If a spy wants you to steal files from work all he has to do is dangle that brief affair you had with a llama back in 87. We all have skeletons. Some belong to llamas. At some point were going to have to declare stigma amnesty. If something bad is leaked about you or me lets just ignore it. Because its going to happen. But we punish no one for such bow avenue yors. We publicize sewn yous hacked emails. Joked about Jennifer Lawrences hacked photos and elevated to hero status a wonk who gristed 900,000 documents from the pentagon. We dont follow spying because were too busy attacking ourselves. Christians bakers Washington Redskins hobby lobby. These are the identity spats that china thanks us for. While petty divisiveness distracts us we lose track of yet another real adversary, race gender class, as we quarterly over identity someone just stole all of ours. But hey, if a cop had done it maybe wed march. Kate im going to go to you first. Its been awhile. How are you doing . Im doing well. You look great. Thanks. Thats enough. Kg this story is an amazing story. It is. There are no good pictures of computer hacking. So nobody really cares, right . Its true. So for television we need things like video and photos. We have no pictures. Heres hacking, guys this is what it looks like. Yes, there it is. Im glad that were covering it. I guess well talk about the details here. It is a serious thing. Intelligence officials are saying this is the worst it can get. Were talking about 14 million people. The government of course said it was only 4 million people. Were not just talking about Social Security numbers. Were talking about information about your family maybe your friends, who you know. So the information that they have now they know who youre associated with. And the other thing, too, is that they were warned about this happening. Yes. The government was warned a year ago. Hey, you might want to put in some encryption codes to prevent this from happening. They failed to do so which implies to me that as a whole our government has gotten really complacent when it comes to national security. We live in a world now where American Government officials and especially the leadership think that the world is a nice place and we dont have to really worry about protecting ourselves against enemy that is do exist. Theyre just the chinese. We work with them all the time. We dont need to worry about them. Essentially while were worried about the things happening at home were ignoring the fact we still have very serious enemies around the world. And now they have all this personal information they certainly will use against us. To blackmail. In a very bad way. Yes. Eric may 2007 a v. A. Employee left his place with a government laptop. Bush got blamed for that because it had all these patient records. Yeah. This is amazing. Is it because its president obama that its not as much press . I think its big. I think theres going to be press. I think once some of the information starts to leak out what they have like the sony hack when we started reading the actual emails everyone wanted to talk about it. The pictures obviously everyone wanted to see. Theres breaking news greg. Al sharpton is organizing a march in d. C. Hands up dense act. Mayor deblasio has decided to talk to his son. Hes warning him about offensive or aggressive chinese emogis. Chinese are all going to resign because theyre worried about al sharpton blowback. Heres the thing. Defense wins championships. A good offense is beat by a good defense always. Were so busy aggressively going after other peoples stuff in some cases americans innocent americans, that were not fighting the fight defensively. Put the walls up. Get the better walls. Theres no reason the army web site should be hacked. Theres no reason 14 million americans have information as katy points out, not just their Social Security numbers and phone numbers. Their personal lives are being outed now. Everything they do, whether they drink, wheth which doctors they see. Youre right, greg. This is the absolute lotto for spy information. Theres going to be massive bribes going on yes. Because John Shindler is a really good writer on daily beast said that this will go out there. One theyll be going after our Counter Intelligence agents. Lets say our spies are doing something. They will have stuff on our spies. Because they went through the security checks. So they cant spy anymore because theyll be blackmailed. Did you ever see the american . Yes. It is a good show. In that show they do stuff like this. They get information. Its the basis then for which you turn the spies for the other country. So thats potential here. But to your larger point, i think if we had a movie made about it greg like the interview we could get more attention for this story. We just need some stars and racist emails like the ones that sony had. Yeah. Or if you had, how about credit card numbers . Now, here every american would start screaming if this was target and the idea was hey, somebodys going to get my credit card number and go shopping for kimberlys white dress. Then people would be really like wow, thats a good idea. The one im wearing . Yes. Its on me now. Interesting point. Target ceo got fired over that. Should president obama be impeached . Yes i think so. Six minutes into this show. My gosh. Thank you for that layup. All right. Listen. So heres the big problem. Its the chinese. Theyre very, very good at this. Do we know for a fact its them . Oh, come on. Let me tell you something. This is really funny. The administration wouldnt say who did it right . Yeah. So guess who said it . Who . It was harry reid just says oh by the way the chinese did this. Susan collins backed him up. If harry reid hadnt like why wont they point the finger . Are they afraid to point the finger at china afraid of retaliation . Yes. Because if the United States retaliates china has said any retaliation by the United States will be considered an act of war against china. So they are sort of pinning us back like this. And its a problem. They do have one of the most effective cyber warfare units in the world. Only maybe the russians can beat that. No were good. We spy, too. Okay. You know whats they have . Our debt. Thats what they have. They cant do anything about that. They play games with our debt they would screw themselves more than us. But heres the question. Why are we always worried about other people . Okay. So we have a good offense. We have a lot of information probably on the chinese, the russians whoever else is spying on us. Why dont we build that defense . Why are we so vulnerable to all these correia, china, who else. Any comers can find the way in. Breaking news chinese hackers are responsible for this. I just was told that. And Sensitive Information on military personnel. Which is a huge problem. They always target u. S. Defense contractors, Counter Intelligence officers. Theyll put this in a compromising position. They steal all our seekcrets. The Nuclear Submarine information, they stole and copied our technology. Its embarrassing. The problem is, you guys, isnt this really caused by Global Warming . Isnt president obama correct that the number one threat is Global Warming . Because Global Warming heats up china. China is building islands, greg. Thats a threat, too. Theyre creating Global Warming by building fake islands in the ocean, okay . I had no idea. Heres ian bremer on i guess fox and friend right . Or fbn discussing the threat of china. I think that the greatest danger and threat to the United States in the world today is absolutely coming from china. Its not isis. Its not whats happening in iraq. The fact that you have the largest hack against the u. S. Government in history. And it took us four months to be aware of. Is something that should be concerning every single american. What are going try to do, of course is blackmail a whole bunch of people. Find out who was most vulnerable to cash. Whos most vulnerable to selective information that they can turn against the United States governments. I mean every government tries to do this. The point is that chinas going to be so much more effective when theyre empowered with the kind of information that the u. S. Never dreamed theyd actually have. Only solution to this vise amnesty. We can all be black mailed right . Yeah i mean. He looks innocent. Shouldnt we have some kind of vice amnesty . Im onboard. B . Bolling is ready to sign up. How do we know for sure its china . Im going to say the problem with eric is that llama. Yes. That you were talking about earlier. It wasnt a llama. The administration should be watching the five when we call them out not pointing the finger at china they better get in front of it. The fbi director said oh, gosh there are two kind of American Companies. Companies that have been hacked and companies that dont know theyve been hacked. Right. That tells you everybodys been hacked. It makes me think like when im on email and sending a lovely note to you, gregory. I have got to watch myself. Especially with your little pet phrases for you. My emogis. What about that point . Bolling baby at that time . He is babe. In terms of what we dont know. If they can hack into a personal database run by the government that has all this information, what happens when they hack into the electrical grid . Or when they hack into the Transportation System or the system that runs the airplanes . Terrorists after that. You dont think chinese want to do that . They want to dangle the information and say here well trade you. We wont go public with this but you got to tell us whats going on. In the long term if it gets ugly they have that card. Theyre after patents, which companies are reporting. What those are the things. I dont think theyre looking to blow us up. Maybe not today but down the road they certainly will. The iranians i would say absolutely. If the chinese sell that information to anyone else then were screwed. Theyre already for sale on the dark net. Im so sorry to tell you. Dark net . Is that some kind of hair product . You people should keep up. Catch up. For your roots. I know what dark net is. We used to worry about msg. Can the government pick your neighbors . Ahead well discuss a plan that just might do that. When youre living with diabetes steady is exciting. Only glucerna has carbsteady clinically proven to help minimize blood sugar spikes. So you stay steady ahead. Ugh heartburn no one burns on my watch try alkaseltzer heartburn reliefchews. They work fast and dont taste chalky. Mmm. Amazing. I have heartburn. Alkaseltzer heartburn reliefchews. 