Dana, u. S. Defense Officials Say this is not a missile they have ever seen before. Its so new the pentagon doesnt even have a name for it. It was fired from a launch pad not used by north korea in the past. To get a today, nikki haley pue world on notice. The United States is prepared to use the full range of our capabilities to defend ourselves and our allies. One of our capabilities lives with our considerable military forces. We will use them if we must, but we prefer not to have to go in that direction. The pentagon says the u. S. Did not shoot down the Intercontinental Ballistic Missile after launch because it was deemed not to be a threat to the homeland or to allies in the region. A pentagon spokesman added the launch date threatened airliners flying overhead, as well as shipping in the sea of japan because north korea did not coordinate with anyone. The pentagon responded to the test by testing short range surface to surface missiles which can travel up to 200 miles away. North korea has thousands of artillery units pointed at the south korean capital, seoul. Dana President Trump is in poland now ahead of the g7 in germany. The threat must be dealt with after a quartercentury of inaction says Charles Krauthammer. What the North Koreans have done a crossed the rubicon. This is an entirely new phase. What happened today is after 25 years, successful administrations have kicked the can down the road, we are at the end of the road. Dana all right, greg, even though Charles Krauthammer used a cliche, he is correct. Greg north korea is a threat. How big of a threat, we dont know. You need to have a series of measures to allow you to escalate pressure without ending a nuclear war. We have to have all these options at the ready. If you want to win at strip poker, you win a lot of close. So you have to have a lot of options. Dealing with National Security is like wearing a lot of clothes during strip poker. You start taking things off, so its important that you have these options. I think, you noticed it with syria, the way they treated that, they started with an option that sent a message. It wasnt a message that lead to retaliation. It was, this is the mother of all bombs. They are measures moving closer and closer making them nervous. You have to look at north koreas perspective. What if they play ball . What if they deescalate . What if they decide not to have Nuclear Weapons . What happened with qaddafi . Dana earlier today, President Trump tweeted, trade between china and north korea grew almost 40 in the first quarter. So much with trying to work with us, but we had to give it a try. That number surprised me because its been no secret that north korea has been a big problem and china saying that it wants to help. But if it provides 90 of its goods and a 40 increase, thats a big difference. Jesse thats why trying to leverage is only one article of clothing. 40 , thats a lot of trade. If you want to go into a trade war with china, thats what were going to have to do. But i think there are other things you can do. You can get the u. N. Security council, sanction package. Another band phrase, kicking the can down the road. Preemptive strikes i believe are too risky. Its too dangerous and too many people will die. I think the only legitimate option is an assassination attempt or a coup, but that possibility is probably the most difficult. I think what President Trump need to do is make sure north korea, as well as south korea, japan, china and russia, believe that we are going to take preemptive action unless and heres the unless. I think the unless has to be, the intelligence agencies of russia, south korea, japan, and china, and the United States, they need to start collaborating. Get some spice in there, get an assassination network or sell in there, and take preemptive action that way. I think preemptive strategy is the best strategy, and ultimately, this is a huge test for donald trump. If he doesnt rally the pacific partners, we can have in a year or so, a missile that could potentially reach San Francisco, los angeles. This is why its not a partisan issue. This is not iraq, this is not just a regional threat, this is a threat to the homeland. I think republicans and democrats need to rally around the leadership of the president to make sure the menace does not reach our shores. Dana this is a person that thinks a little bit differently than the previous president of south korea. At one the suggestions on the table as a possible option is the United States would stop doing joint military exercises with south korea in order to placate kim jongun. I dont like the idea, but i guess its one of the many bad options on the table. Kimberly i agree with you. Placating is not going to get us anywhere. This whole strategic phase is done. Dont even mention it again. We need to do is start punishing people. We need to understand respect. I would start with economic sanctions, anybody. Chinese governments, banks, anybody doing business with north korea, they need to be publicly identified and shut down. Theres no more of this in terms of allowing people to do whatever they want privately and then Everything Else is on the United States. Also, i think most importantly, lets be honest, we got no more space, no more room on the runway. They need to pursue actively and immediately, regime change. The problem with north korea is, this family, starting with kim jong il, and also kim jongun, they are seen as a religious family. Almost like a deity. You have to replace them with someone that North Koreans will accept of similar like. Instead of saying, where going to take him out, you have to make sure that it something that will stabilize the region, the people will be accepting of, while at the same time pursuing the parallel path of the economic sanctions and putting pressure. We need to put pressure on europe as well. They cant be doing any business with them, because if you