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FOXNEWSW The Five August 7, 2014

The National Journals ron is warning overreach on immigration would be explosive for the country. Hes been a polarizing president. This would be a nuclear bomb that would blow open, that makes this country more divided in a way most americans just dont want. Charles krauthammer thinks thats exactly what the president and his party may have in mind to help them stay in power. I think this is impeachment bait. They really know it would be such a violation of the separation of powers, that it will raise impeachment talk. I think obama is cynical enough to plunge us into a constitutional crisis, to gin up the vote, to bait the republicans into impeachment, as a way to save his party in the midterm elections. Is that what the president is doing, bob, baiting republicans into impeachment . And possible overreach . And then a constitutional crisis because he thinks it will help them . Listen, the democrats used the word impeachment four times as much as the republicans, for good reason. The last time they tried to impeach a democratic president , they got 20 times more. It happens. But look, what is this about . The immigration thing is he believes it strongly, so do i. You cant get the thing through. Its also a good voting issue. Once again, the republicans will figure out a way to get no hispanic votes and well be laughing all the way to the bank. Before i move on, the democrats really believe its a helpful issue for them . The democrats think this is a helpful issue for them. Do you really think the latino votes in the midterm is going to be enough to the latino vote is always so low in a midterm election, if this gins it up 5 or 8 , it will make a big difference. Eric, if the president does use executive action on immigration, what do you think republicans should do . Do you think they should impeach . No. Yes, you do. No, i really dont, bob. I never uttered the word on this show or anywhere, because its a deadend game. Everyone knows how it goes. Send it over to the senate, they say, all right, goodbye. Heres whats going on. We have three months before the midterm elections. This immigration issue isnt about the midterms anymore. This is about 2016. This is about obama ginning up the base, getting the democrats worked up over immigration so they can run out in 2016. Its brilliant. Hes playing Team Baseball right now and hes doing well. I think its too late for the senate. It looks like all arrows are pointing towards republicans in the house, republicans in the senate now, probably likely going to flip the senate. And thats honest live, thats good. I think obama is going to try and do Something Like executive order, 5 million illegals that hell say are kids, meanwhile theyre not necessarily kids. Perfect setup. Joe biden calls them our kids, these illegals. Take a listen. These are not somebody elses kids. These are our kids. These are the children that lift the National Ambitions of these countries aloft. Its a tragedy for the countries who are losing them. And for us not being able to solve every one of their problems. They are all joe bidens children. We all are. I thought we were all obamas children. Oh, no, thats the wrong story. Okay. I think president obama actually wants to do something very consequential. I think the base of it. In 2007, when he joined with harry reid to deny a comprehensive immigration bill from going through, and then he was running for president , i think that he was elected, believing that he was going to do some major things. Get america out of the wars in iraq and afghanistan, provide universal health care, nationalize the health care system, and solve the immigration problem. Hes looking at a clock that the sand is running out of the hourglass very quickly. He realizes hes got to do it. You can imagine the pressure from the latino community, from his base, and also the competing pressure of understanding youve got the problem with the midterm election. I dont think hes so much worried about the midterm election, and i think there are democrats that wish he was, i think president obama is thinking of this as a much longer game. I also believe at some point, i dont think he was elected to make choices, i think he was elected to persuade people that hes got the right ideas. One thing that would really help is if we could come to a definition of amnesty. Because its such a moving target. Anytime somebody says maybe we could do this, that then becomes thats the new amnesty. If we could have a floor that we all agree on it, the debate would be a lot more satisfying, and polls might change. They might work against president obama as well. That would be okay as long as were debating on the merits. All it takes is one republican to talk of impeachment. Thats all they really need. Nobodys talking about impeachment now. The democrats are talking about it. So it does seem like a trap, like theres something up for republicans. There will never be a floor. Thats the whole game. They will never agree to anything, because thats the lie. If you believe in a border, in what Vice President biden is suggesting, then you have no compassion. If you use this logic, in every sense of the word, the fence around the white house is a hate crime. You should never have locks on your apartment. You should not lock your car door at night because thats bigotry. Acting unilaterally, because he believes thats what people want. Its like that American Idol contestant whos convinced he a great singer, because none of his friends have the guts to tell him he sucks. Right now obama has no idea what hes doing, but nobodys telling him what hes doing is awful. Can i state the obvious, too, about yesterdays press conference. Hes boring. I mean, thats his secret super power. If he was a super hero, he would