While president obama has said that he will not allow a caliphate to be established in iraq and syria can we with confidence say Current Operations are all thats needed to beat back the threat. Thats in question. You need a truly global strategy but how are you going to deal with Something Like this. The pentagon says it will take ten xx years to deal with isis. Why arent we arming the kurds in syria. Why arent we bombing in syria. Were doing cosmetic stuff that wont solve the problem. The white house said troops that go to iraq wont engaging combat. If its smart to limit our response that way. Lets listen to this. American forces will not be returning combat in iraq. The president has made clear American Military action in iraq would not include combat boots on the ground. I think the key point here is that the u. S. Forces, the role of u. S. Forces is not one of reentering combat on the ground. Why would we as the United States if the threat is so large as chuck hagel was saying from the pentagon, if its so big, why would we limit our troops in any way when they are there to fight the terrorist . I suppose if we can blame isis for Global Warming then president obama might take it seriously but hes continually telling our enemies to keep going. Even if its true were not going to put troops down there you dont tell them that. This philosophy my sense is the great strength that america has is our military is perceived as a detriment by our president. Its a flaw. That has been, i guess cultivated in his life as an academic, as a progressive, the greatest thing we create happens to be the thing the world hates us for. Hes like a little man scared of his own big dog. His distrust of our greatest asset is helping to create a terrorist state. Its frustrating. Here you have hagel contradicting what president obama says. I mean this administration changes their tune more than a jukebox. I cant keep up with what they believe in. Somebody that just left the administration, eric, is general michael flynn, he was heading up the Defense Intelligence agency from 2012 until recently. He did an interview and basically criticizes the approach for the terrorism fighting approach and he said that we knew that decapitating leadership is not a good strategy. Deok de decaptation is a bad idea. I go back to the point that the 9 11 commission made. First time in a decade they did a report. They said were now more complacent than we were before 9 11. Do you think that the response is proportionate to the threat thats being described outside of the white house. I dont think there is a response yet. The 130 advisors that he sent there on the mountain right now arent going to be the final response from the white house. I would think that wasnt the case. That said, can we just talk a second look, can i point something out about chuck hagel. Hes at the pentagon in a polo shirt. Camp pendleton. But still, he was a little low key on this. If you want to stir up people and change the debate away from president obama calling them the j. V. And talk about what isis is and that is blood thirsty murderers get animated about that in my opinion. Lets talk for a second whether or not we should put boots on the ground. Theres one thing we definitely should do. No one will dispute that. Up to 30,000 yazidis up on that mountain. They are starving, they are dying. There are credible reports at sky news reporting that parents are cutting themselves so their children can drink the blood because they are dying of thirst. They are literally dying of thirst. What we need to do first and foremost worry about the military openings later. Right now were humanitarians, get a bunch of food and water and medicine to those people and well work out the rest of it in the best way possible. But first things first. I read a story about a woman who was rescued and how did she survive her milk run dry and she coaxed a goat to allow the baby to suck on her. Were trying to be humanitarian. Is there anyway or what do you think the United States should be doing to try to counter balance what is not just the physical aspect of fighting terrorism but the psychological one as well. Its begun already. Even some of the muslim countries are beginning to speak out against these guys. They are obviously afraid of them but they are speaking out against them. I dont think they are nearly the organized force that al qaeda was. I dont believe for a second they pose a threat to the United States. We do what we did in balkans. We do it by air power and beat them. We beat the serbs who were pretty tough guys. The idea of us this guy that was cosmetic for a news cycle taking out artillery batteries is not cosmetic. The pentecost said what they are doing now will not have an impact. Lets keep in mind, again, you have to have a military in iraq who is going to be there willing to fight and they dont have it yet. In the meantime kimberly some of these isis fighters that were trained in syria have western pass ports. How concerned do you think we should be when, i think thats the point greg made. You have the pentagon, the Defense Intelligence chief, other intelligence officials saying how dire the threat is and the white house says its jv. The white house understands how big but i dont understand their reluctance to calling what is it. They misjudged and miscalculated and hoping this storm would pass after the midterm elections and wouldnt be in a position of compromise. Now they sit and they have to own it. While the death of Osama Bin Laden was cathartic it was only the beginning of a new chapter on terrorism. Thats what general flynn is trying to get this administration to understand. This fight is now, its real, it cant be postponed, were otherwise derelikt in our die tis. Bob i disagree with you. This is a much more serious threat than al qaeda ever was. Ill listen to the experts that know. Theres a lot of experts who say the opposite. We just