overwhelmed by the radical chic in their own party. they seem to have an anti-semitism problem. r. kelly speaks out an expletive new interview claiming he's not -- he's not the victim. dr. drew pinsky will analyze. raymond arroyo on why will smith isn't black enough and want a new focus group will tell us about the future of the democratic party. but first, the democrats big border lie. that's the focus of ten nights angle. homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen went to capitol hill to share a dose of something called reality with congress. >> we face a crisis, a real, serious, sustained crisis of our borders. we have tens of thousands of illegal aliens arriving at our doorstep every month. we have drugs, criminals, and violence spilling into our country every week. illegal immigration is simply spiraling out of control. >> laura: let's break it down to the cold, hard facts. in the month of february, 76,000 illegal aliens were apprehended at the border. that's just the ones apprehended. a 30% increase from the previous month apprehensions. from the year before, it's even worse. >> this is an 80% increase over the same time last year. and i report today they are forecasting the problem will get even worse this spring as the weather warms up. >> laura: could be getting worse? we could be looking, yes, at nearly 1 million illegals crossing our border if the trends continue. if these numbers hold, every four months, we will import the equivalent of the population of richmond, virginia, or baton rouge, louisiana, into the united states. and this isn't a national emergency? let's face it. most democrats know that this is a crisis. the sheer volume of crossers is overwhelming our facilities. liberals blame trump? when a migrant doesn't see a doctor immediately. as with their embrace of infanticide and reparations, medicare for all, democrats have gone far far left on immigration. then now, they are in effect for open borders. >> there are other options. ankle bracelets. other options to incarcerating and holding everybody by the thousands. there are programs that will enable people to go into our communities and to be able to be tracked in our communities. >> laura: what is that? they already put ankle break bracelets on a lot of the illegal immigrants and they team off. terrifying. i bet she doesn't understand the basic facts of immigration. while we are creating these brand-new plans to hold little immigrants accountable and track them, let's not forget who is footing the bill here. guess what the cost is? $82,000 per year per illegal immigrant in the united states. and then of course the children they have and the children are citizens. democrats prefer to focus on noncitizens. their treatment, their medical care, and their race. >> you wanted to separate children and their families and you want to do it with compassion? you have no feeling, no compassion, no empathy. >> white babies would not be treated the way these babies of color are being treated, madam secretary. this is about color. we have opened our doors, your tired, your poor, huddled masses yearning to breathe free. we have our photo of people of color. >> laura: very dramatic when he whispers. the democrats stick to one, may be two notes and they are always off key. >> for the record, madam secretary, are we still using cages for children? >> sir, we don't use cages for children. in the border facilities event two, they were not made to detain children. to my knowledge, they never purposely put a child in the cage. >> purposely or whatever, are we putting children in cages of today? >> children are processed at the border facility stations that you've been at. >> i have seen the cages. i want you to admit that the cages exist. >> sir, they are not cages. >> laura: well, you know what that is? on the screen right there. that's a so-called cage that the congressman was referring to but it's kind of a fencing thing, , and enclosure for sure. it was used by the obama administration to detain illegal miners during their processing until they could be placed with sponsors. where was the democrat outrage when obama was using the same fencing facilities that liberal do-gooders now deplore and make a big deal about it in a hearing to get on shows like this. well, instead of focusing on the surge at the border and the lack of facilities to house the people, democrats are throwing sand and throwing down the race card. it's all they know these days. when the cdp commissioner testified to the senate judiciary committee that walls and barriers in key hot spots along the border had an immediate impact in reducing the crossings, senator senator blumenthal didn't want to hear any of it. >> border crossings are still at a historic low compared to other times in our nations history. >> no, senator, they are not. we are on pace for over 700,000 crossings this year. that is closer to historic highs and lows. >> laura: the commissioner is 100% right. over 60% of the total apprehensions along the border are now