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Some who have offered to do so, but we are not looking for that at this moment, anyway. A former vice chief warns air strikes wont be enough while a former cia chief predicts that reality will result in special forces on the ground by years end. The only way we can think about destroys isis in this particular strategy is that the forces on the ground will have to do the destroying. I actually think were going to end up with small American Special Operations Forces, active in this broad theater, both iraq and syria. I do think we get to about 5,000 by the end of the year. What if thats what it takes to get it done . Does anybody have an objection with that at this table . I do not. You do not . No, and i also think that i have some sympathy, or i think empathy is a better word for what the administration is having to do. Theyre juggling a lot of complex situations, probably of their own making. But now that theyre in it, when youre a offered help by some of the arab countries, you dont want to advertise that. I think that the administration could focus and rally the nation around 5,000 special forces troops. That is not an invasion of a country, thats not 150,000 troops on the ground with all of the support teams that have to come with that. I think that 5,000 special forces, if thats what it comes down to, thats not what the administration is saying, thats what the former cia chief is saying, i just think that the Administration Even after this weekend ask looking very wobbly in its description. Its just not clear what theyre doing. I understand theyre having to walk some really strange lines, but even today you had a state Department Spokesperson contradicting the secretary of state on whether or not the United States had engaged iran. Thats whats giving some people some pause, but overall i think they could get support for that type of mission as they described. Okay, go ahead. I think theres really troops on the ground, start saying ground troops, because boots on the ground is incredibly irritating. I dont think our country is war weary, were obama weary. I think we know our troops could eat isis for lunch, theyre just worried if obama is going to give them the knives and the forks. I dont think theres any problem that those guys are going to go in, they signed up for it, they know thats what theyre going to do. And thats what theyre trained for. We got to talk about the New York Times article that was over this weekend where obama had offered his advice that he would give to isil, which is please dont behead them, instead pin notes on the hostages chests, with a stern warning. I dont know if you saw that article over the weekend. So this is a president that thinks isil is responsive to warm cool advice. I got news for the president , they dont read dear abby, they behead dear abby. This betrays s fundamental cluelessness. Whats next, a kind paperless post to isis, please engage in war, not terrorist tacticses . I was going to say that i think were dealing here with a group that i ha the beginning when they were not, when theres nobody there to take them on, they did pretty well. Now theres people taking them on, they have not done so well. They havent gained an inch of ground since youve also got isis, not an army thats had a long history of command and control. So you dont have a well disciplined group of people. Theyve got a lot of weapons, theyre mean, theyre nasty, theyre horrible. But the 1tn question s are they trained effective combat force and that i have doubts when theyre faced with a combat force. Im going to use your words and im going to ask eric foley. And they said they have not advanced. That sounds actual practice of containment. That is very different from defeating isis. Okay, true. But whats the rush . We have been there for 13 years, right . Lets try this air campaign. Look, they beheaded one british aid worker, isis, they said the next ones going to be another british aid worker, and cameron says were not ready to not even put boots on the ground ground personnel, were not even ready to get involved in the air strikes. This is the thing, we have plenty of time. These are cockroaches and we want to kill them all, theyre absolute pieces of garbage, and we will get them. Why dont we try the air Campaign First . Let me just finish, we can continue to help peshmerga, because theyre the kurds. We can continue to help the iraqi boots on the ground, the iraqi troops already. We can do all that, two arab nations said they would be ready to put troops in as well. Were getting a coalition of the willing who may or may not show up or not. But lets try the air strikes. This 160 air strikes in the past 35 or 38 days is a joke. We did 140 sortes the first day of desert storm. This is a lot different. Its really not. We know where they r we have this outlined area, how many maps have you seen that the Syrian Border is gone. Northern iraq, southern syria, thats where they are. Lets month bomb them. You dont think if we had the targets to bomb we would bomb them . Yes, youre going to send 150, 200, 300, 400 air strikes. But in this case, youve got to pick out specific places to bomb. And its not just something you can carpet bomb an entire area. Theres a lot of civilians. Youve touched on a problem thats a problem for us and our allies