it's crazy. >> laura: we bubble wrap our children, hannity. it's crazy. >> sean: helicopter parents. >> laura: great show tonight. i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle"ts from washington. what a show we have for you. the case of hillary clinton's private server. this will not go away. now there are -- this doesn't surprise me in the slightest -- that china was tracking her emails in real-time. peter schweizer, best person wea could have to break it down is here tonight. the primary voters hit the polls in three states tonight and at this hour, polls have closed in arizona, where candidates from both parties are vying for the chance to succeed retiring republican senator jeff flake. it's too early for fox news toor call a winner on both sides but we'll have a live report on the ground at all the pivotal races for this november's midterms and plus we'll talk to of tonight'se big winners we already know and the president is also taking aim at some tech giants who he believes and many of us do are unfairly targeting unfairly targeting conservatives. that will be a spirited debate later in the hour. but first, the press, prosecutors, and partisans. their incestuous relationship. that is the focus of tonight's "angle." last month, cnn ran with a bombshell of a story. >> sources with knowledge tell myself and karl that michael cohen claimed thatdg then-candidate donald trump knew in advance of the june 2016 meeting in trump tower in which russians were expected to offer his campaign dirt on hillary clinton. crucially, these sources tell us that cohen is willing to make that assertion to the special counsel, robert mueller. >> laura: why is chris cuomo's head so much bigger than the other two heads? [laughs] i don't know why i focus on that. well, the accompanying articlele on their website revealed that "contacted by cnn, one of cohen's attorneys, lanny davis, declined to comment." huh. just a week ago, lanny davis, michael cohen's attorney, doubled down again on cnn. >> i think that the reporting of this story got mixed up in the course of a criminal investigation. we were not the source of this story. >> laura: okay. a little problem there. he was lying! lanny davis was actually the major source for the entire story. he was also the anonymous source that confirmed its other outlets. now this week he came clean telling "the washington post" that he is not certain the claim is accurate and that he could not independently verify it. and yesterday, he tells buzzfeed news that he regrets his whole role as an independent source in a subsequent denial of his involvement in the story. if you can follow that. davis merely saying he "made a mistake." but he actually didn't. lanny davis is an old clinton fixer who has been spinning information and using the press to do his bidding for decades. this was deliberate. and the folks at cnn were only too happy to join him in this misinformation charade. why?. because they have a common enemy: donald j. trump. so davis floats a malicious and salacious story to target a political adversary and the media gleefully disseminated. now cnn's bernstein delighted in this tale of trump's misdeeds because it fits the pathetic russian narrative that they havt been trying to substantiate for a year now. they used to call cnn, remember, the clinton news network in the day, with lanny davis as an unpaid contributor, it is more fitting than ever. forget 1998. it's back. this reminds me of the disgraced fbi director jim comey. we call him james "too tall" comey, who planted more storiesa than martha stewart has planted hydrangeas.es okay? comey passed his memos of classified conversations between himself and the president to a friend.we remember that memo to the file? and he did it for media consumption. >> i understood this to be my recollection recorded of my conversation with the president. as a private citizen, i felt free to share that. i felt it very important to get it out. >> why didn't you do give those to somebody yourself rather than get them through a third-party?o >> i was worried the media was camping at the end of the driveway at that point and i was going out of the town with my wife and i was worried it would be feeding seagulls at the beach. >> laura: i had forgotten he said that. so we are led to believe that he really doesn't like the press, comey, while he is throwing them life-sustaining chum to the seagulls.ta remember these greatest hits from the wikileaks podesta inbox? cnn's john harwood sent emails to hillary clinton. campaign chairman john podesta shamelessly sucking up to him offering campaign advice and praising the candidate. he was with her while he was covering the campaign. then there was juliette halpern at "the washington post." she dropped podesta a line to give him a heads up she was going to publish and she included a little preview, how helpful. and "the new york times"'s unbiased glenn thrush, he put is an appearance as well. he wrote to podesta a story ins progress to make sure "i'm not f'ing anything up." like lanny davis, podesta was a freelance editor for both "the washington post" and "the new york times." these are just a few examples of collusion that we know about only thanks to wikileaks. a but today we learned from congress and mark meadows the danger of this kind of politicization of the media and partisan story planting. he tweeted in part, "we've learned new information suggesting our suspicions are true. fbi doj have previously leaked info to the press and then used those same press stories as a separate