Do we keep economies closed indefinitely . We know we cant. We have already dug a hole so deep it might reach china. Once we reopen, the curve could on flatten, thats why nobody knows the right thing to reopen, so stop pretending. Dems have the luxury of doing nothing but waiting for something to go wrong especially when you have an ocean view and a fridge full of gelato. This is something you can get through the mail. Okay. Come on out and show me. Yes, absolutely. This is the episode of cribs i never knew i needed. Other people and our family go for some other flavors. But chocolate and we have some other chocolate here. Greg Marie Antoinette had cake, nancy brought the ice cream. But adults, we get it. Each decision brings a wrist. But insulated dope still smear americans on their selfishness for just meeting a paycheck. Patton oswalt mocked anxious gangs for cracking under the lockdown. He assumes that everybody can sit down with netflix and mannings indefinitely just like him, a welloff finger sniffing jack ass. His was not an attack on class, he said that adults would risk their lives were cheeseburgers. But its a good day when a rich leftist shows his hatred for the working class. So as we move with more ups and downs than a kangaroo on meth. All adults know that the path we choose must be flexible. It should pull back, change course based on new info. We can do so based on age or region, but we need the government to be straight with us on tests. Seriously, what is the deal with tests . We will get through this. We have so far. But sadly for you, retreating to a mansion stocked with sherbet is not in the cards. So dana, what drives me nuts about tests is that we keep being told how many we have. We are never told how many we need, and experts, and i know the doctors always hedge and condition everything, because thats what they have to do. There is nothing ever as good news, just news. So what should they say today, you are the press. Lets say you are the press person, what should they say . What should pence say about the tests today so that we can say it, okay, thank you . Dana i want some of my weekends back. Ive spent so much time reading articles about tests trying to understand and to figure it out. Luckily i have not had any symptoms. Ive not had a test. But i also have not been sick. But could i be an ape symptomatic carrier . I dont know. Go back to january and february, we know because of testimony that dr. Fauci gave in front of congress that he said the testing team has not been good enough. He said it was a failure at the time. And then you have the situation where the fda is approving some tests, not others, sometimes they work. Sometimes they dont. Its unclear. The private sector wants to do it. The governor saying we want more tests. The president is saying it is irresponsibility. But we need help, okay, i will help you. But lets just focus in on this, what is the purpose of the tests . There are two types of tests . The first one is do you have coronavirus or not. And the goal of knowing that is to say if dana perino ends up having a positive test, so i have to go quarantine for two weeks, and then you should find out everyone that ive been in touch with, and those people should know, they should probably get a test, and they should probably quarantine for two weeks. Its too isolated and to stop the spread. But then there is also the antibody test. Because if you are asymptomatic and actually have been had an immunity to it, should you donate plasma or go back to work . But the test is supposed to be a measure of confidence for us to be able to move forward. Dr. William hayes had a report that basically said in the first round, youll almost need 1 billion tests so that each person can be tested three times. That is the ultimate goal. That would be if we can possibly do it. But then in a second round coming in need another billion tests over the next two years while we wait for a vaccine. Thats a lot of testing. But we have to understand, what are we testing for . And also when they get up there at the press briefing and they talk about how many tests we have done, for who . When, what, why, how . It is absolutely maddening. If we are supposed to have a measure of confidence from the tests, than they have to do a better job of communicating it. When the president says to the governor, it is your responsibility, the governors are saying, we agree, but we need the federal government to help us scale up. And the president says, i will help you scale up. So there is less friction between the states and the federal government on this than the media is making us think there is. But we still need better answers. Greg that leads me to my next question, that the cdc was not invented in 2016 when trump was elected, so apparently was there a plan for ramping up testing for a coming pandemic . Or is that not possible, because you dont have the tests for an upcoming pandemic if you dont know what the virus is . So this is just the natural kind of chaos and horribleness that would happen . Dagen the cdc did screw up initially on the test they sent out to the state labs was faulty and had to be recalled. It was about seven weeks ago that the fda allowed private companies to manufacture