Editorial board member mary kissel. Mary, the survivor, what happened . Effectively he was airing President Trump to fire him by giving interview to paul american prospect. You cant go against the president as policies as big as north korea. You continue proclaim to want to stoke and expect not to be fired. Look, paul, some of the president s top aides on both domestic front, gary cohn and polly front, hr mcmaster disagree. I dont think the president had a choice. Paul how did he contradict the president s policy . The president said we are not going to allow icbms that hit the United States. They are going to denuclearize in exchange. Steve bannon is characterized as a hawk but thats actually on the far left side of politics. Paul that would be a strategic victory for china. One of the goal is to push out of asia and theres no military solution to north korea at the same time the president and his chief defense secretary, look, if you get this Nuclear Weapon can missiles that are going to hit up take military action. Exactly. Paul its on the table so undermining the message the president is trying to send to china, the seriousness of purpose in north korea okay, james, bannons legacy, what does this mean . Talk about did he accomplish good or ill . Well, i think in terms of accomplishments, i would put on the plus side, i think he was encouraging in getting the president to get out of the paris climate deal. I think what its breasting with bannon for a lot of conservatives, i think they might be liked his attitude more than all of his policies. The trade and immigration agenda is not exactly free market. He was 44 tax on your income, james. [laughter] paul he was for increasing taxes. He was. I think it should give conservatives pause that he was reaching out to leftwinger bob to make common cause about it. But i think what bannon did bring and this maybe a loss in the white house is an instinct, nonconformism which in washington means youre generally pushing back to people that want to make government much bigger. The concern where you saw conservatives saying disappointment in bannon leaving ivanka trump and jared are not going to be consistent. To be determined, but lets hope for the best. Quickly, hes saying, ive been liberated. And maybe go to breitbart, but could he do more harm to trump outside than having been inside . What has trump accomplished on the weather will slative agenda . Im not sure that hes done much good on the inside. Can he do much worse on the inside . I dont think so. I dont think so, paul. Amid the fallout from the violence in charlottesville last weekend and the continuing protests and counter protests against the country. 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Paul protests and counterprotests continue across the country t president is also taking a stand on the removal on Confederate Monuments in the United States tweeting on thursday, quote, sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statutes and monuments. You cant change history but you can learn from it, robert e. Legionwall washington, who is next . Washington, jefferson, so foolish. Juan williams. Juan, good to see you. Thank you, paul. Paul i want to ask you about the Confederate Monument issue, does he have a point . I have a high regard for history and any kind of effort in the George Orwell sense of trying to rewrite history or propagandize history, you cannot erase the past. Issue is about monuments and monuments are for the living. We with our monuments give honor to the past, the question is what past are we celebrating here, one people about tearing apart the United States of america and denying our constitution in terms of so many of our principles but secondly, i think you have the idea that this is an effort that is now inspiring people on the what they call the altright, people that are neonazis, white supremacist, they have made this cause for themselves and now dividing the whole country. Paul so i agree with all of your points. Do you make some distinction, though, between in the past between somebody like a nathan yeah. Paul and washington . Absolutely. I noticed this people people like al sharpton, she doesnt want to pay for jefferson memorial. Thats wacky to me. In my mind jefferson is a founding father, somebody who put the nation together and not tore it apart and, yes, he had flaws but hes a man of his times and i think that he spoke about the whole notion of liberty and equality for all as well. Paul if you were in the city council would you have vote today rename that park and take down a lee statute . Yes, i would have. Not only would i have done it but i notice his great grandson that lee was about uniting the United States. Specially after the civil war. Thats clear. I dont think that lee would be about, oh, no, lets keep this about the divisive monument. Paul is it a smart thing to be fighting about these things . Its dividing us and giving the White Supremacists a cause celeb, somebody to rally and polarizing on the other side as well. We dont need that right now. It sounds paulie annish to you, paul, we need some sense of healing and positivity and understanding that we are americans, that across these bounds, one of many, thats our slogan, i think this is very important, i thought though, that given President Trumps actions, i think that i look back historically to someone like president eisenhower, in arkansas was trying to stop children from attending school after the 1950 brown decision, he said very quickly, im sending 101st airborne to enforce the law of the law of the land. Paul has obligation to speak with moral clarity. Thats what i think. Paul you dont need to say you have to speak clearly and thats the mistake he made in my view. Yeah. Paul particularly a president , republican president has to speak clearly about extremist on the right. Yeah. Paul in particular. Just like a democratic president has to speak that way to extremists on the left. I would agree completely. This is a moment where you have to say it goes beyond politics and stirring the base or anything of that. You think of, someone like president bush after 9 11 standing there, that brings us together. We were talking about healing. That reminds