illegal family units and unaccompanied alien minors. those under the age of 18. new dhs figures find those apprehensions of illegal family units have surged by 338% but no emergency here, no crisis. the apprehensions of unaccompanied children are 54%. that's not dangerous for them, right? no emergency, no crisis. how about this? >> because of the increasing violence, at i.c.e., when we have families with children, we have to give every girl a pregnancy test over 10. this is not a safe journey. >> laura: girls are being abused, raped, and in some cases traffic as part of these caravans and it's despicable what's happening to these young people. congress needs to get its head out of the sand and stop this madness once and for all. if someone crosses the border illegally with rare exception, they should be turned back immediately. family units or people posing as family units would not make this dangerous trek once word spread in their home country. congress should pass this law. if you want to apply for asylum, that's fine. but you should do so in the safety of your home country or, as is beginning to happen now, once you're in the united states and you declare, you should be sent to mexico until your case comes up for hearing. we have a backlog right now of 800,000 immigration cases. the current system today is obvious. everybody knows this. democrats knows this. it incentivizes human trafficking, the abusive kids, and more legal crossings. any democrat or any republican who refuses to act now are the ones who are truly lacking in the feeling and the compassion and the empathy not only for the illegal immigrant but for the american people we are supposed to be representing. that's the angle. house democrats aren't doing anything about the crash at the border. they are too busy grappling with the growing radicalism within their own ranks. now house democrats are focused on watering down a resolution condemning anti-semitism and not even mentioning congresswoman ilhan omar by name when she is no one this all should be really all about. fox's peter doocy caught up with her or at least tried to earlier today. >> congresswoman omar, it seems like there's confusion among your colleagues. are you anti-semitic? that's my only question. would you support the resolution condemning anti-semitism and other forms of bigotry? >> laura: she has pretty chatty on twitter but suddenly the cat has got her tongue. those are easy questions to answer, congresswoman omar. what are you afraid of? joining me now, congressman sean duffy. congressman, this anti-semitic problem. we are going to get to the border issue and a second because it's a full-blown crisis. have you addressed this anti-semitic problem within the democrat ranks within your caucus, and what's happening with nancy pelosi? she is caught. >> she's losing control. you have to realize nancy pelosi recognizes they have an anti-semitic problem in the democrat party. she says i'm going to bring out a resolution to show that we are not anti-semitic. and there's complete pandemonium inside. the democrat caucus today, and they have to actually pull the resolution to say -- >> laura: [laughs] you can't even have a resolution. condemning anti-semitism because the troika? presley, omar, and tlaib and aoc, those four standing together? >> why don't we say we are not anti-all kinds of things. they show how radical the democrat party has become in some of the leaders of the party, you know this, our good friends with louis farrakhan was that i'm not an anti-semite. i'm anti-termite. this is the viewpoint of this party. it's completely off the rails and i think, i would say it's funny but it's not funny. this is a real problem we have in history and today in this party. i think nancy pelosi, if she had -- she would bring the resolution up and call these folks out and say let's have a vote. let's see where you stand on anti-semitism. >> laura: from the reporting about the meeting, closed-door meeting, there were loud voices, and basically sounds like they were shouting at a big argument about this because the freshman, the newcomers, they feel like this is a targeting of a muslim woman. all these congressmen and congresswomen targeting a muslim woman because she criticized a pack or because she doesn't like everything israel does. >> that's what they are trying to make it into but the deal is this was a conversation about, do we want to condemn anti-semitism? anti-semitism in the democrat party and you saw a real push back because i think there's a lot of democrats inside the caucus who didn't want to take a vote on the resolution which really exposes the true feelings of democrats and the radical wing of the democrat party and what they -- how they see israel and the jewish community. >> laura: pelosi is freaking out. she can't lose the excitement in the energy of this new incoming freshmen. we are going to get into this new focus group that was done which shows us a lot about where the power and the energy is. turning out people to vote. they