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Tena®s unique superabsorbent microbeads lock in moisture and odor, tena® available at target you americans want the government to micromanage every aspect of our lives. President Ronald Reagan certainly didnt. I think you all know that ive always felt the nine most terrifying words in the english language are, im from the government and im here to help. Well, hes so right. But president obama feels otherwise. Did you hear about his new plan to force wealthy neighborhoods to diversify . Proposed regulations would use grant money as an incentive for communities to build Affordable Housing in more affluent areas. Congress woman mia love grilled hud secretary about it yesterday. The Obama Administration is moving forward with regulations designed to help diversify americas neighborhoods. Thats not the way that im thinking about it. Its not the way were thinking about it. How are you thinking about it . I know that as a mayor you wouldnt want the federal government coming in to tell you what to do with your zoning laws and your rules. Because you have more skin in the game. This is not about changing zoning laws or planning laws or anything like that. Who do you want to believe . Everyone who wants to vote for mia love raise your hand. Bolling, you dont change the zoning laws but through money. Were going to offer you Affordable Housing money, give you money if you put up Affordable Housing. There are a lot of groups or mayors might say hey, i need the money. I have budget deficit so i have to do it and they do it. Doesnt matter what the Community Wants or where the money comes from. The federal money comes from federal taxpayers. Half the people. So the people who are working paying their taxes are put into the system so that Affordable Housing could be built in neighborhoods that they probably live in that they may not want so they pay a premium so they could live where they want to live. And you end up with just another massive redistribution of wealth. That is what mia love was trying to say to Julian Castro who apparently wants to move his way up the Democrat Party was taking the other tack the socialist route, more of the same of obama. What do you think, juan . Im just amazed at the response to this. Because i think this i good policy and good sense. I just think that what we have is zip codes in this country that determine everything. And in new york city where you guys live i think you have things like group homes. I know id have one in my neighborhood in washington, d. C. Do i think, you know why i do want a group home with ill people in my neighborhood . But you know what . I dont think thats wrong. And i dont think its wrong to say that schools in this country are again determined by zip codes. I dont think theres any question that if youre talking about getting jobs transportation matters. I know in some neighborhoods in washington, d. C. And in new york city no theaters, no movie theaters no good restaurants, no parks to go play in. So the idea you would encourage this doesnt seem like communism to me. Everything you just said is correct. But when the government sees a poor area its solution is to move the poor out. No. It doesnt address the problem that is you just mentioned which is lack of an educated labor force. Right. And a local population that has no purchasing power. Those are the things that you have to address. The only way you can address is is avoiding the social engineering moving out and trying to create some kind of free market idea to get businesses there. We talked about this awhile ago. The island . No. An amnesty. When immigrants go into the worse neighborhood and they fix it up they should become citizens. I think when you save place. But the problem is then you see immigrants saving cities. In baltimore. And you see 40 korean groceries get burned down. Right. They still go in there. I think the answer is an amnesty act people working to become citizens. Go build the city. Moving the poor out to places where they may not be able to live there because they cant afford it. Youre setting them up for failure. That to me is not an economic model. Wouldnt you rather if it was you and your son you had the opportunity to live in a decent place . And then the schools, the education, the shopping . Youre absolutely right. Work hard to make sure thought happens. I dont understand whats wrong with that. Thats the point here. I mean this policy that theyre trying to implement by the way has been in the works for a couple of years now. This is coming to fruition in the next month but theyve been working on this for a couple of years. This is a cop out for bad liberal progressive policies. What i mean by that is look. This is social engineering just like weve seen over the past 50 years in places like baltimore, st. Louis, detroit. Weve seen how this works out. And it doesnt work out well. The way that you empower the poor to be able to live in those neighborhoods is not to just move them and give them something, give them the neighborhood. You have policies that allow them to get out of the neighborhood permanently and afford that neighborhood through hard work. The thing about what Julian Castro has been saying in part of his testimony is well we need kids to be able to have access to good schools. Okay. Then why are progressives youre not, juan but why are the majority of progressives against School Choice . We could fix that problem very carefully. The bottom line is that when you are handed something instead of having to work for it you dont respect it as much. Thats exactly what weve seen in cities. I grew up in section 8 housing in brooklyn. And ive heard Lindsey Graham say the same thing about down in South Carolina how he and his family got out of a bad situation when his mom died. There is another alternative. If you want to use liberal speak and call the money thats being used you know how liberals turn things around . Talk about business incentives to lower income communities. Yeah. The same money thats good. Instead of building housing in a wealthy neighborhood. Some under the market which will drop the market for everyones hous