hillary's laugh [ laughter ] [ laughter ] [ laughter ] >> love that. but when in crisis, the war on women is hillary's one hit wonder. it's eice ice baby. what they must play at fairgrounds to remember her. it's old, it's a lie, and exposes the truth about hillary's own war on women. remember women working for hillary made 16 grand less per year than men from 2002 to 2008. her defending women is like termites defending wood. but now she's conflate the horror over baby harvesting with a war on women. a lie. but if fetuses can't vote who cares? now she says the e-mail scandal is all politics. this from a clinton, a creature so political she sneezes saul olinsky. she claims she didn't note e-mails were classified. but if you didn't note gun was loaded why would you wipe it clean and throw it in the river? exchanging national security for personal secrecy is not just calculated deception but entitled, lawless arrogance. now get this. we find that hillary's e-mail firm was run from an apartment with its servers in the bathroom. it all makes sense. her campaign is literally in the toilet. >> all right. jesse, as always a pleasure to see you in that fine suit and blue tie. >> thank you very much. >> you think the war on women will work? or will the electorate finally see through this? >> well, i'm very excited to have possibly a female president. i think carly fiorina would do a great job. and if there's a war on women, i don't want to win. if you think that men are dominating american society, well, you guys go at it. >> i saw you say that last night. >> we'll kick back and we'll stay at home. >> i saw you say that last night on "water's world" you said we're kind of exhausted. >> you can twist this around pretty easily and you've done it well. hillary's had a war on women, all bill's mistresses have been smeared relentlessly. she took donations from countries who treat women as sex slaves. i don't care about the war on women. i'd care about planned parenthood's war on babies. i think it's easily dismissible. >> it is, kimberly i think she's desperate. this that is last arrow in her quill. is that phrase? quiver? don't listen to me. listen to kimberly. >> yes, please exactly. she's running out of time. this is become k like a "saturday night live." where was the server? it's in the bathroom. where the drug dealers go to like flush the goods when the cops are doing the raids. you can't even make this stuff up. i mean, right? i think women deserve a better representative than hillary clinton. and that's what i'm saying out there. why do you want to check the gender box unless it's of exceptional quality and integrity? choose better. >> you know, juan, i don't know what you can do with this point. when the server is in the toilet. that's usually clinton's problem. >> oh, wow. >> what would you tell her do? should she apologize or just deny deny deny? >> i think it would be smart if she somehow addressed this in a convincing manner. the problem is for hillary clinton once you get the fbi involved it enters into a realm where the public is like huh, this is serious business. this not some right wing conspiracy. plus i think lots of people have always felt that her behavior was entitled and tear gaarroganu said. that's not good. but i will say this. the danger for republicans is what i'm hearing at this table which is overreach. when you hear people like michael mukasey say three felonies or other people calling for criminal investigation. you know what? we don't know yet. i mean, slow down, guys. it's not time yet. hold on. because you're making yourself look like you're politicizing it when hillary's created her own problems. let her suffer. >> maybe that's a good point, dana. let this thing draw out instead of getting really aggressive up front. >> every day for the last two weeks there's been a new development. today we find out that platt river networks in denver but they had the servers in the toilet in new jersey, there's just a -- i think it's actually good to have a little bit more information. if i were her team i'd say, how do we wipe this issue clean? how do we get -- >> you can't. and a double flush isn't going to do it. >> wiping the server in the toilet. getting very grim. >> very clogged. >> less fiber. here's david egg ignatius on "morning joe" what the officials think about this. >> you have to remember we just had a cia director david petraeus one of the most decorated generals in our modern history who had to plead guilty to a criminal charge involving this question of unauthorized use of classified information. it's not a trivial issue. >> i think what's always made people in the national security community nervous about the clip tons they seem to play by different rules. i think it's that sense of disrespect for the system that's animating a lot of the anger now. >> that was stimulating, jesse. but what he's saying, she's treat k this as a trivial matter that other people treated very seriously. >> she might have to start shopping for pant suits with prison stripes pretty soon. i think the only people ready for hillary are federal investigators. look what happened. petraeus, okay? he had classified information at home. and he gave it to his american biographer. >> who also had a clearance. >> yes. hillary had classified information, also at home, and she gave it to russian hackers and chinese hackers. most likely. i think that's worse. >> you think? >> it goes to the point she doesn't care about e-mail security or embassy