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Transcripts For FOXNEWSW The Five 20170809 01:00:00


than that. kim jong un has departed from his grandfather and his father, who wanted nuclear weapons to preserve the regime. kim jong un has come to a different calculation. therefore, his strategy is different. he believes the only way to preserve the regime -- there's only one country that would change it. the united states. the only way to stop the united states from doing that -- he's paranoid about the united states -- you have to hold the american people at risk. that's why we have this accelerated program of ballistic missile development and intercontinental ballistic missiles that have the capability to deliver nuclear warhead. furthermore, he strategizes this way, once he achieves that capability -- in his mind -- the united states will acquiesce and accept that capability much as the united states accepted the development of nuclear weapons h as the united states 40 years ago except to china developing
it's unfortunate this rhetoric is going back -- i think we should stay out of the rhetoric business with north korea and stay measured in terms of what our response is. >> dana: >> dana: greg gutfeld. >> greg: hey, general. i don't know, this is the first time i've ever seen a western leader respond to north korea using their actual language. i wonder if this is another way of president trump negotiating from a very powerful point of view. one that they understand, using words like -- but are easily translatable -- like fire and fury. if they strike first, is completely over for them. if we do nothing, theoretically, nothing happens. am i right? >> that certainly -- that's the equation people want to believe. the problem we have is because of the kind of regime that
north korea has, we cannot treat north korea the way we treat other great power competitions. namely the soviet union in the past and now russia and also china, who possess significant amount of nuclear rise icbms. the north korean regime, we don't believe and i don't know anybody that does except people on the far left, that you can use mutually assured destruction as the determinants for north korea ever using those weapons against the united states. we don't believe that. what we want to happen is that they don't get the capability and that's the path we are heading on. the path to them not having this capability, nuclear rise icbms -- it's china. we are on that path but we are not close to getting where we need to be. we are on a collision course with china. you are going to see us get really tough with china because
i don't think china will behave necessarily in a way that ambassador haley wants them to behave. i think they are going to come up short and we are going to have to really go after china and their interest with korea but also their interest in the region. we will have to put significant geopolitical and economic pressure on china. >> dana: jesse watters. >> jesse: general, it seems like there are a few options here. united states either accepts a nuclear rise to north korea and is somewhat like the soviet union where you live under that blackmail scenario. or, our defensive capabilities, the subs. that just obliterates them and a huge crisis. or third option, a coup or an assassination attempt. what you think the chances are of a targeted assassination attempt, a decapitation strategy in north korea? >> there is a possibility of
that happening. that would be something that was engineered by the chinese. they want to change out the leadership, thinking that the leadership is not responding to them. listen, this is what we've got to recognize. north korea has nuclear weapons because the chinese wanted them to have nuclear weapons. they wanted them to be the dominant power on the peninsula. north korea has intercontinental ballistic missiles that looked remarkably similar to the chinese. portable missiles. i bet anything if we went up and pulled off the label, we would see "made in china" during those parades. yet understand how close these countries are. the intellectual property they are using is chinese. china has their hands all over this thing. at the path through this has got to be through china. there's a possibility, because of the pressure that china will start to put on north korea, if
they get resistance, that would lead them to make the regime change. in other words, assassinate them and put somebody else in his plated that is complicit and would respond to their guidance. that's still a reasonable option that could be down the road. >> dana: richard fowler. >> talking about those delivery systems, what options do we have with destroying those delivery systems? our air force to actually destroy so they can use the warheads? >> the best way to deal with the delivery system is to destroy it before it lifts the missile off the launch pad. that way are guaranteed the destruction of that capability. kim jong un is no fool and what he has said to us is if anyone conducts an unprovoked attack, it's a war on the peninsula. i will conduct an immediate
invasion of south korea with every rocket and missile i have and also nuclear weapons. that is the threat that he is holding over us to prevent us from exercising that kind of a military action. that's offensive a new terror. the rest of our military action is dealing with a delivered system, defensive. should the system down -- shoot it when it's up in space. using the ground-based midcourse missiles, 44 of them that are in alaska and also in california. that's not an option we want have to use because that's a system that's heading towards some population center in the united states and we are totally dependent on a bullet killing a bullet in thin air. we have capability to do it but we also have missed 50%-60% of the time with the system i am describing right now. >> dana: their moms and dads that are trying to explain this
to their kids tonight. kids that did not grow up in cold war. minus a couple here. we were used to this idea that this is new to them and the anxiety is really high, there was a cbs poll tonight that says 72% of americans are actually concerned and starting to get scared. what would you advise them tonight, with talking to their kids and calm the situation down? >> here are some things we should take solace with. president trump, although he is inexperienced with foreign policy and national security, he has great instincts about it and in intuitive sense. i know that from personal conversations. secondly, he has one of the best national security teams wrapped around him that this country has ever had. steady, calm, measured people that have been in and out of crisis all their adult lives. this is good news for us. i believe that we will avoid war with north korea.
