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FOXNEWSW The Five April 17, 2020

Nation for the next front in this war against covid19. As the white house releases or guidelines for safe reopening carefully, and in three separate phases. The Coronavirus Task force will come again in an hour from now for the friday update. So in the meantime we will break it all down. First of all, the first phase to see the reopening of gyms, restaurants, may be theaters, and sports venues, but with strict social distancing measures in place. Schools would stay closed, and highrisk individuals would stay home. To the other phases would then loosen restrictions more if cases continue to fall. But there are some critics that that of the plan including nancy pelosi, calling them vague and inconsistent. Here is more reaction from other democrats. I think what he has kind of done is punted coming he has decided that he does not have the right to make the call for the country. You have to know who has a illness, who is immune to the illness and who can get the illness before we can determine who can go back to work. Okay, it is up to the states, but then dont ask the states, dont give them a massive undertaking that has never been done before and then not give them any resources to do it. Dana all right, happy friday. Greg, i want to start with you. Maybe a little bit of perspective to set this up, because in a way all of us feel like it is groundhogs day. It has been about four weeks that we have been able to do the show remotely from here. And last friday was the end of the week in which jerome adams, the Surgeon General has said that this will be our pearl harbor moment, hopefully reaching the apex and the peak. This week we are talking about the reopening. And we have some guidance. Some of it is vague because the states are going to have to decide based on their different criteria. Isnt that a little bit of a hopeful sign that its not just one big block and we can look at some progress . Greg i dont see anything here that is vague. I see a road map and you are allowed to drive it. What drives me crazy is that if trump had taken more command over this. Instead, this is what youre going to do, they wouldve accused him of being a dictator and a tyrant. If so what does he do . He shares the responsibility with the governors. Here is the road map, you drive the car. And now he is accused of punting by joe biden . And then i predicted this yesterday, i said that nancy pelosi was not going to say anything until after the plan is revealed because she did not want any skin in the game. She preferred to stand in front of her double wide refrigerator and suck down ice cream until she gets an ice cream headache than actually offer practical advice. You can sit on a bench and you can crap on people doing the job when you are out of power, that make sense. But it is so obvious and sad. In the situation, peoples lives are going to, there is going to be death. Every path that we choose is going to have death. So the path that you have to choose is a road map in which you can go in reverse. Or you can pause. Or you can take a left or a right. Thats what this is. You are a sports car with a stick shift, and you shift gears based on the terrain that is coming at you. And you can even go in reverse. Thats what the guideline is. So to sit there and go, its vague and inconsistent, you are just an idiot. Pure and simple, stick to your ice cream. [laughs] dana and i think we have a couple of trump tweets and a Governor Cuomo sound bite. If you can pull those up so i can read those. Governor cuomo should spend more time doing and less complaining. Get out there and get the job done. To stop talking, we built you thousands of hospital beds that you did not need or use, gave large numbers of ventilators that you should have had and helped you with. Theres a little bit more, testing that you should be doing. We have given new york far more money, help, and equipment but in any state by far, and the men and women never hear you say thanks. Your numbers are not good. Less talk and more action. I think it does say thank you allotted to the health care workers, but Governor Cuomo decided to respond. We have a sound bite of that. Lets listen. First of all, if he is sitting home watching tv, maybe he should get up and go to work, right . Second, lets keep emotion and politics out of this and personal ego if we can, because this is about the people. It is about her job. And lets try to focus on that. Dana all right, juan, i will let you take a whack at this one. Juan i hate to see us get political about this. I think that we need to work together. And i would hope that sometimes the president loves to be celebrated and thanked and all of that. Okay. So then Governor Cuomo fires back. Im not sure it takes as much anywhere. But in terms of the plan, dana, to me i feel like everybody has cabin fever. We know about the highend unemployment numbers, but we have to be careful. We cant let emotions that drive us, and impatience, because if we dont have testing. If we dont have contact tracing, then we can get ourselves in a very difficult situation where we put our workers, the people going back to work at a very high level of risk, and we put all of their customers, the people that they come into contact with, work with, also at risk. Then we can find ourselves in a worse situation. So when you hear people say, we would like to know how to deal with that, and we would like the federal governments help, i think in terms of specifics, what Chuck Schumer was talking about, even what you heard from Governor Cuomo in terms of, if you lay out a plan, give us some of the resources to make it work, i think thats