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"the five" starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> greg: our top story, the entire east coast braces for hurricane irene. irene is currently a category three but is expected to grow stronger as it makes landfall. we'll get the latest on irene's path in a minute but let's check in with jonathan serrie live. >> good afternoon. the storm is well out to sea, the surf is really kicking up. some visitors are taking advantage of that. over here, you can see some surfers out there in the water. a lot of visitors deciding to spend at least one last day on the beach. even though there is a mandatory evacuation for visitors. to get an idea what the storm is capable of, take a look at the video from the bahamas. hurricane irene slammed in the bahama as category three storm. 125-mile-per-hour winds causing widespread damage to two southern islands. no initial report of major injuries or deaths there. but the reports are still coming in. it is early on. we also want to show you video from cocoa beach, florida, even though that community, that coastal community is well out of the projected path of the eye of the storm. the waves have already started getting rough, there even though the storm is still well out to sea. researchers at coastal carolina university say this storm is having an impact on hotels far away from the projected path of the eye. in myrtle beach, south carolina, hotel occupancy for this coming weekend is between 65 and 75%. compare that to last weekend when it was close to 90%. it's obviously already having an impact here. when we arrived at our hotel. we saw guests getting in the elevator with their belongings, complaining about their plans being cut short. but not wanting to take any chances after seeing what the storm has done further south from us in places such as the bahamas. back to you. >> greg: thank you, jonathan. head over to the fox weather center where rick reichmuth is tracking the storm. >> hi, greg. big storm, very large. it will effect so many people. bahamas has taken the brunt of this. the entire length being pummeled. now it's moving north and we have hurricane warning now for the entire coastline of north carolina. we started the hurricane watch that includes the jersey shore, and this goes up to sandy. so these are the change of the advisory that just came in. this is the latest on the track. still at 115 miles per hour. we'll talk about a storm, cutting to the west of the outer banks. the outer banks on the worst side of the storm to see impact. likely making landfall around 10:00 in the morning to 2:00 in the afternoon on saturday. check this out, sunday afternoon, hurricane trekking across new jersey. new york city, along the past of long island dealing with this. that's all day sunday. monday we're done. we'll have big impact in the meantime. >> greg: thank you, rick. i'm staying indoors. now to something stupid. the muslim group, council on relations of islamic relations, or care, called for hearings due to a report they have been monitoring muslim communication to use to foil terrorist attack. this is coming as a group that was named unindicted coconspirator in terrorism financing trial. they have a past cloudier than bob beckel's love life. does anybody besides me think cair should face investigation, not law enforcement? think that cops should get the medals instead of migraines? does anybody besides me think i should think the "smurfs" movie? they are my people. and here is raymond kelly responding to the a.p. report on the so-called controversy. >> we're doing what we believe we have to do to protect the city. we have many, many lawyers in our employee. we see ourselves as conscious and aware of civil libertys. we know that there is always going to be scrutiny. there is tension between the police department and the so-called civil libertys group. it's because of the nature of what we do. >> greg: first question to you, kimberly. the info-gathering techniques that everybody is talk about stopped 13 plots in new york city saving countless lives. should new york city as a whole tell cair to stuff it? >> kimberly: exactly. don't let the door hit them on the way out. this is something that is necessary, because you have seen terrorists basically unabashed appetite and come in and commit terrorists act in new york city. they should be vigilant. they're not violating the u.s. constitution or any privacy act. for their comments that the cia is spying on american, they're not directly involved. they're supervising the operations. they're merely in an advisory role in terms of the integtory techniques -- investigatory techniques. they have every right to go in communities or mosque and make observations. from the observations if they are able to identify certain individuals that are up to committing and planning terrorist attacks, absolutely go in and do something about it. they're not sorry, i'm not sorry and you're not sorry. >> greg: you are like wonder woman. i bet you disagree with everything she said, bob. >> bob: first of all -- >> greg: can we talk about -- >> bob: this morning we talked about this in our call. we have a 10:00 call in the morning which i'm usually let out of. we talked about cair. i said what is wrong with cair. it's a philanthropic organization that help poor people. c-a-r-e. i didn't know we were talking about c-a-i-r. >> greg: i'm good we got that sorted out before we started. >> bob: i made myself to be the dummy. what is unbelievable, the idea of spying on an entire community of people is un-american. i believe it's unconstitutional. it wonder