>> shut your mouth. it wasn't talking to you. put your hands on me and see what happens. >> this is -- >> leave us alone. leave us alone or we'll come for you and get you out of your position. >> eric: but this is probably the most dramatic fox news contributor getting sucker punched by the union thugs. watch. >> get the [bleep] out of my face. get the [bleep] out of my face. >> you hurt a lady -- >> i didn't hurt nobody. get the [bleep] out of my face. back off. back the [bleep] off. >> okay. [ yelling ] [bleep] [ yelling ] >> eric: so why so much anger? why the threat? the answer is simply this. the collective bargaining experiment in america is over. the unions are finished. whopping 20% of the workforce in michigan is one of the most unionized states in america. it's no coincidence that michigan is also the 46th worst state in unemployment. the unions know what is happening. they sense their demise. it's imminent. they're fighting to the bitter end. it won't matter. gor snider is doing what's best for the state? michigan is simply out of options. go to greg first but i'm listening to bob moo moan. what? union thuggery. >> bob: to say that the collective bargaining era is over, collective bargaining brought every worker in this country benefits that they would not otherwise have had. union people not with a strike mind and did it. from five-day work week to paid vacations to child labor laws, so kids wouldn't work in unsafe environment. all of those things. the guys can thank unions for. the idea to say there is an experiment. salmonella is an experiment. this is the basic heart of the american labor movement. it's crushed by this guy, this governor and this republican legislature. >> eric: salmonella is a bacteria. >> bob: that's what i'm saying. >> eric: 24 states in union, governor snyder signs the dock innocent law. 24 states are right to work states. >> greg: this is amazing to me that employers can force new workers to actually join a union. that is like the yankees' pitchers spotting the red sox five runs. this is arguing against choice, which makes no sense. then you have this violence, incredible violence that the unions, will not stop until they destroy every city. they're like without cool clothing. >> eric: how can -- >> greg: how can you argue what you just saw? they're thugs. they're scum. >> bob: they went against management. >> bob: you are okay -- >> bob: they got helping hand three times by management thugs who brought in -- >> greg: so contributor is a thug? the guy that was standing there is a thug that got cold-cocked by one your jerks? >> bob: the union guys have been historically been beat up and killed. >> greg: for the greater good. violence is okay for the greater good. >> eric: because you took advantage of it. how did i take advantage of it? >> bob: do you take a weekend off? >> greg: i take advantage because i take a weekend off? that's okay to punch that guy in the face? punch anymore face. that's okay? >> bob: do you know how many labor guys have been punched in the face and murdered? >> greg: how many? what does it do with crowder punched in the face? >> bob: i don't care about crowder. >> greg: at least you're honest. >> eric: angela, you look at the state house. it reminds you of wisconsin a couple of years ago. governor walker broke collective bargaining. jobs came back to the state. >> andrea: they are giving people a choice. i thought most democrats were pro-choice. in america you should not be forced to join an organization. you should not be forced to pay in that organization. it's like a protective racket. i'll tell you why this is so significant. >> eric: they don't take the money. >> bob: they do. they get the same benefits. >> andrea: this is michigan. this is why this is great. union memberships have been declining. you know it. they gave the workers in wisconsin a choice. union workers squeezed, squeezed by obama care. >> bob: the unions are in demise. we know this. the scabs are taking the job, taking the same wages that the union guys fought for in collective bargaining. >> eric: can we draw up the full screen. the non-right to work states and the unemployment rate. the right to work state, unemployment rate are 6.9%. in the non-right to work. unions, where you have to, have to you join a union in industries in those states. >> bob: those are low-paying, backward state. >> eric: non-right to work states. new york. california. >> bob: right to work states are mostly in the south. >> do we a favor. i don't know if you have it loaded in. maybe you do. throw up the right to work states, 23 or 24. michigan is the 24th. if we have that, throw it up there. in the meantime, they are going to get it up. here we go. there you go. >> bob: that look like the south? >> eric: it's the west. >> bob: it looks like a republican electoral map. >> eric: move on. dana take a look at president obama who says the right to work is being politicized. listen. >> what we shouldn't be doing is try to take away your right to bargain for better wages. [ applause ] >> the so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. >> eric: who's politicizing it in >> dana: since i haven't said anything yet this whole show, first of all, collective bargaining is maintained in this bill, when it will be signed. the difference is a right to work state you have a choice as employee whether or not to join the union. the unions would have to compete to say we think that we could represent you better. we hope you agree with us. they have to compete for the business. the governor is a self-made man who is basically doing public service in his career. he doesn't need to work another day in his life but he decided to stay in michigan. indiana became a right to work state a couple of years ab. michigan has been watching all the progression and the job goes to indiana. not to china. but to indiana. so the governor says okay, bay area do you think? 