You promised me and thanksgiving. I remember that sean turkey fryer and pin on the way. F laura you promised pelosi a freezer that cost 12,000 . Sean no, they are 24,000 each shes got two of them full of designer creams laura you are sean this is my mask. Take it off. Laura they are yelling at me that ive got to go. Sean go do your show. Great shows this week. Youve been great. Spader thanks so much. Im Laura Ingraham and this is the ingraham angle from washington. The effects of sunlight and humidity during todays White House Briefing, so tonight you are going to hear from an expert with another similar novation that could get us back to work. Simple uv light, and or light, an important discussion in moments. Governor andrew cuomo has become a Media Favorite due to his coronavirus response, but does he really deserve it . Former new york city mayor Rudy Giuliani with his take. I wanted to do this segment for so long, but theyve taken International Heat for resisting a mandatory shut and locked do down. Ac but what have the actual results being and are the people they are happier because its more of a voluntary deal there . Wea are going to speak to a journalist inside the country. But first my thoughts at the end of day 38, american shut down. Remember when trump said this . They heat, generally speaking, kills this kind of virus, so thatll be a good thing. Laura and he got creamed for it one thing the president is saying that by april if the warm weather comes, this all may just magically go away or miraculously go away. You heard from the cdc and fda officials, they are not confident that warm weather is going to rid the world of this. Health officials around the world the graham President Trump has a new plan, wait for them or weather. Laura the snark and then today. The virus dies the quickest under these direct conditions. S. Look at the aerosol and you breathe it, you put it in a room thats 35 degrees 20 humidity, low humidity, it lasts halfway through the bottom our parade you get outside, it cuts it down to a minute and a half. Laura i like them. Atliked him the moment he started speaking. Great news for all of you being cooped up indoors, is it a complete change, of course, no. Its good news. The power of fresh air and sunshine. We all instinctively know this. Its good for our physical and mental health, its pretty obvious. In this new covid19 time warp we are all living in, for the president s enemies, and the good for america is actually bad news. Is it safe to make people go outside in the heat considering so many people are dying of spores. The new headline, trump asks people to go outside, the same group. People want to get information and guidance and want to know what to do. They dont want rumors. Im the president and you are a fake news. Im here to present ideas because we want ideas to get rid of this thing and if heat is good and sunlight is good, thats a great thing as far as im concerned. Laura if you listen long enough to democratic governors and their poodles in the press they say, you will realize that there really is no good news in this covid era. None developments positive enough to get us to think of the science and data just to and reopened in the stanceo that really want to open any time soon. Now think about it, on easter sunday, we knew that new Yorks Hospital system, although stretched in a few places, wouldve not be overwhelmed. Whwe also knew that Governor Cuomos claims or assistance that they would need 40,000 ventilators, was off by at least a factor of six. The collapse of our Health Care System was the entire justification of this national shutdown. Speak up if we dont flatten the curve, how concerned are you . If you have a really massive increase in cases, there is no country or anybody in the world thats going to be perfectly prepared. Thats the reason why we want to blunt that curve. If you let the curve get up there for, the entire society is going to get hit. We knew that hospitals were not going to break under covid. Military hospital ships are largely empty. Emergency hospital tents barely utilized. No one who has needed an icu bed has been denied one. No one whos needed a ventilator has been denied one. This should be celebrated. The Trump Administration should get credit for these achievements. We achieve these very important goals in a very challenging time. The curve was flattened. But thats not good enough. Now they tell us that we cant go back to our old life until almost a new bureaucracy is created to save us. We have to put together a tracing army. This is gonna be be a massive undertaking. The good news is that mayor michaelee bloomberg has volunteered to help us develop and implement a tracing company. Laura fantastic bloomberg is iner charge . The guy who does not think chinas president xi is a dictator . Im going to be shocked, and i hope i am surprised, but ill be shocked if new york truly opens up. Like the old new york before the election. You dont think so . Thats the way i see things going. Hope im wrong. I hope i am wrong. Although 26 million americans are now out of work, the president s top medicalle advisors sole focus, you cant even really blame them, their focus is the virus. Today, the top guy to shade on the testing issue. The media pick this up and then they threw it at trumps face. Dr. Fauci said that the u. S. Is not in a situation where he can say that where we want to bg in regards to Testing Capacity, said we need much more Testing Capacity as well as tests. Ha dr. Fauci says we just arent there i dontti agree. If he said that, i dont agree. Laura good i love that. R because if we wait for dr. Faucis seal of approval to reopen america, we may not have in america to reopen. At least not one we recognize. I have my own testing proposal. If you want to hear it . Lets Start Testing the data and theories that have been shifting ever since this virus began. First, its very confusing. First masks didnt help, now they are required in a lot of states, they do help . First we were told that millions and millions of people could die and we were told the models that forecast millions and millions of people could die were banned. Then we were told the virus was far more lethal than the flu. That was terrifying now we know its likely to be closer to may be a really aggressive flu season. Courtesy of the antibias jottings on both the east and west coast, we see the virus was circulating for probably a lot longer than we thought. That means more people were exposed to it and many of those had in the community to it. Speak of what weve shown so far is the statewide number is 13. 