Is he right . Class asked our guests. In houston tonight is horace cooper, a cochair of project 21. Ended washington at democratic strategist richard goodstein. Thank you so much, gentleman, for being here tonight. There are serious questions about how the fbi used this dossier. We have andrew mccabe, the former deputy director, going to retire, saying that he is not going to verify what was in the dossier but also sent a lot of it is unverified. Horace, what is your response to that . This is the problem. It appears that every single claim that was put forward in this matter is falling apart, and for the federal government to bring these claims forward and go forward with an investigation, even preliminarily, this is the kind of thin, if they went into a federal court, and ask a judge for permission, the judge would tell them, this is not sufficient to go forward with an investigation. This is ridiculous and if it werent for people like sara carter, i dont know how we would have found out the truth, since the Mainstream Media isnt doing its job. Katie shes an incredible reporter. Richard, what about that . There are serious questions about how this dossier was used. I think we need to take a step back and go through history a bed. When these allegations were being shopped around to the mainstream many reporters in the fall of 2016, many of them rejected the dossier out right because it was unsubstantiated. The new york times, cnn, a number of them. Then when buzzfeed published it, they were serious questions in the Journalism Community about whether that was the ethical thing to do. Are you concerned about this dossier being used by the fbi to target american citizens working on a Transition Team . You know, donald trump should thank his lucky stars for the fbi. He would not be president of the United States but for james comey insinuating himself in the campaign twice adverse to Hillary Clinton and never breathing a word of what the Intelligence Community knew, which was is that the russians were trying to help donald trump rates of its so the suggestion that the fbi was trying to be in favor of hillary, that is delusional, im sorry. Katie thought about the Text Messages going back and forth between a lead fbi attorney and the saying that we need an insurance policy in case President Trump gets elected . Ted cruz call donald trump amoral and a liar. Marco rubio called him a con artist. The notion that people were calling donald trump names was not unique to the fbi. Katie there is question as to whether they took action and whether the insurance policy was a russian investigation. Horace, there are questions about accountability here. The American People are wondering after eight years of the obama administration, using federal Government Agencies to go after political opponents, whether we will ever see anything happen . We have representative republican Francis Rooney calling for a purging of the fbi, we will listen to that and then well get your response. Im very concerned that the doj and the fbi, what do you want to call it deep state or whatcom are kind of off the rails commode you look at that strzok guy texting, you look at the ohr guy talking to the dossier, clinton Oppo Research people. Then this mccabe sky wife takes 16,000 from clinton related sources while she is running for state senator. I would like to see the directors of those agencies purged and say weve got a lot of great agents, a lot of great lawyers, those are the people that the American People should see end of work is being done all these people who are kind of the deep state. Katie horace, your response . Heres a fact. Sessions, the attorney general, needs to bring in the new fbi director, and he needs to say, im going to prepare a memorandum and it is a memorandum instructing the fbi that we are going to depoliticize investigations. In the wake of ted stevens phony prosecution, eric holder had to call and his prosecutors and the fbi, and redirect them on how to carry out their investigations. Something very similar needs to be done here. It is it pretty clear that this Investigative Team has gone off the rails pursuing political agendas rather than actually trying to uncover criminality. Katie richard, what about that question . If you look at Andrew Mccabes testimony, according to lawmakers who were in the room last week during his closeddoor testimony, they talk about how they moved away from collusion when it comes to looking at how the trump campaign. If that is the initial issue, and if democrats are concerned about democracy as they claim, why are they not concerned that this has gone so off the rails . For the following four reasons. The russians offered to help the trump campaign. Donald trump jr. Said, we love it, yes. The russians proceeded to help through wikileaks or donald trump, 100 times mentioned during the Campaign Wikileaks and we know the people very close to now President Trump said in advance of the Podesta Emails coming out, they were coming out. When did they come out . An hour after the access hollywood. All of that is smoke, katie. Do we know for sure whose fingerprints are on that . But as katie a year . How much time do you want . The dossier did not force Michael Flynn to plead guilty. The dossier did not force George Papadopoulos two plead guilty. The dossier is not what got Paul Manafort in the hot seat katie once again, did any of those guilty pleas or indictments have anything to do with pollution . They have