51 to 47%. michigan support this move to be a right to work state. there are 30 states headed up by the republican governors. you know what they have to do? clean up the problem for the past couple of decades to figure out how could we get jobs to stay in america. if this violence had been at a tea party do you think we would have heard the end of it? no. instead, it those be all of a sudden it's your fault or my fault. i'm to blame because if someone kills his girlfriend with a gun. i'm to blame if someone punchs somebody in the face. because of the republicans? it's not my fault people in michigan don't have jobs. >> bob: if you were with the united mine workers when they sent in guys with guns and shot these guys down there trying to execute the right to collective bargaining. long history. >> dana: collective bargaining is maintained in this bill. >> andrea: why are they fighting? there must be generous packages on the table. not talking about the hardworking union workers. >> bob: scabs get the same package. >> andrea: the greedy union leaders that don't know when to stop. it's prove that these groups are antiquated. they don't do what they used to do. the people are saying you know what? i'm sick and tired of my dues that i'm paying going to campaign contributions for things that i don't believe in. >> greg: the only way for progressivism to succeed is by force. if you give the workers choices they say no. that is what the unions are knowing that more people are working. that attracts more businesses, creating more taxes that go to the state. they know they are on the losing end. that's why they are violent. >> eric: it usually happened at a bad economic time. in michigan, i don't blame the guys for saying they want to have a right to work. >> greg: you don't blame them for the violence? >> bob: you thought that was violence? have you seen violence? >> dana: held up -- >> andrea: what is wrong with the choice? >> bob: if you have a choice then you don't take things negotiated by the union. >> greg: why you -- why this is accept to believe you. >> bob: there are certain points particularly in the labor movement that people had to fight for their rights. >> greg: is so a guy is punched in the face having a conversation is justified in your book? i want you to be normal and say no, it's wrong. >> bob: i this it's wrong the guy gets beat up. do i think more labor guys have been blooded and killed by management and goons -- >> greg: so youten score? >> bob: at some point maybe you do. >> eric: can we add one more top tic to this block? we're watching crowder being punchinged again. in the meantime, teachers actually left in droves, they called in sick to the tune where students were left home and couldn't go to school, classrooms were shut down. union thugs beat the crap out of people -- >> bob: union thugs? >> eric: and teachers are -- >> greg: what do you call dish >> dana: you call people scabs and you are upset someone says union thugs? >> andrea: how can you have it both ways? you are a tough group that put the giant inflatable rafts in front of the construction projects or nonunion construction par projects across the country or you're now a little victim who can't help themselves and everyone else is -- you're a big group that go on people's houses in wall street and bully those people and trespass. and overwhelm them and -- >> bob: wall street does that. >> andrea: where are the unions? >> dana: the unions did have an effective and important role in past. but i also think that other -- as companies have had to evolve, the unions need to evolve as well. they are getting terrible advice right now and there are ways to work with the governor, what only has their best interest in mind. what else does he want? why else would he do it? why? why? >> eric: >> bob: it brings people in to take advantage of the work the unions did. >> eric: honestly, bob -- >> dana: what is the other option? they don't have jobs at all? >> bob: if they join the union. >> bob: he is not a idealogue or partisan guy. he built a big business. he was successful. he want what is is best for michigan. >> eric: we have to go. >> dana: 57% of michigan agree. >> bob: why did they attack the innocent what did they have against camping? >> eric: they attacked a tent. crowder was trying to make sure no one got hurt inside the tent. coming up, truth about the most controversial scenes in a controversial movie "zero dark thirty." a lot of backlash over the waterboarding staged in the bin laden raid film. keep it right here. on "the five." ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've bought ragu for years. 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>> bob: i thought the courier thing was george bush intelligence operation. >> andrea: is your name dana? >> bob: sorry. >> dana: it's okay. when i read about this today this is the first time i heard about her. it's hard for me to understand or to know, i don't know the facts of where the blurring of the lines between hollywood and making up a good story and reality mix. i suppose because of the attention to the movie we will find out more. but it'ses ifnating to think it would be, if it was, if it's true, her effort to say no, this way, go this way, go this way. she is determined. like one of our favorite programs we watch on here. it sounds like it could be fictionm character or actually could be true. interested to find out more. >> eric: this is very interesting, everyone on the left said here is a bigelow movie. she has great information and intel from the f.b.i. from