9 tested positive for having the antibodies. It means these are people who were infected and who developed the antibodies fight the infection. If the infection rate is 13. 9 , that would mean. 45 death rate. That too is better news than we thought and we heardth originally about this virus. It certainly though does not mean that we need to test 300 plus million americans that dr. Birx reference the other day. If we need to test 300 plus million americans to create a new certificate community for work andve travel that some are actually proposing. The bottom line is this. Most americans desperately want to get past this shutdown. Others want to prolong it, if you can believe it or not, for political reasons. Or maybe to extract a few more policy concessions. The more damage we sustain, the more likely and radical restructuring of america will follow. Ea its a damocles sword hanging over our heads right now. The less likely it is will recover anytime soon and the more american lives will be lost to things like depression, suicide, addiction, and domestic abuse. And of course, the less likely it is that trump will win reelection. Does anyone honestly think that the Biden Campaign actually want this country to open up anytime soon . I mean, they obviously prefer him in fewer missteps, fewer gaps. Most of the time. We are here in the basement of my home which has been turned into a television studio. Not very familiar with. Clear at that time the president had no sense in science, no sense of responsibility. And i just really worried me that. Laura where you off too,y joe . If we dont get this common role and again, that man could become the president of the United States. That is far more terrifying than any coronavirus. And those are my thoughts at the end of day 38, america in shutdown. My next guest is one of the first doctors to promote another potential treatment as a tool to fight the coronavirus. Uv light. He wrote this piece in the daily caller last week that social distancing and staying home is Like Fighting an air war without an air force. Only bomb shelters. If we want like to get back to normal, wet should start installing ultraviolet light fixtures in public spaces today. Joining me now is dr. Bruce davidson, pulmonary physician and member of hhss Advisory Council for the elimination of tuberculosis. I know uv light has been utilized to sanitize surgical settings and even planes, but critics im guessing saying its too harmful to use around people . Are they right . No, they are wrong. Uv light has been used for decades. Upper room, germicidal, low dose uv light is quite safe. We installed it in our tv clinic in philadelphia during the 1993 epidemic of drug resistant tb. Cdc recommended it. Updated the recommendations,. 05. Experts have used it and installed it in african clinicst so that we really turned it up to do it safely. Dose is everything, laurel. Anything at too high dose, but low dose uv is quite safe. Laura there are a lot of critics are out there and its only fair to hear from them. Lets watch. Now hes making dangerous claims about uv light. Uv lamp is not going to protect you from covid19. Dont want people to think this is another miracle cure. The president amplified the statements that are without evidence and again im sure people that go out now and try to figure out how they can buy a uv light. Laura this came up in a White House Briefing and a reporter went back for a second time basically, are you encouraging, mr. President , people to go outside with a band abandon basically, go out there and flout the current rules . Im paraphrasing. The president said its just information, we are trying to give information to the people. Using the snark and the scott thing in those comments we played bit no one is saying its a cure all, but what are they not understanding what you have discovered . Well, medicine is about detail. If someone is diabetic, we dont say take insulin. We say take rent insulin at a certain dose at a certain hour. Uv light has been as i mentioned refined over the years. Its been tested in a laboratory, it kills airborne coronavirus is as i wrote in the daily caller article. Kills them in seven seconds. Used in upper room low dose improper spaces. Laura explained that, doctor. Upper room. If you go in a store, although sweden is open, well talk about it a little later, a lot of the stores are empty even though they dont have any restrictions because people are afraid. They are so afraid of this vir virus, what would happen ifn you go into a story, lets say you had this technology, what would happen with the lights being installed above, how does that work . I gave the example of a Bar Restaurant or waiting room thats 40 feet by 80 feet, 8foot tall high ceilings. By two fixtures, they look like fluorescent lights for 175 each, space them. You put ceiling fans, cheap ones that pulled them up slowly, you have them shine in across the upper part of the room. You install them for a seven and a half, 8 feet up. You need to do certain things to spare the people below. But its that simple and it needs to be monitored. It needs to be part of buildingi codes like sprinkler symptoms. Laura we have to go, but we are looking for information and solutions that are scalable and understandable and safe. It seems like there are a lot of new dell my people out there who want to take no for an answer. They never want to take yes for an answer. A lot of people feel like the country is dying day by day if we dont get this thing open and confident again. I just think