nothing to do with collusion. In fact, everyone should know that the details of Michael Flynns conversations being put forward in the media was in fact a crime and there has been no investigation of that. If anything, Michael Flynn has pled guilty to had anything to do with collusion, we would have known it during the plea agreement. Nothing was like that that was said. And there is nothing about the Paul Manafort indictment that is in any way related to collusion. Nearly a year has gone by. We have seen nothing but an investigation that seems to be investigation for investigation sake. Katie richard, quick last word to you at then we got to go. Conclusion is in your face. If a crook that got stolen goods, says, would you like them, and you said, would you i will take a look at and the higherups said, lets see mores what donald trump and the president ial campaign said, russia, if you have more leaks, lets have them. Katie last time i checked, it was a Hillary Clinton campaign that paid for the dossier which is actually connected to russians. On that note, this is not going away as we know it. Happy new year to you guys, thank you so much for coming. Happy new year. Katie here is something we have been telling you about for weeks. Democrats will be turning to sexual Sexual Misconduct allegations to try to dump trump now that allegations of collusion with rush are going nowhere. But now the chatter and debate is intensifying by the day. Lets discuss this with the White House Correspondent for the end independent journal review. Thank you so much for being here. We appreciated. We have heard a lot of the last few weeks but President Trump potentially firing special counsel robert mueller. The white house is vehemently denying that claim. Why do we keep hearing about it . Why do we keep hearing about the white house going on this rampage . Look, i think a number of democrats sorry, katie, i have an echo in my ear democrats clearly i want to see if that is fixed for you. Katie little technical difficulties. I we fixed . Are you all right . Im good. Katie okay. Katie do need to question again . Lets change topics. Lets go to 2018 and how democrats will play this. Weve heard from the white house of the president has no goals of firing special counsel robert mueller, despite those claims we are hearing that he might, how is the white house reacting to that and what are you seeing on the ground going into 2018 in terms of the strategy . Katie, a lot of the democratic strategists that i talked to do not want to be pushing impeachment. And that is because when you look at the seats the democrats need to win in order to flip the senate, there are a lot of seats they need to all that are very red states. West virginia, missouri, north dakota, they all still a couple of seats, arizona, tennessee. And impeachment is not going to play there. The specter of impeachment isnt good. And independent voters wont work for that. They want to see democrats really trying to go for things like infrastructure and working with republicans on something, infrastructure chief among those. We know that impeachment will not play. Katie we are based in washington. We know that momentum is on the republican side. Is there pressure on the democrats to come with something to the table when it comes to big project like infrastructure . I do think infrastructure is the big thing. But the tax reform bill that just passed is still not very popular. Republicans obviously are going to be going on a tour of the country to try to sell tax reform and democrats have had the upper hand fair. It did past, there is going to be some momentum from republicans. But democrats want to keep that bill as unpopular and their messaging has been better for the past couple of months then republicans. But they want to keep pushing that message with the the amern people. Katie what about the counties, erin, the hundred plus counties that switch from barack obama blue to donald trump read in the last election . How are democrats targeting those voters and are they seizing on issues like the economy, where the momentum is on the republican side . Or are they going with more of the issues of Sexual Misconduct and the Mueller Investigation and the russia collusion allegations . I think the biggest message that you will see from democrats is that they will say that republicans havent kept their promise, simply that this tax reform bill will add to the deficit, at a trillion dollars to the deficit, and that means that the republicans just havent been truthful with what they have been trying to push on capitol hill. I think that is going to be a bigger message. Sexual misconduct will play in primaries, sure, it will be an animating cause for democrats with their progressive activists and with women, but i dont think that is going to be the biggest message of next year. Katie what about the numbers . The republicans have very little wiggle room when it comes to passing their agenda and the senate. Democrats have their eye sight of the Tennessee Senate race, they are going after arizona. How are voters feeling about 2018 and one of the big topics there . You know, katie, arizona i think is the biggest one. Tennessee i dont think at the end of the day will be in play as much. What you are seeing from a Democratic Congress woman who is formally progressive, she sort of moving into the middle, she is trying to cast yourself as as saying that she will be talking about donald trump and her senate