are worried about turning people off, they not? she's worried about that, pelosi. >> the problem is you have to win the middle of america to win elections. most americans condemn anti-semitism and so the fact that you're going to put a resolution out and you actually have to pull it. >> laura: it was announced. it was going to be voted on tomorrow. >> going to be tomorrow. until the food fight happened. >> laura: i want to move on to what's happening on the immigration issue. fox viewers are very, very focused on this. i think americans when they really understand the sheer volume of border crossers, there is light, how is this happening? entire cities, like richman, that population is being brought into the united states, allowed into the united states every three or four months. >> i live in wausau, wisconsin. 40,000 people. two wausau, wisconsin,s a month coming into america. the clips you played, i find it fascinating democrats are trying to say we don't want to put kids in cages and this is a race -- but the bottom line is i thought what nielsen said it was really important. they are giving pregnancy tests to girls as young as 10 years old because they know that women who come, young girls become other dangerous journey, they are raped, sexually assaulted. if you care about kids, set up a policy that doesn't incentivize the cartels and the parents to bring kids on a dangerous journey where they are sexually assaulted. if you care about kids, don't bring them. >> laura: they are making a huge, huge mistake with what they are doing because they know -- do you not agree with me? they know it's a crisis. >> absolutely. they say we don't want barriers. we don't want walls. we want foods and technology. we have a new wisconsin governor, tony evers. governor walker, former governor, sent troops to the southern border to give more support, more boots on the ground. tony evers pulls her boots off the ground. while bill barriers, won't send boots and technology. radical governor of wisconsin. >> laura: democrats are open borders, yes or no. >> absolutely. >> laura: they have to be. their responses were ludicrous. if obama had these fencing things to hold people for processing, what do they want kids to be thrown out on the street when they come here? what are you supposed to do? they are trying to find sponsors, kids and place them in sponsor's homes. what you do? i don't know what else you could possibly do. obama found that dilemma and they do now the problem with it. >> no complaints about obama but trump uses the same facilities may go after him. >> laura: race and... >> that's why we are winning suburban women. they want border security and safety. >> laura: safety for americans and safety for these kids brought on this journey. thank you, commerce men. back to the controversy with congressman omar. last week, saying jews can't be trusted because they have a split allegiance with israel. >> political influence in this country that says it's okay for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country. >> laura: joining me now is brooke goldstein, human rights lawyer and founder and executive director of the law fair project. it was thomas a arab american news. how is that not anti-semitic? how do you defend them? >> do know how many times i have heard and my community has heard of dual loyalty here in our community? that muslims cannot be trusted? how many times we have been called, go back to where you came from, to your homeland. no one said -- >> laura: who said that? >> no one said spoke for our rights. >> laura: usama, you you are equating what omar said, a sitting member of congress with some knocked on the internet or something someone said? >> it's not a knot. >> laura: people say terrible things and it should be. >> not on the internet, not on the congress, members of the republican party. they are close, analogy to the nazis. that's what they are. >> laura: we have established, we have established that because there is anti-muslim bias which i have no doubt there is. >> there is anti-jewish bias too. >> laura: i want to understand where you're coming from. you are saying because there is anti-muslim bias, that what omar is saying about jewish dual loyalty you should get a pass? >> no, i don't -- we should start the debate. there should be a debate. we should not stifle debate in america. like we talk about the saudis, the iranians, no one says this is anti-muslim. they are a muslim nation. when we talk about israel, we should not be equating this to judaism. judaism has nothing to do with israel. israel is a occupying palestinians and the palestinian people and we should be debating about -- >> laura: well, that's not what she's doing. let's let brooke to get a to speak. if that's what the debate is, that's a legitimate debate to have, and i think we have those debates a lot, especially on college campuses because i've been to some of them about what the role and the peace process to be, who stole what from home. that's fine. i have a problem