finished playing the longest war in history. You dont give up. This is their sustenance. This is what pumps through their blood every day. They wont stop until they see the destruction of the United States and western way of life. But these two angles are correct. The philosophy which i think is part of the white house philosophy is you dont exaggerate the power of ghouls by paying attention to them because that makes them seem larger than they are. You dont have to romantize the terrorists. The problem with the administration in the last six years or so, obsessed with internal problems within our borders so the external threats have been ignored for so long. Obamas eyes pro life tea partiy is an imam with hooks forehands. He believes in hope and change and therefore these things can fester and grow until you see whats going on in the hills. You know whats an interesting compromise. A lot of people say lets not get involved in another ten year war but there are other ways of doing it. There are other ways of pushing back isis without the United States actually putting up 50,000, 60,000 troops on the ground. Theres 100,000 kurd troops you can support. You can go back and retrain, i dont know refocus the iraqi army. They have to have confidence that were going to be there. Hear me out for one second. 300,000 people in place in position trained against 5,000. Against 10,000 with the right focus hopefully lend them a hand, give them the assistance they need, give them the money and aid and military might. Let them fight it. Let them do it. Then youre not the infidel killing fellow muslims. Cockroaches expect to be killed. They know they are nasty. When you dont kill them they are confused they excited and populate and breed more cockroaches. Snuff them out while you have a chance. Youll regret in the future. Like we did to arm the kurds and we didnt. Then they have to come again begging for us while they are getting killed and genocide is happening on the mountain. We know better. This is not gaza. Its not a place where hamas can hide in the school buildings. We do need to increase our bombing of them and we do need to increase special forces but theres no reason for us nor is there a possibility of going back in and putting a whole lot of soldiers on the ground and starting over. The iraqi army we could be beaten by a straw man army. Our will is being beaten by a straw man. No one is going to put 100,000 droops on the ground. I know that. Why are we sitting back here and not blaming the iraqi army. When you have up to 20,000 foreign fighters with western passports trade by assads fighters that have become i didnt say it, chuck hagel said this is a force and dimension that the world has never seen before and it actually does have a direct impact on us. Do you believe it since its coming from him. Imagine working for the Defense Department under president obama. Its the least attractive priority in governance him. Its like running the tofu stand at the county fair. Nobody is coming to you. Youre alone. He should be running a pc and not a country. He has the soul of an i. T. Worker. His ambivalence energizes these guys. These guys, 5,000, 10, those whatever they have the will. We dont have the will because we telegraphed it. We should take them out. 300,000 iraqis and kurds dont . We left too soon. When they see the bombs coming down we have their back. Without that they might feel defeated. Another option. You know how the iranians want to green light their stupid Nuclear Ambitions with power. You want the green light on that. You come down you come down you want to talk about isis getting a signal if iranians said isis enough thats it youre done here. The iranians would then they could have it because they support Abu Bakr Albaghdadi because they want more of a bargaining chip at the table with the United States. They might get it. Wouldnt thabt good deal . I dont think a deal with iran, no. Blame isis for Global Warming and youll get the epa, all the celebrities will be out. Be out marching. Yoko ono will lead the charge against isis. Its true. Coming up thats a visual. It really is. Okay. Coming up on the five something much scarier than shark week a threat greater to us all than what swims in the ocean. Greg will have us on our toes next. Going back to the fastest seven minutes in news. We have a hot block today. Three hot stories. Seven minutes. First up this video is awesome. Check it out for some dumb reason the Dallas Cowboys and Oakland Raiders held a joint practice yesterday in oxnard, california where gangs live. Police were present just in case the gang bangerz got out of control. It wasnt the gangs that the cops should have been concerned about. Behold, boys being boys. [ expletive ] [ expletive ] oh, my gosh. You start it. Go ahead. I mean this is no surprise to me. I grew up knowing one thing dont date an oakland raider. They are the bad boys of the nfl, no good can come of it. This is what happens. They always draw the most penalties the whole deal. Theres two sides to everything. No raider nation for you. They are a bunch of beefs and acting like a bunch of idiots. Are you selfbleeping. Thats wonderful footage to run because they are all idiots. Dana, go ahead. The thing is i dont want to copy you because i wrote down boys will be boys. I was thinking about how from february to now theres been no football really and so i kind of miss it when it goes away but then oh, here it comes. Days will get shorter and then cold. Good idea for sunday nights your crock pot. What if we did a practice show with someone from msnbc. Would we end up in a big brawl. Yeah. Is it necessary to brawl during a Football Game . Its like snacking during dinner. I mean you dont need it. I have to argue with you on the raiders. 