source to justify fisas" -- foreign intelligence surveillance act -- and meadows then spoke to "america's newsroom" following closed door hearings with fbi officials. >> we know that some people at the department of justice and fbi actually gave information to the media, then the stories were reported, then they used those reports to justify further investigation. >> laura: it should be noted that the fbi tonight is pushing back hard on this story. a source clarified the agent testified that the fbi routinely uses media materials to corroborate their work product including fisa materials, but "never said directly that we utilize fbi leaks for fisas." boy, that was a carefully worded statement. got to parse that one. with partisans using the media to bait prosecutors or justify bogus investigations, don't we need to be more careful and ask more questions? i think america needs journalists that we can trust. but as it stands now, we not only have to worry about the objectivity of our news sources, we have to worry about their sources as well. and that is "the angle."d joining us now with reaction, "the examiner"'s washington correspondent, byron york. along with attorney and rnc committee woman harmeet dhillon. all right, byron. what do we need to know here? this has been a wild day. let's start with the lanny davis and cnn saga, which is both stunning on his part and i think we are kind of used to that from the clintons and the clintonon spokesman surrogates, but cnn? >> cnn's reaction is really baffling here. why they are sticking with the story. >> laura: the story being... >> their original story saying that michael cohen was prepared to tell robert mueller that donald trump knew about the trump tower meeting in advance. it was a huge, huge story. now "the new york post" had reported this. they went back, rereported it after davis confessed that hed had not told them the truth, and told the readers what was going on, so did "the washington post." what is going on with cnn? it seems to be that their position is a source gave us inaccurate information. we pass that onto you, the listener, but we told you what he said. now we found out that it's not true, but we stand by the story. it doesn't make any sense. you should do what "the post" did, the new york, and "washington post" did, which is go, rereport it, and tell the readers what happened. >> laura: harmeet, kellyanne conway was on with chris cuomo on cnn recently and it was this as unbelievable exchange where he was up on his high horse about morality and truth seeking and how hard cnn works and i want to play this for you now because in light of what we have discovered with this lanny davis phony sourcing, i think it is more important than ever to watch this. >> but i will tell you this now and i make it to you as a promise. all right? as you know, nobody works harder than we do to do this job. >> who, you? >> in this place, on my team, in this shop of cnn.an we work very hard to tell people what is true. >> a+ perfume malady. chris, let me just have a word about that. you are not like that most of the time. >> laura: harmeet, "you need to own the truth." what do you think about that? >> what's there to say? as a lawyer, i have to say i'mno temporarily happy to know that the lawyers are not the most despicable people here in the eyes of the public, i think, today based on these lies and their failure to admit what went on here. everybody who's a reporter -- i'm a former reporter before i became a lawyer -- occasionally a source will burn you, okay, you got to correct it and move on. it's part of their job and itt happens. to not own it i think is really showing that we all have to doubt the sincerity if that is the corporate attitude to grossly misleading the public. it is bad news to the public, a black eye to cnn, i think the public expects better of the viewers. >> laura: we wonder why the press's numbers are in the toilet. this comes after sunday's "meet the press" where chuck todd, i will play the sound bite, laid blame on this network for causing the problems for credibility. let's watch. >> i hate to say it, i know i'm sitting on a "meet the press" round table, but the truth of the matter is, 62% think the media is biased. if you look at the approval rating of donald trump -- >> the conservative echo chamber created that environment. it has been a tactic and a tool of the roger ailes created echo t'amber.il let's not pretend it's not anything other than that. >> laura: okay, i think the press's credibility is pretty low even before 20 years ago. >> can i say something about the larger agenda here? i mean, lanny davis is doing what he's doing, he's telling cnn what he's telling them for a reason. we seem to have a situation in which michael cohen, the client here, the president's former lawyer, is kind of jumping up and down and waving his hands at robert mueller saying, hey, notice me, notice me, i've got something. now we've never gotten a story out of the robert mueller -- g we've never found a story about this that mueller didn't know about six months ago. he's been way ahead of the reporting on this. we have to figure out that he has no particular interest in cohen right now because he farm his case out the prosecutors in new york. so you have to wonder, what are they doing here?er i don't really know the answer, but this lanny davis stuff did not just come out of nowhere. >> laura: bruce ohr, you've been doing reporting, the bruce ohr saga for months and months and months. what do we take from today's developments? >> the big