Think most people learned about this. When did the president find out about the department of justices subpoenas for the Associated Press . He found out about the news reports yesterday on the road. When was the president first made aware of these problems, of these fraud lent lists that were being kept to hide the wait times . We learn about them through the reports. Carney, obama, and the rest of the clowns better stop pretending they dont know whats happening in the country. Does anyone at this table believe these guys . Bob, i have to ask you, really, all these scandals, after scandals. Were supposed to to believe president obama finds about it read the reading the newspaper. The only defense i can come up with here is that about every scandal i know of, political scandal is always broken by the news first, whether its watergate or tea pot dome. Its always been the news thats broken that and administrations react to it. In this case they are a a little bit tough though, they were told when they came into office in 2008, there was a real serious problem in the va, so they knew about it in advance, and the fact that nothing was were not excusing the administration. Were just saying they are like other administrations. Is that the defense . I think there is certainly yeah, like other administrations that talk about i dont buy it for one second that they didnt know about the irs. I dont buy that they didnt know about snooping at the ap and james rosen. I dont buy any of this stuff. Do you . I dont. I think they were very well aware of the situation and you also have to look at their Response Time to these scandals. Lets go back and look at his presidency. It took him three days to comment on the irs scandal. Five days to comment on the crotch bomber. Nine days to comment on the bp oil spill. Why does it take him so long to react . Especially with something to important and radioactive like our veterans to say he read about it in the newspapers, the only excuse is he was worse he was on the phone with George Clooney or with beyonce and jay z at dinner the other night. Numerous memos made him aware. Just maybe if one of these veterans would have come out of the closet as a former nba player and guess what im gay everybody and i cant get medical care, maybe the president would comment, just a little bit faster. Are you buying that the president just reads about this stuff . I dont know, in the times, in the New York Times he says he gets it from the news and you guys are getting it wrong. Its hughey lewis and the news. The va represents whats called a forgotten priority in the modern era where pay tree to theism is secondary to the pigment. When you hear about veterans its like hearing about rotary phones, its not as important. The only good thing about scandal it reminds us what matters. They are people who are still out there willing to fight for this country and they understand war, when they go to war, theres a risk that they could die, but you dont compound that risk when they come home. The danger is supposed to be out there. Its not supposed to be when you come back here. Your ooefle should not be an incompetent bureaucrat. It should be who you are fighting. It reminds us of what our priorities are and it will always be the people who protect our country. Or should be and maybe the priorities is a little bit misplaced right now. President obama warned there was problems with the va list. 2010, he was warned, and 2013 he was warned a third time. Do you buy it . No, he knew there were problems in the va and he promised everybody that he was going to fix them. How can you all of a sudden say im learning about them in the news. It makes no sense and also its stunning to me that hes not embarrassed to say that. Does he not know that hes supposed to be running the show . I keep saying we need to remind the president that hes the president because i dont thinks he realizes hes responsible for all of this stuff that happens while hes on his watch. I apologize profusely. We have three more maybe four more sound bites. Take a listen to Charles Krauthammer. He acts as if and this is the same at irs with the eavesdropping on the ap, with all these other scandals, with the about obamacare launch as if he stumbled upon the presidency and discovered all of this horrible stuff is happening. Hes in charge of these departments. At some point youve got to ask where has he been and where is the competency he promised when he ran in 2008 . Charles thoughts. I will compare it to my student body president when i was in high school. Even he responded quicker when he had a trash can shortage at the prom. It reminds me of a student council. Why they are waiting for something before they react. The president is scheduled to make remarks on monday. Im assuming this is where hes going to weigh in on this issue. A little too late on this. I predict hes going to say this is an outrage im very mad. Hes very angry about this and hes going to say that we need to invest in our veterans and hes going to propose even more spending. The problem with this, eric, is that its not a spending problem. They have been spending money at the va. Its an incentive issue. Theres nowhere else to go for this care just like medicaid, so you can pile all the money that you want, this is not a problem thats going away. In 2008, the 85 billion. The estimated for 2014, 154 billion. Almost doubling. It ought to be because its that kind of problem. By the way, one thing im really glad to see we have Charles Krauthammer back as one of our co hosts. Because we very rarely use charles do you want to weigh in on the fact that obama i want to weigh in. The question was asked of him about phoenix and what happened in arizona. John mccain is a senator from arizona is very acutely aware whats going on with veterans. Its not a surprise that the president of the United States did not know about that particular issue in phoenix. Im glad