because we are going to take the action necessary with china to force them into a position that will create change. it's the only option that makes any sense and once china understands that, then we are going to make some real progress with them. i was watching on a previous show on fox, by the way, fox has got this story absolutely 100% correct. by comparison to other channels. i asked one of our senior guys what is the percentage of going to war? 50%-70%. come on, this is a crisis. it's dangerous but we've got study people here who know what they are doing. >> dana: i'm glad i asked the question. another crisis from the trump administration ahead. the opioid epidemic. at the president said we will win the battle to save american lives from addictive drugs. that's next. ♪
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being briefed on ways to combat the deadly epidemic. >> nobody is safe from this epidemic that threatens young and old, rich and poor. urban and rural communities. everybody is threatened. the best way to prevent drug addiction and overdose is to prevent people from abusing drugs in the first place. >> jesse: kimberly, the president has a big hard on this issue. very compassionate. a lot of people don't know this but president trump's brother passed away from addiction. this means a lot to him. you can tell by the way he speaks about it. >> kimberly: absolutely, he's experienced the personal ravages of this in his own family. one of the key points in the campaign, he talked about it during the election. with governor christie. what you see is him talking about prevention. i like that idea, that people don't become addicted, programs, education, awareness needs to happen early on. even in grade schools.
grammar schools across this country to prevent children from even getting involved. you have to understand with prescription pills, people are having trouble with that because it's readily accessible. the medicine cabinet at home, in terms of making sure they are prosecuting people, and basically preying on people and young children to get people addicted at an early age. >> jesse: kimberly makes a good point that it starts with the pills. these pharmaceutical companies, manufacturers, millions of pills -- doctors get them in and get them out and then people like it so much because it's so powerful that they get into the street stuff like heroin. that's a big problem. pharmaceutical companies today, do they have any responsibility? >> richard: big pharma is a big problem here. a couple things have to happen. we know that prevention is just part of it but you've got a deal
with those individuals that are already addicted to opioids. the first thing you've got to do and i am happy the president is dealing with this but the first thing that has to happen is some sort of program, people that are already owns heroin -- a needle exchange. people that are using dirty needles, intravenous drug use, hiv/aids. there should be needle change across the country. dr. adams who is now in the queue to be appointed to surgeon general -- i hope the president will give him the latitude of surgeon general to get the job done. talking about how doctors can be part of the solution by urging patients to bring their prescription drugs back. when you have opioids prescribed to you and you have 20 percocets under your bed, you bring them back to the doctor's office instead of keeping them in her house. the third thing is finding alternatives to opioids. instead of prescribing opioids, maybe we should talk about how
we legalize marijuana in the used to treat pain. it's not addictive -- as opioids are. going after big pharma. >> kimberly: you know people are addicted to marijuana. >> richard: is not as addictive as opioids. >> dana: people going after big pharma all the time -- i don't think it's necessary the right one. i understand the state of new hampshire, they are the ones that created the oxycontin but doctors -- they swear an oath. >> richard: doctors are part of the problem. >> dana: i'm disagreeing with you. obviously there are some bad doctors but attorney general jeff sessions just did that whole prosecution against not only doctors but some insurance companies they were sulking money from the federal government. but you can go after big pharma but then you are not going to get the alternative. this afternoon on social report, this program is using different
types of medicines like lidocaine patches that would go directly on broken ribs instead of providing opioids. if you just want to target big pharma, you will get all tied up. you will be able to treat any actual people. >> richard: i hear that, dana. the point i am making is that when i had four wisdom teeth removed, they gave me 45 percocets. you don't need 45 percocets. >> kimberly: where are they now? >> richard: i got rid of them. i don't need 45 percocets. >> dana: doctors are taught to treat people's pain. what are you going to do? i understand there's a briefing, calling for a national state of emergency? what is that turn into? governor huckabee said actually, let the states decide. sometimes the best solution is actually in and initiative.