test kits and put them to use without having them be approved. But now it has been a supply chain nightmare. We have labs hoarding some materials needed for testing. Other labs, where the testing supplies are short, and they need them. The abbott machine has not been that effective, the one that the president showcased, that has been a problem. But you literally have a long list of components that are in short supply. I can go through the pipette tips and the glass pipettes, and those style parts, chemical agents, swabs that the president was talking about using the defense production act to do so up the supply of swabs. They need to have at least one person who is definitely an charge and directing the supply chain around the country. But not everybody is going to get tested to go back to work. You know what, americans have taken the potential deaths in this country from about 240,000 deaths down to what 60,000 deaths . Close to that, just by Wearing Masks and social distancing and washing their hands and staying the hell away from one another. And if we trusted them to bend the curve, that we can trust them to do the same thing and get back to business, and at least reopen the economy in a small way. Greg you know, juan, about opening it up, it is obvious when you look at states. It cannot be onesizefitsall. New york has 933 deaths per million. South dakota has eight per million. So obviously it is going to be kind of messy, because every state is almost an individual with different traits. Juan yes, that is true, i guess i would start with the fact that we are all talking about dr. Fauci, and he said this very morning that we have to be careful about reopening too quickly. Because then this thing could spike again and we would be back in trouble. But to your point, greg, we have a federalist system. Thats why you will have the governors were the regional town packs with the neighbors in neighboring states make some rules. The problem is even with the federalist system, to pick up on your analogy, if i am in new jersey, which is a relative hot spot and decide that im going off to dubuque or cheyenne, which is not a relative hot spot, who knows . Nobody can stop me. I am an american, right . That would introduce a theory of big problems in terms of people just doing what they want to do and saying, i have a business trip or whatever and taking going to see a relative, and nobody knows that they helped to spread coronavirus into an area that did not have a problem previously. Right now most americans more than 60 according to the polls, they say, slow down. We are worried that we are going to reopen too quickly. Rather than not sufficiently quickly. People are obviously suffering economically. There is horrific economic pain in our country, but right now people are so concerned that if they have to go back to work or they have to go into places that they want to be assured that they are not going to suddenly get terribly sick or possibly die. We have seen a lot of deaths. Greg jesse, does your dog rookie have an opinion . Because i swear i heard rookie. Jesse yes, you heard correctly, sorry about that, americo. Im going to beat him after th this. Dana no. Jesse sorry, dana, im not going to beat him, i will just kick him. [laughter] im not going to do anything, everybody relax. To juans point, the guidelines address nonessential travel. If you are living in new jersey, you cant do nonessential travel in phase one. That is already addressed. And to the testing situation, i actually spent my friday night to listening to the task force. And fauci went on for minutes and minutes about the testing situation. They say listen to the experts. And the expert said, dr. Fauci, we have enough tests to make it through phase one. That made me feel a lot better. He also said this, we are not going to test 350 million americans. You dont do that. You test and hot spots and the front lines, and you test people that are showing symptoms. If you test everybody in kansas, 3 million people, when they have a couple hundred cases, whats the point of that . That is a colossal waste. To say i live in kansas and i am a some dramatic and i get a test, i am negative, and then i leave the lab and shake someones hand, now i have coronavirus. To do i get tested again . What is the point . The point is that we even have someone, a admiral in charge. Being rolled out strategically, and you are going to have enough tests. I think what happens with the tests have been with the ventilators. There was a huge panic about ventilators, and it turns out there was never a ventilator shortage. No one ever went without a ventilator, and now we have access to capacity ventilators, we can give every country in the world an extra ventilator times ten. So Everybody Needs to relax. We are going to get through this. And its going to be okay. And geographically, guys, they are freaking out about opening up a beach or two in jacksonville, florida, duval county. Duval county, huge county has 15 coronavirus deaths. Queens county in new york city has nearly 3,000. 