sit there at the table with kim jongun and you placate, then you are looking at two very disastrous results. Youre looking at a nuclear iran, thanks to the pastor administration, and you are looking at nuclear north korea. Those are both untenable options. You cant do that. Put pressure on europe, because they dont want a nuclear iran that can reach them as well. They are also sitting ducks. We have to work together, cooperatively, to put a stop to this, and i think there really is the will to do this in this current administration, it certainly is with art secretary of state, rex tillotson, who also is really not going to suffer any fools and saying enough is enough. Dana this is a subject that you covered for years as a journalist. It seems like now, they need is urgent to do something. I wonder if you think there will be bipartisan support for President Trump when he decides to take action, whatever it might be. Juan i was surprised to hear jesse say that he is a great defender of San Francisco all of a sudden. Anyway, you know its interesting to me, if you talk to people who have been any National Defense industry at some time, they say its time to stop talking. Its not about the fists. If you raise a fist to north korea, not only do you endanger the 38,000 americans who are right there on the border, our troops, but there are 10 Million People in our prime ally, south korea, and that vicinity who can easily be struck. The North Koreans have so many missiles. Its not just one or two. The option, dana, are things like containment, which is just that you could put more of a naval force in the region to say to them clearly, no more trafficking in Nuclear Missile materials or supplies coming in. They used apparently, liquid fuel. We can get support from the chinese. Kimberly i take longer to do that. Juan i am just saying its an option. Im not saying that beating them up is not the only option. Kimberly im not saying that. Thats sophomoric. Kimberly we would have to figure that out. Juan you know, russia and china both said, we should be negotiating with the North Koreans. So has the south korean president , as you point out. Its just that, weve tried before to negotiate, and this guy is a deceitful, egomaniac, and not trustworthy. Russia and china think that this is what we should do. Theres no choice here but for us as the American People to support President Trump. The thing is, he said that they are never going to do it. Never going to try and icbm. Dana white and they dont a lot sooner. Jesse can i say something. I know you are a carrot and stick sort of guy but weve been using a lot more carrots with north korea, and theyve been using that money to fund their Nuclear Weapons program. So i dont know how many more carrots we can give them. And talk about what can really go for a side. You make a good point about exposing the countries and companies that do business with the North Koreans. We should do more. We should shame them. Dana thats what gregs monologue coat greg but also, we have to be prepared to pay higher prices if we want to go after china. Would you rather have a war or go after china because they are doing with the trade and going after labor. Actually, what about apple . Apple has companies in china. Jesse we could lean on apple to get something done over there. Juan what would be my number one solution, and i think we have done this. Get involved it with the cyber warfare. I think we stop some of their launches by getting into their programming kimberly we did already. Juan weve reached a point where its intolerable. Help us with wage the cyber war against north korea. Kimberly were doing it. Weve already tried once before. Dana and the North Koreans are not too shabby in the cyber warfare themselves. Greg donald trump is also playing mind games with china saying we , its a shame you cat handle the small country. Thats like, a tiny percentage, and they are kicking your. Kimberly we need some more meme videos. Dana were going to talk about that. Ahead, cnn seems to threaten the online user who posted that trump wrestling gift. Some are opposing cnn of black male. Greg in the spirit of woodward and bernstein, cnn tracked down the dude who posted the trump wrestling video. Imagine if cnn went off their violent rioters and looters the way they go after a cruise prankster. Apparently the guy posted some pretty bad stuff in the past, but come on cnn, you are starting to creep us out. In an article boasting about their scoop. Cnn said they would not publish his name, because he apologized and promised they would not do it again. But cnn added that they reserve the right to publish his identity should anything change. The network pursues a guy up over a joke about them, then after he has spooked, they grant him safety on unless he misbehaves. Again, this isnt some violent thug who burned down a bodega, its a guy who teased the network. Why would cnn do this . Is this to keep others from making fun of them . In a statement, cnn claims the guy apologized before speaking to the reporter, as if being contacted initially by cnn wasnt the catalyst. Then they added conditions based on the guys behavior. This is sinister vindictive stuff. Whether trying to get tunnel trump tossed off of twitter, cnn is now the shrills gold who cant bear being the of jokes. They are the old guy and an open rope shouting get off my lawn. Actually its worse. He still weird neighbor you dont invite to your party because if you dont he will call the cops. How proud they were last night announcing this group, that they got this guy, that a multibilliondollar Company Found this little worm and plucked him out of the ground and crushed them. Dana . Kimberly its unbelievable. Its like how do we make this really bad. Now, they are h and n, humorless news network. You are scared of a wrestling video . Ive never even heard about anything like this, its so cnn willfully proffering false information