its fascinating to have you come on. Thank you for joining us tonight. You bet. Have thank you for having me. Laura we may not be able to and the lock down completely but can we at least be outdoors . Sunlight, sunshine, fresh air. A new study looking at 318 different covid outbreaks i in china found that only one of them occurred outdoors. And only involved two people. Here to respond is dr. Ben carson, hud secretary and brilliant. We love dr. Carson. What could more results like this mean for reopened in america . People are thinking they have to stay shuttered inside, dr. Carson, and watch netflix and wait for the government to send a check and everything is going to be okay. You are probably not surprised by the study, i would imagine. Im not surprised at all. Weve always known that sunshine and fresh air is good for you. And that just confirms it. And of course, there was at the press conference today, talked about the findings in that heat and sunlight and humidity were the things that kill the virus. You kind of think of it logically, you take a teaspoon or sock and you put it in a small container of water, it becomes very salty. You put it in a lake, and hardly makes a difference. Thats whatat its like when you go outside and you have things floating around. You have the ability to disperse them rightly. I just find the people who dont understand that to be a little bit strange. Laura you put it very mildly. Thats very charitable. There does seem to be an effort to discount any positive development, anything even if a drug is used by d. C. , turkey, ukraine, every Major Hospital like hydroxychloroquine, thats ridiculous. I got doctors from ucla today messaging, i cant go on camera, but this is what weve been using since early march because its worked in a number. Its unbelievable thats how we make progress as human beings, being able to go out and explore and find out, you know, using our brains to do things in a logical, sensible, and safeway. But we just dont sit there and wait. Thats what some people seem to be advocating. Thats absolutely the wrong way to do it. There are so many things that have been worked on right now, so many trials that are going on and we should be really thankful that we have an fda and an administration thats willing to explore. For that reason, if this comes back again in the fall, we are going to have a lot more things to fight it with. Thats why we have to continue to work. Laura dr. Carson, i do want to ask you about that because i have a lot of moms in my circle who have young kids. And a lot of moms, they are just they are frantically worried their kids are not going to go back to school in fall. I dont know what to tell them. I dont know what to say. I dont know if d. C. , maryland, virginia, at the rate they are going, i dont know whats going to happen, but a lot of people are very concerned about the daily damage thats happening to their kids into this economy, and to good Small Business owners regardless of how manyt government checks that they are able to stand, people want to get back to work, dr. Carson. I dont blame people for people wanting to get back to work. Its just that weve got do it safely. And how its been outlined with a phased approach is the right way to do it because we can observe andd make sure things ae going in the direction that we want it to an increase in increase until we get it to full steam ahead. Thats the way logical people do things. They dont go around creating hysteria. Laura dr. Carson, are you worried that it seems like the goalposts keep shifting . We had to shut down the save the medical system, the medical system was saved. We have the shutdown to make sure that we didnt lose people that they didnt get ventilators, but people didnt get on ventilators and we were able to say people. The Trump Administration did an amazing job. The goalposts is that an army of tracers and trackers are needed, 300,000 people. Every time we achieve a metric, we go to the next metric. Hopefully those of us who are logical will learn from these things and will conduct ourselves in a different way and make different recommendations. A lot hasnt been learned through all this and thats what weve really got to take away from this, and weve got to take a look at some of the positive aspects as avoid the negative aspects. We got so many people who just want to criticize no matter what happens. Why not use some of the intellect to help find solutions . Wouldnt that make more sense . Laura getting to it. Dr. Carson, thank you so much for coming on tonight. You too, laura. Laura one constant in the Media Coverage is Governor Cuomo is doing just an incredible job. Thats the consensus. What do the facts say . Im going to show you. Former mayor Rudy Giuliani will respond next. Staying connected your way is easier than ever. Youre just a tap away from personalized support on xfinity. Com. Get faster internet speeds with a click. Order xfi pods to your home in a snap. Or change your Xfinity Services with just a touch. All in one place. Youre only seconds away from all of that on xfinity. Com. Faster than a call. Easy as a tap. Now thats simple, easy, awesome. Laura over the past few laura over the past few weeks, new York Governor Andrew Cuomo has almost been raised up to demigod status. According to the new york times, he emerged as an authoritative voice on the crisis. Abc news said thisc was the moment the andrew cuomo has prepared for all his life. And there was more. You see a spectacular political leader emerging from this in f andrew cuomo, governig based on facts, data, science, and just telling it like it is. Republicans count me, they look at formal and they say, god said, there a lever. Reminded people that they may have come along as much as i have my whole life. Laura i love that one. What are the actual facts. I said this on the show, i do admire the governors really blunt, no nonsense approach to fighting fors the people of the state. Thats what governors are supposed to do. I appreciate his willingness to put politics aside. He came, he met with the pre