be monotony man. He could literally kill you with his words. Hes a soulless bureaucrat. And he only comes to life with his chosen people which are the fundraisers. Everywhere else hes an aspiring test pattern. Mcconnell is boring. There are republicans who are boring. Its a good question. This is the challenge for the republicans. Christies engaging, rand paul has a sense of humor. But they havent found that guy yet for their side. You were right about that, i forgot obama posed that immigration bill back in in 2007. Because it wasnt comprehensive enough. Isnt that what they said . Because it didnt go far enough. On the lefthand side. One thing about the compassion point that joe biden is making. I wonder if theyre just wearing on americas nerves, because its hypocritical. Is it true that the Central American children are our children, but the syrian children are not . Are the children of mosul who are being targeted by isis in Northern Iraq, are they not our children, too . What about the girls in africa . Are those our children as well . They are, according to the selfie diplomacy, bring our girls back. Theyre technically our children. They selectively play the compassion card. And i think it doesnt win them any hands. What about republican children . They are not actually, they would love to take care of and have control of everybodys kids in this world. Can i ask you about a strategy . What i think republicans should do . I think if the president acts on executive order, i think they should let the courts handle this one. I do think the law is the way to do. If the courts find him in contempt of court, let obama try to defy a court order. But in the meantime, i think if the house were really thinking, theyd be sending a bunch of bills against that executive order. Harry reid wouldnt bring them to the floor. Let senators like Mary Landrieu defend that. Good luck. First of all, you said republicans are thinking. Thats an oxymoron. You used that incorrectly. I did . Yes. Sorry. The other thing, my problem with the compassion, i love joe, but its inner city blacks who are also saying, what about us . You remember the series of things we saw with the when people were saying, what about us . Thats right. I said that to juan. I said, why isnt the left coming out against amnesty . Theyre going to lose jobs to the chief labor, that other folks are going to take. Its actually going to hurt those. Theyre not going to take but the unions feel the same way, right . They know that the people who are doing these jobs wont do it, they wont get people to do it. Thats why they keep theres always a wedge issue. It was in 2006, you bring up a good point, greg, in 2006, the unions were so antiimmigration, because it was taking construction jobs away from their workers. I think they probably got a deal with the white house that if we get this bill, lets roll all of the illegals into our membership, because thats the Biggest Issue facing the unions. Eric, what do you think about that . What do you think about having this come crashing down on Senate Democrats before the midterms . Let Mary Landrieu stand next to harry reid . Everyone is running and ducking for cover. Every democratic senator in a race, they dont want any part of president obama, either, before the immediate term elections. Theyre distancing themselves. Joe biden, theyre our kids. The difference between the syrian kids and the boko haran kids, all you have to do is arrive here and you become an american child . Surely you dont agree you know, what i dont understand is, honest to god, there are 11 1 2 million illegal people in this country and youre worried about 6,000 people on the border. I think thats hurting president obama, the complaining of the two issues. Two months ago, the white house said, we have a humanitarian crisis on our border. With the new influx of the ones that came this summer. But then they also, in the same sentence, talk about the 12 million who have been here for 20 years. Those two things are not the same. In 20 years they could be the same. I think conflating them is basically wearing people out. Theres a real worry about more comprehensive legislation that no one reads in congress. Unfortunately i think theyre at an impasse. Everybodys going to be at an impasse. That my electorally work in their favor. I think it might be a lame duck you said that last time. The last lame duck you said that, too. Ill say it again. August messaging, too, it sounds like the Republican Party is going to be talking about overcrowding in schools, bankrupting local city budgets. I think thats pretty smart to do that. As dana points out, this compassion argument, it doesnt seem to be bearing out in the polls. Americans are saying, what about my kids . Whats the most disturbing part of that poll . 70 . 76 . Believe that their children are not going to be better off than they were. So essentially what they were saying is, the American Dream that they believe in is dying. The problem is, if you come from an ideology in which you believe the American Dream hurts others, then seeing the American Dream die makes you jubilant, to see the American Dream, you want it contained, quarantined before it spreads to other countries. You dont like it. Lets keep in mind what this poll says. Overwhelming, almost 90 of the republicans think the kids ought to be sent back. Ill tell you, i think you guys youre right, it may be getting a little more than the people want to listen to. In the end, from my standpoint, republicans continue to figure out a way to drive the hispanic votes away and go ahead and do it. Youll never elect a president of the United States its been youre admitting a point, putting politics before the country. I am. Who is going to care for these children . Theres illegal Immigration Solution to it. Just literally triple quadruple