and stories they knew to be false because of some of the tapes and undercover reports. There are a lot of things in the mix. You have to separate what is partisan or ideological, and what is purely on a legal, legitimate, or constitutional basis. This definitely is an open question. It doesnt matter how far people are willing to take it, and again, i said you got three options, state law in new york, georgia, or federal law. Jesse so if they do threaten to expose this guys identity or address, you will have people descending on this guys house, making phone calls, harassing him. Thats dangerous. Greg the other danger that cnn should think about is that they are justifying the same actions against themselves. The press has for the longest time been claiming an exemption. They are in a special class. Like, we do gods work and we cannot be threatened by the president. But, we can threaten you. You cant threaten us. Now, all bets are off. When you do some thing, its like, you do that to me, im going to do that to you. If cnn had still not explained why they withheld information based on conditions about behavior, thats the problem. Jesse so, dana, they say in their statement, they were transparent about the guy coming forward because they wanted to make sure that there was no deal. Does that even make sense . Dana i told mike i wish i could go back in time and be in the room when they were crafting the press release. The cnn p. R. Department has had a really rough couple of weeks. People who have been under the gun for a long time, if youre at the white house, you feel that constant pressure. Just stop hitting yourself. Youre making it worse. Jesse could you imagine if cnn goes down for a fake video . Juan i dont think theres any way. I think kimberly is right. Its not going to happen. But whats striking to me is when you see politicians like ted cruz get involved, you know that the right is delighting. Kimberly dont you think hes kind of jokey . Juan i hope hes joking. But we are doing an additional segment on it. Jesse if he likes her story, that means its good. Juan when you have this guy, who says that he goes online, participates, greg Pay Attention to me. He participates, and he got a kick out of using the n word and calling people nasty for being jewish, because he wanted to get a reaction from the other side. He was doing this, but he didnt really mean it, thats not who he is, hes really a nice person. He didnt mean to incite any violence against anyone. But this is bad behavior when he goes online all the time. If youre mad at cnn, why are you mad and talking about the start . Greg it doesnt matter, because the meme exist independently. Nobody owns that reputation, because if trump retweets that meme, he has no idea about the stuff. By the way, they might be wrong on who the person is. So the whole story falls apart. So you say, ted cruz is going after, delighting in cnn problems, we have had that same problem. The left loves it when fox news is in trouble. Believe me. Juan this is an eye for an eye. Its a fools errand. Jesse an eye for an eye, lets not talk violence. [laughs] jesse a former millionaire, a former gitmo detainee, a killer. And an apology from canada. That obscene outrage, of next whoooo. Youre searching for something. Like the perfect deal. On the perfect hotel. So wouldnt it be perfect if there was a single site where you could find the right hotel for you at the best price . There is. Because tripadvisor now compares prices from over 200 booking sites. To save you up to 30 . On the hotel you want. Trust this birds words. Tripadvisor. The latest reviews. The lowest prices. Kimberly johnny cash. 2002. He pleaded guilty, and later apologized for his crime. All i can say is im sorry for the pain that i caused the families of the victims. Theres nothing i can do about the past, but i hope that the future, i can do something about the future. Kimberly so why is canada now apologizing to him . The country made khadr a multimillionaire after his lawyers argued his rights were violated during his interrogation. The lawyer for the widow of the medic that he killed is trying to get the money transferred to her and to the other u. S. Soldier that was injured. This is a story that, when you hear about it, you almost cannot believe that its real. Greg they claim that he made a guilty plea under duress. Well, arent they all . This is why, generally, why people are for the Death Penalty. Because, theres no guarantee anyone actually serves out the sentence. At least with the Death Penalty, you know its final. There may be a possibility that the guy can get out and get 10 million because canada didnt defend him well enough. More people would be against the Death Penalty if they actually trusted the sentences, if they knew they would be completed. I dont know what hes going to do to make up for, to kill less people. Kimberly hopefully we wont get to enjoy. Before im baffled by this. I understand that he was 15 when he was picked up on the battlefield. There was a soldier who died, theres another who is blind. They dont get anything, and the canadian government giving this guy 10 million, it seems like im baffled by the use of taxpayer dollars in canada to do Something Like this. Especially when he was picked up on the battlefield. We were just talking last week, how are they allowed to come back . Why are we allowing him to come back if he traveled to go fight with isis. You come back and complain because you cant get a job . This is insane. We have to fight this fight in a way that allows us to win. Kimberly its awful. And his father, with a known al qaeda terrorist. None of the less, what they say we got to give this guy money for loving and killing people. Theres something seriously wrong. You wonder why all these terror attacks are happening across the world, because of the permissiveness and the lack of regard for human life and inciting on the wrong side.