question had been with bruce ohr, how high and how far did knowledge about the dossier go, the steele trump dossier go inside the fbi and inside the justice department. because we did not after christopher steele was terminated as a source because he was dying to get bad information about trump out to the public before the election, right? so he talked to the press, which was against the rules, so the fbi terminated him, and then they used bruce ohr as a go-between, so ohr would talk tn christopher steele and then he would go to the fbi and tell them what steele had told him. so i think what they learned today was who else was ohr briefing on this, who else was being kept on this? not just on the fbi but at the obama justice department. >> laura: doesn't he have an obligation, harmeet, to divulge his connections to the firm that was producing the dossier that then led to the fisa warrant and the surveilling of the trump campaign? i mean, isn't there some basic sense at the justice department that you have to reveal these types of obvious conflicts? i mean, he was promoting his wife, he was promoting her firmg and at the same time, added bonus, get the president, or get the candidate. >> he was creating demand for c his wife's consulting service, obvious conflict of interest, also a violation of the government's rules not to disclose that. more importantly for me as a civil libertarian, the fact that this was not disclosed to the fisa court is shocking and i think it's obstruction of justice, quite frankly. laura, i ran the numbers as ofra last year, 21 warrants had been denied by the fisa court out of over 40,000. that is 99.999, okay? l 99.999 are granted. >> laura: despicable. >> the people at the doj and fbi say, hey, don't worry about this, there are safeguards in place, not only do high levels of the fbi have to sign off but also, high levels of the doj have to sign off. it appears that no oversight was done and they didn't ask obvious questions about this. i think this does go higher.ab we don't know at this point in the testimony but there are a lot of questions that need to be asked. not just what happened to carter page, this seems to be a systematic issue with the doj and the fbi, and creating stories. >> laura: great segment, guys. former secretary of state hillary clinton's private email server was reportedly hacked by another foreign entity. that issue had been raised before but now it looks like we have more confirmation, it was a chinese-owned company. they inserted code that forwarded clinton's emails to them in real time. that, according to "the daily caller" news foundation. even worse, the fbi was reportedly warned about that by the intel community's inspector general but did nothing in response.at here with his reaction is investigative journalist peter schweizer. peter, this doesn't come as any surprise to any of us who had followed this issue. there was no security on this private email server.ar classified information clearly on it. what is your takeaway? apparently no russia but yes, china. >> yeah, laura, this is a huge story. i will tell you why. think about this for a second. if the story is true, and the reporter that broke the story is an excellent reporter. if the story is true, it means that the only set of all of hillary clinton's emails of secretary of state resides in beijing, china. because remember, she deleted 30,000 emails and never turned them over to the fbi. if you think about the steele dossier, the concern that was always raised about that fake dossier, that it would lead to a blackmail on donald trump, these emails would be a massive blackmail tool, they were personal emails, probably very sensitive, that is why they were deleted in the first place. you have the existing set of the other 30,000. this is a huge story, and the fact that this information was discovered, then turned over to the fbi, and the fbi counterintelligence office, including mr. peter strzok, apparently took no interest in it, is shocking. china is the big threat here. they are the rising power are challenging united states. russia is the declining power. if i were looking at an intelligence threat, the number one threat would be china, that is what this fbi director today is saying. t china is the one we are worried about. but there was no interest in this apparently by mr. stzrok and others. it's a shocking story. >> laura: peter, i think you reported on this at the time, i believe. when this email server wasr discovered, it also came out, i believe, that the person in charge of hillary's security on her system was told, we might've had some intrusion in the system, and kind of blew off the concern. i had to go back and get thehe actual language to get it verbatim. but that is reported, i guess the investigator, he said there was a concern raised, buts basically he was shot down. when he raise that concern. period. >> yes, that's exactly right. the service that was taking care of the servers raised this with the clinton people and it was dismissed. they didn't want attention focused on even the existence of the server. so the way they tried to cope with the server was pretending that the server wasn't there. this is a massive breach. look, we were told in the 2016 campaign that hillary clinton was the adult. she is the professional, she's the diplomat that knows how topl get things done and to do things in an orderly way. this was a massive failure. >> laura: she knows how to get things done to cover up for the clintons and the clinton foundation i guess. get things done for the