what people are saying. It does not necessarily have to be something nasty or divisive or fingerpointing. Dana actually, katie. There were lots of different governors on greg is laughing, but i will keep going. Lots of different governors on the shows today talking about how they are working in coordination with the federal government and trying to figure out their own road map, the colorado governor, and all of the states have a little bit of a different situation on their hand. Katie which is exactly why the president has said it is up to you guys, do what you want with this plan, its going to be in phases, different places with a lower density population. Different places will have a different process going through this. But its interesting what is will happening in d. C. Where lawmakers are at home. You have Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi criticizing the plan, and saying that you have to be careful and make sure the economy is not open too quickly. When they are sitting there at home and not refilling the paycheck protection plan, program, and not coming up with any other ideas about how to get people from Economic Health while they continue to advocate for the economy to be close, its really easy to do that. Its also easy to do that when you are getting a paycheck. In the bottom line for people who are getting cabin fever is that they want to be able to make their own decisions about their own risk. At this point they understand a lot more about the virus and we did two months ago, and they understand what precautions they need to take to not get sick, but they want to be able to do that on their own without being dictated to by the government. Dana all right, jesse, let me give you the last word here. Jesse if democrats have a problem with the plan, take it up with fauci and birx. They are the officials that signed off on it. And Everybody Loves Governor Cuomo, so if President Trump gives him free power and they say, he cant handle it or do it by himself all of a sudden, Governor Cuomo is complaining about not getting the resources, he just donated hundreds of ventilators to other states because he had overcapacity. Because the present and gave so many. He just built hospitals dumb at a hospital in long island that they have not even used to get. I would stop complaining already before the president has given you additional resources. The country is viewing this from two different perspectives. There are people that are better off, that are kind of having a little fun, may be working from home, they are still getting paid. They are zooming, they are cooking. And then there are people that can afford to work from home. They dont have a job. They have lost a business that has been in their family for generations. And today are dying to get back to work. And one side does not understand the other side. You know, how could you not want to protect the health . What about if it spreads further . And then the other side is saying, wait a second, you guys understand my position, i need to work to feed my family. Or else, this is it for me. And they are talking across of each other, and a lot of it has to do with new york. The state of new york has 225,000 cases. New jersey has 75,000 cases. Combined that is 300,000 virus cases. The next biggest state that has that case is 35,000 in massachusetts. Other states like wyoming, north dakota, hawaii, vermont, west virginia, they have a couple hundred cases. And so to say that to new york should open up at the same rate as vermont which has like a handful of cases is stupid. Everybody knows that is stupid. But they are trying to attack the president for politics. And thats just wrong. Dana all right. Good discussion. Protests continue to rage across the country against rick to stay at home orders that we were kind of just talking about. Stay tuned. We will tell you more. Open road and telling people that Liberty Mutual customizes your insurance, so you only pay for what you need [squawks] only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. If we werent able to stream anything, i think theyd be lost. Shes listening to music. Hes watching the news. vo verizon is giving you more entertainment, like apple music, disney , and youtube tv. Unlimited plans start at 35. Shop online. Only at verizon. Music jesse protests are spreading across the country against rick stay at home orders, breaking out in states like michigan, kentucky, virginia, and minnesota. Calling on governors to roll back on arbitrary and restrictive measures. Facing at least two federal lawsuits over her stay at home is a ban on visits to friends or relatives. And protesters are getting no sympathy from liberal w cohost joy behar. She mocked them with this comment. I would like to ask them if they are ready to sign away their right to treatment if and when they get affected. Are you going to say, i dont need a ventilator, because i thought that i should go out and defy the governors order. Jesse all right, katie, you mentioned about some regulation that they had in michigan where they cannot buy seeds to grow food. I heard another one today, if you live in detroit and you have a summer home, you cant leave detroit and go say at your second residence. Its crazy. Katie it is ridiculous and very personal for these people. I dont really understand what joy behar is saying. First of all, we have been able to buy some time with getting the hospitals ready and the equipment embeds that they need to handle the situation moving forward, but also what she says is like driving a car and getting in a car accident and saying, you are not allowed to go to the hospital because he got in an accident and made the choice to go do that. I