when kimberly says they could go in a mosque and look around, what if they went in catholic church to look around. >> kimberly: fine. >> eric: i don't recall a catholic priest hijacking airplanes. if they do, bob, i'm sure they will -- correct me if i'm wrong, kim -- they can go no the catholic church and -- >> kimberly: they are going there because they have information that is leading them to the specific places. >> monica: when i hard the story i was like thank god we're still doing this. we're monitoring mosques and other communities where terrorism breeds. and the plots are hatched. then i thought wait. how do we know this? who looked the story? we shouldn't know the c.i.a. and f.b.i. are working hand in glove and monitoring the communities. cair, pend group for muslim brotherhood in the united states. the holy land foundation trial you talked about directly related to hamas, the palestinian branch of the muslim brotherhood. they're all interrelated. groups like cair engage in lawfair. this is tying up the law enforcement and tying up the organization in terms of the -- democracy right. the -- >> kimberly: right. >> bob: let me make a point there is a specific statutory law that says th they can't operate on our soil. >> greg: they're not. >> bob: yes, they are. if you think for a minute central intelligencc.i.a. is noe f.b.i. -- if you buy that i'll sell you land in the path of the hurricane. i don't trust them for a second. >> greg: you don't trust anybody with a badge, bob. you have been arrested so many times. >> bob: when the c.i.a. says they're not doing something -- the reason we're going through this, we're paying a price for the patriot act. that was one of the most outrageous unconstitutional acts. >> eric: can i point out what you said. i don't trust the c.i.a. but i trust cair. >> bob: i didn't say i trust caire. >> greg: before we move on, you have contacted c abir, the right care to get their response to defend themselves. >> eric: i did. it e-mailed mr. ib ra ham, the national spokesperson for cair. i e-mailed. i'll read them. mr. hooper, would you like to comment on the story we'll talk about tonight, signed eric bolling. mr. hooper e-mails me back "show forgiveness. speak for justice. and avoid the ignorant." i e-mail him back and i said i don't understand. can you help me out? you quote the holy crane crane to show forgiveness. does it mean cair is forgiving of nypd or anyone else involved in the investigation. help me out. he e-mail me back and says, ,"the last part is in reference to you, in reference to you. the rest is just good advice." very con tense, with cair. there is stuff going on, talk about the muslim community. they don't like it. >> greg: it's not about terror, it's refusing to assimilate. you deal with people and cultures that don't like western culture and refuse to assimilate. >> kimberly: we are not talking about law abiding muslim americans. >> bob: yes, we are. >> kimberly: i'm telling you, i am talking about terrorists and the muslim american community does not identify or feel it represents their interest. august 2 gallup poll this year, 11% of muslim americans say cair represents their interest and only 12% of muslim american women. >> bob: if you monitor an entire community you are suggesting they are potential terrorists. are they recruiting young kids, like elementary school for young children? if it's a whole community you go through everybody. >> eric: there was an nypd study put out this year that said 17% of young muslims may be associated with radical islam. >> bob: what about the other 83% >> eric: who cares? >> bob: so let's violate their constitutional rights. >> monica: jihad comes in a lot of forms. it comes in the violent form we saw in 9/11 and it comes in the health storm. the infiltration form, what the muslim brotherhood and cair is all about. of course you need to monitor the groups. >> greg: the person in my ear, can i go to the next story? okay. i want to move on -- >> bob: you're starting to steal my shtick here. >> greg: i am. i needed a smooth transition. outrage over mayor bloomberg excluding clergy from the 9/11 ceremony. some politicians, religious leaders are criticizing him. they think that, you know, there should be religion at the several. this spokesman said the focus will be on the family members and the fallen. eric, i bet you think this is a great idea. >> eric: this is so bad. directly after the towers came down, the terrorist attacks, there was so much religion. it didn't matter if you were a christian, muslim, or greek orthodox. people got together. they tried to heal. it was a huge part of the whole thing. to eliminate the clergy right now, for p.c. reasons. >> kimberly: very insensitive. it is. i think it violates your freedom of religion and why would you do something like that with so important and the clergy plays such an important role? why do it? >> greg: here is how i think it is. with like middle school girl soccer everybody has to play so the game is terrible. >> kimberly: not on my team. >> greg: that is what has happened to religion. everybody wants to play. and bloomberg i think is saying i've had enough. i can't handle all of these -- how many chaplains are we going to have? that is probably what is going on. >> bob: i don't know the total religion involved of those killed, 17 or 18. if they're like my minister and they start to get a wrap, each one of them, they went get it done. it's not a religious service. it's there to commemorate people who died. >> monica: you can do a non-denominational ceremony. >> kimberly: we did this all the time. if you want to see a lot of