american people, she got a lot of things done for china. i say thank god that hillary clinton wasn't elected given the fact that if the story is true, china has a treasure trove of information, which i don't think is just about her daughter's wedding or her grandkids or whatever her yoga class. i don't think the chinese care about the down dog and hillary. i think they are interested in some other issues. h >> [laughs] that is exactly right. the bottom line is, if you gave any counterintelligence official a choice between being concerned about a discredited dossier, being concerned that the president of the united states has 60,000 emails in the possession of an enemy power and you don't even know what is and 30,000 of them, i think they would view that is a much larger counterintelligence threat thanr anything that is being raised by the dossier. that is why this issue needs to be re-investigated and looked at. it's a counterintelligence issue and problem going forward. >> laura: jeff sessions should convene an investigation, a real, serious investigations, just into this issue alone, frankly. peter, great to have you on tonight. thank you so much. by the way, as i said earlier. it's election night for primary voters in florida and arizona. we've got live reports for you on the ground next and we all speak with congressman ron desantis, who just became the republican nominee for florida's governor. he got a surprising opponent this fall, we'll tell you about that next. this isn't just any moving day. this is moving day with the best in-home wifi experience and millions of wifi hotspots to help you stay connected. and this is moving day with reliable service appointments in a two-hour window so you're up and running in no time. show me decorating shows. this is staying connected with xfinity to make moving... simple. easy. awesome. stay connected while you move with the best wifi experience and two-hour appointment windows. click, call or visit a store today. >> laura: voters of the polls in primaries across three states but took a particular states will g >> laura: voters hit the polls in primaries across three states but two particular states will greatly impact novembers midterms. for more on that, we go to florida, ed henry standing by live in miami. ed? >> laura, great to see you. big developments here breaking this hour in florida. the governor's race is going to come down to a dramatic clash between a key ally of president trump, ron desantis, against a democrat backed socialist bernie sanders, andrew gillum. it's going to be interesting as we see the democratic party in swing states like this tilt even further left. on the republican side as i mentioned, ron desantis tonight easily beat the state's agriculture commissioner adam putnam, where the deciding factor, very clearly was the coattails of the president. the president a short time ago tweeting this out there about the race, "such a fantastic win" for a ron desantis and the people of the great state of florida, ron will be a fantastic governor. onto november."". that from the president. look at how dramatic, how pitvotal the president's support was. in mid-june polling had putnam beating ron desantis by 15 points, mid-june. june 22nd, the president tweeted an endorsement of desantis. by late july, he was up by 12 points. a 27-point swing. now tonight here, desantis running to replace retiringg republican governor rick scott, who easily beat -- easily won the g.o.p. nomination for a senate seat against incumbent bill nelson, they will set off in november, that is expected to be a tight race. i mentioned andrew gillum on the democratic side. he beat back a challenge from an more moderate candidate. he's the tallahassee mayor. he won after key endorsements from bernie sanders and after an infusion of $650,000 from liberals george soros and tom steyer, who's been pushing for impeachment for a long time. watch that. meanwhile, another important trump factor in arizona tonight, republican senator jeff flake retired because he is at odds with the trump agenda, unlikely that he would get reelected, he acided to retire.e.di meanwhile, another important trump factor in arizona tonight, republican senator jeff flake retired because he is at odds with the trump agenda, unlikely that he would get reelected, he decided to retire. he endorsed congresswoman martha mcsally.co she said she doesn't want the endorsement.t. she is competing with dr. kelli ward and sherrif arpaio over who is more pro-trump. the winner likely to facepp kyrtsen sinema in a pickup opportunity for democrats. interesting, we have not been able to call this race in arizona just yet. the polls just closed a short time ago, laura, but that race very significant as well. >> laura: ed, steyer and soros, huge infusion of money in florida, that i understand is going to be happening in other races, including in statewide initiatives in places like arizona, colorado, ohio, and beyond. so this is just the beginning of what we are seeing.hi >> it is. what could be significant is in a battleground like florida, which is typically tight, in presidential races and midterms, whether governor or this big senate race here, you have andrew gillum, who has been polled very far left because as you say, he's got tom steyer and george soros money behind him, he's a tallahassee mayor, a relatively unknown. this was a surprise win, a shocker really, and he beat back the daughter of bob graham, the former senator and governor, beat back the challenge fromom her, a more moderate democrat, m former