sitting here saying, gee, look how good how good isis is because not only did only did they fold, they got all the equipment which the equipment which they then used to almost used to almost get into but but the administration has been warned in recent months by the the iraqis saying this threat is growing, isis needs growing, isis needs to be bombed, we need your bombed, we need your help. Our own intel our own intel forces were telling the president you have to watch this group, theres a rising threat, we need to be ri wor worried. And we didnt do anything. Well, worried. And we didnt do anything. Well, again, what the president president said, and i think it was correct, was correct, is until maliki goes, the goes, the sunnis wont fight. And eventually no and eventually no matter how long you stay, long you stay, theyre going to have to fight for their own country. And and i think because of that the pressure that pressure that maliki did step down and down and the longterm outlook i think is think is much better than it would have been if we had would have been if we had in in but look at syria. I get your point i get your point on iraq. There was pressure in some there was pressure in circles for us circles for us to go into syria early early onto help these resistance fighters. He didnt want to do he didnt want to do it. Then this then this transformation occurred occurred within that group and now isis has basically taken over. Over now we have the chairman of the joint chiefs saying just last thursday were not going to get rid of isis unless we bomb syria, but were not prepared to do. Shouldnt we have just gone in shouldnt we have just gone in earlier . The administrations the administrations taking fire for for putting us in a position now where we where we now have an islamic caliphate whose eventual goal caliphate whose eventual goal is to come after the to come after the United States and should we have done something sooner . Well, well, again, the question is what. What. Because if we had sent arms in like like the saudis did originally to the to the socalled moderates, they ended up in the ended up in the hands of isis. Isis much isis much better fighters. And and what happened was assad let them alone and them alone and went after the moderates. Can you imagine what can you imagine what would have happened if we happened if we sent sophisticated weapons to sophisticated weapons to the socalled socalled moderates and then isis isis captured them including what some people what some people were arguing i similar man similar man techs. First we heard they were jayvee. Then last then last week we had catastrophic talk from chairman of the joint chiefs and secretary of defense. Secret and now yesterday seemed to be, oh, well, its only a regional thing, dont worry. Again, i would disagree that somehow or another the president could get the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff to change his mind. Really . Yes. You dont think he could have been wood shedded . No. Really . Because again under the law, under the law which we did after vietnam when a lot felt the chiefs werent honest, they have a fixed term. They cannot be fired. You cant fire him, but he can certainly make clear his displeasure. General dempseys going to general dempseys goi retire in 2015, theres nothing you can do and i mean the whole idea of the the military, whatever you may think, the military didnt support the surge under bush. So they have their own views. You cant make them do anything. And thats enshrined into law. And general dempsey and that original thing did also say eventually its going to have to be a regional way to deal with this. He he did and he said on thursday that the and u. S. Was not going to be going into syria and bombing it. It was going to be a coalition if anything. If larry, good to see you. Nice to see larry, good to see you. Nice to see you. Up next well speak with the marine corps marine corps veteran Getting National attention after National Attention after he sent a very clear a very clear message to this terror group. Terr wait until you hear this. 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They say anything they say anything from skin tone to the to the pattern of veins in his hands can help hands can help them id this guy. Even before the even before the horror of the foley foley murder, one marine corps vet vet was sending this message to this group by this group by posting an open letter in the letter in the world of social media that media that isis loves to use so much. Much. He wrote he wrote in part, do you really think you stand a chance on u. S. Soil . Do do you really think it would be smart to poke that bear . You you attack us and there is no mercy. Nick nick powers a marine corps veteran who veteran who served in iraq in 2006 and he wrote 2006 and he wrote that letter. Nick, good to nick, good to see you tonight. And and this thing has gone completely viral what you wrote comp back to isis. My own feeling is