15 deaths to 3,000 deaths. Devol county is nine times the size of Queens County and everybody in new york is panicking that they opened a beach in florida. They are doing things strategically, smart. They are talking to the local Health Officials on the ground and consulting the task force. The federal system, we all learned this in middle school, its going to go county by county, state by state, one step at a time. Greg i hope you are right, jesse. And it is fair for you to use the ventilator example, but i would have to come back with the face mask example. That they were dead wrong, and we had horrible shortages on face masks. And that did not build any trust in me. Which is why i am worried about the tests. But i see your point about the ventilator, and we shall take a break now and discuss it further. Jesse you dont need a face mask at the beach, that is my point. Dagen you do, actually. Yes, you do. Jesse no, not really. Enclosed spaces. Dana we will go to the exports. 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So for a weak leader who does not take responsibility, he places blame on others. And that mightve been okay for before, but we cannot continue down a path that is again a combating with science, science, science. Evidence, data on how we can go forward. Dana trump and pelosi clashing over funding to help Small Businesses, republicans lashing out at democrats over delays because funding for the program ran out last week. After an impasse, it looks like the white house and congress are close on a 470 billion package to help Small Business owners. President trump weighed in on that. You say it is ready to go, then they say, we have a good negotiating system, because he said it was ready to go. We are negotiating with the democrats, and they negotiate the things that we can do that we dont think are in the best interests of the people of this country. We are very close to a deal. Dana im going to go to you first on this, because i want to point out that it is likely that what ever they pass is going to look almost identical to what they had proposed two weeks ago. So this money did not actually have to run out, it was just playing politics with it, and i have Small Business owners who have applied, and they cant get their money. And every day they are thinking they are going to have to lay off or they are going to lay off people or they are going to have to lose their business. Dagen these are Family Businesses that are flat on their backs. And these people dont know how they are going to stay open. Because the democrats were playing politics with a reload and a refreshing and a refill of the Small Business paycheck protection program. Seven days before that program ran out of money, Mitch Mcconnell put in front of the democrats a 25line bill just for the money. And what did they do . They drag to their feet. So every time anyone of these democrats ever says Small Businesses. So they figure out the fabric of america, they could be proceeded with the go to hell, Small Businesses, because thats what you did. And now they are trying to turn it on the republicans the democrats are, why did the blue states not get as many loans filled as some of the red states . Because thats where the big banks were, and they deserve all lot of the big banks. But making about 120 billion in loans out of a 350 billion program. Those big banks, bank of america, jpmorgan, they slowly walked for the first ten days of the program when they shouldve been stepping up like the community banks. There is shame to go around. And i have a steaming pile of horse manure they can all jump in. Greg yeah. Dana i knew that i wanted to go to you first on that. Greg, what about the view between pelosi and trump . Going through a emergency and a pandemic and an election year. Greg i hate it when politics intrudes. But first i want to address the Small Business owners that are being ignored. There are a lot of sole proprietors and 1099 on salary workers that are being turned down by banks as well. So restaurants, hospitality sectors, they employ a lot of nonsalary workers. And they are not getting any help from the banks on that, because they dont accept 1099. That needs to be addressed. But to the feud, we learned in times of virus that politics is incurable. And it has a chief symptom of amnesia where it allows people to accuse others of sin that they just committed. Like pelosi or de blasio, or cuomo, who said people should just keep going to mass events, so they really cant criticize trump about delay, since they are telling people it was no big deal. It wasnt pelosi focusing on the exaggerated hysteria of labor dates before she got around to this . By the way, everyone do themselves a favor, Google Dan Crenshaw on bill maher, it is the best. Dana yes, yes, you should do that and spend some time without one. But the Small Business owners, like restaurants, they have their rent that they have to pay to the landlord. And they are not sure if they are going to be able to make it much longer. Jesse could you imagine, dana, if there was a republican in charge and that republican was holding up money to Small Businesses, to families in the middle of an economic calamity . The media would be breathing fire, but for some reason nancy pelosi gets a pass. I cannot believe that she says that trump bumbled the thing, that must mean that fauci and birx fumbled it, because every time they came with