your Illegal Immigrants and guess what happens, bob why republicans dont jump on this, i have no idea. It alleviates the opportunity for democrats to say, youre antiimmigration, arent you. No. Well do it legally. No question. Next, breaking news in the middle east. Hamas has just issued a new threat to israel. One terrorist appeared on tv to deliver it. Erics got the details. Sean hannity, youll see some of the interview with Benjamin Netanyahu exclusively, up next. Life reimagined gives you tools and support to get the career youll love. Find more real possibilities at aarp. Org possibilities yourturn night into day. Ng. Conquer the globe. Stop floods. Now she could use a hand, so she can keep living on her own. Comfort keepers can help you help her. Our professional caregivers are carefully chosen and highly trained to provide a variety of Inhome Services while truly engaging with your aging loved ones so they can stay happy at home. Comfort keepers. Keeping the comforts of home. Call Comfort Keepers now to learn more. There is breaking news on Fox News Channel. Im shepard smith. The New York Times is reporting, and the pentagon is flatly denying, that the United States has just carried out bombing raids in iraq. Heres what the times is reporting. American military forces bombed at least two targets in Northern Iraq today to route islamic insurgents who had trapped tens of thousands of religious minorities in kurdish areas, in the north of iraq. Word of bombings occurred on kurdish television, came as president obama was preparing to make a statement in washington. We have every reason to believe, but we have not yet confirmed, that the president is planning some sort of statement. Kurdish Officials Say the bombing targeted fighters in syria, who had seized two towns. Residents who had fled the areas by car were honking their horns in approval. Thats the reporting of the New York Times. The pentagon has flatly denied and just sent out a statement, over twitter, press reports that u. S. Have conducted air strikes in iraq completely false. No such actions taken. Anyone whos been with us throughout the day knows that the situation in iraq has been deteriorating, and quickly. Over the past 24 hours, tens of thousands of people have been trapped in the mountains in the kurdish north. These are christians and other religious minorities there who have run from the fighting on the ground. Remember, the kurds have a very welltrained and very wellorganized fighting force. They ran out of ammunition as these Islamic State fighters were coming toward them, and they relinquished two towns. Theyre now, as were told, on their way toward the town of erbeal. The religious minorities have been trapped up in the mountains. Some 40,000 people are there, and those 40,000 people are said to be in extreme danger and expected to die in a matter of days if they dont get food and water. We know the United States is considering air drops. We have president ial decision on that said to be imminent. Whether that will happen or not, we cant yet know. Of the other problem is here, in the city of ver beal on this map, this is mosul. This is mosul here and this is erbeal in iraq. This is where many of the United States military forces who have been sent over as advisers are conducting their operations. Isis is on the move in that direction. Theyre very concerned about our u. S. Military personnel there. And the thinking within the pentagon is, no o confirmed this, that if these forces from the United States get in some sort of trouble, that there might be some sort of air strikes. One other thing, these Islamic Forces have taken over the largest of its kind just near mosul. Their great concern is they could either flood many areas with a 65foot wall of power or cut off water and power. A lot is happening in iraq right now. The headline is, the New York Times reports that the United States has carried out bombing strikes in two towns in iraq, and the pentagon has flatly denied it all. Updates when we get them. Im shepard smith. We have other breaking news tonight. The 72hour ceasefire in the middle east expires tomorrow morning. Now theres word that hamas may not agree to extend it. The Terror Network said its ready to resume a long war unless its demands are met by israel. A spokesman listed the demands on arab tv today. Insisting a block ade against gaza be lifted. Quote, our fingers are on the trigger, and our rockets are trained on tel aviv. Israels Prime Minister is warning this great battle must be stopped now. Heres a clip of the interview. In this great melee, this great battle, one of these militants, in this case the shiite militants, backed by iran, sponsored by iran, if they have an Iranian Nuclear umbrella, if iran can intimidate the u. S. , we bring the history into a different threshold altogether. Its not a spin. Its not a win. It is a clinical diagnosis of a pathological movement that is sweeping our area, but will soon come to a theater near you. It has to be stopped, now. So the rest of that interview is going to air tonight on hannity at 10 00 p. M. Hamas saying were ready to fire, and netanyahu saying, you better not. I mean, to say those are the conditions, theres no way. No way israel is going to lift the blockade on gaza. Its a play on their part. My assumption is, if theyre going to continue it, that means they have enough arms to do it. What netanyahu is saying is very important. Frankly, its a little over the edge, if iran intimidates the United States with an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile. Gregs got a closer shot in his basement than the iranians do right now. That kind of thing, i can understand why he says it, because it gins up peoples response in this country. But the idea that iran has an Intercontinen

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