Ken starr and john with answers in moments. Our 2020 clown car segment. Should illegals receive Free Health Care and old biden comments on immigration that might surprise you. And harvard cans a dean to appease their students. And a congresswoman sparks another israel controversy. First trump, the clean up man. Thats the focus of tonights angle. On friday after trade talks broke town, President Trump raised tariffs on some chinese goods to 25 . Today the chinese retaliated. Threatening to hike tariffs on 5,000 u. S. Products. The media went into instant and predictable meltdown mode. He is building a wall of tariffs and you are paying for it. Weilding tariffs because it makes the president look tough. That only hurts american families. No one wants this. The chinese dont want this. The americans dont want this. It looks like this was a problem of Donald Trumps own making. Laura yeah, this whole china problem, just popped up in the last few years. Oh my god. President s since George Washington recognized the power and importance of tariffs to protect the american interest. Trump is wisely using tariffs to punish china for bad behavior. What is the alternative . With trump in the white house china knows the days of the exploiting the American Market are over talks broke down when the chinese reneged on the promise to change their laws requiring American Companies in china to do transfer Technology Trade secrets. Outrageous. Why did any u. S. President allow china to hold our companies at gunpoint . Stripping them of innovation to turn around and use American Engineering and knowhow to dominate the market themselves. I still remember this really well back in 2000 when bill clinton urging chinas admission into the World Trade Organization made all sorts of promises to the american people. This agreement is a good deal for america. Our products will gain better access to chinas market and every sector from agriculture to automobiles. Laura yeah that, worked out well. Lets break it down. Its complicated but you can get it. In 2018 u. S. Exports to china 179. 3billion. Chinese imports to the United States were 557. 9billion dollars. The trade deficit with china was 378. 6billion dollars. That was up 10 from 2017. A very good deal for china. Last year u. S. Imports from china were up 427 from 2001. That was preadmission to the World Trade Organization. China has been taking advantage of the United States for many, many years. I am not just talking about the obama administration. You can go back long before that. Its taking 600 billion dollars a year out of the United States. We cant let that happen. We for a strong position. Our economy has been powerful and theirs has not been. Laura trump is now the clean up man for president s and politicians who did nothing about china for decades. That just facilitated the rise of the communist regime. With all we know about how china operates, there is a question to ask where are we trading with them at all . They are a geopolitical adversary that intends to destroy freedom. They want to dominate. During the cold war we didnt do business with the soviet union and that was smart. I have a question where are all of the liberals who supposedly care about human rights . They protested apartheid in africa in the 1980s. We have christians held in internme internment camps in china. There is no freedom of thought or freedom of religion. You add to that their trade practices and their pledge. Stated pledge to dominate every major city by 2025. They are well on their way in space weaponry and artificial intelligence. This is a toxic mix for anyone who loves freedom. Trump properly assessed the threat to the entire world where china controls all fuel production. Think about national security. 90 of the worlds printed Circuit Boards are manufactured in asia and more than half in china. American weps depend on chinese parts and some may be infected with computer viruss that would allow to disable them. Our leaders seem to be waking up under trump. No country poses a broader, more severe intelligence collection threat than china. We understand the threat. The chinese are working to put their systems in networks across the world to steal your information. The president s instincts to go after china are the right thing to do. I think china has taken terrible advantage of america over the last decade and they dont play fair. Laura will the tariffs cause shortterm pain . Probably. But in a 20trillion dollars economy like our tariffs on 60billion dollars worth of goods can be absorbed. Its better to absorb short term pain than chinas domination of our industry. Trump offered this way out earlier today. If they dont want to pay tariffs, make it here or buy it from another country that is a nontariff country. Whether you go to vietnam or others you can do that. Laura word to the wise. Trump has a prudent approach to a problem that has been ignored for decades. Now its time to do something about it. Thats the angle. Joining me now marty davis and rick, president and ceo of the American Apparel and footwear situation. Marte, you said trump is intelligent and right on trade issues. A lot of big american ceos tonight disagree with you. I did say that and believe that to be the case. A lot of the ceos, many are dealing with individual Company Issues that are important to them. Especially in the bubble market sector. As it relates to the longterm interests of our government and our country, President Trump is 100 right. I think he showed great courage. He said 3 or 4 administrations and the congress