go back to those places. i think that be a good thing. >> jesse: i'm going to play greg gutfeld. what you do about the opioid crisis? >> greg: we have to address the fact that everything we have said has been said about every drug since the invention of drugs. the fact is, people up or use this drug because the drug is effective. people don't sit around and do flintstone vitamins all day. they do this because it feels good and life is hard. life is painful. people have a right to their oblivion. people have a right to relieve pain. the one thing we don't talk about -- we are forgetting that there are people who need these drugs. people are in pain. millions of people are in pain. i don't know how many, 20,000 people die every year. 88,000 people die from alcohol abuse and we don't do that story. we do this story because the flavor of the month. there are people that are definitely in trouble and that need help. the fact is, it's because this thing is so powerful and so effective that it makes you
question your survival mechanism. it affects your breathing, you don't wake up. it's so good that you just keep doing it. you have to figure out how to manage this. expecting somebody to turn their drugs and when they are that good -- forget about it. i wouldn't. >> dana: >> kimberly: friends au for them. >> greg: who would ever do that? if we are okay with the risks of firearms, the risks of alcohol but suddenly, we are not okay with the risk of of something that helps millions of people. we should be addressing the balance, while reducing the risk. you have helmets for bicycles, seat belts for cars, we have to know how to effectively maintain the use of this drug while preventing the overdoses. they are overdoses but millions of people that are watching right now that use this drug. >> kimberly: since 1999, the amount of overdoses of opioids has quadrupled. >> greg: they've gone up. give them something better. what are you going to give
somebody in pain better than that? hugs? i don't think so. i think you can use both. >> richard: okay. >> greg: this is a good question. the psychological and physical pain overlaps. the same part of the brain. people want to admit that opioids are not just treating physical pain. they are treating depression. a lot of people are taking this drug for depression and it's more effective than antidepressants and we don't want to admit that. if we formulated the drugs people could use it and deal with their psychological pain, you might have a real change in the way people live their lives. >> richard: i'm talking about therapy. there's nothing wrong with therapy, folks. i have a therapist. there's nothing wrong with it. >> jesse: the meeting between bill clinton and loretta lynch. concrete proof. the evidence, ahead. ♪
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♪ >> greg: according to the just-released emails, then tarmac meeting with bill clinton and loretta lynch is like pulling teeth from an inebriated shark. lamenting that my editors are still pretty interested in this story and that he's hoping to put it to rest by answering a few more questions. "the new york times" described the public affairs director -- he had been pressed into service to write about it. the tone is of an apologetic teacher who doesn't like giving the tension but does because others do. the doj said they aren't interested in this story, even if fox -- evil fox -- runs with it. it's like they are saying they are still on your side, unlike fnc who still thinks the story mean something.
this doesn't mind-blowing at all. they did the story anyway. it gives you a peek into the mindset of people who don't just write these stories but shape the agenda. they try to persuade viewers, like benghazi and the irs scandal like playing up others like russia, or in russia, or russia. they aren't presenters of news but curators. manipulating the significance of a story by controlling its exposure. the fact is, everyone play down the tarmac story in order to help hillary. the good news, it didn't work. >> a clear example of media bia. am i right? >> i disagree. >> than i am out of here! >> greg: the only way to win an argument is when i leave. >> dana: maybe it was the abc producer saying it. of course, we do this here. every news station had an assignment editor. deciding what to cover.