race. She is trying to talk about tax reform and infrastructure, some of those Kitchen Table economic issues, thats obviously the big message of the year. Katie its going to be an interesting 2018, for sure. Im sure we will see you on the white house and on the road. Thank you so much, erin. I appreciate at. Thank you, katie. Katie another trump pater as californias governor who apparently learned nothing from kate steinle. We will tell you how jerry brown turned a christmas tradition turned it into an opportunity the reason i chose eharmony was you had to pay to be on there, and i felt like the people who were on there really value a relationship. For my family, we are three for three in our siblings for getting married. I thank eharmony for that. [narrator] stop waiting, start communicating for free today. Running a Small Business is demanding. And thats why Small Business owners need more. Like internet thats up to the challenge. The gigspeed network from comcast business gives you more. With speeds up to 20 times faster than the average. 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I think people have a lot of questions about how a pardon from a state governor for state crimes shields and emigrants with a felony from deportation, which is a federal responsibility. Well, because he pardoned the underlying offenses, which is about as effective as President Trump pardoning yosemite sam in arizona. You cant pardon somebody who didnt admit they have done something wrong. But bottom line, it doesnt matter. Weve got the resolve this issue if we are talking the difference of deporting somebody who is admitted to a criminal offense katie specifically to the phone dont know mike felony. People really have questions about why is it that the state governor can pardon these crimes. That is something governors do all the time. But how does that shield somebody from a deportation . It may or may not. It doesnt matter. Katie it does matter. Passing the state laws katie we are going to go for john cox. You are running for governor in california. Does it not matter . It matters. It matters, katie, as you said because the first job of any governor is to protect the people, and what jerry brown continues to do, mismanaging the state, and expose the people of california to more danger. You know, the rule of law is sacrosanct, katie. Its a thing that protect us, its the thing that makes us that we dont live in chaos and we donr of criminals roaming the streets. I am not saying that they are roaming the streets but my platform is to protect the people of the state. And you dont do that by running gambits around federal law, by pardoning people without a reasonable justification. Katie francisco, question for you francisco. Should the governor of california be making decisions for the people of his state when it comes to allowing felonies felons back out on the street, to get back at donald trump . Is that really the way he should be running the state . You are giving him the victory. He cannot pardon a federal it doesnt matter what he does on state law. He can pardon it doesnt matter. Katie can the federal government still depart this guy . Just because he pled guilty, this guy is running for governor against them, thats the best thing he can do . Katie francisco, i want your Legal Immigration attorney. I want you to answer your question. Can the federal government, through immigrations and customs enforcement, still depart this guide based on his felony weapons charges . Yes, absolutely. Katie john . Listen, katie, i may excuse me, may i respond . Katie john, go ahead go ahead. I am katie francisco, let john respond. John, go ahead. Excuse me, thank you, katie. Im a businessman, katie. Ive got to solve problems and ive also got to make sure the rules are enforced. What Governor Brown is doing this kind of action is sending a message to people, frankly, people who are already in prison and are wondering why they arent being pardon, as well. You know, he is sending a message that the rule of law doesnt matter. And the thing that separates us from a lot of countries around the world, katie, that are in chaos, that are not successful, is that in this country, we enforce the rule of law. This is why we are making california a sanctuary state iso unproductive. I am a businessman, i solve problems. We have to actually address the problem of ilLegal Immigration. Protection of our citizens. We are not going to do that as long as we have politicians come across politicians like jerry brown and frankly Governor Newsom katie back to you, francisco. How is it that states like california and cities, sanctuary cities, are still getting away with there is no such thing as sanctuary cities katie yes, there is. San francisco, california just is trying to be a sanctuary state. The federal government can take these folks write back right now. We are so intent you should tell francisco, you should tell that to the family of a young woman who was murdered in Northern California because the authorities there did not inform the federal authorities when they released a guy from prison, from custody katie okay. Im going to interject and ask francisco another question. We all know about that case, we are going to move onto another topic. Francisco, is this a good use of resources from the state government, to be using pardons to pardon immigrants who have felony records . The pardon does not matter. Lets get on katie but detailwise, why does it not matt