with the analogies of the jews and money and the jews want the money. it's all about the benjamins. >> i don't think that's what she said. i don't think this is what she said. >> laura: give it a rest. give it a rest. brooke didn't interrupt you so let her speak and then you can speak. brooke, i have a problem with how this is going down because it is stereotypical. i don't think we should be engaged, as much as possible, and stereotyping. >> writes, and i think we have to step back and take a look at the big picture here. the level of anti-semitism that's being tolerated by the democratic party right now i think has risen to a level of a national emergency. we have a foreign relations committee which is responsible for defining and executing and shaping u.s. foreign policy. we have someone sitting on that committee who is a racist whose views are more aligned with islamic jihad then they are with the u.s. constitution. we have democratic members of government who are campaigning with people like linda sarsour, connected to the palestinian front for the liberation of palestine, designated terrorist group and now we have a democratic party that's been hijacked to the extent that it cannot pass a resolution condemning anti-semitism without being forced to water it down and make it meaningless. could you imagine if they wanted to pass a resolution condemning racism against african-americans and the democratics said were not going to pass it in less the same resolution -- >> laura: to usama's point, can this reach a point where you are stifling debate? that's what some are concerned about. you want to have an actual debate on points and issues. >> actually what's happening, republicans are using this -- >> foreign policy is not an excuse to turn around and accuse jews of dual loyalty. very often -- >> that's not what she said. >> i am just criticizing israel. >> you are -- you are putting words in her mouth. that's not what she said. >> awakening everyone to the evils of the jewish state. that something you here in the sermon. >> you should stop putting words in her mouth. >> laura: osama, when she made the initial statement about it's all about the benjamins, she put the emoji paid >> she did not say jews have dual loyalty. she did not say that. she said some members in the congress, some members in the congress have dual loyalty. >> where is her loyalty? >> can i make a statement? >> her loyalty. >> the republican party is using anti-semitism in order to blackmail the democrats, and that should not happen. you should not allow it. republicans should not allow -- >> laura: osama, nancy pelosi, and downed it's all about the benjamins comments. if she part of the conspiracy? so she's part of the conspiracy, the jewish conspiracy? headed toward the same territory that omar -- >> i don't believe there is a jewish conspiracy. i believe there is a pro-israeli conspiracy. 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(laughing) call today. comcast business. beyond fast. >> laura: singer r. kelly is speaking out for the first time since being arrested and charged on ten counts of felony aggravated sexual abuse. of young girls. he's been accused of everything from child pornography to running a cult in the past 25 years but kelly maintains his innocent that he is the real victim. >> i didn't do this stuff. this is not me. i'm fighting for my leap life. y'all are killing me with this. [screaming] >> robert. >> y'all trying to kill me! you are killing me! some just don't want to believe it's true. you don't want to believe it. >> laura: joining me not exclusively, an old friend, dr. drew pinsky, an addiction specialist and doctor to the stars. dr. drew, what do you make of that interview? he's obviously extremely emotional, explosive. i was worried about gayle king for a moment there. >> yeah, it's good to see you, laura, by the way. i have to tell you this is a lot of celebrities the demand scrutinized lately and this is the first time i've been framed. i'm fearful this guy could hurt himself. he really is, his back is against the wall. he's financially and very serious trouble. he couldn't afford his bail. he couldn't afford child support. today he was arrested on this. he can't have access to his children. he's being accused of very serious crimes. he is in big trouble, and he is in desperate straits. i'm actually worried about this guy. >> laura: well, doesn't seem to some extent, can you tell, it's difficult. it almost seems like it's an ongoing reality show drama. the standing up, hitting his chest, it seems -- it seems choreographed a little bit. i'm not an expert. you are. >> what you are looking at is your thinking to yourself, i think he doffed protest too much. it's too much, it's excessive. we don't know. we can't know for sure. we are looking at a lot of celebrities with a new lens. i feel like we have all woken up from the slumber of the 70s when anything goes. look at some of the lyrics from music of that era, they are talking about 14-year-old half the time. all