religions, come to san francisco and the different groups that want to be heard at different functions. they have a right to be. make it work through the leadership and put a timer on it. >> monica: the other point is these terrorists acted in the name of their faith. so if we strip faith out of this and make it secular, victory for terrorists. >> bob: you want imam to speak there, too? >> monica: i'm saying there is nothing wrong with a non-demom national -- >> bob: you're right. that make sense. >> eric: i think there is no reason to bring in as many as you want. do that. do the religious ceremony. move them out and then you have plenty of room to bring in family members that you want. >> greg: my issue with this, and we've got to move on, the bickering depresses me. the thing that everybody is supposed to be thinking about one thing and we're having so many factions arguing over all of these other little things. who is invited. who is not invited. >> bob: the four of you live here in the rest of america, we don't focus on this. we all -- when you get to things like this, it seems to consume this city in a way that does not consume the rest of the country. >> greg: thank god it consumes us. >> kimberly: i don't think it consumes the city. it's americans and internationally as well. >> bob: i don't think they are talking about who is going to preach. >> greg: we have to move on before you get angry lets. coming up, this week's job number are another blow to president obama. sorry, bob. but is the news that surprising? 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it's pony capital. it stinks to high heaven. greg, no wonder buffett says go ahead and tax me more. he has access to the white house and wall street ceos. >> greg: i thought the comments about taxation were ridiculous. i said it before. why can't he do what he did? it's not a bad deal. >> it's not illegal. it wasn't technically illegal. the problem is that is what insider trading is. it's making money on a transaction that the general public, people at this table couldn't make. >> greg: if i had the money i could have, right? >> eric: no. >> greg: why not? >> eric: one guy. >> kimberly: it's beneficiary of information he has, he makes a deal based on that. you don't have that information, monica doesn't, i don't. maybe eric has it. >> bob: i'm not arguing here. he went to buy stock? he sold it? >> eric: no, he didn't buy a bunch of stock in the open market. the problem is he went and because he had access to the chairman of ceo and bank of america, white house no-doubt and was involved, everyone doesn't get that deal. even other big fund managers don't get it. >> monica: warren buffett is on my last nerve right now. first he goes out there and says we should be taxed more; marining, the wealthy. nothing is stopping warren buffett to write a ginormous check today if he wants to. >> kimberly: take a dent out of it, right? metropolitan he decided to take his fortune to give it to the bill get as foundation instead of giving it to the government. which tell us he has no faith in government. the other point -- >> kimberly: do you have? do you have faith in the government? >> monica: nobody does. that is the problem. >> bob: i do. >> monica: the fact he has access where nobody else did tells you a lot. what was reported today that obama called warren buffett prior to making this deal. saying b-of-a needs help. >> eric: mr. obama made a phone call on his martha vineyard vacation, buffett was one of the phone calls he got, yesterday or the day before. the other one is buffett is holding a rundraiser for obama. $10,000 to get into the fundraiser. i don't know. >> bob: buffett knows how to invest pretty well. everybody will say that. in his investment. and bank of america and obama will pay off well. >> kimberly: starts at $10,000 to 38. >> eric: we have to get to this. breaking news. steve jobs is stepping down from apple. it might not sound like something we'd talk about but we turn it in to "the five" topic this is the most succes successful company at one time on the planet no bail-out or government hel help. >> greg: i felt he was a visionary. this is how important the guy is, i hate his company. i hate the smug persona, the self-righteous, self-satisfied jerks and i want to hit them. but i own five apple products. my apartment is covered with white. >> kimberly: apple headquarters. >> greg: it's apple headquarters. this guy made people's lives so much easier. he dragged us in the future. an amazing person. >> kimberly: he put americans on the map with innovation. you are jealous. we got to the bottom of it. nice counseling session. >> bob: this is not right that he was gone for a couple of years with the health problems. it's during that time they developed the ipod and iphone. >> eric: no. he's really the brains behind it. he is the visionary that sees things like the iphone. if there is no better sales pitch for apple product, bob, what kind of phone do you use? >> bob: apple. >> eric: ipod. there it is. >> bob: i can't read the instruction manual so i still can't get in the internet with it. but i can do ninja fruit. i can play poker. >> monica: single handedly revolutionary technology in this country. i ipad and iphone. apple, check you on this. the newly designed ipad nano is the worst designed thing ever. >> bob: write instruction manuals in english. >> kimberly: i don't think it will of course the company long-term. tim cook has been the heir apparent for a long time. well respected in the industry. >> eric: leave it there. economy is the hottest issue in the 2012 candidates and what they are facing. whil