if you look at what a couple news reporter said, reporters always do this. like 10:00 p.m. on a saturday, i am so sorry, my editors are really frustrating me. as a way for them to prevent themselves from being yelled at. >> greg: they knew you were home. >> dana: all. probably. >> greg: i couldn't resist. >> dana: they always apologize for bothering people. and lead to the semirecusal of loretta lynch. >> greg: this story was bigger than watergate. >> jesse: yeah, but they can cover it. the media bias isn't about what they report, it's about what they don't report. usually if the covers for republican scandals but they play up democratic scandals -- if this happened in a vacuum, that's fine. at the wikileaks shows they collude with democrats all the time. these reporters were sending up
stories for democrat politicians to edit before they went to be published. we know their whole industry did that and they were exposed for it. >> dana: i'm talking about -- the c block. >> jesse: i'm talking about it in a broader perspective. so that the people can understand it at home. why when reporters are asked about this correspondence, the fbi said there was no emails about it. it turns out, there were hundreds. it was just an innocent meeting, i did it generate hundreds of pages of email correspondence? if it's just a casual unscheduled meeting, why did the security details of lynch and bill clinton coordinate the meeting? why did loretta lynch use an alias email address when she's talking about generating talking points? and told congress that she never used an alias email address? >> kimberly: why did she only have one and eric holder had
four? >> dana: they all did it. >> jesse: the fbi agent told people that witnessed the meeting not to take any pictures and not to record. why did bill clinton wait on the tarmac for lynch's plane to come in and then poured the plane? he said they talked about golf. does loretta lynch play golf? there's no record of him playing in phoenix that day, it was 108 degrees. >> dana: you need a chalkboard to write everything down. >> richard: quite a fishing expedition, jesse. >> jesse: i just got a big one. >> greg: would reporters be apologetic if they were talking about russia? i don't know. i think their enthusiasm would take over. >> richard: is a nothing fish. >> jesse: you can't use that phrase, nothing burger. >> richard: i said nothing fish. >> jesse: to close. >> richard: the journalist said i'm being dragged to cover
this because i usually cover the white house and the doj reporter is not in. i'm being forced to cover this because i don't cover this assignment. i'm filling in for somebody. like i'm filling in today. just saying. the point i'm making -- all of these organizations covered this ad nauseam him. wall-to-wall coverage about this tarmac meeting. let's not forget that everybody covered comey's press conferences, where he cleared clay clinton and when he said we are checking emails that almost cost her the election. when he said oh, we found all these other emails other emails. at >> kimberly: we have to cover it. >> richard: the media didn't cover it up. they covered it. >> greg: we know for a fact that they did not want to do the story because it wasn't something that fit into their narrative. >> kimberly: absolutely. it's not so shocking because this is what we saw during the obama administration and remembering when ben rhodes was laughing and blocking the media about how gullible they were?
calling them useful fools? wow. what a way to bum your day when someone calls you that. >> greg: i'm used to that. >> kimberly: you are charming, at least. this is no surprise to me. they would absolutely rather cover an end crossing the street than anything that would be detrimental to the obama administration. >> greg: and interrogation program for 9/11 about being on trial. they interrogated terrorists. that landmark case, next. >> kimberly: how nuts is this? ♪ sn't it time to let the real you shine through? maybe it's time for otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months,... ...with reduced redness,... ...thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has...
