Since fwooe, sposhtding to 2003o an Infectious Disease threat. And on the other side, some people are not happy with how the government is handling the crisis. So the ad, to me, it obviously is one of dpes per ration, the democrats figure out no time trying ing ting to hel themselves, to launch an ad like that is, one, provably false and it tries to take the heat of the democrats like harry reid. If they were so concerned by didnt they six months ago say something. The ebola threat is not new. And the president was on the defensive in august. T Health Care Workers across the world and at the u. N. And Doctors Without Borders says that the United States has been very slow to act. We have to be in to the lead, wes are the Global Leader. The democrats are mistaken something. Mother nature is in charge, this is mother natures world and we have to live in it, and we have to try to manage it. His comments today led to an nbc headline that we need to rethink our ebola infection control. Just last week they told us not to worry about anything, and i want to trust the cdc, because like i said, i dont think we have a lot of choice. I got to participate in a Global Pandemic exercise, i did, it was very fun. Its fascinating to see how does it happen, how does it spread, what do you do to keep everybody calm and keep them informed. The cdc is playing a little bit of catch up and are reassuring people. Mother nature, a bit sexist. We are now living in an age of pestilence and all kinds of horrors. I have to say, this is ideology as a sport, its not just the democrats did this with hurricane katrina, and remember how bush killed all these people. But at the left its nick perry and the sequester. But at the right, its president obama anyway, so this is it is the different sides of the same coin, we are both guilty of this and we should probably avoid blaming people for tragedy. However, however, the left is better at it because they have had more practice with katrina and also any disaster happens to be our fault because you link it to Global Warming. Because if youre a Global Warming skep 9 11, isis is our fault, because of the middle east policies. The left has a tendency to blame people for thing that are out of control. But blaming budget cuts is absurd and its disrespectful to the tiny percentage of that money going to building facilities. Its not about funding, its about being the responsible use of the funds. Im going to get to jesse, and then bob will talk about the midterms. This really is cut right out of the midterm playbook. The republicans are racist and the democrats need more money and they need it right away, and theyre going to spend it weisly th republicans want you to die. Lets look at what they actually said, they said theres been cuts, the nih, under president obama, spent 1. 5 million on studying obese lesbians, obese lesbians, now all of a sudden they dont have enough money for ekboel la. And the rest was spent on bike paths and neutering pets. The cdc budgets up actually 10 over the last 10 years. I will quickly respond, i find the fact that the republicans are jumping in saying the government wasnt prepared, its the same people who said that the government must be much smaller. Why dont you have a better government response to it, theyre the same as frying to take government apart. But i dont take much into it. If i were the democrats, i probably would not play with this issue, but lets face it, this stage of the game, they need something in the form of a hail mary pass, each states responsible for their own health care. And the only time the cdc is supposed to get at this, is if its a foreign invasion, but texas is responsible for texas, and obviously rick perry and the Texas Health Board has not done a very good job. You got that talking point for joan walsh. Obama basically had this in front of him, making bush and the clinton administrations, they both had a buy dwroe terror because the aclu pressured him, he got rid of regulations saying thatthey could quarantine guys on flights and could report their status to the cdc. He got rid of that. Actual republican regulation. Im glad to see youre now against cutting jobs in the government and in the regulations, you think the regulations is bad too. Bob, a billion dollars in the cdc funds, they spent a billion dollars of it. And a government they always will say more government, more government, and they look the prioritization that they put the highest premium on and then they create cuts. Why do they have the street lamps study, at the centers for disease control, why would you have a street lamp study . Why do the republicans think that government ought to be more involved in this when theyre so much against government involvement . Because believe it or not, we actually do care, because it is our money waend dont want it to go to obama eels cronies, maybea could have gone to a vaccine too. The money could have gone there instead of there. But the fact ask, im a guy whos money goes to the government and i would like to see it actually go to something thats worthwhile. This is from usa today, Washington Bureau chief susan pages is chiming in about midterm elections, obama and ebola. Both the stories, the ebola virus and the threats from isis are feeding into a sense that a lot of americans have that the world is not only a dangerous place, but that the government is not competent to handle them. Thats a very serious situation for president obama. I think its a big problem in the midterm elections. They couldnt protect the white house from a knife wielding man running in, they couldnt protect a cia compound in benghazi. No one trust this is government, especially as compounded by the fact that the president , whenever there is a screw up, uses incompetence as a defense. You know what . 