swept this under the rug for 20 years and prior to 2000 when they went into the wtl, so he and his team have done a tremendous job. They understand it. They will deal with it. And have dealt with it well. Laura rick, you make apparel and sneakers. A very big company. You are very upset tonight by the escalation in this ongoing negotiation with china. Tell us from your perspective why we should continue business as usual with what we know china is doing on trade. Well, laura, first opening. I dont agree with everything you said. Laura bring it on. Take up the temperature. Lets fight this out tonight. Marty, i know about the history of your company. Thats fine too. Heres the problem. We give the president a lot of credit for bringing this subject up. He talked about it. He talked about it when he was candidate trump in january. There was discussion in the first republican debate. Laura why are you surprised . All of these people are surprised trump is doing what he said he was going to do. Obama said he would be tough on china. Bush promised the world and said china would become freer and all of these doors would be open. American Companies Going into china. The numbers dont lie. We have a 380billion dollars up 10 with china. How is that fair . I know its good for you company make cheap stuff in china and bring it back to the United States. I get it. For the average American Company doing business here, they have to turn overtheir intellectual property and they are off to the races. It doesnt work exactly that way. Lets be candid about this. We for a difficult situation. Tariffs used surgically can be a good thing. Used on a mass scale they bottom weapons of mass destruction. This could destroy our economy. We are not arguing laura we have a 20trillion dollars economy. Marty, i have heard that tariffs will destroy the u. S. Economy for the last 3 years. What are the chances of an inflation raging through our economy . If you are saying this will destroy the economy, we have to see signs of inflation. No economist i read sees inflation. I think the answer to it and it kinds of the same old rhetoric. First, china comes at our market and hijacks american capitalism with the keenness of a government rundown by a political dictatorship. They dont play in our structure, but they harvest the fruits of our structure. They are aggressive and predatory. This is not new. The Clinton Administration trade people after clinton orchestrated a proposal with china, their people pointed out what could happen. There was a great article in 2000 that laid out what could and probable would happen in the wto. Bush sustained it. Its not political. Its policy. Congress got it wrong. Over half of them. They allowed china to come into the United States and work by their rules. Laura rick, the people who say this is not the way to go. Okay i say to them gives your blueprint. We had obama for 8 years and things got worse and worse in stealing our intellectual property and the dumping of state sponsored industry. How do we right this . Obama could not do it. It got worse under bush. President bush tryed it in 2002. The steel tariff didnt work. Laura we didnt stick with it long enough. We tried washing machines. Thats not working. Laura thats not the case. We have some growth. The growth is terrific. Right now it costs 817,000 dollars per employee. Laura what is the answer . Do you want to keep doing business . The business as its been going . You are fine to keep on the same track . Look, heres the issue, laura. The ambassador and President Trump steered away from the american consumer. As of tonight at 5 oclock, they have gone after us in a big way with with the last round of tariffs. We oer are on this list ande will get hammered. Laura what about the country . Now, now laura what about america . This is america. Laura so this is good for freedom, really . In the first decade they were in the wto, we lost 5 to 6 Million Manufacturing jobs. The consumer suffers under that a heck of a lot more than this transition back to a free mark. Laura we will see what happens with inflation. All of the predictions with doom and gloom, we have to see inflation or those predictions are false. My next guest said the obsession over russia allowed china to fly under the radar. China has been doing this near criminal behavior for a while. Companies want to produce stuff cheaper in asia. They dont want anyone to tinker with the way its been. What happens if the dynamic doesnt change . What is the alternative for america . Well, your second guest said we should not take chemotherapy when we have cancer because it can be unpleasant. It is. It has sideeffects. We tried everything. In the beginning we were told if we overlooked copyright infringements, they would get rich and be westernized and it would be no problem. Then we were told the deficits are not that bad for us and surpluses are not that good for them. They disagreed obviously. Then we were told they would help out in iran and north korea. None of that turned out to be true. Donald trump came back. He is doing something that is normal. Sticking up for american interests. Everything has been so abnormal that being normal is abnormal. Laura our guests didnt have an answer. The answer is what we tried before did not work. Biden sounded off about the trump tariffs in a Campaign Stop in new hampshire. Lets watch. The president has done nothing but increase the tariffs, the debt and the trade deficit. Chinas greatest violation is the way they steal our intellectual property. Make it quid pro