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they call him the whisperer. the whisperer? why do they call him the whisperer? he talks to planes. he talks to planes. watch this. hey watson, what's avionics telling you? maintenance records and performance data suggest replacing capacitor c4. not bad. what's with the coffee maker? sorry. we are not on speaking terms. >> kimberly: some breaking news on the news from north korea, earlier the regime threatened up possibly nuclear strike on guam. south korea and japan flew over
the north korean peninsula where they practiced training. a strong show of force in the region. stay tuned to fox news for development as they come in. also developing tonight, two psychologist, the enhanced interrogation program post 9/11 are headed for trial next month. the aclu is suing dr. james mitchell and bruce jetson. one who died in custody, the suit claims the men had an extreme mental torture program for the agency. mitchell once interrogated the mastermind of 9/11 and earlier this year, he maintained she and jetson will be cleared if the case went to trial. >> those things that were done by the cia and the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks were judged not one time but four or five times by the department of justice to be
legal. i never heard two of these people who are suing me. until the lawsuits showed up in 2015. >> kimberly: dana, you have some strong feelings about this. >> dana: he doesn't know the people that are prosecuting on their behalf. i find the aclu defending them is shameful. this is definitely a left-wing attack on these two men. they were public servants and asked by the government to do something very difficult. none of us would want to do that but they did. i know and i am confident that their actions saved lives. especially that one interrogation. if this was a criminal case, i would recommend the president to issue a pardon. it's not, it's a civil case. that's probably why they did it this way. they cannot bring a criminal case against these guys. i think the president should comment on this. i think it merits his attention. i think you should offer them his support. to build goodwill he needs with the intel community.
it would show people like the aclu that we are going to stand behind our men and women in uniform and the intelligence community when they need to do the very necessary things they do to protect us from terrorist. >> kimberly: absolutely. they didn't do anything illegal. they were doing their jobs. it's an excellent point, dana. the president should stand up on their behalf. do a tweet, make a public statement. do something to show his support. in regard to the service they did for their country. >> greg: one of the problems is that people don't know how to form the war on terror. they act like when you're fighting the war on terror, you are fighting something like childhood obesity. fighting terror requires different rules and fighting other things. terror actually wins if you follow traditional rules. they expect you as a civilization not to do the thing that might actually win. liberals on the left will tell you that if you torture, you sacrifice the values that your country is based on, to which i would say "shut up."
trying to save hundreds of thousands of lives is of value. if that requires doing some things that don't follow the rules -- i mean, there is no normal protocol when you are fighting demons. we have to understand that and deal with it realistically. these guys were charged with doing something that they could go to jail for, maybe. they still go and did it and so would you if you knew that somebody's kid's life was on the line. >> kimberly: absolutely. it jesse. >> jesse: these psychologists are patriots and the aclu make me sick. leon panetta, republican and democratic both have said that it enhanced led to intelligence that led to the assault on the bin laden compound. it also broke up terror cells and preventative mass casualty attacks and also enabled us to gain knowledge of the infrastructure, network, and financing of the al qaeda network. this is not you hammering a nail
into someone's hand or breaking bones like they do in many other countries. water boarded. jose rodriguez, who ran the cia's counterterrorism center for about three years after 9/11 said it's not ports torture when you are making someone feel pain so they have to scream out what they know in order to stop the pain. this was in order to change their behavior and make them more compliant. to give them a sense of hopelessness and despair so in order to make it stop, they will then squeal. obama carved out an exemption when he banned enhanced interrogation. he said we are going to ban it but if there is a ticking time on situation, i reserve the right to water board someone. it can't be that bad, given that obama was going to do it. >> kimberly: that establishes the veracity of it. it works if he still carved out an option to do it when there was exigent circumstances. richard. >> richard: i don't agree with enhanced interrogation but you changed my mind on this particular case, dana.
he didn't know the individual. that's what changed my mind on this particular case. i don't agree with enhanced interrogation because i believe in article three of the geneva convention that says torture and inhumane treatment -- coast before they are not covered over the geneva convention. >> richard: i believe as americans, i don't care what it is, the ideal that we can't change who we are because of terrorists and we can't cower to terror -- >> jesse: max before you are not cowering when you -- >> richard: we have to continue being who we are. >> jesse: it could have been a lot a lot worse. it's be to wait a minute. >> jesse: sleep deprivation? >> richard: our judeo-christian values have to continue to persist no matter what happens to our country, period. >> greg: . -- >> richard: that's not torture, waterboarding, breaking people's bones to get something out of somebody.