congresswoman, someone who is seen middle-of-the-road, might've been a tougher challenger against ron desantis, now you have the party pulled to the left. it will be fascinating to see how it plays out in november. >> laura: ed, thank you sond much. joining me now is one of the men who just won one of these important races, congressman ron desantis is now the republicannt nominee for florida governor. he is here now in his first interview since his primary victory. congressman desantis,y. congratulations. you must be feeling pretty good tonight. >> yeah, laura, i remember you and i talking after we did the debate on fox news, and you areg like, "you are not going to be behind much longer after this," and sure enough, we really pulled ahead.ly we had the president come at the end of july with a huge event for us, and we just had unstoppable momentum. the good thing is, we are going to carry this all the way through november and post a strong victory so we can continue on florida's path to success and make it even better. >> laura: are you surprised that gillum wins on the democrae he'll be your challenger, endorsed by bernie sanders, and you just heard us talk about, soros and steyer both pitched in a total of about $650,000. it seemed to make a difference down the home stretch. so you are going to be running against a hard left former tallahassee mayor. >> he is the most liberal candidate that the democratic party has ever nominated in the state of florida by a country mile in a governor's race. he wants to abolish i.c.e., he wants a billion dollar tax increase, he wants a single-payer health care system in florida, which would bankrupt the state, i'm trying to make florida even better, he wants to make florida venezuela. but he also combines the far left ideology with managerial incompetence. as the mayor of tallahassee, his tenure has been absolutely disastrous. tallahassee is one of, if not the most crime-ridden city in all of florida, year after year, rising crime, he is embroiled in a lot of corruption scandals, this is not -- it's a guy who can't even run the city of tallahassee. there is no way florida voters can entrust him with our entire state. >> laura: now congressman desantis, in your jubilation and your celebration, you may have missed that alexandriaou ocasio-cortez tweeted out congratulations not to you but to your challenger, andrew gillum, saying, "the progressive movement is transforming the country and he proved that again tonight. gillum ran on medicare for all, legalizing marijuana, abolish i.c.e. and more. thank you, florida voters! on to november."gh i would wear that as a badge of honor tonight, congressman. >> we have people in florida who have fled socialist countries like cuba and venezuela. they don't want that imported into florida. we also have people who flee from left-wing policies in states like new york and connecticut and they don't want that imported into florida. i think we want to keep florida great, we want to keep it going in a good direction to going in the direction of an ocasio-cortez is just untenable and it will not happen in florida. >> laura: congressman, some of your critics will throw out this, they'll say, well, you won on trump's coattails. but you are short on your own policy initiatives on a statewide level. how do you answer your critics? >> that's not true at all. we have a solid vision for how to create high-paying jobs in florida. i've been very strong on our environmental problems and solving our water crisis that we have in different parts of our state and only one of the few people have stood up against some of these entrenched interests. laura, you know they were spending millions of dollars to stop me in the race but yet we've been very strong on illegal immigration, saying we need e-verify in florida, we can't have sanctuary cities, i've been somebody who's been a wholesale support are supporter of education reform, from parental choice to vocational training, to more civics education, so we've been talking about these key issues time and time again, and we will continue to do that and spread the message far and wide. >> laura: did you hear from putnam tonight? t did he give you a call? >> yeah, he's a class guy, he worked very hard, he was a tough competitor. h people say you won big but this guy was a huge organization, he raised a boatload of money, and he ran a tough race, tried to knock me around, that is politics, but he's supportive of where we are going. he knows we got to keep florida in republican hands and he will help me. that is how the things go. i would've supported him if he beat me but you got to move forward as a team. >> laura: absolutely. the president, i don't care what anybody -- he's very popular in florida.e the endorsement did help a lot but you also did a great job on the hot things. congressman, thank you so much. and big tech is once again showing their true colors when it comes to conservative speech online. president trump is now calling them out. that debate, don't miss it, ahead. ♪ a hotel can make or break a trip. and at expedia, we don't think you should be rushed into booking one. that's why we created expedia's add-on advantage. now after booking your flight, you unlock discounts on select hotels right until the day you leave. ♪ add-on advantage. discounted hotel rates when you add on to your trip. only when you book with expedia. ♪ >> laura: ♪ >> laura: it got hot today. president trump taking aim at big tech and their alleged bias against conservatives. the president first took to twitter singling