of a sudden, we have begun to scrutinize these people that we have idolized merely because of their music or their appearance on television or movies, and it's been seductive and it's ridiculous. we are looking at things very realistically. >> laura: he talked about what the parents of the girls, the alleged victims, their role in all of this. let's watch. >> what's your relationship with her? >> right now? i am seeing her. she's 21. i'm seeing her. >> she's 21. did you start seeing her at 17? >> absolutely not. >> did you have sex with her when she was 17? >> absolutely not. absolutely not, although her parents wanted me to. >> laura: again, dr. drew. i mean, could that happen? i guess it good. >> you must not of seen the michael jackson "leaving neverland" documentary. whether or not those allegations are true or not, you see how for somebody to be seduced, to to seduce the young person, you have to seduce an entire family. we elevate people with fame to such a degree, we are easily seduced by it and it's possible. i don't know. we just don't know what has actually gone on. a couple things that jumped out at me about his interview that i've out were interesting. one is he compartmentalized a lot. he talked about r. kelly versus robert. my understanding is he had some very serious trauma himself, that some people who are traumatized think. compartmentalize themselves and their emotions and that sometimes is how they carry out things that are not good. these compartmentalized part is disavowed, that's not me. i'm really robert. they can do some awful stuff and be a good person at the same time. that's one thing that jumped out at me in this particular interview. there seemed to be a good deal of compartmentalization. the other thing that i see celebrities do all the time, the name they use out in the world, r. kelly versus robert, it's not just compartmentalization. the thing you know of as the celebrity, they distance themselves from it as though it's a cartoon character, so when people criticize that celebrity r. kelly, the it doet get to me, robert. >> laura: i want to get your thoughts, you mentioned the issue with michael jackson and hbo is out with a new documentary about mj called "leaving neverland." it details years for superstar allegedly abused two young boys. let's watch. >> there's no thoughts on this is wrong or anything like that. he told me if they ever found out what we were doing, he and i would go to jail. for the rest of our lives. >> laura: dr. drew, why is this coming out now? i mean, it was -- he was on trial. he won, there were settlements. he's dead. what's going on here? >> we don't know what the allegations, we don't know if they are true or not but the documentary shows the grooming process, precisely how it happens. if you saw oprah's interview after the "leaving neverland" i can park, she about it. how this is really important for people to understand. it is something people are drawn into. it's not painful and it's not an attack. it's a grooming process. by the same token, because they loved michael jackson, they wanted to protect them, they had all these ambivalent feelings that when they really woke up to what he had been doing to them, there was a flood of emotions and then there was a desire to talk about it. the theory here, if these allegations are true, they finally got enough distance. in both men's' case, it was the fact that they are children that they started to look at the child and go oh, my god, something did -- somebody did something to me when i was young and it was unbelievable and the emotional flood broke through. someone chose to tell the story, whether it's true or not. >> laura: he's not around to defend himself. none of us knows if it's true or false. the difficulty. >> i think we are waking up from a slumber. i really do. i believe we are waking up from a slumber from the '70s. all the years i was on "love line," i was saying there were horrible things going on and we were accepting it. if you look at the pictures of michael jackson running around of the kids, you go oh, my god. we were all groomed into excepting that. w. mack of history where a lot of things were acceptable that were not acceptable. >> laura: i think a lot of things are still acceptable -- i disagree. i think there's a lot of stuff pushing the envelope in family our tv. that's all out the window. >> i agree. we are waking up. >> laura: i think the envelope is pushed. >> you are correct. i don't disagree through it all but there is stuff we are waking up to as though we have been in some kind of weird slumber. look at the lyrics of songs from the '70s and think about what these rock stars were doing with young children. people are like oh, they are rock stars. what are we supposed to do? we are waking up. we do michael jackson responded to some of these allegations in an interview on "60 minutes" in 2009 with ed bradley. let's watch. >> if i would hurt a child, i would slit my wrists. i would never hurt a child. >> do you still think that it's