8 of the country distrusts the federal government. Dana . If you look today at the gallup poll that came out that looked at the top five issues people are considering when theyre heading into the midterm, in the top five, for the first time in a long time, republicans lead in Public Opinion as to what would do a better job. The first thing is the economy and the second is to vote on ebola in particular, they might factor the response of ebola into their thinking as to who would do a better job of governing and does the president need some sort of a checks and Balance System like divided government, will that lead them, the few independents left, will that i dont have a picture but ill try to put it on my facebook page. Remember i did that fundraiser for the africanamerican academy, theyre in like beer yarks theyve got this mirror, the school is shut down by order of the government. Theyre trying to do everything they can, a Faith Based Organization to keep everybody safe in the middle of this epidemic, where people are dying every day. I understand in america, its serious, but people want to realize that these are living on the line that they are that is happening as we speak and they dofbl have anything that we have. They dont have equipment, they dont have any way to feed themselves. Those countries are d disintegrating and i think that the United States has an obligation to help these countries. The problem here is the perception that if the president is in a car, the president is behind the wheel texting instead of keeping his eyes on the road. He didnt say isis or ebola, he said Climate Change. We have a president today, a president tweeting today on Climate Change, also tweeting on minimum wage today, see in really isnt the priorities of an administration, its a priority set by a teachers lounge of glad stool activists. But its true, the things that they care about, are things that belong in an elitist institution, is not what america is worried about. There is just a difference here. I mean, i happen to no, i agree. I happen to believe that Climate Change is the single biggest threat to our country. Jes jesses points, theres about 100 of them. You try to be well prepared talking to jesse wallace. To the extent susan page stumbled on one thing. And people expect the government to protect them. And every time you have a case like this, it does according to the administration, lets also keep in mind, we have got three cases in the United States and we have 318 million people. We all ought to get this off our top story line and to where it belongs. I want to pullup with that picture from the African Dream academy. Lets put faces with the story. The picture from the African Dream academy. There it is. Go on our website, they actually try to keep it pretty up to date and theyll give you some real time information on the ground. A very good discussion, fantastic. Next on the five the white house keeps saying that brown troops arent going to be necessary in the battle against youre going to hear from the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff coming up. Stay with us. Ah come on lets hide in the attic. No. In the basement. Why cant we just get in the running car . Are you crazy . Lets hide behind the chainsaws. Smart. Yeah. Ok. 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Go to fit2me. Com and enter the onscreen code word to get started. Isis issed a zransing more than two months since the air campaign started. Theres conflicting messages. Theres no military commanders either on the ground or here in washington that the United States put in Ground Combat forces into iraq. The president has been very plain, that this is not a campaign that requires or even would benefit from american Ground Troops in combat again. But the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff says likely yes. Would we will more effective against isis if we had u. S. Troops on the ground spotting targets . There aremosul will be the decisive battle. My instinct is that that will require a different kind of advising and consisting because of the plexicomplexity of that. There are enormous contradictions in the u. S. Strategy that are becoming more apparent every day. Lets start with iraq, the iraqi army is in no better shape now than when it collapsed. In syria, there are men on the ground. There are some kurdish militia, we are backing them. Why not give yourself, if youre the white house, give yours a little wiggle room for some flexibility, if it does occur to them, if they all come together and better than anyone else. To not be able to learn from their mistakes, then were in a position where we play catch up. They should have done this to begin with so we shouldnt be in this situation. They wouldnt be taking kobani. We should be making more specific targets, increasing the air strikes, and the only way you do that, its like trying to tie your shoe with one hand. You need the other hand to help out, to say put the loop right here. Thats what it means when you say put some intelligence troops on the ground to tell us exactly where we need to be hitting so we can actually hit more of these militants and actually bomb the ground and were slowing them down because they had to make a right before they made a left into baghdad. We need to be patient here, the pudding is still in the uvening, it hadnt had enough time to cook. You see additional pressures, and also possibly in baghdad. Does that do you still think the pudding is the right mix that we have got in the oven . What we did was, as our