out google for what he calls rigged news search results against him. he even went further this afternoon. >> i think google is really taking advantage of a lot of people and i think it's a very serious thing that it's a very serious charge. i think what google and what others are doing, if you look at what is going on at twitter, if you look at what is going on and facebook, they better be careful because you can't do that to people. >> laura: joining me now for reaction, former trump campaignk manager corey lewandowski and jason nichols, a democratic strategist. all right, jason, let's start with you. what about the president's thoughts here? a lot of conservatives that i talked to think, wait a second, my impressions on twitter are way down with no real clue as to why, search results seem to kind of speak to themselves when you put in "trump and news," it's all negative. what do you think? >> first of all, when we look at the search results on google, just like when you do a google scholar search, what you get are the sources that receive the most citations, the ones that are cited the most, the ones that actually have the most news bureaus. so this has nothing to do with politics. if he wants better stories, then create better news. it's what he -- >> laura: like consumer confidence at an 18 year high? >> 2500 kids beingtr traumatized, being separated, being accused in court under oath of committing a crime, a lot of things that he has done that actually show he doesn't have a whole lot of good news to talk about. >> laura: jason, the fact that 41% of americans now say the country is going in the right direction, the last year of obama, do you know where that number was? 20 to mid-twenties. the country sees things going the right way. they might not like everything that trumped weeds, but i want corey to get in on this. it is true that when conservatives say bias, biased, biased, you know, dorsey and sergey brin, all of these guys, they say it is just the way it is, this is the way the technology rolls. sometimes conservatives will get the short end of the stick and sometimes liberals will, too. everybody complains of a time, that is where we need to be. >> eric schmidt was a supporter. of the clinton campaign and that is perfectly fine for them to be able to do that, no one is questioning that. >> laura: doesn't mean he's biased though. >> dorsey has said that the company tends to be more-l left-leaning than conservative.w that is the way he wants to run his company. but what we have at google specifically is they fired one of their engineers and they said they did that because they were mistreating individuals who were conservatives there. that is what he was fired for. now he is suing google for his job back. >> laura: harmeet dhillon's client. >> the reason is, you can run a company anyway you want to but it is such a monopoly. between google and facebook, it reaches 1.8 billion people on a daily basis, these are massive numbers. and i'm not in favor of government overzealous regulation but you can't have a company that is going after people based on the conservative thought and shadow banning them or banning them in an unfair manner and we have to look at this because it's a problem that's only going to grow. >> laura: nra spokeswoman dana loesch spoke about what happened to her on twitter. let's watch. >> we have to deal with situations where you you have crazy people running amok on twitter and twitter having inconsistent applications of terms of service. and that is what this comes down to. i'm simply asking for these -- people like jack dorsey and mark zuckerberg and these individuals who own these platforms to maybe rein in their employees' biases and evenly anr consistently apply and enforcenl terms of service. >> laura: the thing that got her really upset as the tweet that has since been deleted about, well, if dana loesch has to have her children murdered before she'll understand, i guess that is what needs to happen. the individual, whatever his name is, has not been permanently banned from twitter. i guess he was temporarily banned.. that is the kind of stuff -- that is not political speech. that is -- that's terrifying actually. >> i agree. as somebody who comes on conservative media and gets death threats -- >> laura: and we love you coming on. i adore you.ve maybe even more than corey. >> thank you. those people sending me threats right now, i want you to know i'm not afraid of you and i'm not backing down. i want to tell you that i absolutely deplore that, i think she has an argument in terms of trying to get those people to be banned from those platforms. i think that twitter is a large universe and there are some things that twitter sometimes misses. but the idea that they arese targeting conservatives and i think what corey says, while it may have some validity that this person has a claim, it has nothing to do with the algorithr in which google works. that is not what this is about. this is one guy feeling that he was discriminated against at work.. >> laura, when you look at twitter, you look at what they did to candace owens, she took a tweet that was written originally by the op-ed writer of "the new york times" and she changed one word and that tweetd and all of a sudden, her account was suspended. not for doing anything other s than literally changing one word. she changed the word from "white" to "black," it was against a conservative african-american woman who was literally reposting something that was already posted. the original post was never considered