is the lack of intel. I understand the u. S. Tried the rescue mission for the hostages that was not successful and by all accounts the trail has gone cold. So we dont have intel and we also know that the terrorists, isis is listening to anything that our leaders say because in the most recent beheading over the weekend the narration, references something that David Cameron of the uk said last week. So we know theyre paying attention and theyre listening. Third, in order to make sure that these air strikes are successful, you have to have people on the ground, whether its the iraqis or the kurds that are telling the u. S. Where to bomb, or we might have some friendly fire situations that we dont want to v. The challenge seems to be to infiltrate and disrupt these groups. But now youre faced with a media who thinks that somehow its wrong to spy. And so now youre challenging, youre challenged by an enemy and somebody who doesnt like your meths. And to interrogate. And to interrogate which is wrong. Now ill go back to evening lapped. And this is important for us. The reason why england isnt sending anybody, because its hard to send people when youre broke. Its a consequence of a country buried in debt. Were turning into fight guys who cant fight, or we cant swing because were so mired in our own domestic programs and debt that we cant afford to win. Im going to show cameron im sorry. Lets just take a look at this. I want to get it in and get everybodys reaction. The british Prime Minister David Cameron, these are his thoughts on isis. We will hunt down those responsible and bring them to justice no matter how long it takes, they are not muslims, they are monsters. We have to confront this menace. Step by step we must drive back and ultimately destroy isil. This is not about british come pat troops on the ground, it is about working with others to extinguish this terrorist threat. All right so the mighty uk is relying on the United States. Because theyre broke. Lets give the uk some credit here, they have been with us every step of the way and every war we have been in. And theyre facing election, and the election is not going the craziest radicals are in england, the guy whos doing the beheading. I understand that, but for the british public, the idea of them seeing britain spend that much more money as you point out, when they cant get money for their schools, thats something they can get money for their schools, theyve got so much money for their domestic programs. Britain has completely starved its military in order to pay for a welfare state that they cant afford. Im scratching my head. Were as much of a welfare state as britain is right now. Not quite yet. About eight ye n away. Were 8 trillion in debt, were going to be 20 trillion in debt. I would make the case that were at least as broke as Great Britain and give obama care a couple more years and we might be even sooner. You know what president obama did in the New York Times article that you referenced earlier . One thing he was able to do this weekend was unite all of us against france. One of the things thats very difficult for president obama and Prime Minister cameron is that the United States and uk policy is to not pay ransoms for hosta hostages, and apparently what obama said in his meetings with journalists and other Foreign Policy ministers says that france says that theyre not paying ransoms, but we know that they are. And thats why its difficult for obama and cameron to toe the line. Thats why they should have announced this coalition before they said they were going to form a coalition. Now it looks likes we cant even form a coalition. That looks bad because its looks like we cant form a team. But one of our team members is undercutting us. Because its cheaper for them to pay for the hostages than be all in. You remember when france refused to allow reagan to overfly in order to bomb libya. The french have a problem, they have too many muslims in paris and they know it. Right now in france, the latest poll has isil more popular that were their french politicians. R cameron says theyre not muslims, theyre monsters. Why cant they be both . Yeah. We know the muslims. This is jihad against everyone who doesnt believe in it would be nice if we could get even more support from the uk, but this is what happens when you cut your military funding.  gets beheaded . Then do they sigh we support the United States, not only do we support you, were in this with you . That would help. If you keep looking for someone else to do the job, get out. And we got out. I think the domestic political situation in britain is not like france in terms of the infiltration and the immigration they left unchecked for a long time. Now they have terrorist cells all throughout the country and their Intel Community is very, very good. Their cooperation with their Law Enforcement is good. But i think that makes it harder for him. I think i understand why from a political stand point, theyre not muslims, theyre monsters, because one theyre trying to build a coalition of arab states to help them fight isis and also they have a political situation, all those local communities that have very heavy muslim populations that they have to continue to serve and basically to passify. Which is amazing, the fact that there will be some muslim countries involved in this. I think politically, thats the most dangerous thing you can possibly do. They allegedly have two that are willing to actually put this place in arafat. To cooperate in a way that they should would be meaningful and significant. Just to give the uk credit, their s. A. S. Forces have been on the ground with our special Operations Forces from the beginning, so what they do have, they are giving. Next on the five theres another campus effort to silence radical islam. Gregs got the details coming right up. How much money do you have in your pocket right now . 