acceptable to share your bed with children? >> of course. of course. why not? >> laura: he went on to say as long as it's platonic. >> no, no, no, no. nothing okay about it. i don't care who the 30-year-old man is. i don't care who he is. i don't care if half of his brain to she was gone, no, no, no. that's not okay. you watch the documentary, kids talk about how they would go to toy stories and load up with baskets full of toys. he would not let that happen as a parent. your job is to teach kids how to effectively get in the world, in the world to be a very frustrating place. you don't get what you want all the time. that very -- just going to the toy stars. >> laura: where were the parents? >> they were seduced. >> laura: seduced by the fame. dr. drew, great to see you. great to have you on. up next, will smith facing backlash for, get this, not being black enough for a new role. wait till you see how a cnn panel reacted to a new democrat star? 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[laughs] i loved it. >> lin-manuel miranda wouldn't have been able to play that rol role. >> laura: you keep going down this road. >> we should be judged by the quality of our performances, not by the color of our skin. >> laura: cnn this week convened a panel of voters who voted for hillary clinton. when they were asked about democratic upstart aoc, the panel went wild. >> i love her. >> wow. >> what a woman. >> amazing. >> she is the candidate of the future. it's because she has the democratic party nervous. she personifies where we expected things to go. >> laura: where we expect things to go. >> what ever ms. cortes' social media skills, these voters are captivated by her image. one of them called are smart and intelligent. listen to this. >> if we work our butts off to make sure we take back all three chambers of congress, rather, all three chambers of governmen government. the president cedes the senate and the house. >> i think she met the -- >> laura: branches, chambers. >> they are wrapped up in her social media presence. >> laura: what does it tell you about branding? >> it's everything. >> laura: you always say republicans are woefully bad at storytelling even on the border issue today. kristin nielsen has the dramatic numbers of the border. she is presenting the facts about the way you present them is also important, yes? might have kind of set that up. >> as you can tell from our ashes, and you look like you did a drive-by. >> the priest did a drive-by on me. >> i got the pastor's revenge. the biggest center in the world. people giving up different things for lunch. some people suggesting people give up plastic. plastic bags. i don't know why that would be. this is about subduing the flash and conforming your will to god. i don't know how giving up a plastic bag is going to get you there. >> laura: i'm not against plastic. you know i go to the beach and i pick up plastic. >> are you against floss? do you floss your teeth? >> laura: i do. the priest today at mass said it's not about you. i'm giving out. it's about your relationship with god. and what you do after lent. >> i'm not going to tell you what i'm giving up. i am giving up watching those r. kelly interviews. is this my camera? is that my camera? do i look stupid to you? >> laura: they will blame me for -- coat gayle handled that well. >> she did. >> laura: thanks so much. hillary clinton gets fact-checked on her racist allegations, the culture of victims and the socialism rising. very special guest, renowned economist tom sowell is here next. ♪ [ sighing ] ♪ oh my momma she gave me ♪ these feathered breaths ♪ ♪ oh my momma check in from afar with remote access. and have professional monitoring backing you up with xfinity home. demo in an xfinity store, call, or go online today. >> laura: hillary clinton seems to think she's not running in 2020 but she is running with the race card. >> i was the first person who ran for president without the protections of the voting rights act and i will tell you it makes a really big difference. it made a difference in wisconsin where the best studies that have been done said somewhere between 40 and 80,000 people were turned away from thr of their skin. >> laura: guess what. "the washington post" gave her four pinocchios for that blatant lie. 80,000 people turned away from polls? joining me now, renowned economist, old friend tom sowell, senior fellow at the hoover institution, author of the phenomenal book "discrimination in disparities," now out in a revised and enlarged edition, tom, thanks for being here. why is hillary saying that? i think she knows it's not true. so why? >> because she thinks it will get her some votes. that's the reason politicians say a lot of things and are not true. >> laura: hillary clinton, so many others are are now talking about reparations. trump is a racist. it's race, race, race, immigration policy is racist. the race word is a constant. it's like abortion and race in today's democrat party. >> it is, and i have a feeling that many