quo. Hes gone about it the wrong way. Laura peter posted out in 20 20 2013 joe biden flew to china and ink a deal. Does biden have a china problem . Yes, he does. Remember Senate Feinstein in california her chauffeur was a chinese agent for 20 years and her husband has business interest in china. Now people say we have to have a quid pro quo. If they have a tariff on us, we will have a tariff on them. Its a holistic attitude by this communist dictatorship. They push our allies in asia around. If you dont step up now, you wont be able to do. It final thing, we have twice the gdp that china does with onethird of the population. The biggest military, the Biggest Energy producer and this idea we are weak or will lose is absurd. Laura we will throw away our future because of china and 3 billion of soybeans. Its not to say soybeans are not important. Unless we get this right, its all over anyway. I dont get this whole thing with the soybeans and the sneakers. Trump is doing longterm thinking. Victor, thank you very much. Breaking news, bill barr said game on. His appointment of an u. S. Attorney to look into the surveillance of the trump team shows he wont rest until we get to the bottom of this. Ken starr and john are here to break it down next. Its the 1 multivitamin uniquely designed for men and women. One serving, once a day. One a day. And done. 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Attorney john durham will investigate the origins of the russia investigation. Durham is an inspired choice. He investigated Law Enforcement corruption and destruction of cia videotapes. Ken starr and former Deputy Assistant attorney general john hue. Ken, will durham look at . He will get to the bottom of this. Durham was a brilliant choice by bill barr. It was timely. We are waiting for the Inspector General report. Now we have the most respected prosecutor in the United States who served so brilliantly including assignments during the obama administration. He is above politics. You cant talk about he is an angry republican. He was confirmed by every member of the senate who voted. Why . Because of his record. We have an honest cop on the beat. I am pleased that bill barr said lets have the respect from the Inspector General. Lets have john durham take a look as well. Great timing. And remember waiting in the wings is Lindsey Graham who said i want to get to the bottom of this as well. We will find out. Laura john, for the democrats to have done what they did last week, moving on contempt against bill barr. Did they think that would cower bill barr and he would be dissuaded from what he said he was going to do, which was take a look at this spying . Will they try to smear durham given his professionalism and integrity and a wide ranging experience he has on government corruption issues . If i were the democrats i would be quite worried. The reason why i am appointing a u. S. Attorney, attorney general barr is saying he thinks its possible that criminal violations occurred in the start of the investigation into the trump russian collusion. Judge barr said there is already an Inspector General investigation that will come to a conclusion. Thats just to reform things. You would not go with a u. S. Attorney like durham unless the attorney general thinks something criminal might have happened, that people at the fbi or the Justice Department were acting out of motives and were not just dubed by the russian. If you are a democrat i think you would be worried to see the appointment of a career prosecutor like this. Laura what they said about barr last week was reprehensible. Among the people trashing barr was jim comey who worked with barr. This is what he said last week. He is an accomplished and very smart person. He had nothing to lose in taking this job but his reputation. But i think he lost most of his reputation with the way he conducted himself. Laura lost most of his reputation. Who might feel that early summer heat tonight but jim comey . Its so unfair. Its unfortunate. Its unfair not just to bill barr but to the department of justice which he is leading. Bill barr is deeply respected by the career people in the Justice Department who calls at this time way he sees it. Thats what hes been doing throughout this process. I regret what jim comey said and i disagree with it. I hope that bill barr will continue to call them the way he sees them and be the honest person he is and dont bend to the pressures of washington, d. C. Laura john, how high could this go . How far could this investigation go . There was a lot riding on who won the presidency. Obama wanted to hillary to win and we had the whole deal with her server. We dont know where this could go. Congress cant do the investigation that a u. S. Attorney is trained to do, correct . Actually someone who worked on fisa applications i could tell you how high it could go. Under the fisa law the attorney general has to approve the fisa application. If the steele dossier which was completely made up was used as a basis for a fisa application, you have somebody high up in the fbi had to improve that and someone high up in the Justice Department had to approve and the attorney general has to approve that. It appears that the fbi tried to infiltrate the trump campaign. The attorney general guidelines only allow that in very, very rare circumstances. I assume the attorney general and maybe the fbi director comey all had to approve it. All of their decisions should be looked at. Some people are going to be in a lot of trouble. Lying to a federal court under oath is pe