derogatory or exculpatory or anything else for that person. as soon as candace owens put it out, she immediately was notified by twitter that her account had been suspended. i don't think that's right.te >> laura: do liberals complain about getting banned? >> i've never seen one get banned. >> laura: i always say, if the shoe was on the other foot -- i do this to myself, too. if the shoe were on the other foot, and it was a company this big and this powerful, run by the koch brothers or some other conservative group of people, and the left felt like their views were not -- it's an interesting conversation.le oh, this is just an algorithm. here the algorithm thing all the time., it doesn't seem to give me much comfort. close it out. >> i think that people on the left absolutely get banned from some of these --ra >> laura: who? some of the most horrible, hateful things about ivanka trump. i didn't see many things banned. they are all the same person to me. >> i think there is the difference between saying something vulgar and saying something that is threatening.er i think what was said about dana loesch, that was borderlinehr threats and i think that she has every right to complain about that. i think what we have seen -- i'm telling you, as someone who gets a lot of threats, probably getting them right now, i think that is despicable but i think that it needs to be applied on both sides and i think usually does. >> laura: great conversation, guys. an immigration controversy that doesn't get enough attention. visa overstays in the hundreds of thousands. details on that crisis in just a moment and later, the jacksonville shooter this past weekend shared some telling traits with other violente killers. a psychotherapist is here to tell us what they are. stay there. >> laura: okay, there might>> finally be a solution to one of the biggest problems plaguing u.s. immigration, which is visa overstays. they don't talk about it enough. in 2017, approximately 700,000 travelers to the united states overstayed their visas. that according to homeland security. but congressman steve king is introducing new legislation that would require nonimmigrants to post bond before visiting the united states.ig so would this help to finally get illegal immigration, these visa issues under control? joining us now with reaction, tom homan, former actor direct air of i.c.e, along with allen orr, immigration attorney. alle? >> this is a problem. not that big of a problem -- >> laura: wait a second. 700,000 -- allen, i adore you. you know that. 700,000 people is not a big problem? >> that is a reporting problem from the government. right now, the way that the government relates to people who leave through banned forces improperly recorded, and sometimes in students change their status, that is notnd properly reported. i don't really trust the facts -- >> laura: you don't trust the numbers from homeland security. >> there have been other reports from robert warren, who used to work for the government and also works for the center foror immigration studies, most of the studies saying this is an exaggeration, another way tora push more restrictive policies and limit immigration. >> laura: you don't think there really is any problem with these overstays? >> i think the overstays as an issue but i don't think bonds are a response. people who have the money to post bond would get a visa. money would not be an issue for them. >> laura: tom? >> first of all, i disagree with my friend. i think it is a huge problem. maybe a few years ago, i wouldn't trust the numbers. the recent methodology, about 90% accurate, talking about several hundred thousand dollars per year. bond is a good idea as long asyb it's high enough so it's a deterrent so they are not willing just to forfeit and stay illegally. also this legislation, criminalize those who over overstayed visas.. most of those who overstay visas come to the country and never leave it. those are just like illegal entry. if you criminalize it, that's another deterrence.ze >> laura: okay, five countries with overstay rates of over 30%. chad, djibouti, eritrea, liberia, and the solomon islands. so when folks from chad or these other countries come in, a pretty good chance they are not leaving. something has to be done. we know this is happening and yet it's like, stamp the visa, come on in and then they don't leave. i can't blame them for not leaving. no one's really hunting them down. >> this bond issue has been a law for decades, just trying to implement it, we've been asking them for years. i think equally, they need to be high enough where there will be more than what they could pay -- >> laura: how would it work? before they leave their country, their home country, they would post, let's say, $1,000, $5,000 -- what about allen's point of this is a class issue and people that have no money, they will --on >> allen, this is a sovereign country, we have a right to decide who can come in and out of the country, we have a right to maintain a legal immigration system. i can tell you, there are hundreds and thousands every year, you are right, the population is not a priority, hasn't been a priority. when i was acting director, iec made it a priority but we certainly don't have the resources, not when we are kicked out of jails, got to walk the streets looking for criminals.et by adding these bond requirements, make it a criminal act to overstay the visa, i think you would see a drastic change in oversight. >> laura: a lot of countries, allen, where you don't have to have a visa. they are called