want here, we edited out the most important thing that general dempsey said that was we dont need troops there at that point. You should be head of the joint chiefs north to have it. But right now the military is saying they dont know what they were doing. I didnt say that the military dont put words in my mouth, i didnt say that, i said that the strategy is la lacking in specific ways, i love our military. What i said was what general dempsey said. We says we dont need it. Kobani, they have been pushed back by about 10 kilometers. And the airport, this is the most ridiculous thing, there was a group of them that came within eight miles of the baghdad airport. Hes not reading this stuff or seeing this, because bob, you would know these are inaccurate statements. This was a joke, it will be over. And look, were still talking about it. I know that they have got the forces gathering at the delawarenew jersey border. If they decide if they were to authorize some sort of special elite forces to go in after baghdadi, that guy who runs isis, like osama bin laden. There already are boots on the ground. I dont understand why they box themselves in. The only strategy is to win, then you have to work backward from that, and basically thats going to i believe its going to mean invading troops on the ground, you drive them into a certain area, and then you nuke the hell out of them. If you want to lose, you can work back from that and you will find the current strategy, which is confusion and fear. If you dont want to win, then you should leave. The only way that you can can win, if you want to win, my fear is that the administration has what i call american derangement syndrome, all of our white houses actions are derived by our sins of the country, and they have a fear of going into these countries and doing the business that needs to be done. They suffer from an intolerance phobia, which means theyre going to look mean and insensitive if they do the right thing, what theyre doing the air strike karaoke. Maybe it will be better. But the fact is youre going to have to go in there and kill them all. You could talk about anything that you want. How about that . But three things going wrong with the strategy hire, one, these modern rebels they basically said we quit, they dont have afternoon alliance. All you guys are doing is helping assad. This Iraqi Military that we poured all these billions of training and money, theyre basically cutting and running. Theyre leaving humvees for isis to take, its ridiculous. And maliki leaving, they were going to stand up the iraqi army and then third, these afr strike, this was supposed to degrade and destroy. Now theyre outside of baghdad. And it takes an nbc news guy to say obamas strategy is failing. Just outside of baghdad, really . Yeah. Uhhuh. Hes been following the news all day. I dont think its funny, bob. I also would like you all have no idea, when i have no idea, there are people on the ground, they are targeting why are we suggesting that the white house is holding back the air force from dropping bombs . I dont think so. Youre saying right now were being just as aggressive as we should be. You dont think we could be dropping more bombs, flying more sortes why dont you tell the air force that, if theyre getting it wrong. Including panetta and all these guys are saying were doing it wrong. Everybody look at my unicorn and take a deep breath. Just when you think theres nobody that he says obama has been the most consequential president ever. Movements. Get healthier gums in two weeks. Innovation and you Philips Sonicare save when you give Philips Sonicare this holiday season. In between throwing on aluminum fill fats, krugman goes on had this idea that obama was going to bring in a transformation of america, i thought was being naive, we got Health Care Reform, we have got significant final reform. I think of my ranniking but fact, bill clinton was not a consequential president. And obama is a consequential president. And captain crazy is riling. Obama is indeed the most successful leftist ever. Enabling a country to experience the consequences of unbrideled government expansion in its purest form. He plays a sixth of the economy in government hands, hes shifted millions of americans into dependence zone. Further atrophying the muscles of initiative. He recast everything he wanted, he got. A domestically divided, noble the result, every single democratic candidate who might lutz in november. So, yeah, when you consider mr. Obamas achievements, they can be described as staggering, much like how our country is now. So i think krugman is right, that obama is a consequential president and he got what he wanted . I wouldnt agree with you on that, ily even liberals would agree he hasnt gone as far as they would like him to. He says environmental legacy. He oversaw the bp oil spill. The guy put solar panels on the white house. He stuck a i dont think thats an environmental legacy. Financial reform. Thats part of the president s big legacy . We still have too big to fail, bush was the one that bailed out the banks, no one went to president , and the stock market is doing great, but main street really hasnt felt it. And lastly, obama care, is he serious . This guy lied to the American People to you could keep your doctor, hospital, and Health Care Plan and then he took it away. The trillion dollars that was added to the deficit, i cant believe this guy even put him ahead of reagan. If he got it passed, he got a social program passed, thats a big deal for a left winger is to get more government into your life. He started a big tax reform, which the government could have gotten done. He chose Health Ca