you said that. Take a listen to then senator obama in 2008 saying the truest test of our pay tree to theism is how we treat our vets. At a time when were facing the largest home coming since the second world war, the truest test is whether we will serve our returning heroes as well as they have served us. I think he thinks hes going to get away with this. He counts on the media to not ask questions. I think hes counting on that for the veteran issue, i think hes going to be in for a big surprise. A lot of people on both sides of the aisle, enough is enough. You made a promise. You are the guy in charge. Accountability now and it starts with you. Do you think this guy doesnt care about returning veterans . Why did he say he was going to address the issue and prioritize the issue and not i dont think hes outraged. Its about the definition of the job, and he has a different definition of the presidency than we would like. His presidency is based on the idea of righting the wrongs of a country that he feels is deeply flawed. This doesnt enter into the top ten of that. He believes that there are certain things that maybe were fundamentally a prejudiced country which and we needs to address those things. In his world, that is a priority. In this case, this isnt so much. When youve spent many years in school being told that one of biggest problems of the United States is a military, and that we are going around telling people what to do, hes more interested in fixing us, and not caring about how we treat our own vets. I also dont think he can. If he comes out to lecture about the problems at the va, then he under mines his own greatest cheext which is obamacare. Heres the headlines, thousands of patients denied surgeries. This only emerged because of complaints from patients who had been waiting 23 months. This is from the guardian. This is a daily headline that happens in england where they have public options and socialized free medicine. Thats what happens when its free. You have people flooding the system and they cant get treatment. Its not free medicine. The first lady is smarter than her husband and one of her missions is military families. Im shocked she has not come out to weigh in on this. The headline today is talking about how shes talking about her lets move campaign. Who agrees with you jon stewart . The president is madder than hell, and ive got the scars to prove it. Oh. Yeah. No, im sure the story of how you got those scars really impressed the guys waiting at the va for treatment. Lost a leg down there in an ied in fallujah. When you lose the left, you are losing the battle. But even a corrupt cop has to make an arrest now and again so it looks like hes doing his job. So going after and condemning this scandal somehow excuses the negligence that they have had toward other scandals so finally now, well, join the club. Ed media. Do you see the outrage that you would expect coming from the white house . No. Im madder than hell whatever he said. He looks like hes bored. He doesnt look like you would think that he would able to do so. The president needs to make a statement and i think you are right. I think the first lady on this issue needs to make a statement. This is not a partisan political issue. Its about our veterans. It is a partisan political issue. No, its not. The house of the representatives has responsibility for the veterans administration. At least part of it. All of a sudden you are all outraged about this. Bob, hold on. You know what it was. Shinseki, when he first was called to speak on it, said it was an isolated incident or a couple of isolated incidents. Were finding out 19 different states are having issues where there are veterans on waiting lists and now we found an email listen heres what you dont want to do, you dont want to get the va officials ticked off at you so you play around with people on the waiting list. You dont report them on a list until you are within two weeks. And thats and the problem is, bob, were outrage but where is the outrage. Where is the coming from congress . Where is the outrage from the bhous . Hes the commander in chief. We havent heard a single thing because the republicans have dropped the ball. You arent going to tell us that are congress is on both sides of the aisle who are outraged by this. I think thats a fair point. I dont think that diminishes the responsibility of the president. You know why congress is hiding . Because they passed a bill a couple of year ago that gave these local hospitals lots more autonomy and lots more distance from washington, d. C. So we blame both parties on this one numerous times. One more piece of sound here. Its a big block. Heres a daughter of a va victim on what she would say to the president of the United States if he were to call her. What would you say to the president of the United States and gave that speech right there in phoenix, if he called you tonight . If he called me tonight, i would simply say you are a liar. You dont trust you. Thats the American People talking, bob. Thats one person talking. I would say dedicated doctors and dedicated nurses and a lot of good things happen. Taking care of people who are badly injured because of battle field medicine. Whats the problem . Were not disputing theres some good doctors and good nurses and assistants and whatever in the system. Whats the problem . Its not money. Its not money. I dont think that you get anywhere deciding who is more outranled than the other. I think what you can agree upon is this reestablishing priorities that weve lost over the past, i dont know, its not just obama, weve lost these priorities in a while and i think bob is right, in a lot of ways about the fact that there is a lot more that the va is dealing with than it ever has before with returning vets who normally won have survived and thats a lot thats a lot of pressure. But i dont think screaming about who is more outraged helps anybody and