Involved in the investigations. I was never a part or had any knowledge of any criminal investigation into flynn while i was in office, period. Not one single time. Jesse biden trying to turn the tables on obamagate with an assist from the media. Heres what he said when asked about not pardoning President Trump after a hypothetical prosecution. Absolutely yes. I commit. Look, the attorney general of the United States is not the president s lawyer. Its the peoples lawyer. Its not something the president is entitled to do, to direct either a prosecution and or drop a case. Thats not the president s role, responsibility, and its a dereliction of his duty. Jesse all right, kennedy. You want to know why i know that they are feeling a little guilty about the unmasking . Its because when this story broke a few years ago, they denied it. They said theres no unmasking. Susan power says i didnt even do anything. And now they are saying oh, its repeat. Kennedy i think the shame is probably the best thing here. I dont have a problem with citizens of this country knowing what their government is doing behind closed doors. All this was so easily manufactured that everyone should take a moment to really consider what if this kind of power was turned on you and stop lying about it. Okay . We dont want this from any administration, but when john brennan comes out and talks about an abuse of power, you have to say what about the power you had as the director of the cia . What about when you are working with the fbi and the dni and org to accept these perjury traps for Michael Flynn. All of that is an abuse of power and then lying about on top of it, that is just offensive. Jesse juan, if there was nothing illegal about the phone call between flynn and the russian ambassador, why do you think obama and call me sent fbi officials into the white house . Juan you got so much there. My point would be that there were so many people who were alarmed by these intercepts of these conversations without knowing who was on the line. Thats why they asked for the unmasking and discovered that it was mike flynn. Again, they didnt know. They didnt know who was on it. Jesse how do you know that . How do you know they were alarmed by it . Juan that is the nature of it. Thats the reason that you request permission from the nsa saying on the basis of this content, im making a request to know thats exactly the procedure, jesse. Jesse the procedure. Its for knowledge. Not if youre alarmed by a phone call. Juan for knowledge, exactly right, so you can have some context and understand the extent of the threat to us as an american people. To your larger point, donald trump has yet to explain what this obamagate is about, other than to try to distractible from his failing handling of the pantin pandemicy marino bartiromo asked exactly what crime did obama commit . He went off about peter strzok and lisa page. Jesse you havent been listening to the president. As we have been listening to the president and talking about this obamagate thing on the show, it goes into the dirty dossier that they used and then fabricated the evidence to the judge. Goes to the criminal leak of mike flynn. The insertion of spies into a campaign. It goes to the set up of mike flynn. All of these things come together and when he says obamagate, you cant just dismiss it as a conspiracy theory. Dana i think when the president says youre going to see something new sorry, i have a little bit of an echo. The attorney general thats put in a position of i have to deliver on this some way. Now he has figured out a way to go to jensen, the u. S. Attorney in missouri. His credibility is not at all in question. Not at all. So he is the one who makes the recommendation along with career prosecutors that tell barr what they think and then bill barr takes the action that he does and thats been very methodical. One thing at that i think is pretty outrageous is that sullivan, the judge, wants to have additional people home outside the case come in and decide whether Michael Flynn should be charged perjury. That doesnt make any sense. You dont charge perjury through an extrajudicial process. You do it through the prosecutors. The prosecutors is that they want to drop it. That will probably happen sometime next week. Joe biden is not able to answer some of these questions for these not completely out there. He was very specific. He said i had no knowledge of the criminal investigation. He didnt talk about any knowledge about our counterintelligence investigation. Jesse he was very careful. As you mentioned a couple days ago, it is a sticky situation because if you say i had no idea what was going on, then you are totally clueless and he look like youre out of it but then if you say yeah, i knew that the president had i guess at least half a dozen counterintelligence investigations in the Trump Campaign officials, than that kind of looks bad too. Greg when joe claims he has no knowledge, i believe him. 100 . But this scandal is like a joint. Its got obamas fingerprints all over it. And it is so much fun. It reminds me when i was a kid watching big time wrestling in san mateo, california, and all the wrestlers would beat up on Pat Patterson and then at the end he would come back and he was flipped the script and beat everybody. Thats whats happening here with the russian story, the russian narrative, the script has been flipped and now its the media on their heels. Look, what drives me nuts, its weird to see so many people in the press depressed. They are depressed that a war hero wasnt imprisoned. I would think they would be relieved that such a patriotic American Hero was found innocent and now can live his life. But the really, really they are really, really pissed off that he triumphed against the set up. My original suggestion from two weeks ago, the best thing trump can do is appoint flynn to be head of the fbi. He has earned it and maybe that will clean house. Can you imagine what it does to the media . It will be worse for them than the pandemic. Jesse as a great idea. I had no idea that trump was just roper doping everyone. Up next, trump says america is back as the media trashes red states and gives blue states a total pass on reopening. Our he. And while theyre working to keep us safe, prudential is proud to provide over one Million Health care workers with benefits that help bring peace of mind in times like these. With benefits that help bring peace of mind i but what i do count on. Ts anis boost high protein. 