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How open minded, a breeze could julial their thoughts. Now at yale shes supposed to speak. But 35 muslims its on their face book page, i read it, it wasnt bad, but i couldnt find anything there on isil or isis, or whatever were calling it that way. That i doesnt stand for islam, the students calm what they call hate speech directed at those who attacked her. However words did not hurt her, men did. Which is my point, if what ali says hurts feelings, who cares . Shes not throwing acid, not slicing up faces, shes talking not terrorizing, and she refuses to sympathize with student resentment over here. Its absolutely repulsive that as horrible actions unfold on this globe, students target words not deed. I would say grow up, but that would be hate speech. Bob, i understand that these groups dont like christy ali because they believe she equates the radicalism of which she speaks to islam. But cant she speak out against injustice and maybe engaging her . Is there one person besides her who is more controversial . I dont think so. She was already knocked off of gra grandice. She does not heres a woman who was 5 years old, was mutilated. She goes up there, she says these things, if youre a muslim and youre listening to her, she does have a tendency to make broad general statements about the religion, which i think she ought to maybe think getting a speechwriter help her rewrite it. But that doesnt change the fact, the fact is she should be able so spoke. Radical islam sees women as less than equal, they hate gays. Shouldnt these yale progressive students be focused on that . Theyo which should be completely Tarrant Mount to what they preach, hypocrites. Have we seen any, maybe its not a fair question, because we havent. There are no protests on campus against isis or isil . I havent seen any kind of like its scary, and the public support, what do we say 91 of the American Public believes isis or isil is a threat. By the way, isis or isil, can we just pick one . I understand that the administration, i think the Cameron Administration is using isil has a to defer to isil, because they started with lavonne, they wanted to stay with lavonne. Now theyre saying iraq and syria, now theyre saying islam state. Can we honestly just pick one and maybe why arent young why do you have to disparage the Puerto Ricans . What . Menudo . Thwhy dont the academics co down hard on them . Dana, im going to throw a clip up here. The way to get a world of peace is to get the ability of young people to learn how to think critically. And i know that my cousin, the husba Muslim Students at grandice, its embarrassing, whatever they call it, it is controversial, but i thought thats exactly what universities are for. We send our kids to school so they can be co with ideas that they are not comfortable with. Thats the mostdana, you tal you met her. They dont want her there because shes controversial. What a gift for all of these students, you get to go and w l listen to. People pay good money to go and listen to someone like that, shes elegant. And she also has this inner mease and serenity. Which i think a lot of young people are looking for. Theyre looking for some sort of a balance and she actually has found it. The other thing s think about what nancy pelosi, the former speaker of the house said about republicans this weekend. The republicans are an endanger to civilization. How is that any different than what hirshi ali says about the muslims. And we just laugh at them. Come on, thats more overreach. And you saw this at yale a little bit over this week, they started to push back against the Muslim Students and said we want her to come and speak, you guys can have a different meeting room if you want, but shes coming here. And there was a yale professor, a commuter science professor who wrote to say how ridiculous the Muslim Students were and they should be grateful that they have someone like here speak. They are not saying she shouldnt speak, they were presenting their resistance to it. Afterwards they wanted to be able to have equal time. Like some sort of debate. Where they can get up and they can correct all of the things that she said was wrong. Thats why you have facebook. Iowa got a visit from Hillary Clinton this weekend. Was it a visit back to the campaign trail . Next on the five. [ male announcer ] automotive innovation starts. Right here. With a control pad that can read your handwriting, a widescreen multimedia center, and a headup display for enhanced driver focus. All inside a newly redesigned cabin of unrivaled style and comfort. The allnew cclass. At the very touch point of performance and innovation. At the very touch point of performance and innovation. 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