security. she doesn't care about border security. and we're supposed to trust her with the codes to the nuclear football. what is she going to leave anytime ladies room? seriously. >> it's a residential apartment. in colorado. this is the secretary of state, kimberly. i know juan thinks i'm overreaching. but she should go to jail! >> it's awful. and believe me, if it was someone else of a different political party or persuasion, trust me they'd be in cuffs already. i'm not kidding you. this is to me unbelievable. people can still just say we're just going to vote for he. let her make snap chat jokes when national security is at stake. she's she is not running for class president it's president of the united states. >> and commander in i think what david ignatius is getting at, the marine that sent an e-mail that had classified information to warn other people in order to protect them and their safety. she was actually trying to protect herself. >> right. >> he is actually at risk of losing his entire career. she's about to be dominated as the democratic nominee for president of the united states of america. you want to be commander in chief and have the respect of the troops? i think what juan was saying can she answer this in some convincing way would be better than making snap chat jokes. but she's already made the snap chat jokes. how do you take that back? >> the problem with david ignatius said, she's very different than david petraeus. >> why? >> he's a wonderful guy. but he gave this to his lover biographer in a very self-serving manner and put american classified information at risk. hillary clinton didn't give it to anybody. she want doing anything. >> private server at her house, juan. >> she had a private server. that's the mistake she made. the mistake of feeling entitled and arrogant which is what it is. >> in one of the reports -- >> that's not a crime. >> satellite imaging that goes from a classified server, copied somehow, gets onto her unclassified server. that is absolutely a problem. but guess what else? layered beneath those images is how we get the images. how we design them. all that metadata stuff. you basically have to rework how you do satellite imaging because that is now compromised. >> why do you think the russians and chinese are running circumstance else around us? because they probably already know everything that was in hillary's server. >> wells donald trump, let me just tell you -- >> are you going to take that, jesse? >> i consider it a compliment. >> that's right. he does consider it a compliment. >> he's like say it again, juan. one more time. say it slowly. >> oh, donald you. but anyway, i'm just going to say that secretary kerry says he this the chinese, the russians, they he read his e-mails as it is now. put anytime context. admiral kirby said yesterday this is about classified doesn't mean it's like top secret going to blow the lid off. >> doesn't matter. doesn't matter. only the president decides what's classified. >> about 5% of all -- with thousands of e-mails. >> i will grant you that the government overclassified a lot of information. >> absolutely. >> that doesn't allow you, however, the right to skirt the law and say it doesn't pertain to you. >> that's what i said. i agree with you on that. >> if dick cheney was at the center of this scandal, then the media would be in a total meltdown. >> there would have been a public execution already. i mean, honestly. >> absolutely. >> it's a total double standard. >> how is it a double standard? >> the point is she gets a pass for things that acts that are committed that are illegal, reckless disregard for national security. >> when you have something illegal come to me. but you have nothing. >> we don't know if it was illegal, juan, because she destroyed the evidence. >> here we go. >> what do you mean? she wiped the whole thing clean. scrubbed the gun. >> apparently the server people say we may have backups. >> remember sandy berger that got caught stuffing documents? >> to protect who? >> bill clinton's hide from the 9/11 committee. >> who are the people running the server? what do we know about them? were they ever sued for fraud? i wonder. >> how did they get the contract? >> exactly. i mean, how does somebody again in an loft apartment in colorado get this contract? why this person? >> you don't just wipe a server clean by accident. you are instructed to do so. >> they're going to have a record of that. they're going to have a record of the date, the time, and who requested that the server be -- i'm telling you somebody is going to take a fall. if i were uma and cheryl mills i'd be like running for cover. >> i think hillary. i think it's no longer -- >> but are going to sacrifice someone why? >> because it's going to metastasize. once they start turning the screws to her inner circle, we already have the obama state department now trying to white want e-mail classifications, they're stone walling. not responding. >> this is where you get in trouble, jesse. >> trickle out. >> keep going. next you'll say we can't trust loretta lynch at the department of justice or trust jim comey fbi because we can't trust barack obama and now we're into right wing conspiracy. >> we're not saying that. >> everybody says -- >> you trust the clip tons that's where you're at. >> oh, no, i didn't. i just said the clintons were guilty of arrogance. >> guilty of influence pedalling over at the clinton foundation. >> i think they should stop take money at the foundation. i think she should turn the server over earlier. i think all of that. >> and stop obstructing justice. that's a nice charge. >> how is she obstructing justice? >> destroying evidence. >> she should argue that her private server was more secure than the government and she could bring up snowden. she prefers small businesses. she prefers the mom and pop. >> wait a minute. you're on the wrong side. >> i prefer the mom and pop over the walmart. >> the other side is doing so poorly he's trying to help them out. >> we've got to take a break. more on clinton's 2016 troubles ahead on "the five" i can't wait. so you think this chip is nothing to worry about? 