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New yorks Governor Andrew Cuomo is now facing more scrutiny for his handling of the pandemic after previously receiving high marks. Dana, as we go into this reopening phase, i have a feeling like we are just in a grand experiment. Lives are on the line. What do you think . Dana i think its more than just an experiment. Though you could look at, as greg has mentioned, 50 different experiments. I do feel like aside from the extreme like in los angeles, cutting off water to businesses, thats extreme. And then may be revelers in wisconsin, that can be an extreme. The extremes or hijacking the debate. What actually you see is governors are using data to inform their decision such as Governor Desantis and governor kemp. One, they would be responsible for the consequences of their decision but they have based it on data. People have been fairly responsible, and they are seeing their numbers continue to come down and they are recognizing that theyre going to have to help their businesses have to figure out a way to reopen safely and responsibly. The other thing is the government cannot be your parent. The government cant do everything for you. We are responsible citizens. We are responsible adults. We are blessed to live in a free country, and the government has to trust us that we will make the decision for ourselves. There might be extremes. But thats not the vast majority of whats happening. I would also say say a prayer for some of these local officials who have to make some really tough decisions. Talk to the mayor of Point Pleasant beach today, he was on the Daily Briefing talked about how they are going to reopen beaches. Its not going to be easy to tell people that if they are in a line, theyre going to have to wear a mask if they are at the beach. Theyre going to have to have patrols. They are trying to do with care. We should understand and try to give them room to do what they need to do so we can reopening get the country moving again. Juan yap. Greg coming to this idea, dan is talking about beaches. The weather is getting better. Theres going to be more people outside, and i think if people are outside giving a social distance, i think theres a better shot at avoiding trouble than when we are indoors kind of huddled with the virus around. What do you think . Greg i have always felt that way and i have said it many times. The first suggestion about this virus is that it was spread indoors. Its an indoor sickness. I think its a really smart idea to get people outside as the weather gets warmer. As for people who continue to accuse others of murder when they want to go outside and feed their families, flipped the script. When they accuse you of wanting death, say to them, well, you want more spousal abuse. Domestic violence has been surging as these restrictions linger, right . So if they say you want people to die, well, you want spouses to get beaten up. Ill be absurd. But its analogous. Thats what the media is doing to people who just want to get back to work. Youve got to flip it on them. Piece of advice from greg. Juan we appreciate it. Thank you. Kennedy, im wondering whats practical . What can we really do until the summer camps and the schools get reopened . I know you have kids, so just wanted to hear your thoughts on how extensive can any reopening be if the kids have nowhere to go . Kennedy its true, theres so much pressure on parents right now not only are we in charge of schooling and education and curriculum and being taskmasters and making sure everything is turned in on time and everyone is attending their resume meetings. You also to keep your kids physically active and at the very big challenge. The one nice thing is it is bringing people together and sort of reinvent buying what physical fitness means and getting outside and walking together properly socially distanced, i think thats a great thing and it leaves it up to families, what are we comfortable doing . To danas point, yes, its a laboratory of democracy and everything is going to open differently, just like every person is going to come back from an era very differently but also every business and every parent has to think for themselves what is the best way to keep my family safe while still functioning. Took gregs point, it is a false dichotomy. Its not open up the states and people die or stay at home and the economy craters longterm. There has to be something in the middle and we have to be trusted as individuals to thread the needle. Juan i think thats a good point. Jesse, lets come to the immediate angle. You saw politico critical of the American Media for having previously been so critical of floridas ron desantis, the governor. When he was leaving the beaches open and the like. The reality is now we dont see any largescale outbreaks in florida. On the other hand, very high praise for lots of republican governors. I am thinking of governor dewine of ohio, hogan and maryland, baker and massachusetts. Is it fair to say the media has been unfair to republican governors . Jesse yeah, like, what does desantis need to do . Cuomo is god and this guy botched it, and people are dead in Nursing Homes and its getting worse. They did this all over the northeast. Pennsylvania did the same thing. Now theres a huge scandal because the Pennsylvania Health director withdrew her own mother from a nursing home while she forced other sick people to go into the Nursing Homes. Now thousands of people have been killed. If the media had reported these things early on, every other governor in the country couldve looked at that and said you know what, maybe we shouldnt be doing that. But they cover it up and they focus on red states like georgia, florida. Juan here is the presiden president. President trump i think there will be successful meetings. We are getting a lot of gear out, a lot of gowns out, protective equipment. The governors have all been very think full. We received a lot of calls today from governors. They are very thankful at the job youre doing. Thats good. You have any questions . Reporter [indistinct question] President Trump a lot of discussions going on at camp david. Some military and some other than military. We will probably report back on it on monday. Reporter [indistinct question] President Trump i dont want to talk to them right now. Well see what happens over the next little while. They are buying a lot of our materials. They are spending a lot on the trade deal, but the radio, i dont know. Somehow i lost a little flavor for it, go ahead. We are sending a lot of ventilators to india. I spoke to Prime Minister modi and we are sending quite a few ventilators to india. We have a tremendous supply ventilators. Go ahead. Reporter [indistinct question] President Trump say it. Reporter [indistinct question] President Trump i havent seen it. Go ahead. We are looking at that. We are making a lot of progress on vaccines. We will be speaking to you very soon, and i think we are going to have a very good couple of meetings at camp david. Thank you. Reporter [indistinct question] juan that was President Trump on the south lawn of the white house. He was talking to reporters in advance of his departure for camp david this weekend. Coming up, joe biden making new gaffes while questions mount over whether he is too comfortable campaigning from his basement. That is for you next on the five. 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Dana biden raising some eyebrows with what he was saying to potential voters concerned about the tara reade allegation. I think they should vote their heart to that they believed tara reade, they probably shouldnt vote for me. I wouldnt vote for me if i believed tara reade tara reade. The fact is, look at terry reeds story, changes considerably. Tara reades story. Dana kennedy, the democrats, if you remember during the kav