1976, stabler, hendrix, tatum, upshaw, egan, the greatest Super Bowl Team ever. Idiots in all football. Y my fallon is crushing out late night. Check it out. Accurate observation about the similarities between Hillary Clinton and program. Next up its height for hillary its 57 for president obama its 2009. After that biggest inspiration, hillarys is john f. Kennedy, obamas is that guy in the corona commercial. Personal motto Hillary Clintons is 2016 cant get here fast enough. Obamas is ditto. Still that was not even mean. The sad thing is we flock to these bits like geese after steal bred crumbs. We know once theres a republican in the picture 2016 all the sniping against the democrats will stop. Isnt there a lot of comic material with Hillary Clinton between bill whoever comes up against her will get it. Theres so much comic material surrounding republicans, i mean you couldnt miss. It writes itself. Because democrats are so perfect. Compared to those idiots. Compared to obama. Most incompetent president. Oh, come on. Yes. Incompetent. Thats totally nice. You like jimmy fallon. I still love jay leno and jimmy kimmel. Do you think hes cutting democrats slack . Still. How about this one. Robin williams death left a big gaping hole in the hearts of many. Check out how the late night coming who ever walked the earth did. We miss robin and lucky to have him at all. We like all of you were shaken up last night. You watched him and you would cry laughing. He was like mohamed ali of comedy. Five years ago i went through a bump in the road. Out of the blue, Robin Williams buys me a bicycle. Hes the first person to buy me a bicycle since my parents bought me a bicycle. So often i would look at that silly bike and think what a wonderful spirit. So heres the question. There was a lot of coverage of Robin Williams when he passed. There was a lot of coverage the following day. Theres a smattering of coverage today. Are our attention so short by tomorrow nobody will cover Robin Williams. It will go a little longer. In the midst were putting up with in the world this guy brought laughter. Laughter is an incredible smooth its one thing we need more of. The sad part of it is to know behind that laughter there was somebody who was very, very sad and depressed. I tell you, like i said yesterday, princess diana, john lennon, Robin Williams they all deserve that much those are the three big ones. Dom delouise. The debate going back and forth did he kill himself because of money problems. I dont believe that for a minute. I dont believe that for a minute. I dont think anybody in his family knew him well. He was rich because he had tremendous generosity of spirit and humor and went out of his way to make people feel better of themselves. I worked on a number of charities with him. I thought he was great. To meet him was to be inspired by somebody who is always giving back. He is the pope for comedians. Hes the guy that shows up when he shows up everybody stops and hes very friendly. Its devastating to those people who influenced him. Have to be careful about extravagant tributes. Copy cats. I feel bad for his children. Anybody in the wings . No. He was oneofakind. I like the story that conan obrien told. That one story about a random act of kindness when somebody is down like to do Something Really Nice for them. Thats something we should keep in mind once in a while. He was wildly creative. All right. Ahead dr. Ben carson warns looters in missouri from jumping to conclusions before they know another night of unrest in ferguson, missouri after a black team was shot and killed after a confrontation with police on saturday. The identity of the officer who shot 18yearold Michael Brown is still not being released and ben carson is cautioning rioters not to rush to judgment before all the facts are out. How can you possibly even understand how these parents feel. But at the same time, we also need to recognize that police are individuals too. They have feelings also. And we need to hear from this police officer. We need to understand why did he decide to shoot to kill instead of shoot to stop. Thats what an investigation is for. They do a shooting investigation. They will put together a murder book, find out whether or not any charges should be filed and thats the job of the investigators to do this and determine whether or not it was a valid shooting meaning accidental and not some kind of manslaughter, homicide, et cetera. A couple of the facts surrounding going on now. There was a group that leaked the name and phone number and address of the chief of police of ferguson, missouri, his family is all nervous now. They are getting Death Threats as well. Honestly dr. Carson is right lets wait and see what happens. If theres something wrong that happened then prosecute. Eric holder has announced hell take a look into it as well. So, well get the facts. But in the meantime looting and rioting is absolutely plainly stupid and shouldnt to be done. This is just so far out of my experience and expertise that all i know what to do is trust the authorities, whether that be at the Justice Department and the attorney general and also the Police Officers. I agree that no one wants an escalation, but i just have to believe that the Police Officers are trying to handle the situation as appropriately as possible right now. Greg . In matters of race you can always count on the media to make it worse. Every talking head thats asked to be on a show has to come up with a position or they wont be on tv shows. The culprit is us versus them machine as if every issue is mandated by law to have two sides when there might be five, there might be ten different sides. Why do i have to pick a side. Why do i have to say im pro police. Why do i have to say im with the protesters. Why cant i say we need calm and justice. Thats all you have to say. This is the reason why we saw so much crap with the Trayvon Martin stuff people need to fill the buckets of news with information and it gins up more outrage when you in fact you can say why does it have to be them versus them, wh