visa waiver countries. you have greece, hungary, and portugal have the highest over stays for countries where you don't need a visa at all. but we are categorizing, we don't with a high risk people are. greece, having a lot of problems, hungary, portugal, i guess people -- everyone wants to come to united states. but we have to be able to control this.. didn't the 9/11 commission say we should do fingerprint entry and exit? am i remembering this correctly? but we don't implement that.hi this is the 9/11 commission, a bipartisan group of experts who spent, what, years studying this after 9/11? why don't we have this? >> i think we do have entry-exit systems, they are just not modernized yet -- >> laura: modernized? after 9/11? >> it's the u.s. government and our systems are antiquated. remember reciprocity. if we start charging bonds to people that come here, bondste will be charged to u.s. citizens that go to those countries, and the students won't be able to go to the countries, so that is a limiting restriction. >> laura: if we are talking about losing a few backpackers in the summer, versus keeping our country and our integrity of our immigration secure and sound, i think we can lose a few backpackers. >> this has been an issue for years. addressing it the same way we address all of our other immigration problems, we modernize our immigration system. the problem is, if more people were able to stay here illegally, we wouldn't have the problem with over stays.gs things like ending tps, ending daca will only -- >> laura: you really don't want to put any limits. you only want limits on people who can come to the country on visas, you really want to know limits, correct? >> it's not about no limits. it's about appropriate limits. if we are able to absorb 700,000 people a year or whatever the numbers may be into our society and they are able to stay,in working at places come here productively, then something says -- >> laura: we have a list of how many -- >> we are the most more welcoming country in the world. >> laura: they are committing crimes here. we are out of time. c ahead, how the media's facts about gun violence while ignoring some things about the dangerous trends. that ahead. are you ready to take your wifi to the next level? then you need xfinity xfi. a more powerful way to stay connected. it gives you super fast speeds for all your devices, provides the most wifi coverage for your home, and lets you control your network with the xfi app. it's the 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things like video games addiction, and things like antidepressant addiction. joining me now is carole lieberman. dr. lieberman, there is no study saying that if you are on antidepressants, there is necessarily a causal relationship to going out andre shooting someone, but the list of the mass shooters and how many of them taking antidepressants, just some of them, david katz, jacksonville shooter we just mentioned, eric harris, columbine, james holmes, aurora, colorado, adam lanza, sandy hook, nikolas cruz, all of them are on some ssris drugs, antidepressants, what should we think?ti >> well, it is not really the antidepressants' fault. this is not a gun-control problem either. it's merely a video game control problem and access to good mental health treatments. with antidepressants, the problem is that instead of treating people who, if they need antidepressants, instead of seeing them every week for therapy, and monitoring their antidepressants, and the dose and so on, and if they need that or something else, that isn't happening.d the psychiatrists are giving people prescriptions and sending them away for months or two or three. that is the problem. it's not the antidepressants themselves. i will tell you what the problem is. there is a pattern here with all of the school shooters. david katz is just the latest one. and that is, first of all, there is some kind of mental illness. david katz seems like he might be on the autism spectrum. >> laura: look at him. >> depression certainly. if you look at -- all you have to do is look at him. >> laura: look at his eyes.is >> his high school yearbooks. >> laura: yes, something dead in their eyes, the eyes are the giveaway. >> d absolutely. in david's high school yearbook, i don't know if you saw that, it's the same eyes, the same depressed eyes, and so he was e born with some kind of predilection for some kind of mental illness but what really happened, and this is what happens in most of these families, broken families. now for david katz, his parents got divorced, when he was around 11. they went through a 10-year divorce and custody battle. >> laura: family breakdown, depression, we'll have you on radio and do this for, like, an hour because it's so big. thank you so much. we'll be right back. ♪ .. ♪ >> laura: that many discussion we had with dr. lieberman is extremely important and we are e but we'll stay on this, we'll do a longer segment this >> that discussion we had with doctor liebman is extremely important and sorry we didn't have more time but we will stay on this with a longer segment this week, next weekend on the radio so tune in tomorrow but we want to hear what you have to say about tonight's show so tweet me at ingram angle and the great shannon bream and the fox news at night team are up next. shannon: we begin with a fox news alert, results pouring in from primary elections in arizona, results from the races in florida, major upset leading to a big november showdown as a 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