think people are smart enough to make their own decisions about understanding the risk. They understand if they dont want to get sick, they dont have to go out, but they dont want to be told that they can do basic things like garden on their own property. The second thing is in this new plan, one of the things that stuck out to me on the road map that the white house put out is elective surgeries in phase one will now be allowed to resume, that i i think its such a crucial point, that includes biopsy is for cancer detection. Ive heard from doctors that said that they were unable to operate on their Breast Cancer patients at this point. I mention her family friend who has a collapsed lung. Think about how much damage that is doing to Peoples Health and Mental Health as a result of not being able to get that health care they need those circumstances. There are consequences to all of these things. I dont think they are all arbitrary. But in michigan they certainly have been, thats why you are seeing people say enough is enough, i am essential its essential to feed my family. I make my own decisions. Jesse i heard another regulation they have in michigan, you are allowed to kayak it, but you cant go out in a motorboat. Figure that one out for me. Greg i cant. I cant. I just want to point out that joy makes a fabulist living as a feminist bozo the clown, she does not understand. She just shows up and spouts whatever. We trust our leaders until they push their luck. What happened was that you had a governor, mike rowe, micromanaging in an arbitrary fashion. I mean, you cannot buy seeds, but you can buy pot. I remember when i was young, you would buy pot and all you got were seeds. So the protests arent about staying at home. They are more about the kind of arbitrary micromanagement. She pointed out that she thought swats because at the rally, and she did. I think that she did see them, but there is a distinction. The protesters were comparing her actions to fascist dictators. It was not that there were not seeing is there, it was that they were unfairly comparing her to hitler, which is wrong. But one should make that distinction, because she was saying that there were nazis there because she saw swastikas. Jesse what the heck is on your shirt . Greg this is a legendary misfits shirt, but it has a mask on it. Isnt it awesome . I got it from jerry. Jesse i got it. Im glad that, im not sure that im glad i did. Dana perino, you mention the other day about the governor of michigan, she was kind of shortlist to be vp, mishandling her opportunity to show her strength as a governor. She now says she is going to have a plan to reopen next week. Is it too late for her . Dana and might be too late for her to be on the vp shortlist, because that debut was not so good. And i think what happened was she got caught up in the National Political current, and now she will be swept out to sea. There are other examples of governors who have done a pretty good job of ignoring the national politics. And Charlie Baker up in massachusetts is one of them. I put Governor Polis of colorado in that basket as well. Does not mean that they will not have protests, people complaining about the lockdowns. But i do think from a governor standpoint, the leadership, when you are looking to see who has done a good job and who has not, you can compare to Governor Northam in virginia who all of a sudden today said, okay, or yesterday said we will be locked down till june 10th. But did not give any more reasons are data or explanation, and this idea that katie was just talking about elective surgeries. There are a lot of hospitals across the country that are desperate for patients. They are running out of money. And nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer say that they want to hold up the money for the Small Businesses, because they want to help the hospital spread one of the ways to help the hospitals would be allowed to governors to make that decision to allow for hospitals that can handle it to do these elective surgeries. Then you wont have to get them so many taxpayer dollars in order to take care of their short ball. Jesse thats a really good point. Juan, bring it home for us. Juan i just want to underline what dana just said, because you know, i know some doctors in my family. Then again, the hospitals are struggling. And people who do need to have the elective surgeries. In some cases, they have to let doctors who are not in the emergency rooms, they have to lay them off or put them on leave for a while, because they are not getting the income from those surgeries. Over all i would say that i dont want this to be a big political fight. And the thing these rallies, the president weeding today, liberate minnesota. Deliberate michigan, and the flags at the rally, it makes it seem so political. And i think that people are right to say to government, dont be intrusive. Dont step on my rights. We will act together. And they have in terms of social distancing. In terms of the hand washing to lower the curve. We dont want to give that up just suddenly and without reason. You have to give some leeway to elected officials that are looking out for the publics health. I dont think we want to politicize this so that oh, certain people think this way, lets not do that with this. This is too important and too deadly. I was shocked, jesse, to see that it was 2200 people that died in america yesterday, and 2500 on wednesday. Over 33,000 americans dead as a result of this. This is serious business. Jesse i would agree with you, juan, we do not want to see this politicize. Coming up, it is basket of deplorables all over again, may be. 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