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i think the republicans -- >> shall we give them rand? >> give them four or five of our candidates. they can have them. and we probably won't even notice the difference. >> especially if it's the donald. >> oh, juan. >> let me ask you something, kimberly. >> i was always the one given. >> really? >> you were the last chosen on the kick ball team, too? >> so mean. >> you can have a participation trophy or ribbon or something. >> we'll give you something. kimberly, bernie sanders? he's been running strong, right? i mean, surprising a lot of people. but he has yet to attack hillary clinton on the main point on which she is vulnerable, which is trustworthiness and this whole issue, for example, of the e-mail scandal. is he afraid to attack her? >> i think it's too soon for that. >> why? >> right now he's trying to sell himself. he's doing quite a good job of it making inroads in new hampshire and in iowa as well. let him keep going, getting in front of people. he's amassing large crowds, stirring up the base. he's going to let the wheels continuing to come off the bus or the scooby-doo van. if i was another candidate i'd wait to jump in later too on the democratic side. whether you're al gore, john kerry polishing already, shining the nobel peace prize he's going to get for that bogus iran deal. or you're biden waiting to go get in after a midnight swim. wait until she continues time plode. then they get to step in and pick up the pieces. in the meantime bernie sanders is already hurting him. >> juan, do you hear that in democratic circles? are they actually worried? >> no. >> the material is all here. >> look at the latest fox poll. she's actually farther ahead of bernie sanders now than she has been in the past. and bernie sanders starts attacking hillary clinton. >> isn't she losing in new hampshire? >> she would be in trouble with the people. he gets these big crowds who come out, right? those people are far lefties. you're not going to make friends there by suddenly attacking hillary clinton. he's just got to say she should move farther to the left. >> what do you think, jesse? >> i think biden might get in. the only problem is biden has to grab like a black lives matter placard or maybe say he's a socialist. because right now you have to be so fringe. that's where the energy is right now is in the far left grassroots fringe. and biden just doesn't have the money to compete. he's too white. just as white and old and mainstream as hillary. and he's -- he's actually dead broke. and the only thing keeping a lid -- >> you mean versus hillary. >> the own thing keeping a lid on the cooks on the democratic party right now is the clinton machine and their money. when the wheels come off and she imploeds you're going to see riots like '68 at the convention. people are going to be coming out of the woodwork, ambushing the stage. it will be nuts. >> will you be there? >> going to clean up. >> your pop collar? >> i was listening thinking is he talking about the republicans? >> no. you guys were the riots, juan. >> the far right and the cooks and all this? i was thinking is he talking about the republicans? >> that's not nice. hello, your children are republicans. >> what can i -- they have a mother, you know. >> what does that mean? >> hillary's decline, she is a victim of the obama hangover. how is she going to repeat that inspirational orgy of hope and change, the seven-year party? everyone's exhausted. it's like the left is so -- >> like they got to go home. >> they're so overly invigorated that it's impossible to stimulate them. >> it's like burning man. okay, it's done. >> that's right. hillary's not going to stimulate anybody unless she laughs and cackles like that. >> so it's last call. >> yes. >> all right. ahead judge napolitano has some news for donald trump about his deportation plan for illegal immigrants. part of it may be unconstitutional. that's next. it takes a lot of work... to run this business. but i really love it. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes, i just don't eat the way i should. so i drink boost® to get the nutrition that i'm missing. boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. all with a great taste. i don't plan on slowing down any time soon. stay strong. stay active with boost®. when you do business everywhere, the challenges of keeping everyone working together can quickly become the only thing you think about. that's where at&t can help. at&t has the tools and the network you need, to make working as one easier than ever. virtually anywhere. leaving you free to focus on what matters most. nobody's hurt,but there will you totstill be pain.new car. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do, drive three-quarters of a car? 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