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♪ >> richard: last month, sarah huckabee sanders read a letter allowed from a little trump fan. >> my name is dylan but everybody calls me pickle. i am nine years old and you are my favorite president. i like you so much that i had a birthday about you. my cake was the shape of your hat. >> richard: when bill maher returned to his hbo show on friday, he made a lot of folks upset by daring to mock it. >> my name is dylan. this kid is nine years old. it's more of an indictment on the educational system. i don't blame the kid. whoever taught him is at the age
of nine? my cake was shape -- see me. the shape of your heart? how old -- are is spelled r a. >> richard: i'm a progressive but this guy is a jerk at best. we already know he's a racist. and number three, he gets no apologies for me. >> greg: the worst thing about bill maher is his audience. they are a group of mindless clapping seals that will allow for a plot even when he uses the n-word. it's virtue signaling in the round. they agree with everything he says. >> dana: children's mail is the best and he probably doesn't get any. >> jesse: i just like the name pickle. i think it's a cute name. i want to know how he came up with that nickname. pickle.
>> greg: he likes pickles. >> kimberly: nice reasonable parents will hate him too because the worst thing about bill maher everything about him. how do know if that child has learning differences were special needs or struggling in school and valued its mock mock and humiliated him? >> richard: bill maher, you are this week's cyberbullying and "one more thing" is up next. with the capital one venture card, you get double miles on everything you buy, not just airline purchases. seriously, think of all the things you buy. great...is this why you asked me to coffee? well yeah... but also to catch-up. what's in your wallet?
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>> dana: held in new castle wyoming. this is a memory to bg. she won the all-around girls junior girls all around. she's only seven years old. she has three older brothers. she was a star. she competed against a jocelyn perino. my cousin jill's daughter. get this. >> greg: what! >> dana: that's her brother on the far right. he will knock the junior boys. a big-time family. she's my second cousin once removed. congratulations, i think we have a little clip of her. it right? >> i love my new saddle. >> dana: congratulations, ann marie. jesse. >> jesse: all of basic cable
for the 31st week in a row, congratulations everybody. also, fox news won prime time as well. congratulations to "the five," "hannity," and tucker. everyone else in the lineup. cnn was beat by cartoon network and also nickelodeon -- among other stations. better luck next time. >> greg: how can you tell the difference between cnn and the cartoon network? i don't know, we will be right back. >> dana: it's your turn. >> greg: greg's slow news day. as you know, a very slow tuesday. nothing's going on. let's look at a dog eating a piece of something. very slow. i think it's a stick. jesse. it is a stick. there is no news. that's as good video. look at this dog licking a stick. >> dana: is not a meme?
>> kimberly: i don't get it. >> dana: kimberly. >> kimberly: i actually have one that's good. country music star glen campbell has died at the age of 81 after a long and courageous battle with alzheimer's. his family announced with the heaviest of hearts, grandfather and father, legendary singer and guitarist -- glen campbell. at the age of 81. his battle with alzheimer's. he is a legend behind the hits "wichita lineman" and "by the time i get to phoenix." his final studio album, he was diagnosed with alzheimer's six years ago. he sold more than 45 million records. 75 chart hits. "rhinestone cowboy" and "southern nights." >> dana: that's a great song. let's play that tomorrow. richard. what's her name?
richard. sorry, richard! and >> richard: both my parents are jamaican, that makes me a jamaican american. this past sunday, we joined with millions across the world celebrating 55 years of independence. >> kimberly: . >> richard: the most notable jamaican, the fastest man in the world -- >> jesse: at the americans just beat him, though. sorry about that. >> richard: naomi campbell, the supermodel. and at the legendary reggae artist, bob marley. happy independence day, jamaica. >> dana: jamaican my day by being here, richard. >> kimberly: that was fun. >> dana: anyone else have anything to say? >> jesse: waters world, saturday, a big show the saturday night. >> greg: he beat me by 3,000 people. >> kimberly: jesse watters

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