the f.b.i. building. when she makes an accurate portrayal of the movie where waterboarding takes place or information gleaned from enhanceed interrogation leads from the cour your to bin laden all of a sudden, wait, don't glorify waterboarding or torture. they want something different. liberals in hollywood and outside hollywood want a different depiction of how the info is. >> andrea: she has come under fire because she is accused of working closely with hollywood. she becomes the star of the movie. coincidence? greg, i got to ask you about this. new york magazine critic david edalstein brands "zero dark thirty" as morally reprehensible, because there is a scene with waterboarding. so shocker, just like the video you asked who pushed the video, trying to sensor another movie, because i guess they don't agree with it. >> greg: waterboarding more like awesome boarding. the unspeakable truth here is everybody wants -- they will never say this, but even wants torture on the table. if you ask a person one question, say your child or your spouse was abducted and they had a person in custody with the information and time was running out would you mind, would you mind if we used every means available to extract information? if you deny that you're lying. >> eric: even if you are a liberal. >> andrea: so bob, senator feinstein says there was no torture involved. barack obama said no torture involved. this is just a movie. why are liberals up in arms? >> bob: first of all, i think people now who see this woman who had been for years pushing the idea of the waterboarding. this torture. the united states should stand for something better than that. >> greg: you didn't answer the question. >> bob: what is the question? >> greg: if it's a spouse or child -- >> bob: i would have take an gun and put it at their head. i'm not the government of the united states. that is my point. >> greg: i hope the government would do the same thing if it was my family. that is my point. >> eric: that is the point. you are gaining information that would hopefully stop a terrorist attack that might kill thousands of people. >> bob: i thought it was c.i.a. that got the intelligence, not f.b.i. >> andrea: isn't in a movie? liberals say it's reprehensible. >> dana: right. so what dianne feinstein said, i know of the joint commission and the investigation in waterboarding. i know them very well. i would take the word of those people over hollywood depiction of it any day. a lot of people will see the movie. it's a good thing. but sometimes it's difficult to separate hollywood from the truth. in this case, sounds like the liberals are mad and there is a good reason for it. >> bob: where did you come up with the notion that liberals are against this whole thing? i haven't heard that. >> andrea: there is a bit of outrage. >> bob: so that's all liberals, right? >> andrea: "new yorker" sant conservative magazine but it doesn't get waive ray reviews for one scene. they can make a movie without being jailed. no, they can't. >> bob: is there anything wrong with taking exception to torture? >> andrea: coming up, could marijuana be used here at "the five"? no, that was the wrong script. kidding. could it be on a menu on your local bar or coffee shop? one owner is not allowing pot to be smoked in his bar. but don't break out the bongs yet. dana will explain next on "the five." ♪ ♪ suddenly, she does something unexpected and you see the woman you fell in love with. she's everything to you. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or if you have any allergic reactions such as rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a 30-tablet free trial. ♪ ♪ >> dana: washington was first and now colorado became the second state yesterday to make recreational pot legal for people 21 years and older. there is still confusion, though, on how the laws will hold up on a federal level. according to a gallup poll, 64% of americans say they think the feds should leave the states alone where pot laws are passed. governor mitch donnels said without endorsing what they did, they had under the system a right to do it. basically, said if even i disagreed with it, i wouldn't call for usurping the right of the state here. greg, you first. cansky you something? >> greg: no. >> dana: what is recreational use? >> greg: that kills me. >> dana: what does that mean? >> greg: experimentation. in college i experimented. what? you wore white lab coat? no. you did drugs. you do drugs. what tells me about this, i am for legalization, decriminalization. it's not about taxation. i just think -- nothing could be worse -- dabs representation. >> greg: without drug recreation. now i lost my point. my point is this. you can smoke pot in a bar, but you can't smoke cigarett cigarettes, which blows my mind as cigarette smoker. what about secondhand punchies? >> dana: are there bars for pot in amsterdam? >> eric: you have to call the bar a club, membership club to make it legal and smoke pot. >> eric: it's state right versus the federal oversight. listen, i'm for pushing over the the states that you can. so i guess i have to be okay with colorado and washington state. but the feds, it's weird. the feds are picking and choosing where they are going to enforce. they will go to oakland to bust people. but they are going to let it in mont clair, new jersey, across the river, there is a pot dispensary. it's illegal on every level. but they will leigh that. >> dana: look at a google map. >> eric: it's strange how they pick and choose which municipalities will -- >> dana: i was wondering when your dad when he owned the diners and the restaurants do you think this law passed would he have allowed pot smoking in the dine ore the restaurant? >> andrea: i don't