you, wait a second, i may have differences with paul gigot, but guess what, hes a foal american, we are in this together, our destiny, our prosperity relies on a sense of working together, cooperation and i just think weve broken down some of that fabric and im particularly struck that he didnt respond to antisemitism given his only family where you had people unable to walk out the front door of a synagogue because you had White Supremacists and neo nazis with guns this week. Paul if President Trump called you up and said, juan, i have a mess here, what should i do . What would you advise him to do . I think its pretty clear at this point that he should stand up and speak very clear to the american people, say maybe he made a mistake. Paul hes not good at that point. I think it will be good and i think that he could again not only in terms of speaking but in terms of action, we talked about the monuments, maybe say, you know, i have a different view, i have a better understanding of what has gone on and i think that this is a moment where we can come together as americans. Paul make distinctions between some of the Founding Fathers and maybe understand that some of these monuments were put up in the jim crowe era, for example, not all of them most of them were early 20th century as you say when the kkk was marching down pennsylvania avenue. Paul is his speech enough for trump at this stage . I think youre going to have lots of people who will be doubters, you asked me what can he do and this is a major step and i think speaking to the monuments in a constructive way might bring healing and looking forward down the road, what you have to see from trump is an effort to say you know what, this is a part of my political base, okay, i understand it but you know what, we dont need that political base, you heard that from the chair of the rnc this week and you heard that from mitch mcconnell, we dont want it. Paul all right, juan williams, thank you for being here. President trumps ties with the Business Community showing ties of strain amid the charlottesville fallout, can a republican president succeed boost. Its about moving forward, not back. Its looking up, not down. Its being in motion. In body, in spirit, in the now. Boost® high protein its intelligent nutrition with 15 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. For when you need a little extra. 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So you think its a matter of are you talking here, kim there is violence on the left as well as the right. But that was not the time to do it. As you said, this had been finished. All hes done is reopened an entirely new news cycle, lost support of the Business Community, forced members of his own party to distance from him. He could have put this behind him and he didnt. James, i think it comes down to part ego and pride. He doesnt like being criticized. He thinks he was right. And he doesnt like having people say, you need to read this, and i think he chaffed. And i think he reopened old wounds and i think kim makes a fair point, but its an inadequate statement by the president of the United States. You have to speak clearly on issues like this. Its a shame. Were looking at a video from that tuesday press conference. If he had stuck with the first 6 minutes, which was a wonderful description of the problem of not being able to build anything in this country because you cannot get projects permitted and get Environmental Impact statements done, etc. , it was a nice presentation. Nobody noticed. And probably bothered by how its focused on one side. He did err saying there was very fine people on both sides. I think the very fine people that support monuments for artistic reasons did not show up to the klan protest. The statement about people on both sides, it was a half thought. It was half developed. Lets think back. Barack obama had a problem similar to this. Reverend wright said very extreme things about white people, off the charts. And obama was associated with him. After he got in trouble on that issue, he pulled back and said, i have to give a major speech on my position on race in america and he delivered that speech and it was a i have strong speech. If it was believable, beyond the point. It got him back on track politically. Possibly donald trump needs to do that now. The point is, if you are president , you cannot make thoughts off the top of your head about a subject as volatile and explosive as race in america. Its a nowin situation. Well, thats where it just to note for the record, where it differed from president obama, because it was an offthe h. I. V. Off of the top of the head remark, because obama had gone to reverend wrights church for years. This is not Donald Trumps base. His base doesnt like being government, doesnt like big business. If he wants to build a governing coalition, there are some natural allies. A lot of these business folks were always uncomfortable on this panel. They were kind of smiling awkwardly, didnt like the trade and immigration agenda, but liked the tax reform and deregulation. But the fact that they were there and willing to participate gets to governing. You need to broaden your coalition. You were elected to 44 approval and the goal is to get to 50 , not 34 . Its damaging to trump. Some people say, down with big business. Its not part of his base. You may not note the fortune 5 hundred ceos, but you need a broader coalition than the 25 that love you to death. And by the way, if your top agenda, priority, is tax reform, you do need the fortune 500 ceos and the rest of the Business Community. Once merck resigned, it was inevitable that the other ceos would follow because of the pressure of the media and trump kitti critics. President trump has given them a club to put on the pressure to those that say, how do you justify going along with his agenda, his priorities. They cannot afford that right now because republicans need to be unified because they dont have a lot of extra votes. With president mounting on republicans, leaders are setting their sights on tax reform when they return from august break. Could a bill reach President Trumps death . Well discuss next. 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