parading people out there, we know they are upset. Whats important is finding someone electing a candidate who will reestablish the priorities and make these people the number one priority. Can i ask you if the president says he still has confidence in the head str, shinseki, doesnt that send a signal . Elect somebody that will do what you want him to do. Calling for shinseki to step down, whats that going to do . You still have a flawed system that needs addressed. I would like to see coming from the top down, from chief from obama to chief of staff, straight down the line, an outrage where heads can roll. The problem is that its a pattern. Theres no accountability on anything. Its not just about this issue. That has zero accountability for anything that they do. Its always somebody elses fault. Thats why people point fingers. Sarah palin slams the liberal media for hypocrisy regarding Hillary Clintons health. After the break. Predicting the future is a pretty difficult thing to do. But, manufacturing in the United States means advanced technology. We learned that Technology Allows us to be craft oriented. No ones losing their job. Theres no beer robot that has suddenly chased them out. The technology is actually creating new jobs. Siemens designed and built the right tools and resources to get the job done. I got this. [thinking] is it that time . The son picks up the check . 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Lets start with represent present hencible comments by karl rove. May i say i think thats vaguely sexist. Sarah palin is weighing in. She said she wasnt spared questions when she was the gops vicepresident ial nominee and in a facebook post, hey, hillarys brain is off limits. Leave her Health Records alone. Democrats are right. Scouring records of female fael is just politics of personal destruction and for the media, to engage in it would be unfair, unethical and absolutely unpr s unprecedent unprecedented. Does chef a point . First of all, hillary should be happy. Its better that we talk about her big brain than her husbands little one. Sarah palin is wrong. There isnt a double standard because there was never a standard to begin with and its not sexist because the media never considered sarah palin as a woman or even a human being. No one in the media had ever come in contact with anyone like sarah palin. They are constantly surrounded by people like Hillary Clinton. When sarah palin came into the picture, its easy to dehumanize somebody if you dont think they are human to begin with. You could go after her children. You could say incredible things about her personally but it doesnt matter because shes not human. I dont think you can compare these two at all. And if i could compare them, if jewel youll allowed them me to, about their kids. They really talked about sarah palins kids. A lot of people were delving into it. They speculated on whether trig was actually bristols child and not sarah palins. Karl rove asked a very legitimate question, and if she hit her head and it took her a month to recover, bill clinton said no, no, six months. Its a legitimate question whether theres any lingering damage to her brain or not. Decision making matters. We should get a doctor to tell us explain exactly what a conclude ugs kosh concussion thats so severe it takes six months to recover from. Shes right, they are both right. First families, second families are off limits and shouldnt be attacked. Bob, i dont think that asking a or questioning a candidates health is off limits. We certainly did it with other president ial candidates. Do you think karl rove was the right messager out there . Do you think it helps to have the idea floating around right now . No. I think its too political. I do think that sarah palin did get a bad rap. The media went overboard. If the republicans think they are not going to have the scouring of a president ial candidate medical records, Hillary Clinton will be put through the ringer whether karl rove said anything or not. Ive been there. Ive had to supply medical records to the media before. It is nothing thats new. It is not and the only thing thats new about it is that karl decided to roll it out at this time in the campaign, you know, two or three years before its going to happen, and i think its very political. Why i think it is fair game, isnt it exactly what the clintons want . If you have see karl rove, who is an enemy, this is exactly what they want. Its the clintons versus karl rove. Shouldnt he have gone away and somebody else brought it up . I think its totally insulting to Hillary Clinton if the media is going to baby her. This is a woman is very capable of answering tough questions. Shes smart. Shes capable. Yes, her record is a little i have shes perfectly capable of answering her question. I dont think hard questions thats what shes there for. If shes going to contemplate running for president and you are not going to ask those hard questions because shes a woman, how insulting would that be . Im worried about the head injuries weve all had over the last six years after dealing with this couple. Im not sure the timing is great. The republicans have a very good shot at not only holding the house or getting the senate right now. Why dont run that clock out . Why play around with 2016 right now. Because if she runs, shes such a big for midable candidate, they have to start chipping away at her now. We already talked about the health issue with karl rove. The republicans dont have a person to stand up against her. Thats why. I think theres a rush to talk about 2016 and potential gop candidates and all of that because theres a fear among us that theres not going to be a republican. Coming up, new research on ecigarettes, show they can actually help smokers quit for good. Greg will explain next. New researchers shows that smokers who try to quit using ecigarettes have success. I know this. Bureaucrats want to restrict vapi