americans would just as soon not hear any more about race. there are people for whom this is their ticket to whatever racket they are running, including the political racket. it's tragic. what's tragic is there so many people out there who simply respond to words rather than ask themselves, is what this person says true? how can i check it and so on. >> laura: do you think that with the jussie smollett case in chicago and now we have this r. kelly guy who was accused of -- r. kelly is not focusing on race but the smollett case became one about race. it was novels like there were certain people out there who were disappointed when it seems like this thing with a big hoax. they wanted this to be a racial incident, racial hate crime reinforcing the stereotypes that this is what's wrong with society today. the overriding problem in society today is one of race. tom. >> well, you know, it's like in football. they are to run that play until someone finds a way to stop it. as long as it pays off, they're going to keep doing it. what's painful to me is how few people there are today who bother to check out the facts. in many cases, just the smallest effort of checking out the facts would cost so many of these things to fall apart. we have a whole history of this, going back to a woman in the 19-something and then another case. any number of these things. as long as they keep succeeding politically, they will continue to run that play. >> laura: do you think president trump would do well to make, like monthly trips to underserved, more underprivileged areas or to traditionally black colleges, communities of color, where he can just talk about wise policies are working on why the economy is growing opportunities, jobs, greater employment et cetera. would you recommend that he do that? >> i don't think the venue matters that much. there has to be some thoughtful notions about how free markets and other kinds of activities that are different from one are normally heard, how those things impact. i don't see any sign of that of any significance unfortunately from the republicans. i never cease to be amazed at how many opportunities they let go by. right now for example, democrats around the country are lighting up to stop charter schools from expanding, trying to cut back on them. many of them are the very schools that are most successful, they are the ones they are zeroing in on, places like success academy or chip schools. the democrats, and understand they have to do that because they are beholden to the teachers unions. but why the republicans don't say anything about it, that's what baffles me. >> laura: truly pro-choice initiatives that actually help individuals and so i'm just focusing on blocks of individuals. dr. sowell, aoc, alexandria ocasio-cortez, she has spoken a lot about socialism and being a democrat socialist. she is a young person, 28 years old. she is representing a decent chunk of the democrat party today. i want to play something for you and have you react. let's watch. >> when millennials talk about concepts like democratic socialism, we are not talking about these kind of red scare bogeyman. we are talking about single-payer health care. we are talking about tuition free public colleges and universities. we are talking about a living wage. we are talking about guaranteed basic levels of dignity. >> laura: it sounds good to a lot of young people, and the focus group from cnn we just alluded to, they seem very excited about these concepts. what are republicans not doing? >> the republicans are not saying anything that i've heard. of course all these things sound wonderful. it's just that we now have more than half a century of knowledg knowledge, a track record of these kinds of ideas being put into practice in countries around the world and failing time and time again. not merely failing but making things worse than they were before. venezuela is the classic case, and yet during the whole period when people are starving in venezuela under socialism, the young people are, right out of our colleges, are flocking to bernie sanders because they are judging by his words and how wonderful it sounds and not by what happens when you try to put those notions into practice. as has been tried again, countries in europe, asia, africa. >> laura: failed everywhere. [laughs] the worst repeat failed experiment we've ever seen. dr. tom sowell, it is so great to see you tonight. come back soon. love your book. so many of my friends are texting me saying tell them we are huge fans. thank you so much. we will be right back with tonight's last bite. >> teacherr science papers. >> tech vo: this teacher always puts her students first. >> student: i did mine on volcanoes. >> teacher: you did?! oh, i can't wait to read it. >> tech vo: so when she had auto glass damage... she chose safelite. with safelite, she could see exactly when we'd be there. >> teacher: you must be pascal. >> tech: yes ma'am. >> tech vo: saving her time... 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